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Posted: 7/27/2019 10:04:49 PM EDT
Random deep thought of the evening...

If you were transported back in time to 17th century Europe, and were brought before the king/queen/ruler, what skills/knowledge could you share that would prove you were from the future?

Before anyone asks, the OP is stone cold sober; this random thought came to me while jogging this morning.

Ready...go.

Edit: You're going with no prior notice, and you arrive naked as Arnold in the opening of T2.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:06:51 PM EDT
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Memorize past eclipse dates before going back. Predict major historical events with great accuracy. Take Wi-Fi with me and my iPhone.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:07:21 PM EDT
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I'd show them my circumcised penis and my teeth.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:08:13 PM EDT
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Memorize past eclipse dates before going back. Predict major historical events with great accuracy. Take Wi-Fi with me and my iPhone.
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Hah! This is a random/accidental time travel....ala "The Final Countdown". No pre-planning.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:11:45 PM EDT
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Well, am I transported with whatever I have on me?

In that case I have a phone full of pictures and videos even without internet.
I have a 9mm pistol using cased ammo.
I have a multi tool made of stainless steel.
I have a wallet with photos.

Any of these things alone should impress a monarch in the 1600s.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:12:41 PM EDT
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A completely pointless question, you would be seized, accused of sorcery and witchcraft and probably executed case closed.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:13:23 PM EDT
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A completely pointless question, you would be seized, accused of sorcery and witchcraft and probably executed case closed.
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That's kind of what I'm getting at. Surely there's something you'd know that would let you talk your way out of it.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:13:33 PM EDT
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I don't know because history before 1775 isnt important.

Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:14:42 PM EDT
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This

You would be sent to the gallows
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:14:53 PM EDT
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The 1600s were a shitty time for witches (accused or otherwise) in Europe. If you were stuck there, it'd  probably be best to not rock the boat, ya know.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:16:32 PM EDT
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Nothing too wild.  Don't want to be accused of witchcraft.

Probably knowledge of modern firearms and munitions, etc.  Warfare shit would make you a valuable man.  Throw in some engine and mechanical knowledge that is easily understood and demonstrated.

After I established my bona fides as a "scientist" I would branch out into medical stuff.  Got to go gradually.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:17:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:18:26 PM EDT
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Well shit. I had no idea.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:18:31 PM EDT
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I know a lot of modern chemistry so I would be burned as a witch at the stake.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:18:55 PM EDT
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1632 - Eric Flint
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:19:19 PM EDT
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Jump start the industrial age with water power.
Design the minie rifle and a training program for light infantry and riflemen.
Invent the percussion cap and caplock rifle.

Small pox inoculation
Sterilization of wounds with alcohol.

Start a semaphore system for communication.

Hell, invent paper currency, start a bubble, get rich and flee to Switzerland.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:20:08 PM EDT
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This.  The whole series is fascinating.  Great reads.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:21:00 PM EDT
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Jump start the industrial age with water power.
Design the minie rifle and a training program for light infantry and riflemen.
Invent the percussion cap and caplock rifle.

Small pox inoculation
Sterilization of wounds with alcohol.

Start a semaphore system for communication.

Hell, invent paper currency, start a bubble, get rich and flee to Switzerland.
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The water power thing is pretty good; unsure if in common use at that time.

The minie ball is outstanding.

You know how to make a smallpox vaccine though?
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:22:20 PM EDT
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The Boat Of A Million Years.

Hanno's audience with Cardinal Richelieu is fascinating.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:23:08 PM EDT
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First thing I thought of after reading the OP.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:24:01 PM EDT
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Alright you primitive screwheads, listen up
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:25:30 PM EDT
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The water power thing is pretty good; unsure if in common use at that time.

The minie ball is outstanding.

You know how to make a smallpox vaccine though?
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That's the thing.  You don't have to know exactly how to do it.  All you have to do is introduce the knowledge of vaccination, bacteria, viruses and have a basic understanding of how it all works.  Same with many other technologies like flight, internal combustion engines, etc.  You don't have to be an expert.  Unleash the basic theory and let people get to discovering.

It's a common misconception that the people back then were dumb.  They were not.  They just didn't have the mountains of established science and discoveries that we have to stand on.  The discovery process was slow.  If you could jump start that, very smart people would work on the ideas.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:26:29 PM EDT
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The water power thing is pretty good; unsure if in common use at that time.

The minie ball is outstanding.

You know how to make a smallpox vaccine though?
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Jump start the industrial age with water power.
Design the minie rifle and a training program for light infantry and riflemen.
Invent the percussion cap and caplock rifle.

Small pox inoculation
Sterilization of wounds with alcohol.

Start a semaphore system for communication.

Hell, invent paper currency, start a bubble, get rich and flee to Switzerland.
The water power thing is pretty good; unsure if in common use at that time.

The minie ball is outstanding.

You know how to make a smallpox vaccine though?
IIRC the original ones involved live cowpox.   Shouldn't be that hard!
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:26:54 PM EDT
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Random deep thought of the evening...

If you were transported back in time to 17th century Europe, and were brought before the king/queen/ruler, what skills/knowledge could you share that would prove you were from the future?

Before anyone asks, the OP is stone cold sober; this random thought came to me while jogging this morning.

Ready...go.

Edit: You're going with no prior notice, and you arrive naked as Arnold in the opening of T2.
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I don't want to be burned at the stake or hung.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:27:35 PM EDT
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Alright you primitive screwheads, listen up
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This is my boomstick
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:27:53 PM EDT
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I could eat sootikens like popcorn.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:27:56 PM EDT
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You'd be killed in some horrible way for being a witch.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:28:06 PM EDT
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I'd bring a lot of soap and deodorant
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:28:10 PM EDT
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You'd be killed in some horrible way for being a witch.
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Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:28:22 PM EDT
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You know how to make a smallpox vaccine though?
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cowpox.  If a milkmaid had a cowpox scab, use those.  Worse case, small pox scabs.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:28:37 PM EDT
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Jump start the industrial age with water power.
Design the minie rifle and a training program for light infantry and riflemen.
Invent the percussion cap and caplock rifle.

Small pox inoculation
Sterilization of wounds with alcohol.

Start a semaphore system for communication.

Hell, invent paper currency, start a bubble, get rich and flee to Switzerland.
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Broken on the rack most likely.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:31:36 PM EDT
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Hope it's near them:

http://1632.org

Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:31:37 PM EDT
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That's the thing.  You don't have to know exactly how to do it.  All you have to do is introduce the knowledge of vaccination, bacteria, viruses and have a basic understanding of how it all works.  Same with many other technologies like flight, internal combustion engines, etc.  You don't have to be an expert.  Unleash the basic theory and let people get to discovering.

It's a common misconception that the people back then were dumb.  They were not.  They just didn't have the mountains of established science and discoveries that we have to stand on.  The discovery process was slow.  If you could jump start that, very smart people would work on the ideas.
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The water power thing is pretty good; unsure if in common use at that time.

The minie ball is outstanding.

You know how to make a smallpox vaccine though?
That's the thing.  You don't have to know exactly how to do it.  All you have to do is introduce the knowledge of vaccination, bacteria, viruses and have a basic understanding of how it all works.  Same with many other technologies like flight, internal combustion engines, etc.  You don't have to be an expert.  Unleash the basic theory and let people get to discovering.

It's a common misconception that the people back then were dumb.  They were not.  They just didn't have the mountains of established science and discoveries that we have to stand on.  The discovery process was slow.  If you could jump start that, very smart people would work on the ideas.
You have no letters of introduction nor do you probably speak Latin, or their native tongue. You'd never get an audience. Good luck.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:32:10 PM EDT
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BTW, George Washington had the Continental Army inoculated against small pox.  Cut open the patient's skin and insert a small piece of scab.  Bandage up.

Sinks/latrines for camps.  Must be away from housing or cooking areas.  Boiled horsehair for sutures (it's sterilized).  Teach hygiene to soldiers.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:32:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:33:19 PM EDT
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I'd show them my circumcised penis and my teeth.
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That would just prove you were Jewish.  Good luck with that!
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:33:30 PM EDT
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Well, am I transported with whatever I have on me?

In that case I have a phone full of pictures and videos even without internet.
I have a 9mm pistol using cased ammo.
I have a multi tool made of stainless steel.
I have a wallet with photos.

Any of these things alone should impress a monarch in the 1600s.
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You'd be branded a witch and burned at the stake you realize that don't you?

You go back with knowledge of future events, personal knowledge of the king that only he would know, and some skill (chemistry, medicine etc) that would make yourself useful.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:36:18 PM EDT
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You'd be branded a witch and burned at the stake you realize that don't you?

You go back with knowledge of future events, personal knowledge of the king that only he would know, and some skill (chemistry, medicine etc) that would make yourself useful.
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Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:37:53 PM EDT
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You have no letters of introduction nor do you probably speak Latin, or their native tongue. You'd never get an audience. Good luck.
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Shit, man, it's the 1600's.  Not two millennia ago.  If you can speak passable modern French you would be able to communicate with a hell of a lot of important people.

Besides, I'm not going to the kings and queens.  You have to do this shit underground.  Some of the universities during this time would be a great place to start.  They were full of rabble rousing liberals then, but not the lefty, communist kind.  Proto socialism/communism didn't start gaining traction till the French Revolution.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:37:57 PM EDT
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How do you make guncotton?

Cotton soaked in nitrates and what else?

Make a boiler?  Steam engine?

How about inventing indoor plumbing.  No more necessaries (outhouse) or chamber pots.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:39:32 PM EDT
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How do you make guncotton?

Cotton soaked in nitrates and what else?

Make a boiler?  Steam engine?

How about inventing indoor plumbing.  No more necessaries (outhouse) or chamber pots.
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We should time travel together, cause if I go alone, I'm deader than shit.

Edit: Just because I couldn't think of a single thing to share, despite knowing several of these.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:40:00 PM EDT
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I don't know how to make bessemer steel.  Superior weaponry.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:41:58 PM EDT
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BTW, if it's early enough it the 17th Century, I'd invent the flintlock.
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cowpox.  If a milkmaid had a cowpox scab, use those.  Worse case, small pox scabs.
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variolation
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:48:11 PM EDT
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That's kind of what I'm getting at. Surely there's something you'd know that would let you talk your way out of it.
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Not sure I could communicate adequately to talk my way out of anything.  I barely passed High School French and not sure I could make much headway in Shakespearean English.

Anywhere else in Europe I'd be good and truly fuqqed. Swedish? Italian? "Take him to the Iron Maiden!"
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:48:33 PM EDT
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lol never saw 1632s cover the big before.... that artist clearly had never seen an actual pickup truck in his life.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:49:13 PM EDT
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Cure cholera by boiling water.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:49:20 PM EDT
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Shit, man, it's the 1600's.  Not two millennia ago.  If you can speak passable modern French you would be able to communicate with a hell of a lot of important people.

Besides, I'm not going to the kings and queens.  You have to do this shit underground.  Some of the universities during this time would be a great place to start.  They were full of rabble rousing liberals then, but not the lefty, communist kind.  Proto socialism/communism didn't start gaining traction till the French Revolution.
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You have no letters of introduction nor do you probably speak Latin, or their native tongue. You'd never get an audience. Good luck.
Shit, man, it's the 1600's.  Not two millennia ago.  If you can speak passable modern French you would be able to communicate with a hell of a lot of important people.

Besides, I'm not going to the kings and queens.  You have to do this shit underground.  Some of the universities during this time would be a great place to start.  They were full of rabble rousing liberals then, but not the lefty, communist kind.  Proto socialism/communism didn't start gaining traction till the French Revolution.
I'm sure you could spread some ideas to a few young minds at a University brothels and "pubs".

Me I'm starting a mercenary company,  I'm fairly versed in the ebbs and tides of 17th century European wars, have a solid knowledge of the tactics and logistics of the business from a modern and historical basis.
I'm not gonna try and change the world, just thrive in it.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:51:18 PM EDT
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Shit, man, it's the 1600's.  Not two millennia ago.  If you can speak passable modern French you would be able to communicate with a hell of a lot of important people.

Besides, I'm not going to the kings and queens.  You have to do this shit underground.  Some of the universities during this time would be a great place to start.  They were full of rabble rousing liberals then, but not the lefty, communist kind.  Proto socialism/communism didn't start gaining traction till the French Revolution.
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90% were illiterate farmer rubes.  If you could somehow find Sir Isaac Newton then you might have a shot. There were amazing scientists during this time.  Start by subtly bringing up concepts like internal combustion and flight.

Avoid showing your phone with downloaded Sasha Grey porn.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:52:30 PM EDT
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First, why would I want to prove I was from the future to some European king?

If it was the late 1700s, I'd be doing everything I could to reach and convince the founding fathers I was and tell them about the BS that's going on today.  Have them spell some things out Barney style.

Amendment 1 " Without exception, the people have the freedom of speech"
Amendment 2 "The people have the right to own and bear any and all arms"
Amendment 3 "The U.S. Treasury shall mint all federally recognized currency, and all responsibilities of the currency shall fall on the U.S. Treasury."
Amendment 4 "The U.S. government shall not mint any currency not backed by a material asset."
Amendment 5 "Islam is the only religion banned from this nation, no other religion shall be, and there shall never be a state religion"
Amendment 6 "The state language shall be English."
Amendment 7 "Non-citizens do not have the rights of citizens"

Etc. Or something similar.
Link Posted: 7/27/2019 10:53:35 PM EDT
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I don't know because history before 1775 isnt important.

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