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Posted: 12/22/2003 1:08:54 PM EDT
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Doesn't matter how you feel about the war and related politics. Right now there are a bunch of soldiers and they don't have everything they need, and they will be in the same siutuation for Christmas. If you can please help. I am willing to make this a group effort or defer it to a member of the staff and just contribute if that is preferrable. Most Critical Items Needed ASAP: (Added 11 Dec 2003) These are the items to send NOW if you can: Handcuffs. Real ones, not toys or fake. With keys. CRITICAL NEED! Anybody able to help with this please contact me right away! Need these sent to Brian (without the "Attn:" line), his unit is in real need. New, used, whatever you can get (nope, no flexcuffs). (Note: Let the police-type folks help with this one, a number of departments have been contacted.)(Yes, there is still a need for these. The cowardly-wicked witch has been caught, but there are still plenty of flying monkeys left.) Heatermeals. Please be sure to send at least one breakfast meal, the soldiers don't get that meal! We suggest the mix that includes the breakfast meal. More on these below and here. These are a huge hit with the soldiers!!! Hatch Operator Gloves. About $25 from Extreme Outfitters (Hatch SOG-L Operator Glove Hatch003)(Large) here or from Ranger Joe's at $45 here, used for searches and missions. I can get dealer pricing on handcuffs if anyone wants to go that route. |
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Quoted: Let me know how much your price is for a pair of cuffs. View Quote Looks like Hiatts would be around $20 a pair or $25 for black. This is for steel chain style, the base model. Anyone got a better than dealer cost on the real thing? |
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My Dads a retired a retired LEO. I know there used to be a couple pairs at the house. I'll drop him an e-mail. He'll be in Fl in a week or so.
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expresspolicesupply.com has the peerless 10 oz standard chain cuff for $19.99
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Just an opinion here:
Hiatt handcuffs suck. Peerless are mediocre, will work fine, but nothing fancy. S&W are the best. (Edited to add: S&W uses a proprietary key, could be problem/costly to get extras.) |
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Quoted: expresspolicesupply.com has the peerless 10 oz standard chain cuff for $19.99 View Quote Damn beats me by a penny. [BD] |
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Quoted: Just an opinion here: Hiatt handcuffs suck. Peerless are mediocre, will work fine, but nothing fancy. S&W are the best. (Edited to add: S&W uses a proprietary key, could be problem/costly to get extras.) View Quote Looking for the best bang for the buck. Hiatts are good enough to hook up Iraqi low lifes and a bunch of Hiatts are better than nothing. Not gonna bother with S&W. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Just an opinion here: Hiatt handcuffs suck. Peerless are mediocre, will work fine, but nothing fancy. S&W are the best. (Edited to add: S&W uses a proprietary key, could be problem/costly to get extras.) View Quote Looking for the best bang for the buck. Hiatts are good enough to hook up Iraqi low lifes and a bunch of Hiatts are better than nothing. Not gonna bother with S&W. View Quote Well said. Seeing as how we HAVE to cuff them... IM Inbound Steyr. |
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Steyr, I know a low of cops who buy Galls brand, 10 ounce cuffs. $14.99 a pair and they might be willing to give a break if they know what it is for.
[url]http://www.galls.com/style.html?assort=general_catalog&style=RS034[/url] |
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Handcuffs urgently needed??? Have they finally found some friendly women?
GunLvr |
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Soldiers are not cops.
All they need are thousands and thousands of extra-strength zip ties. Why buy them handcuffs? They nap Iraqi's by the dozen. One soldiers handcuffs have to go all the way to either the nearest POW camp or police station, then they have to be released and the soldier needs to get his own pair back. Plastic Zip Ties are all they need |
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Quoted: Just an opinion here: Hiatt handcuffs suck. Peerless are mediocre, will work fine, but nothing fancy. S&W are the best. (Edited to add: S&W uses a proprietary key, could be problem/costly to get extras.) View Quote Huh? I've never had a problem opening S&W handcuffs with any standard key. It's Hiatts that are a royal bitch to open with non-Hiatts keys. I'm in for at least a pair. Let me know the final per-pair cost and where to send a check. [red]Edited for spelling[/red] |
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Quoted: Soldiers are not cops. All they need are thousands and thousands of extra-strength zip ties. Why buy them handcuffs? They nap Iraqi's by the dozen. One soldiers handcuffs have to go all the way to either the nearest POW camp or police station, then they have to be released and the soldier needs to get his own pair back. Plastic Zip Ties are all they need View Quote My thoughts as well. Or am I missing something? If they indeed must have handcuffs, I have a pair of S&Ws I don't use. I'll contact the local PD's in the morning as well. I have found S&W cuffs online for $21. I personally would feel better buying the S&Ws. |
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Maybe it has something to do with moving prisoners around once they are incarcerated and the constant need to use and cut off zip ties and the risk of running out of them... Maybe the soldiers feel that they would be better served using actual cuffs and they are speaking from their real world experience in theatre. So why the hell are you questioning and dismissing what seems like a very reasonable request.
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Quoted: Soldiers are not cops. All they need are thousands and thousands of extra-strength zip ties. Why buy them handcuffs? They nap Iraqi's by the dozen. One soldiers handcuffs have to go all the way to either the nearest POW camp or police station, then they have to be released and the soldier needs to get his own pair back. Plastic Zip Ties are all they need View Quote If you checked the link you would see they need cuffs and NOT zip ties. [b]New, used, whatever you can get (nope, no flexcuffs). [/b] I'm not there, I'm no expert I'm just going by the website. Let's please not turn this into a debate on what is or isn't needed. Hiatts is the cheapest cuff that I can get from a supplier I deal with constantly and I know is reliable. If someone wants to take this over who has better connections let me know where to send my check so I can help. Lacking that this is just an idea I thought was good given the fact that nobody should need shit like this when they are in Iraq for Christmas. Again this is just a idea I had to try and help. If you're in great, if not let's not piss all over the idea. If we get this rolling and you have a pair of handcuffs you want to send, I'll be happy to include them. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Let me know how much your price is for a pair of cuffs. View Quote Looks like Hiatts would be around $20 a pair or $25 for black. This is for steel chain style, the base model. Anyone got a better than dealer cost on the real thing? View Quote Here's the dealer pricing that I can get. I would need to confirm the next year prices haven't taken effect yet. If this is what they need and people are interested I would need to check with my supplier to see how many they have in stock or what time frame they are looking at if an order was placed. Hiatts 10oz nickel $13.95 10oz black $15.50 Peerless model 500 nickel $16.70 model 500 black $16.70 S&W model 100 nickel $16.60 model 100 black $16.60 |
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Swire, great prices on the S&W100's. I'm in for a couple pairs at that price.
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Quoted: Maybe it has something to do with moving prisoners around once they are incarcerated and the constant need to use and cut off zip ties and the risk of running out of them... Maybe the soldiers feel that they would be better served using actual cuffs and they are speaking from their real world experience in theatre. So why the hell are you questioning and dismissing what seems like a very reasonable request. View Quote I beg your pardon? When a beggar asks for money on the street, how do you know where it is going to? Do you just fling your money around to anyone that asks? What are the credentials for this organization? What makes it any more secure or less prone to abuse than any of the other thousand charitable organizations who are asking for donations in the name of our troops? Why doesn't someone just work out a deal with the in country MP Battalions if the need is so urgent? Are these cuffs going to go to average USGI's or are they slated for MP units? What's the use if they are going to some ruck-humper who'll never need to use them? Why would the average USGI use a pair of expensive cuffs when they have all the flexcuffs at their disposal that have multiple purposes? Use your brain, man. You should know better since you are such a highly regarded member with so many posts......are the rest of your 5000 odd posts of equal stupidity? BTW, if there is a risk of them running out of zip ties, why not contribute a bunch of Zip Ties or flex cuffs? |
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Quoted: Swire, great prices on the S&W100's. I'm in for a couple pairs at that price. View Quote Ok. I will call my supplier in the morning to confirm prices and then post back. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Let me know how much your price is for a pair of cuffs. View Quote Looks like Hiatts would be around $20 a pair or $25 for black. This is for steel chain style, the base model. Anyone got a better than dealer cost on the real thing? View Quote Here's the dealer pricing that I can get. I would need to confirm the next year prices haven't taken effect yet. If this is what they need and people are interested I would need to check with my supplier to see how many they have in stock or what time frame they are looking at if an order was placed. Hiatts 10oz nickel $13.95 10oz black $15.50 Peerless model 500 nickel $16.70 model 500 black $16.70 S&W model 100 nickel $16.60 model 100 black $16.60 View Quote You got the ball, let me know where to send a check. |
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Quoted: Swire, great prices on the S&W100's. I'm in for a couple pairs at that price. View Quote Same here. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Maybe it has something to do with moving prisoners around once they are incarcerated and the constant need to use and cut off zip ties and the risk of running out of them... Maybe the soldiers feel that they would be better served using actual cuffs and they are speaking from their real world experience in theatre. So why the hell are you questioning and dismissing what seems like a very reasonable request. View Quote I beg your pardon? When a beggar asks for money on the street, how do you know where it is going to? Do you just fling your money around to anyone that asks? What are the credentials for this organization? What makes it any more secure or less prone to abuse than any of the other thousand charitable organizations who are asking for donations in the name of our troops? Why doesn't someone just work out a deal with the in country MP Battalions if the need is so urgent? Are these cuffs going to go to average USGI's or are they slated for MP units? What's the use if they are going to some ruck-humper who'll never need to use them? Why would the average USGI use a pair of expensive cuffs when they have all the flexcuffs at their disposal that have multiple purposes? Use your brain, man. You should know better since you are such a highly regarded member with so many posts......are the rest of your 5000 odd posts of equal stupidity? BTW, if there is a risk of them running out of zip ties, why not contribute a bunch of Zip Ties or flex cuffs? View Quote Tell you what Hoss. Why don't YOU check out the site and if you find that it is a scam you can come back and warn us. They say they need cuffs not flex ties and I believe them. But until you find out it is all bullshit why don't you stop being a fucking asshole. Don't want to help, fine. Don't have to. I'm gonna write a check. Swire is now running the show. If we are all scammed you can stop by and say "I told you so." Now excuse us if we try and actually contribute to the situation. I'll accept these sources as 'legit.' A special "Thank You!" to Brad Krantz and John Hancock of WBT Radio in Charlotte, NC, for talking about this site on their shows! Hear the John Hancock shows he did! Another special "Thank You!" to Jim Newman of TV who ran a segment! And another special "Thank You!" to The Ron&Don Morning Show of Radio KLQ, Grand Rapids, who ran a long segment on 3 December! A gigantic "Thank You!" to FOX News and ARD German TV (Video here). |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe it has something to do with moving prisoners around once they are incarcerated and the constant need to use and cut off zip ties and the risk of running out of them... Maybe the soldiers feel that they would be better served using actual cuffs and they are speaking from their real world experience in theatre. So why the hell are you questioning and dismissing what seems like a very reasonable request. View Quote I beg your pardon? When a beggar asks for money on the street, how do you know where it is going to? Do you just fling your money around to anyone that asks? What are the credentials for this organization? What makes it any more secure or less prone to abuse than any of the other thousand charitable organizations who are asking for donations in the name of our troops? Why doesn't someone just work out a deal with the in country MP Battalions if the need is so urgent? Are these cuffs going to go to average USGI's or are they slated for MP units? What's the use if they are going to some ruck-humper who'll never need to use them? Why would the average USGI use a pair of expensive cuffs when they have all the flexcuffs at their disposal that have multiple purposes? Use your brain, man. You should know better since you are such a highly regarded member with so many posts......are the rest of your 5000 odd posts of equal stupidity? BTW, if there is a risk of them running out of zip ties, why not contribute a bunch of Zip Ties or flex cuffs? View Quote Tell you what Hoss. Why don't YOU check out the site and if you find that it is a scam you can come back and warn us. They say they need cuffs not flex ties and I believe them. But until you find out it is all bullshit why don't you stop being a fucking asshole. Don't want to help, fine. Don't have to. I'm gonna write a check. Swire is now running the show. If we are all scammed you can stop by and say "I told you so." Now excuse us if we try and actually contribute to the situation. View Quote Pardon me. Was I talking to your bitch ass? Why don't you let Ranger speak for himself or are you his little bitch? Why don't you SIT THE FUCK DOWN. Why are these cuffs going to ABE Troops while MP Units who ACTUALLY NEED THEM are not getting them? Do you have a friend in the 173rd? Out of all the stuff they need, that they could actually USE, why do ya'll choose handcuffs instead of sending them a shitload of ZIP TIES which serve the same purpose and have many other uses? |
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Scht, I suggest you put your attitude in check. Yes, I like to think I'm fairly highly regarded here and I have been on the board for years and I will tell you this Sir, so has SteyrAug and he would not bring us a cause that was not on the up and up to his knowledge. THAT is all I need. Now, if you who have been here for two months wants to prove your own ignorance as to how this community responds to our troops, go right ahead. Free country and your right to prove what a dunce you are...
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe it has something to do with moving prisoners around once they are incarcerated and the constant need to use and cut off zip ties and the risk of running out of them... Maybe the soldiers feel that they would be better served using actual cuffs and they are speaking from their real world experience in theatre. So why the hell are you questioning and dismissing what seems like a very reasonable request. View Quote I beg your pardon? When a beggar asks for money on the street, how do you know where it is going to? Do you just fling your money around to anyone that asks? What are the credentials for this organization? What makes it any more secure or less prone to abuse than any of the other thousand charitable organizations who are asking for donations in the name of our troops? Why doesn't someone just work out a deal with the in country MP Battalions if the need is so urgent? Are these cuffs going to go to average USGI's or are they slated for MP units? What's the use if they are going to some ruck-humper who'll never need to use them? Why would the average USGI use a pair of expensive cuffs when they have all the flexcuffs at their disposal that have multiple purposes? Use your brain, man. You should know better since you are such a highly regarded member with so many posts......are the rest of your 5000 odd posts of equal stupidity? BTW, if there is a risk of them running out of zip ties, why not contribute a bunch of Zip Ties or flex cuffs? View Quote Tell you what Hoss. Why don't YOU check out the site and if you find that it is a scam you can come back and warn us. They say they need cuffs not flex ties and I believe them. But until you find out it is all bullshit why don't you stop being a fucking asshole. Don't want to help, fine. Don't have to. I'm gonna write a check. Swire is now running the show. If we are all scammed you can stop by and say "I told you so." Now excuse us if we try and actually contribute to the situation. View Quote Pardon me. Was I talking to your bitch ass? Why don't you let Ranger speak for himself or are you his little bitch? Why don't you SIT THE FUCK DOWN. Why are these cuffs going to ABE Troops while MP Units who ACTUALLY NEED THEM are not getting them? Do you have a friend in the 173rd? Out of all the stuff they need, that they could actually USE, why do ya'll choose handcuffs instead of sending them a shitload of ZIP TIES which serve the same purpose and have many other uses? View Quote That's it, I'm taking this to staff say bye bye Scht. |
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Quoted: Pardon me. Was I talking to your bitch ass? View Quote I addressed you because you aree pissing on something [b]I[/b] started. Quoted: Why don't you let Ranger speak for himself or are you his little bitch? Why don't you SIT THE FUCK DOWN. View Quote Make me. Serioulsy any fucking time. Quoted: Why are these cuffs going to ABE Troops while MP Units who ACTUALLY NEED THEM are not getting them? Do you have a friend in the 173rd? Out of all the stuff they need, that they could actually USE, why do ya'll choose handcuffs instead of sending them a shitload of ZIP TIES which serve the same purpose and have many other uses? View Quote Don't know, don't care. The site looks legit enough for me. I have family in the military right fucking now. When I hear they need something I DO SOMETHING. If they fucking asked for zips I'd get zips. They specifically requested cuffs and NOT zips. I don't have a friend in the 173rd, I was looking up "To Any Soldier" because I did shit like this during Gulf I and wanted to do the same this Christms to do something nice. Assholes like you wouldn't understand. You are not in the military, and clearly have no respect for the military so excuse me if I don't take your expert advice on what they do or don't need. You are the most offensive person I have ever encountered on the net. |
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Look, everybody take a deep breath and please cease the swearing. Steyr, I applaud the effort and I'm onboard. However, this arguing is defeating the honorable purpose of this thread. There are a lot of us behind you on this, me included, and I'm one of the cheapest guys here. I agree, the troops ask for cuffs I send cuffs.
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Quoted: [i]Mental diarrhea[/b] View Quote If you can't tell the difference between a beggar on the street and troops out on the sharp end requesting specific equipment, then to hell with you. If you don't want to contribute, fine. Then STFU and don't contribute. If SteyrAUG says that it is legit, that's good enough for me. Tell ya what SteyrAUG, put me down for two pairs; one for the troops and one to smack that assclown Scht0nk in the head with. [;D] |
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