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Posted: 12/19/2018 5:22:44 AM EDT
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

Takes one minute to send the President an email.
Let him know what you think.
Let's make him aware of our thoughts on his attitude towards the 2nd Amendment.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 5:24:31 AM EDT
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Done
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 5:30:05 AM EDT
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Done.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 5:34:00 AM EDT
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Sent
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 5:37:06 AM EDT
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Call the comment line. Real (volunteer) people hearing your sincere shock and disappointment that Trump is PLAINLY NOT keeping his promises, HAS betrayed his gun owning supporters, and his oath to uphold the Constitution.

202-456-1111

9AM to 4PM Eastern time
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 5:40:35 AM EDT
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Done. I kinda doubt they read them though. I sent these to Obama all the time and got back form letters that had nothing to do with what I even commented on.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 5:42:35 AM EDT
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Done. I kinda doubt they read them though. I sent these to Obama all the time and got back form letters that had nothing to do with what I even commented on.
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That's why a call is superior, IMO.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 5:48:46 AM EDT
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Done. I kinda doubt they read them though. I sent these to Obama all the time and got back form letters that had nothing to do with what I even commented on.
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Of course not.  If they cared about you they’d be a nurse or doctor and not a politician
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 6:18:51 AM EDT
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Already did OP...…...thanks for the link though.

We have to let him know we are pissed off...…….
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 6:30:33 AM EDT
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Yea an email he will never read....
A call he will never hear....
That will show the left....
(facepalm)
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 6:32:37 AM EDT
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Yea an email he will never read....
A call he will never here....
That will show the left....
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Done despite the fact that I totally agree with this.

Maybe we should get one of those ever so productive .gov petitions going for this. I hear the Death Star construction is coming along nicely thanks to a petition.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 6:33:18 AM EDT
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Already did OP...…...thanks for the link though.

We have to let him know we are pissed off...…….
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Like he didn’t know this would piss of gunowners beforehand?????
He doesn’t care about your opinion.
None of them do.
Own it.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 6:38:34 AM EDT
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You guys are a bunch of psycho sadistic  mofo’s....

Has it really gotten so bad that we should make an unfavorable perhaps even strongly worded email or phone call?
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 6:39:45 AM EDT
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Call the comment line. Real (volunteer) people hearing your sincere shock and disappointment that Trump is PLAINLY NOT keeping his promises, HAS betrayed his gun owning supporters, and his oath to uphold the Constitution.

202-456-1111

9AM to 4PM Eastern time
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Did the email, making the call later today.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 6:41:49 AM EDT
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Like he didn’t know this would piss of gunowners beforehand?????
He doesn’t care about your opinion.
None of them do.
Own it.
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They care if you tell them you will not donate any longer to his campaign until you see some pro gun initiatives, etc.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 6:51:03 AM EDT
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The ironic part is that 99% of gunowners have been too lazy to even do that.

The left has fired up the smelters and is warming the frontend loaders... while gunowners sit on their thumbs and twirl. Go to DU or any leftist forum and it’s mostly page after page of how to destroy Liberty. Come here and it’s page after page of mostly irrelevant drivel.

Maybe after the bans, this place can transition to an air-soft forum.....
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 6:52:38 AM EDT
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They care if you tell them you will not donate any longer to his campaign until you see some pro gun initiatives, etc.
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LoLoL
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 6:56:30 AM EDT
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They care if you tell them you will not donate any longer to his campaign until you see some pro gun initiatives, etc.
LoLoL
You don't donate much money to political campaigns?

If you did you wouldn't be laughing at what I just said.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 6:57:54 AM EDT
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The ironic part is that 99% of gunowners have been too lazy to even do that.

The left has fired up the smelters and is warming the frontend loaders... while gunowners sit on their thumbs and twirl. Go to DU or any leftist forum and it’s mostly page after page of how to destroy Liberty. Come here and it’s page after page of mostly irrelevant drivel.

Maybe after the bans, this place can transition to an air-soft forum.....
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You guys are a bunch of psycho sadistic  mofo’s....

Has it really gotten so bad that we should make an unfavorable perhaps even strongly worded email or phone call?
The ironic part is that 99% of gunowners have been too lazy to even do that.

The left has fired up the smelters and is warming the frontend loaders... while gunowners sit on their thumbs and twirl. Go to DU or any leftist forum and it’s mostly page after page of how to destroy Liberty. Come here and it’s page after page of mostly irrelevant drivel.

Maybe after the bans, this place can transition to an air-soft forum.....
I  Get we can’t all drive across the state to the capitol and protest or all go to DC and March, but as long as we sit quiet, we look like pussies.

Since we cant get time off work for a big trip, what if we could organize as many guys in as many cities. Even if 5 guys showed up at city hall in as many cities as possible across the country at the same time, it would have to be noticed and news worthy.

You want strong words, how about signs that say “we will not be infringed upon, next time we show up armed” or some bullshit that makes them Think they can’t just keep rolling over on us.

Nobody is nervous about the weirdo that keeps sitting in the corner quietly displeased, they get concerned when the angry guy gets up and starts yelling.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 6:58:56 AM EDT
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I  Get we can’t all drive across the state to the capitol and protest or all go to DC and March, but as long as we sit quiet, we look like pussies.

Since we can get time off work for a big trip, what if we could organize as many guys in as many cities. Even if 5 guys showed up at city hall in as many cities as possible across the country at the same time, it would have to be noticed and news worthy.
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You guys are a bunch of psycho sadistic  mofo’s....

Has it really gotten so bad that we should make an unfavorable perhaps even strongly worded email or phone call?
The ironic part is that 99% of gunowners have been too lazy to even do that.

The left has fired up the smelters and is warming the frontend loaders... while gunowners sit on their thumbs and twirl. Go to DU or any leftist forum and it’s mostly page after page of how to destroy Liberty. Come here and it’s page after page of mostly irrelevant drivel.

Maybe after the bans, this place can transition to an air-soft forum.....
I  Get we can’t all drive across the state to the capitol and protest or all go to DC and March, but as long as we sit quiet, we look like pussies.

Since we can get time off work for a big trip, what if we could organize as many guys in as many cities. Even if 5 guys showed up at city hall in as many cities as possible across the country at the same time, it would have to be noticed and news worthy.
Plus you guys can donate money to the lawsuit fund linked to in the large bump stock thread in the OP's initial post.

Here's the link to the article where you can donate to the fund.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:03:30 AM EDT
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Plus you guys can donate money to the lawsuit fund linked to in the large bump stock thread in the OP's initial post.

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Already did that it isn’t enough in my opinion.
Every unpopular group that the country was against got noticed and shit changed in their favor by hitting the streets.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:04:08 AM EDT
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Already did that it isn’t enough in my opinion.
Every unpopular group that the country was against got noticed and shit changed in their favor by hitting the streets.
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Plus you guys can donate money to the lawsuit fund linked to in the large bump stock thread in the OP's initial post.

Here's the link to the article where you can donate to the fund.
Already did that it isn’t enough in my opinion.
Every unpopular group that the country was against got noticed and shit changed in their favor by hitting the streets.
Good point...….but it helps.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:04:16 AM EDT
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Mass tweets would work better, but you do you.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:04:54 AM EDT
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Mass tweets would work better, but you do you.
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Do it...….get them from all sides.

Don't give up Arfcom……..fight back...…...
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:05:29 AM EDT
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I  Get we can’t all drive across the state to the capitol and protest or all go to DC and March, but as long as we sit quiet, we look like pussies.

Since we cant get time off work for a big trip, what if we could organize as many guys in as many cities. Even if 5 guys showed up at city hall in as many cities as possible across the country at the same time, it would have to be noticed and news worthy.
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Most news wouldn’t cover it....

Those outlets that did would ridicule it....

And let’s be brutally honest....there’s a lot to ridicule.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:05:54 AM EDT
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Will call and email. One pissed off voter here.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:10:06 AM EDT
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You don't donate much money to political campaigns?

If you did you wouldn't be laughing at what I just said.
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I’m still laughing....
In fact I’m laughing even harder after reading your response above.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:11:09 AM EDT
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Their automated response works through the night.

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Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:14:25 AM EDT
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I’m still laughing....
In fact I’m laughing even harder after reading your response above.
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You don't donate much money to political campaigns?

If you did you wouldn't be laughing at what I just said.
I’m still laughing....
In fact I’m laughing even harder after reading your response above.
Ok, you don't think donations mean anything to politicians.

We definitely disagree on that one.

You get a few million pro gunners saying "no more donations" and it WILL have an effect.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:20:55 AM EDT
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Most news wouldn’t cover it....

Those outlets that did would ridicule it....

And let’s be brutally honest....there’s a lot to ridicule.
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I don’t know why I pay for a gold membership and an iPad screen shot comes up with file size error... fucking annoying.

Google image search:
Gay rights march
Black rights march
Illegal immigrants march
Islamic rights march
Hands up don’t shoot march

And then do second amendment march.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:36:27 AM EDT
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Done.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:39:34 AM EDT
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Mass tweets would work better, but you do you.
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No shadowbanning, memory holing or throttling there at that leftist douchebag's private platform.

Nope, none.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:52:51 AM EDT
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I've done and do my share of calling and emailing.  But I have no delusions about that changing anything.  This only gets fixed one way and that ain't gonna happen either.

Email sent.  Might call later if my voice comes back (strep throat is a bitch).
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 8:27:56 AM EDT
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Already did OP...…...thanks for the link though.

We have to let him know we are pissed off...…….
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Link Posted: 12/19/2018 8:42:01 AM EDT
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While I appreciate folks taking positive action, I'm curious what effect you think this will have.

Even if your comment is the one that changes DJT's mind, what, do you think, he will do now? Reverse himself?

I think our efforts are better spent on petitioning Congress and the courts like the Libs have been doing successfully thus far. My two cents.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 8:42:26 AM EDT
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Done
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 8:49:14 AM EDT
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Their automated response works through the night.

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Did it last night, received the same email.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 8:59:31 AM EDT
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Done
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 9:06:08 AM EDT
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Bump stock thread!
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 9:13:01 AM EDT
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Done. I seriously don’t think it’s going to do anything but at least I sent in a comment. Just like the White House petitions that get no response, ever, even after jumping through the hoops for 100k signatures lol.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 9:22:28 AM EDT
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Done and done.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 9:23:49 AM EDT
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Not wasting my time. Fuck everyone that wants to represent me.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 9:27:37 AM EDT
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Trump:

"Do we need those bumpstock nuts?"

Advisors:

"No sir, just talk about the wall some more and well keep the normal gun nuts"
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 9:45:46 AM EDT
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how about signs that say “we will not be infringed upon, next time we show up armed”
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how about signs that say “we will not be infringed upon, next time we show up armed”
(that evenings headline)
"Armed gunmen threaten terrorist violence against Americans!"

Followed by fodder for every talking-head for weeks....months after.

Of course not long after some idiot gun owner with a few screws loose will think "I'm gonna show them" and act in some violent manner with a firearm which will simply feed the fire like nothing we have seen thus far.

One of the very reasons the the leftists keep poking is that they know eventually some nut bar will act out violently with a firearm.....which will gold for them.


makes them Think they can’t just keep rolling over on us
LoL They've been 'rolling over' gun owners and Liberty for decades.


they get concerned when the angry guy gets up and starts yelling.  
They could care less about anyone's yelling, hell they are masters at it.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 9:49:13 AM EDT
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Hit for all the good it will do.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 9:51:10 AM EDT
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Ok, you don't think donations mean anything to politicians.
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Ok, you don't think donations mean anything to politicians.
Cite where I stated or even implied such a thing....


You get a few million pro gunners saying "no more donations" and it WILL have an effect.
Oh please.....If you could get a few million gun owners to just fart at the same time I would be impressed.

And if you could manage such feat, all it would do is allow the left to get a stronger foothold with their candidate, you would only help them.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 9:57:34 AM EDT
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No shadowbanning, memory holing or throttling there at that leftist douchebag's private platform.

Nope, none.
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May I join in your laughter and add an....

It's sad to see so many gun owners fail to have even the slightest grasp of how truly out of touch they are. It's like the dumb fat kid on the morning bus to school trying to cram for a spring finals test he's known about since fall. Later he sits sweating in summer school class wondering "How did I get here"
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 9:58:12 AM EDT
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Ok, you don't think donations mean anything to politicians.

We definitely disagree on that one.

You get a few million pro gunners saying "no more donations" and it WILL have an effect.
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You don't donate much money to political campaigns?

If you did you wouldn't be laughing at what I just said.
I’m still laughing....
In fact I’m laughing even harder after reading your response above.
Ok, you don't think donations mean anything to politicians.

We definitely disagree on that one.

You get a few million pro gunners saying "no more donations" and it WILL have an effect.
How can an organization that at best contribute millions of dollars hold a billionaire accountable for anything?
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 9:59:19 AM EDT
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Done!!'
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Done getting your AR's ready for the smelter?
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 10:05:00 AM EDT
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I read about the ban in the morning paper, and the wording of it is scientifically inaccurate and cannot be upheld in court. It claims the stock makes the gun fire 'automatically' without mention of the fact that the trigger finger is what pulls the trigger for each and every shot. We all should already know, but the definition of 'machine gun' since 1934 has been 'more than one shot per each manipulation of the trigger'. With the new ban they have made the previous definition meaningless so now any kind of firearm that can be 'bump-fired' becomes a machine gun, and a real machine gun is now unclassified. Obviously this cannot survive any scrutiny at all so it won't stand up.
Now, if the real goal is to use this kind of semantics to effect a 'back-door' ban on all self-loading firearms, at least it would explain how ATF engineers could come up with this fiction which has nothing to do with how a 'bump-fire' device works.
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