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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:29:27 PM EDT
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Strangely enough I agree.
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:30:11 PM EDT
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It's also one of the top comic book series of all time...
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:31:01 PM EDT
[#3]
Agreed.
I loved how the Heroes were sometimes anti-heroes. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:32:09 PM EDT
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I just watched the 3 1/2 hour Ultimate cut. I love that movie but the cartoon sections were a little much. I would definitely say it’s one of the best superhero movies ever
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:33:00 PM EDT
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Is it just me or does Rorschach look like Scut Farkus from A Christmas Story?
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:33:38 PM EDT
[#6]
I agree but Spider-Man does not deserve a mention on a list of great Superhero movies.
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:34:42 PM EDT
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I didn't care for it, nor did I read the comic books
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:35:58 PM EDT
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Is it just me or does Rorschach look like Scut Farkus from A Christmas Story? |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:36:30 PM EDT
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Meh. Too dark and dreary.
It's a mood movie for me. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:36:44 PM EDT
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Writing out the fake psionic space squid was a huge leap, given how faithful the rest of the movie was, and a very good decision. Doctor Manhattan framed for the attack makes vastly more sense and streamlines the story wonderfully. The squid would have totally muddled the whole thing just as the finale was peaking.
Great movie on every level. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:37:53 PM EDT
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Agreed. I loved how the Heroes were sometimes anti-heroes. No 2 was Thor Ragnarock, not some spiderman movie OP |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:38:03 PM EDT
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I agree but Spider-Man does not deserve a mention on a list of great Superhero movies. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:40:02 PM EDT
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I enjoy it.
I watched the new one on Amazon - with 24 minutes of "dropped" stuff. Bits of it added to the story, but much of it did not. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:40:52 PM EDT
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Agreed. I loved how the Heroes were sometimes anti-heroes. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:41:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Is it just me or does Rorschach look like Scut Farkus from A Christmas Story? |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:41:54 PM EDT
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Writing out the fake psionic space squid was a huge leap, given how faithful the rest of the movie was, and a very good decision. Doctor Manhattan framed for the attack makes vastly more sense and streamlines the story wonderfully. The squid would have totally muddled the whole thing just as the finale was peaking. Great movie on every level. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:42:34 PM EDT
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The opening showing the timeline is excellent.
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:42:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Better than the majority of trash marvel has put out. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:42:51 PM EDT
[#19]
Nah. The villain's motivations were particularly dumb. I could never take it seriously.
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:44:41 PM EDT
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Nah. The villain's motivations were particularly dumb. I could never take it seriously. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:45:46 PM EDT
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I'm not sure which movies are Marvel but Iron Man, Guardians of the Galaxy, Deadpool, Batman, all better than the Spidey. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Better than the majority of trash marvel has put out. Guardians: trash Deadpool: recycled internet jokes Batman: NOT marvel 
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:45:55 PM EDT
[#22]
I’d like to argue with you
But I can’t. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:47:42 PM EDT
[#23]
It's a great movie, but it's a cynical and kind of leftist story where "the real story" is that the super heroes were often rapists or mass killers. It's a very "late twentieth century" story were heroes turn out to be extremely flawed and end up causing evil, it reminds me of how Christopher Columbus was a hero when I was a boy and now is a no good oppressor of Indians and other powerless folk. Watchmen reminds me of all the attempts to rewrite history in the 80s and after in a cynical and anti american manner. I don't mean it's a bad movie, it's a great movie.
But Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War are better super hero movies. Captain America is a life long .gov/company man, but when an elevator full of soldiers (well shield agents but whatever) tell him to surrender, he does what is right regardless of consequences, he fights everyone to save his friend and refuses to fight his friend even when it means his life. Sure they're a couple of Marvel blockbusters, but it's also a man protecting his innocent friend against the government. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:48:32 PM EDT
[#24]
I agree. Wish they would have made a mini series out of it.
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:49:40 PM EDT
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I agree. Wish they would have made a mini series out of it. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:50:23 PM EDT
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It's a great movie, but it's a cynical and kind of leftist story where "the real story" is that the super heroes were often rapists or mass killers. It's a very "late twentieth century" story were heroes turn out to be extremely flawed and end up causing evil, it reminds me of how Christopher Columbus was a hero when I was a boy and now is a no good oppressor of Indians and other powerless folk. Watchmen reminds me of all the attempts to rewrite history in the 80s and after in a cynical and anti american manner. I don't mean it's a bad movie, it's a great movie. But Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War are better super hero movies. Captain America is a life long .gov/company man, but when an elevator full of soldiers (well shield agents but whatever) tell him to surrender, he does what is right regardless of consequences, he fights everyone to save his friend and refuses to fight his friend even when it means his life. Sure they're a couple of Marvel blockbusters, but it's also a man protecting his innocent friend against the government. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:50:27 PM EDT
[#27]
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With Spider-Man 2(TM one) not far behind. The music, the visuals, the story, the acting, all amazing. Rorschach is the best hero. The ultimate cut is on Amazon prime. Go watch it. Orgazmo. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:50:44 PM EDT
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The opening showing the timeline is excellent.  Watchmen [2009] - Intro |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:50:55 PM EDT
[#29]
Thanks OP, didn’t know it was up. Been sick all day now I’m gonna go watch it on my prime
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:52:04 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
It's a great movie, but it's a cynical and kind of leftist story where "the real story" is that the super heroes were often rapists or mass killers. It's a very "late twentieth century" story were heroes turn out to be extremely flawed and end up causing evil, it reminds me of how Christopher Columbus was a hero when I was a boy and now is a no good oppressor of Indians and other powerless folk. Watchmen reminds me of all the attempts to rewrite history in the 80s and after in a cynical and anti american manner. I don't mean it's a bad movie, it's a great movie. But Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War are better super hero movies. Captain America is a life long .gov/company man, but when an elevator full of soldiers (well shield agents but whatever) tell him to surrender, he does what is right regardless of consequences, he fights everyone to save his friend and refuses to fight his friend even when it means his life. Sure they're a couple of Marvel blockbusters, but it's also a man protecting his innocent friend against the government. Richard Nixon dictator?lol what's not to love. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 6:52:32 PM EDT
[#31]
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Nah. The villain's motivations were particularly dumb. I could never take it seriously. "Peace based on a lie!" "But peace nonetheless." "I've made myself feel every death... see every innocent face I've murdered to save humanity." |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:04:53 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
It's a great movie, but it's a cynical and kind of leftist story where "the real story" is that the super heroes were often rapists or mass killers. It's a very "late twentieth century" story were heroes turn out to be extremely flawed and end up causing evil, it reminds me of how Christopher Columbus was a hero when I was a boy and now is a no good oppressor of Indians and other powerless folk. Watchmen reminds me of all the attempts to rewrite history in the 80s and after in a cynical and anti american manner. I don't mean it's a bad movie, it's a great movie. But Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War are better super hero movies. Captain America is a life long .gov/company man, but when an elevator full of soldiers (well shield agents but whatever) tell him to surrender, he does what is right regardless of consequences, he fights everyone to save his friend and refuses to fight his friend even when it means his life. Sure they're a couple of Marvel blockbusters, but it's also a man protecting his innocent friend against the government. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:06:30 PM EDT
[#33]
I like it. I know many folks bitch about it, but it was done well. So well, I bought the directors cut.
Maybe it’s the soundtrack..... I’m the Boogie Man.....(Comedian is the best) |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:09:54 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
It's a great movie, but it's a cynical and kind of leftist story where "the real story" is that the super heroes were often rapists or mass killers. It's a very "late twentieth century" story were heroes turn out to be extremely flawed and end up causing evil, it reminds me of how Christopher Columbus was a hero when I was a boy and now is a no good oppressor of Indians and other powerless folk. Watchmen reminds me of all the attempts to rewrite history in the 80s and after in a cynical and anti american manner. I don't mean it's a bad movie, it's a great movie. But Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War are better super hero movies. Captain America is a life long .gov/company man, but when an elevator full of soldiers (well shield agents but whatever) tell him to surrender, he does what is right regardless of consequences, he fights everyone to save his friend and refuses to fight his friend even when it means his life. Sure they're a couple of Marvel blockbusters, but it's also a man protecting his innocent friend against the government. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:13:00 PM EDT
[#35]
Finally I can stream it. Top movie for me
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:13:05 PM EDT
[#36]
Deadpool is the best superhero movie ever.
Deadpool 2is the second best superhero movie ever. That is all. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:14:02 PM EDT
[#37]
Ultimate Cut is leaps and bounds better than the theatrical release. I got no sense of urgency or alarm while watching in the theater. The UC stresses the nuclear apocalypse potential much better and makes the ending and villain motivation seem relevant. Missed that on the shorter cut.
Off on the 2nd best tangent, I like Unbreakable and have seen trailers for a sequel, Glass. Split with James McAvoy is part of the series too. Granted, it's M. Night... but I thought it was a well done take on the genre. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:19:32 PM EDT
[#38]
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With Spider-Man 2(TM one) not far behind. The music, the visuals, the story, the acting, all amazing. Rorschach is the best hero. The ultimate cut is on Amazon prime. Go watch it. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:19:36 PM EDT
[#39]
I recently rewatched it too. Damn good.
No mention of this one? It's in my top 5: (I know he's not a super hero, but it's a comic so wahteva) |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:20:34 PM EDT
[#40]
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I agree but Spider-Man does not deserve a mention on a list of great Superhero movies. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:20:49 PM EDT
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I recently rewatched it too. Damn good. No mention of this one? It's in my top 5: http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuuXSYjDX-aEB2OQgSifaDL0oRqscL6e44hIf0GSccPniOxFZS (I know he's not a super hero, but it's a comic so wahteva) |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:22:07 PM EDT
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Unify the world against a common enemy to prevent WWIII and spark a technological race that will colonize space, spread the race out enough that one foolish war can't wipe us all out? That was an awesome motivation (that had a lot more meaning when it was written, during the Cold War). "Peace based on a lie!" "But peace nonetheless." "I've made myself feel every death... see every innocent face I've murdered to save humanity." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nah. The villain's motivations were particularly dumb. I could never take it seriously. "Peace based on a lie!" "But peace nonetheless." "I've made myself feel every death... see every innocent face I've murdered to save humanity." |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:22:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bucky is innocent but the Winter Soldier definitely is not innocent. To me that's what makes those movies good. Everyone is both right and wrong. It all comes down to the individuals perspective and judgment. Those moves built the MCU because there was so much character development. Super hero stories were the Greek mythology of the 20th century, they told stories of archetypes of heroism that Americans aspired to, even if they were unrealistic. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:23:39 PM EDT
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It's a great movie, but it's a cynical and kind of leftist story where "the real story" is that the super heroes were often rapists or mass killers. It's a very "late twentieth century" story were heroes turn out to be extremely flawed and end up causing evil, it reminds me of how Christopher Columbus was a hero when I was a boy and now is a no good oppressor of Indians and other powerless folk. Watchmen reminds me of all the attempts to rewrite history in the 80s and after in a cynical and anti american manner. I don't mean it's a bad movie, it's a great movie. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:23:54 PM EDT
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I recently rewatched it too. Damn good. No mention of this one? It's in my top 5: http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuuXSYjDX-aEB2OQgSifaDL0oRqscL6e44hIf0GSccPniOxFZS (I know he's not a super hero, but it's a comic so wahteva) |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:25:29 PM EDT
[#46]
1) The Watchmen
2) The Dark Knight 3) Guardians of the Galaxy |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:25:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The original graphic novel was written in the 80s, so there's that 
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:29:05 PM EDT
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I recently rewatched it too. Damn good. No mention of this one? It's in my top 5: http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuuXSYjDX-aEB2OQgSifaDL0oRqscL6e44hIf0GSccPniOxFZS (I know he's not a super hero, but it's a comic so wahteva) |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:31:01 PM EDT
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It's a really good movie.
Best? My vote is Dark Knight. I would say Guardians of the Galaxy is #1, but it's more of a Space Opera than a Superhero movie. If all characters need is super abilities to be called a Superhero movie, then Star Wars would fall into that criteria, and it's a Space Opera. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 7:31:39 PM EDT
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Neither the villain nor the viewer have any reason to believe that the action he takes will accomplish that goal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nah. The villain's motivations were particularly dumb. I could never take it seriously. "Peace based on a lie!" "But peace nonetheless." "I've made myself feel every death... see every innocent face I've murdered to save humanity." |
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