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Posted: 5/20/2018 8:54:53 PM EDT
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1) Probably a ball bearing main/crank bearing
2) Honda all the way for small power equipment 3) Depends on what brand you buy. Most new ones are like a CVT and you control the speed. The self propelled systems will last longer than you will as long as you're not deliberately trying to break it. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 8:55:49 PM EDT
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Never change the oil? What kind of madness is that?
I got a self propelled few years back, worth every penny. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 8:55:53 PM EDT
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I can't speak for now, but forty years ago my father purchased a self propelled "Push Mower" I remember we got tired of putting the chain back on the spocket so many times that we ended up disconnecting it altogether. I am rocking a "Weed Eater" brand push mower I bought at Walmart for $60 a few years ago. I would recommend that you stick with a conventional push mower.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 8:57:19 PM EDT
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I can't speak for now, but forty years ago my father purchased a self propelled "Push Mower" I remember we got tired of putting the chain back on the spocket so many times that we ended up disconnecting it altogether. I am rocking a "Weed Eater" brand push mower I bought at Walmart for $60 a few years ago. I would recommend that you stick with a conventional push mower. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 8:58:07 PM EDT
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Never change the oil? What kind of madness is that? I got a self propelled few years back, worth every penny. Honda motors on lawn mowers are harder to kill than Steven Segal. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 8:58:57 PM EDT
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I would never not change oil in any engine. That seems asinine to me.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:00:35 PM EDT
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They dont last long enough to have to change the oil, which is probably synthetic. LOL. If you can afford and want something that lasts, honda would be a good choice. You can go to your local power dealer, not home cheapo! and get something good there as well. Most people dont as those options cost more up front.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:02:29 PM EDT
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I would never not change oil in any engine. That seems asinine to me. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:02:37 PM EDT
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Read the owners manual. Its not just check and add. You either suck it out through check and fill hole or turn it completely over and pour it out.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:03:40 PM EDT
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it's more of an Oil Refresh iirc of what the JD dealer told me, it's quick and easy.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:04:53 PM EDT
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Had the same decision today. Bought a self propelled Honda to replace a husqvarna that didn't have a bagger and left behind too much grass clumps. Self propelled is worth the small amount extra. Never had one fail in the 25 years or so I have mowed lawns. Motor will go out maybe, or just starts rusting apart. I was unsure on the no oil change Briggs as well, and spent the extra 50 or so for the Honda.
Also said the hell with gas powered weed eater and bought a 20volt black and decker. Should be enough for my sized lawn and fence. The gas ones weigh twice as much and are a constant pain. I wanted the dewalt fo match the pile of batteries I have but the reviews are beyond terrible. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:05:02 PM EDT
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Don't lawn mowers already have no oil change engines
Ive never changed the oil in a lawn mower. Never even checked it |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:05:07 PM EDT
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I have never changed the oil in my huswvarna push mower, I check it and it looks fine. It's probably 7 years old now and does not have a drain plug. I'm not tipping it over to drain the oil. I'll buy a new one when this one dies (still looks and runs like new)
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:05:40 PM EDT
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Oops. Need to edit this:
I've got an 11 year old Toro with a 
The Briggs & Stratton engine is on the snowblower. That has gone 9 years without an oil change and it still runs fine. Hmm...looking at the above makes me realize that I should probably change the oil more often. 
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:05:50 PM EDT
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Would you trust the oil in any Hecho en China engine?
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:06:30 PM EDT
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Have a Briggs no prime now for 9 years, doing great!
I do change the oil every other year or so by dumping the old out of the dipstick tube. I was just mowing the yard today thinking how fortunate I was with the purchase 
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:07:38 PM EDT
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Read the owners manual. Its not just check and add. You either suck it out through check and fill hole or turn it completely over and pour it out. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:08:30 PM EDT
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I would never not change oil in any engine. That seems asinine to me. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:09:45 PM EDT
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I don't think I've ever changed the oil on a vertical crank engine. Just top up as necessary. The engines have all long outlasted the rest of the mowers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would never not change oil in any engine. That seems asinine to me. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:09:48 PM EDT
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Haha!
I don't change the oil in mine. I just add. There's no need to change, as the mower uses oil. Self propelled still works. Side discharge still works. Mulching still works. Engine starts with a spray or two of starting fluid. The deck has a rust hole in it. Once it clogs with grass, everything is good to go. Thing has to be getting close to 25 years old, but I can't really justify getting a new one because it won't die. Eventually, the engine is going to fall through the deck, and at that point, I'll just load it onto my trailer and haul it to the recyclers. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:10:36 PM EDT
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I can't speak for now, but forty years ago my father purchased a self propelled "Push Mower" I remember we got tired of putting the chain back on the spocket so many times that we ended up disconnecting it altogether. I am rocking a "Weed Eater" brand push mower I bought at Walmart for $60 a few years ago. I would recommend that you stick with a conventional push mower. 
OP, had a honda mower for 5 years, starts on 1st pull everyime, even after the winter. Never done anything but basic maintenance. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:11:48 PM EDT
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Don't lawn mowers already have no oil change engines Ive never changed the oil in a lawn mower. Never even checked it Just change air filter and blade once a year. I hate cutting grass. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:17:48 PM EDT
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Ha. No change? Shit.......
People don't think viscosity be like it is, but it do. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:20:21 PM EDT
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No oil change has been around for a long time.
It's called 2 stroke |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:20:21 PM EDT
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An old lawnboy 2 stroke is the way to go. Especially on hilly areas
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:20:48 PM EDT
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I never knew so many people didn't change oil on their mowers. No wonder there are so many on the curbs waiting for garbage trucks every week. It's just 15 minutes a year to do it.
The Hondas are highly recommended if you have the money. Self propelled systems are durable as long you don't but the cheapest of cheap. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:21:26 PM EDT
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Ha. No change? Shit....... People don't think viscosity be like it is, but it do. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:26:21 PM EDT
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An old lawnboy 2 stroke is the way to go. Especially on hilly areas |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:26:25 PM EDT
[#29]
Toro personal pace with a B&S engine or go the commercial one with the Kaw engine. I will not buy any other push mower again.
I do change my oil after the first 5 hrs of run time and every 2 to 3 years. Oil still looks fresh. My Zero turn once a year because of the amount of time and how hard I run it. I have become a fan of 15/40 Delo oil for my air cool engines. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:31:25 PM EDT
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Yeah, hondas rock but my 3 yr old HRX217 just shit the bed on the self propelled system. Just a belt, but lord help ya, gotta tear down half the mower to replace. Suxed ass.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:34:17 PM EDT
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I never knew so many people didn't change oil on their mowers. No wonder there are so many on the curbs waiting for garbage trucks every week. It's just 15 minutes a year to do it. The Hondas are highly recommended if you have the money. Self propelled systems are durable as long you don't but the cheapest of cheap. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:35:10 PM EDT
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My Ryobi just needs a fresh 40v battery and I am good to go...no oil or gas..
Then again my lawn is not that large...just a standard 70 foot house lot...I can mow it with one full large battery. No need to store any gas in the garage which I was never a fan of these days with the heat in TX. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:40:44 PM EDT
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Never had a problem with mine. Had it for 5 years now. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:02:01 PM EDT
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I didnt know people didnt change lawn mower oil.
 interesting.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:07:13 PM EDT
[#35]
I just can't wrap my head around never changing the oil, it's so cheap and easy and lubrication so critical to the engines lifespan.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:09:35 PM EDT
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I've seen more broken Honda engines on push mowers than I can count, GX series if I recall.
I have a Briggs never change the oil model, I've had it for a couple seasons - doesn't use any oil and it's still clean as day one. I never changed oil in my mowers anyways outside of a rider. No primer, so after it sits all winter it takes a couple pulls, otherwise it's a one or two hit wonder. 
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:09:40 PM EDT
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I just can't wrap my head around never changing the oil, it's so cheap and easy and lubrication so critical to the engines lifespan. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:14:56 PM EDT
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I didnt know people didnt change lawn mower oil. interesting. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:17:08 PM EDT
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QFT. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just can't wrap my head around never changing the oil, it's so cheap and easy and lubrication so critical to the engines lifespan. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:20:30 PM EDT
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Some people will never be able to let themselves do that.
Same as the guys who change their oil every 2500 or 3000 miles still, or let their car warm up for 10 minutes because "their grandfather taught them to". Facts, logic, engineering don't matter. Just whatever folklore is wedged in their head by some well-meaning person. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:21:15 PM EDT
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Guarantee you it was Cleetus or Billy Joe from the refurbish shop said (while standing around like King of the Hill) "Hey, these motors burn so much oil you don't even need to change it." Then it went from a bug to a feature.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:22:27 PM EDT
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I don't change the oil in mine. I just add. There's no need to change, as the mower uses oil. 
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:22:41 PM EDT
[#43]
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I never knew so many people didn't change oil on their mowers. No wonder there are so many on the curbs waiting for garbage trucks every week. It's just 15 minutes a year to do it. The Hondas are highly recommended if you have the money. Self propelled systems are durable as long you don't but the cheapest of cheap Bought a year old, mint $600 push mower one day at a garage sale for $75 from a couple in their 30's.... asked them why they were selling it.... they wanted one with electric start. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:22:58 PM EDT
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I change my riding mowers oil and fuel filter every year. It costs 20 bucks and fakes 15 minutes. That no change shit is for women.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:23:39 PM EDT
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I have an 18-year-old Lawnboy runs great and cut great as long as the grass is not too tall and the self-propel works great. I just bought a used Toro this weekend and its a beast through the high grass but I am not used to the front wheel drive.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:28:47 PM EDT
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I change the oil and sharpen the blade on my 20yr old toro. Its so easy why wouldn't you???
Self propelled systems are belt driven. No real maintenance. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:29:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish they could start making them again. Mine is almost worn out from decades of use. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:29:53 PM EDT
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I can't speak for now, but forty years ago my father purchased a self propelled "Push Mower" I remember we got tired of putting the chain back on the spocket so many times that we ended up disconnecting it altogether. I am rocking a "Weed Eater" brand push mower I bought at Walmart for $60 a few years ago. I would recommend that you stick with a conventional push mower. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:33:45 PM EDT
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Guarantee you it was Cleetus or Billy Joe from the refurbish shop said (while standing around like King of the Hill) "Hey, these motors burn so much oil you don't even need to change it." Then it went from a bug to a feature. |
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:36:31 PM EDT
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Briggs and Stratton ain't what it used to be. Lots of made in China engines.
I replaced the briggs engines on my old Snappers with HF Predator engines when the briggs started smoking. One engine is about 7 years old now and the other is about 5. No problems out of them and they run great. |
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