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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:38:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:40:10 PM EDT
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As a Mass"subject" you should know we can not have nice things here.
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:41:59 PM EDT
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Lawyers
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:42:51 PM EDT
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Democrats lobby against such thing.
Europeans in General, commies and otherwise dont care. American Liberals crusade against the most random things, big picture wise compared to other leftists. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:42:52 PM EDT
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No need we have Indianapolis.
the truth America is run by insurance companies & theycontrol what is allowed & is not. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:43:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:43:21 PM EDT
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As a Mass"subject" you should know we can not have nice things here. 
I'm sure all the coastal states would object, citing safety hazards, pollution hazards, micro agressions etc. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:43:27 PM EDT
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Why don't we have a Nurburgring equivalent? We have so much land, including mountainous terrain etc. And there's certainly a strong support of racing in this country. Which race tracks do you already drive regularly? |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:44:39 PM EDT
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Third post nailed it. Lawsuits, lawyers, and ninnies who cant drive as it is.
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:45:49 PM EDT
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No, but we have hundreds of drag strips, where you go fast in a straight line for a couple of seconds, oh how fun and exciting..
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:45:55 PM EDT
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Third post nailed it. Lawsuits, lawyers, and ninnies who cant drive as it is. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:47:58 PM EDT
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Why don't we have a Nurburgring equivalent? We have so much land, including mountainous terrain etc. And there's certainly a strong support of racing in this country. The Motegi Twin Ring would be more feasible to replicate because the oval could be repurposed for NASCAR races and the rest of it is relatively flat, which is good for motorcycle racing. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:48:11 PM EDT
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but we have the Salt Flats so bite me Germany.
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:49:32 PM EDT
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Which race tracks do you already drive regularly?  . I'm a spectator and a fan. I do have friends who do a bit of racing though.
Just seems strange, the Nurburgring is considered the "gold standard" in the world and we have nothing comparable. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:49:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:52:36 PM EDT
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None . I'm a spectator and a fan. I do have friends who do a bit of racing though.
Just seems strange, the Nurburgring is considered the "gold standard" in the world and we have nothing comparable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Which race tracks do you already drive regularly? . I'm a spectator and a fan. I do have friends who do a bit of racing though.
Just seems strange, the Nurburgring is considered the "gold standard" in the world and we have nothing comparable. The cost of building, maintaining and running a very large venue like the Ring is prohibitive. Ask the owners of the Nurburgring. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:54:20 PM EDT
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We have some great tracks here though, just not the Scale of the Ring.
Road Atlanta Willow Springs Sears Point Barber Motorsports (drove here) Laguna Seca etc. etc. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:55:37 PM EDT
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We have plenty of great tracks in the U.S.. Almost all of them are open to amateurs to drive at sponsored events. The cost of building, maintaining and running a very large venue like the Ring is prohibitive. Ask the owners of the Nurburgring. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:56:47 PM EDT
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Considering the state of repair that I've heard the 'ring is in these days, I don't know how much longer Germany will have it.
It will be a sad day when they close it. Also, it's not owned by the gov't, it's owned by a Russian billionaire, one Viktor Kharitonin. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:56:47 PM EDT
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It was called Watkins Glen
Then a kid spectating was decapitated as he leaned over the hay bail to watch the cars go by. Then it was sectioned off into a rolling hills track instead of dropping all the way to the valley floor and up main st like it used to be. It is still the BEST track in the US |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:58:48 PM EDT
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We are near Vegas. 15 mile track is in the works.
Sounds to be much less accessible to your average car enthusiast though. More of a rich mans playground. Also looks like it's going to have almost no elevation change. 
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:58:51 PM EDT
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Pretty sure the ring is owned by the German gov’t? Or I’ve been misinformed all these years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We have plenty of great tracks in the U.S.. Almost all of them are open to amateurs to drive at sponsored events. The cost of building, maintaining and running a very large venue like the Ring is prohibitive. Ask the owners of the Nurburgring. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:58:57 PM EDT
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As a Mass"subject" you should know we can not have nice things here. Nancy state + morons. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:00:09 AM EDT
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It was called Watkins Glen Then a kid spectating was decapitated as he leaned over the hay bail to watch the cars go by. Then it was sectioned off into a rolling hills track instead of dropping all the way to the valley floor and up main st like it used to be. It is still the BEST track in the US Really, the only con about it is that it is in New York or all fucking places. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:00:28 AM EDT
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It's the road up to Pikes Peak.
 Fastest Pikes Peak Run Ever - Sébastien Loeb in 875HP Peugeot 208 T16 - GTChannel |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:01:54 AM EDT
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This. Nancy state + morons. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As a Mass"subject" you should know we can not have nice things here. Nancy state + morons. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:02:28 AM EDT
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Why don't we have an autobuan for the same reasons?
Car ownership is cheaper here also. Oregon has declared war on speeders/street racing. You literally would be better off driving around with multiple ounces of cocaine in your possession then running another car through a few gears at a stop light. Weed is now legal. Shooting heroin in your homeless tent on public property is ok. I want ofd this planet, watching the mars missions carefully. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:02:35 AM EDT
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I have to say that I agree, Laguna Seca probably scares me more, but the Glen is the most fun place in the country to watch or participate in a race. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was called Watkins Glen Then a kid spectating was decapitated as he leaned over the hay bail to watch the cars go by. Then it was sectioned off into a rolling hills track instead of dropping all the way to the valley floor and up main st like it used to be. It is still the BEST track in the US |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:03:16 AM EDT
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This. Nancy state + morons. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As a Mass"subject" you should know we can not have nice things here. Nancy state + morons. But really the reason these things are hard to get going is money. It's hard to get investors excited about a project that probably won't turn a big profit. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:04:00 AM EDT
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We have some great tracks here though, just not the Scale of the Ring. Road Atlanta Willow Springs Sears Point Barber Motorsports (drove here) Laguna Seca etc. etc. Laguna Seca is on my bucket list |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:04:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:05:26 AM EDT
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Germany is roughly the size of Montana.
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:05:32 AM EDT
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U.S. Highway 395.
North to South. Way better than Nurburgring. WAY BETTER.
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:43:11 AM EDT
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Lawyers much better to race that way also they are so anal about Helmets here in the US - In Germany / the Ring you do not need a Helmet only when you ride a Bike |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:48:59 AM EDT
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I have raced both cars and bicycles at Laguna Seca. It is a fun course once you figure it out. Bicycles hurt regardless of line. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 1:05:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2017 1:07:37 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2017 1:12:17 AM EDT
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Considering the state of repair that I've heard the 'ring is in these days, I don't know how much longer Germany will have it. It will be a sad day when they close it. Also, it's not owned by the gov't, it's owned by a Russian billionaire, one Viktor Kharitonin. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 1:19:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat's the Norisring.
Nürburg =/= Nürnberg/Nuremberg One is in the Eiffel region of Rhineland Pfalz and the other is in northern Bavaria. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 1:23:25 AM EDT
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Considering the state of repair that I've heard the 'ring is in these days, I don't know how much longer Germany will have it. It will be a sad day when they close it. Also, it's not owned by the gov't, it's owned by a Russian billionaire, one Viktor Kharitonin. Management can't get any worse since the Richter/Lindner and Beck years.
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Posted: 10/20/2017 1:40:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2017 2:04:25 AM EDT
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Well, the elevation changes are all natural. To recreate it would be a lot of money in landscaping alone. It would be easier and cheaper to find a hilly area and create a new custom track instead of copying another one. The Motegi Twin Ring would be more feasible to replicate because the oval could be repurposed for NASCAR races and the rest of it is relatively flat, which is good for motorcycle racing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why don't we have a Nurburgring equivalent? We have so much land, including mountainous terrain etc. And there's certainly a strong support of racing in this country. The Motegi Twin Ring would be more feasible to replicate because the oval could be repurposed for NASCAR races and the rest of it is relatively flat, which is good for motorcycle racing. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 2:21:11 AM EDT
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How do you explain the race tracks that we have all over the U.S.? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Third post nailed it. Lawsuits, lawyers, and ninnies who cant drive as it is. 
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Posted: 10/20/2017 2:22:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat's a hell of a road.
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Posted: 10/20/2017 2:23:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2017 2:23:45 AM EDT
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Americans seem to be turn averse.
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Posted: 10/20/2017 2:44:52 AM EDT
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How do you explain the race tracks that we have all over the U.S.? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Third post nailed it. Lawsuits, lawyers, and ninnies who cant drive as it is. It's a toll road anybody can drive up, pay and go on. Japanese tourists who can't drive for shit is some shit low powered rental car being overtaken by 220 bhp motorbikes and 800 bhp cars The mixture of bikes,cars drivers ability all on the 'track' is what makes that place unique. You don't get in anywhere else in the world. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 3:01:47 AM EDT
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Completely different to yours and ours. It's a toll road anybody can drive up, pay and go on. Japanese tourists who can't drive for shit is some shit low powered rental car being overtaken by 220 bhp motorbikes and 800 bhp cars The mixture of bikes,cars drivers ability all on the 'track' is what makes that place unique. You don't get in anywhere else in the world. Show up and pay your 27€/lap, that's it. Just follow the StVO, stay to the right, and don't crunch your car... That doesn't happen anywhere in the US. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 3:12:09 AM EDT
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Yep. No helmets, safety briefs, mandatory club memberships to take part, instructor ride-alongs or any other restrictions. Show up and pay your 27€/lap, that's it. Just follow the StVO, stay to the right, and don't crunch your car... That doesn't happen anywhere in the US. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 3:15:01 AM EDT
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Why don't we have a Nurburgring equivalent? We have so much land, including mountainous terrain etc. And there's certainly a strong support of racing in this country. Because of two things: 1. A large portion of the racing supporters in this country support drag races, which is straight line and all power. 2. A large portion of racing supporters in this country are perfectly content to watch grown men in neutered cars drive in a fucking circle for 500 laps. Things like F1/Indy/rally/autocross/offroad racing just aren't as popular here. |
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