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Posted: 9/24/2017 9:52:46 PM EDT
Unabomber's ciphers

A crazy but fascinating character. Sitting there by candlelight, encoding and decoding messages by hand.   The guy was living in a strange mix of 10th century and the modern world.

It took them decades to figure out the ciphers.
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Unabomber's ciphers

A crazy but fascinating character. Sitting there by candlelight, encoding and decoding messages by hand.   The guy was living in a strange mix of 10th century and the modern world.

It took them decades to figure out the ciphers.
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The fact that they could means that they were weak.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 9:55:31 PM EDT
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If you had read the article, you would see that they could only read them by finding the decoding cipher or instructions how to.

They did not technically crack the cipher or break or decode it.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 9:57:13 PM EDT
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If you had read the article, you would see that they could only read them by finding the decoding cipher or instructions how to.

They did not technically crack the cipher or break or decode it.
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I read the article.
He essentially wrote his computer password on a post-it note.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 9:58:21 PM EDT
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The fact that they could means that they were weak.
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Article said they wouldn’t of if they didn’t have the key.
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I read the article.
He essentially wrote his computer password on a post-it note.
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Yes, he did. And that's the only way they could decode it. He left instructions out in the open.

If he hadn't, nobody would decode it, most likely.

As I said, a fascinating character. An advanced level of math and science merged with the Dark Ages mindset. No electricity or water in the cabin. You need a high 3-digit IQ to process this shyte.
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They found the keys to it; the article admits without it they likely wouldn't have broken the encoding.
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Yes, he did. And that's the only way they could decode it. He left instructions out in the open.

If he hadn't, nobody would decode it, most likely.

As I said, a fascinating character. An advanced level of math and science merged with the Dark Ages mindset. No electricity or water in the cabin. You need a high 3-digit IQ to process this shyte.
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Worship a murderer if you want.  The faggot still wrote his key down.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:01:30 PM EDT
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Yes, he did. And that's the only way they could decode it. He left instructions out in the open.

If he hadn't, nobody would decode it, most likely.

As I said, a fascinating character. An advanced level of math and science merged with the Dark Ages mindset. No electricity or water in the cabin. You need a high 3-digit IQ to process this shyte.
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Cool article; not sure I'd want to decode his stuff and gaze into his mind though.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:03:26 PM EDT
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Just looking at that cipher table, he reminds me of that guy that drew every screw and bolt and tool found in a garage. High OCD or whatever high-level disorder he is affected with, but damn.

When people hear encryption today, they think modern supercomputers and stuff, not charting stuff by the candlelight. That's a very special level of crazy. Unabomb is the definition of mad genius I think.

It's interesting to see that they only got him because he completely underestimated the human factor. Did not occur to him that someone would read the 30,000 word essay and figure him out. He could do advanced math but not something that simple. It's like he was emotionally retarded.  High math IQ, retarded emotional IQ.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:03:26 PM EDT
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I don't think anyone is worshiping him. Just understanding that there are people with insane amount of intelligence that don't always use it for good.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:03:41 PM EDT
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Site gave my phone AIDS.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:06:38 PM EDT
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Wonder if his stuff would help break the Zodiac cyphers.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:07:16 PM EDT
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I don't think anyone is worshiping him. Just understanding that there are people with insane amount of intelligence that don't always use it for good.
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He definitely had more than one screw loose upstairs.

I guess the thing that really points out his insanity - I think he was truly insane and not fit for trial -- is how do you go from his very logical "Manifesto" to blowing up computer store owners and such?  There is no logical link.

I read the Manifesto and it makes a lot of sense. What does *not* make any sense is anything he did since late 70's.  When he did what he did, with mail and stuff, he lost all credibility.

He could have been far more effective if hadn't turned to the dark side.

BTW. The Netflix has an awesome series on him called the Manhunt.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:08:37 PM EDT
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Yeah, but what did he think about nfl players taking a knee?
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There were a couple of articles about the Unibomber on NPR recently.  They nailed him because of peculiar diction he used in his manifesto that could be matched both in his published academic writing and letters to his brother.

The NSA was able to identify the creator of Bitcoin the same way, through his writing.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:37:48 PM EDT
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Well, if they hadn't fried his fucking brain during the MKUltra program, who knows what he could have accomplished.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:38:04 PM EDT
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Worship a murderer if you want.  The faggot still wrote his key down.
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Yes, he did. And that's the only way they could decode it. He left instructions out in the open.

If he hadn't, nobody would decode it, most likely.

As I said, a fascinating character. An advanced level of math and science merged with the Dark Ages mindset. No electricity or water in the cabin. You need a high 3-digit IQ to process this shyte.
Worship a murderer if you want.  The faggot still wrote his key down.
  So, you have your private key committed to memory, do ya?
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:39:14 PM EDT
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Unabomber: Al Gore's Idol.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:41:29 PM EDT
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Well, it didn't say Drink Your Ovaltine.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:43:08 PM EDT
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There were a couple of articles about the Unibomber on NPR recently.  They nailed him because of peculiar diction he used in his manifesto that could be matched both in his published academic writing and letters to his brother.

The NSA was able to identify the creator of Bitcoin the same way, through his writing.
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This is important to remember
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:46:47 PM EDT
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Yes, I do.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:48:14 PM EDT
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I'm intrigued by the brevities he used. Including tenses and whole words as single characters in a cypher is pretty awesome.

Mind blowing that he did it all by hand
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:48:53 PM EDT
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If I'm writing rambling bullshit that I don't want anyone else to read?

Yes.


Seriously, If I'm going to go blowing up random fuckers because I'm batshit, I'm not writing down my encryption scheme.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:53:24 PM EDT
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Judging by the article he was more concerned with documenting his bowel movemwnts
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:56:38 PM EDT
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Ted definitely took the black pill. He saw human life as full of trivial surrogate activities which is the cause of leftism and other psychological problems and the only way to truly end it was to get rid of technology so humans had real shit to concern themselves with, like getting food as opposed to who won a fucking emmy or who won a football game. He killed people to get his manigesto published, which it was published, to spread the message to everyone to go back to simpler times.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:57:40 PM EDT
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There were a couple of articles about the Unibomber on NPR recently.  They nailed him because of peculiar diction he used in his manifesto that could be matched both in his published academic writing and letters to his brother.
The NSA was able to identify the creator of Bitcoin the same way, through his writing.
This is important to remember
Pfft I just use cursive
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 10:59:57 PM EDT
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I think what he is getting at is how intelligent the man is. That combined with dealing with the room temp IQ people out there would be more than enough to make a person be fucking nuts.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 11:08:12 PM EDT
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Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.

Beat.
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The goddamned Germans have got nothing to do with this
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 11:09:37 PM EDT
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Well, if they hadn't fried his fucking brain during the MKUltra program, who knows what he could have accomplished.
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I didn't realize that he was a part of the program until very recently. It explains a lot.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 11:09:49 PM EDT
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Unabomber's ciphers

A crazy but fascinating character. Sitting there by candlelight, encoding and decoding messages by hand.   The guy was living in a strange mix of 10th century and the modern world.

It took them decades to figure out the ciphers.
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I'm 46, so I remember when he was captured for reference.  I just spent the last hour or so reading up on him and skimming his manifesto, "Industrial Society and Its Future."

I wouldn't call him crazy, but rather immoral and unethical. Obviously, he has certain social hang-ups, that make him "off."  However, many respected people have read his manifesto and deemed it to be no less sane than the works of Rousseau or Hobbes.


ETA:  Please don't take the above as any type of praise or even endorsement of the man.  I was only speaking as to whether his writings were crazy or not.  His actions certainly were.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 11:11:15 PM EDT
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Were they?
They were only decoded after finding his key system.
They tied up resources that could have been applied to other cases or other aspects of his case.
Then of course there is the question of timeliness and usefulness of what was decoded.

Just because the codes were deciphered doesnt mean they didn't serve their purpose.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 11:11:31 PM EDT
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Yes, he did. And that's the only way they could decode it. He left instructions out in the open.

If he hadn't, nobody would decode it, most likely.

As I said, a fascinating character. An advanced level of math and science merged with the Dark Ages mindset. No electricity or water in the cabin. You need a high 3-digit IQ to process this shyte.
Worship a murderer if you want.  The faggot still wrote his key down.
  So, you have your private key committed to memory, do ya?
Nah his is likely the same as his public key.
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 11:14:21 PM EDT
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Watching the Netflix series as I read this thread
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Nah his is likely the same as his public key.
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Yes, he did. And that's the only way they could decode it. He left instructions out in the open.

If he hadn't, nobody would decode it, most likely.

As I said, a fascinating character. An advanced level of math and science merged with the Dark Ages mindset. No electricity or water in the cabin. You need a high 3-digit IQ to process this shyte.
Worship a murderer if you want.  The faggot still wrote his key down.
  So, you have your private key committed to memory, do ya?
Nah his is likely the same as his public key.
Or, I don't encrypt anything because I hold no trade secrets and/or I'm not breaking the law.
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Jr. Move.



Smart guys flip them around.
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Just looking at that cipher table, he reminds me of that guy that drew every screw and bolt and tool found in a garage. High OCD or whatever high-level disorder he is affected with, but damn.

When people hear encryption today, they think modern supercomputers and stuff, not charting stuff by the candlelight. That's a very special level of crazy. Unabomb is the definition of mad genius I think.

It's interesting to see that they only got him because he completely underestimated the human factor. Did not occur to him that someone would read the 30,000 word essay and figure him out. He could do advanced math but not something that simple. It's like he was emotionally retarded. High math IQ, retarded emotional IQ.
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that's the answer right there.........
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 11:46:42 PM EDT
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Imagine if those smarts were used for good instead of evil.  What a waste.  

I condemn what he did to the highest degree, but I have a fascination with those types due to their intelligence.  
Link Posted: 9/24/2017 11:59:02 PM EDT
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its probably just P@assw0rd anway

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Link Posted: 9/24/2017 11:59:43 PM EDT
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Imagine if those smarts were used for good instead of evil.  What a waste.  

I condemn what he did to the highest degree, but I have a fascination with those types due to their intelligence.  
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Careful. Someone will be along shortly to condemn you for murder worshiping.
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Screw that. Yogurts by volume or weight?
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:20:48 AM EDT
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What a dumbass.

He went to all the trouble to encrypt everything he wrote for what? He wasn't communicating with anyone with encrypted writings. He was just doing it as mental masturbation. He had to have his key to write and read it. If he was so smart, why didn't he memorize the key?

Like an arfcommer with an ammo fort, he did it for his comfort, not for his protection.
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Weight, they'll light n' fluffy your wallet to death

Thankfully we have big brains on here that know how dumb the unabomber was, leaving clues and keys around. No way he wanted smart enuff ppl to figure out his message.

Back to the real Qs.

What did the unabomber think about transgender bathrooms in the west bank?
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:26:19 AM EDT
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Never knew much about the unibomber except that sketch of a dude with a hoodie and sunglasses.


Just got done reading the wikipedia page on him. This made me lol


Throughout the document, Kaczynski addresses leftism as a movement. He defines leftists as "mainly socialists, collectivists, 'politically correct' types, feminists, gay and disability activists, animal rights activists and the like,"[80] states that leftism is driven primarily by "feelings of inferiority" and "oversocialization,"[76] and derides leftism as "one of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world.
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Who can argue with that??
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I didn't realize that he was a part of the program until very recently. It explains a lot.
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IIRC he wasn't a part of the program but a non-voluntary subject of it... There is a difference.

I can see how living in the woods made sense after being force fed a bucket of LSD and who knows what else while being lab-ratted around by a bunch of spooks.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:15:38 AM EDT
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There were a couple of articles about the Unibomber on NPR recently.  They nailed him because of peculiar diction he used in his manifesto that could be matched both in his published academic writing and letters to his brother.

The NSA was able to identify the creator of Bitcoin the same way, through his writing.
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Nope.

Some guy told a reporter that the NSA had identified Satoshi through stylometric analysis. That's far from the same thing.
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There were a couple of articles about the Unibomber on NPR recently.  They nailed him because of peculiar diction he used in his manifesto that could be matched both in his published academic writing and letters to his brother.

The NSA was able to identify the creator of Bitcoin the same way, through his writing.
This is important to remember
True, ALL "formal" writing should be devoid of any identifying characteristics (even regional ones, be as generic as possible in word choice).
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Ahh  the judgemental arfcomer on a high horse....

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