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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:41:47 PM EDT
I saw one yesterday that I liked the look of. Turns out it is this
So I look it up at http://www.cycleworld.com/2017-harley-davidson-softail-slim-s-0 $18,999. Holy crap. Serious question, what makes HD motorcycles so expensive? |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:43:50 PM EDT
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All the cutting edge engineering.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:45:13 PM EDT
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Quoted:
I saw one yesterday that I liked the look of. Turns out it is this http://www.cycleworld.com/sites/cycleworld.com/files/styles/medium_4x3/public/buyers_guide/2017/2017_Harley-Davidson_S-Series_Slim_4x3.jpg?itok=otnuuz4o So I look it up at http://www.cycleworld.com/2017-harley-davidson-softail-slim-s-0 $18,999. Holy crap. Serious question, what makes HD motorcycles so expensive? Made with American labor. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:45:15 PM EDT
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That is the "S" model which has the bigger 110 inch motor.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:46:09 PM EDT
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All the cutting edge engineering. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:46:33 PM EDT
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Branding. They are that expensive because Harley buyers are willing to pay that price tag.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:46:35 PM EDT
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Kinda like buying a Colt AR when there is much better out there for the same price or less. The name.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:47:06 PM EDT
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Nice bike I like.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:48:24 PM EDT
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I ride one and I'll tell ya its not worth the money
I enjoy it but I don't enjoy it 2x more than I'd enjoy a jap bike for half the money |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:50:18 PM EDT
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Even BMW and KTM adventure bikes are more $$, and on the upper end BMW bikes, they sure could use better Suspension.
Unions$$ and demand too. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:51:21 PM EDT
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GD Harley thread.
In for the hate. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:53:42 PM EDT
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Also that paint adds at least $1,000 to the price. Pictures don't begin to show how nice that color really is!!!!
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Posted: 8/20/2017 6:56:42 PM EDT
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It's called a Slim . I have a 2014 and it has been a good bike .
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:02:04 PM EDT
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Because LOT's of people are stupid enough to pay that.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:04:00 PM EDT
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I ride one and I'll tell ya its not worth the money I enjoy it but I don't enjoy it 2x more than I'd enjoy a jap bike for half the money |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:05:17 PM EDT
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UAW
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:06:36 PM EDT
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You have to pay for the safety those loud pipes provide.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:07:07 PM EDT
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Think of the truck you could buy for that money.
With air conditioning, a roof, heat, a radio, etc...etc... Motorcycle, ATV, side by side prices are just plain stupid. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:07:13 PM EDT
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Made in the USA.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:11:04 PM EDT
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The Japanese bike prices are getting up there and the new american made Indians are priced very close to the Harleys. Despite what you may think you know about bikes Harley still owns the segment and they make a good product. The top products are 20,000 bucks but they have cheaper models in every segment. No reason to believe that Harleys are over priced at this time.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:11:51 PM EDT
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Because Harley Davidson™
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:14:45 PM EDT
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GD Harley thread. In for the hate. The BMW, KTM, Triumph, Ducati, etc are packed with technology which helps explain their cost. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:16:13 PM EDT
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Also that paint adds at least $1,000 to the price. Pictures don't begin to show how nice that color really is!!!!  ) It was a young guy riding, with Army plates, which made it even better. OEM pipes, so not loud.
and yup, truly gorgeous color. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:17:46 PM EDT
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Because Harley Davidson™ |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:19:05 PM EDT
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Harley has the best fit and finish of any bike out there in my opinion. They are as well built as anything on the market. They do not have the most power or technology. Their customers aren't interested in being the fastest or having the latest technological whizz bangs.
For the record I have six bikes from six different countries. Only one is a Harley and it is an antique. My daily ride is a 2016 BMW GSA. It is a technological wonder but the fit and finish isn't remotely in the same league as that Softail. Plus it cost more too ;) |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:19:07 PM EDT
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Everything is relative. Go compare the Harley and Honda Touring bikes.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:19:34 PM EDT
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I can say everything on my Harley is well made. There isn't any chinese crap hardware or cast metal where there should be forged, etc. In fact, I think it's better made than modern US made trucks. The technology in that bike is incredible.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:21:51 PM EDT
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Ride one, then go ride some jap crap, it'll come to ya.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:22:05 PM EDT
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Dumb customers
Unions |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:22:06 PM EDT
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My favorite motorcycle is HD-expensive now, but it flies. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:23:53 PM EDT
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Fags.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:24:13 PM EDT
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https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/yamaha-vmax-60th-anniversary-shows-how-the-bike-should-really-be-like-photo-gallery_16.jpg My favorite motorcycle is HD-expensive now, but it flies. I had to.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:24:31 PM EDT
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To each their own.
Not my thing at any price. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:24:40 PM EDT
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What makes Harleys so expensive? Simple. The United States Congress. Back when HD was about to go bankrupt, in the '80s if I remember correctly, a bunch of politicians used that opportunity to "save an American Icon" and put a tariff on every imported motorcycle. This artificially inflated the cost of all bikes and allowed Harley-Davidson to jack up the price of their bikes overnight until they could be profitable again. It's been decades and HD doesn't need the help anymore, but when was the last time you saw the government repeal a tax?
And a quick search turns up this article from the NYT back in 1983 about this little bit of protectionism: http://www.nytimes.com/1983/04/02/business/us-raises-tariff-for-motorcycles.html |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:24:51 PM EDT
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Bikers are the worst trash on earth. After seeing the picture you posted I may start cooking meth and join your ranks
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:25:39 PM EDT
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The letters: H. a. r. l. e. y.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:26:41 PM EDT
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U don't ride....an Indian? I had to. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:28:02 PM EDT
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You're paying for the American made labor, resale value and iconic feel.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:28:19 PM EDT
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Supply/demand.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:32:59 PM EDT
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Supply/demand. They seem to be doing ok. They have done better in the past. They have also done worse. If they can sell these.....and many of them for that price, then good for HD. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 7:49:07 PM EDT
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You're paying for the brand name and some towards dealer network, it's not supply/demand. Harley has posted negative quarter results for a long time now while other makers are going positive.
If I was buying an American made cruiser now I would be looking at an Indian. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 8:06:43 PM EDT
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You're paying for the American made labor, resale value and iconic feel. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 8:10:17 PM EDT
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Think of the truck you could buy for that money. With air conditioning, a roof, heat, a radio, etc...etc... Motorcycle, ATV, side by side prices are just plain stupid. ATVs prices are flat out nuts for recreational use, at least to me. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 8:17:37 PM EDT
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Ride one, then go ride some jap crap, it'll come to ya. Harleys are quality built, but some Japanese bikes are equal or better quality than Harley. Calling them "jap crap" is just ignorant. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 8:19:26 PM EDT
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Safest bikes on the road from what I hear....
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Posted: 8/20/2017 8:19:31 PM EDT
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In a roundabout way... because they were recipients of yet another bailout a while ago.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 8:20:46 PM EDT
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GD Harley thread. In for the hate. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 8:25:02 PM EDT
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Branding. They are that expensive because Harley buyers are willing to pay that price tag. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 8:26:07 PM EDT
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Once you replace the seat, handlebars, cables, brakes, exhaust,front and rear suspension they handle and are quite comfortable
Motor doesn't last for shit. Do yourself a huge favor and get the extended warranty, This is coming from a Harley snob. I have owned a few and a custom bike and even had a suzuki once. I have to admit i judge all bikes from my old hayabusa Personally i will never spend more than 5k on a clean titled harley because your going to replace everything bolted to it anyhow |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 8:26:44 PM EDT
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And softtails suck, get a old dyna or fxr
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Posted: 8/20/2017 8:33:17 PM EDT
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Supply and demand. Lots of people are willing and able to pay that for a Harley. If they didn't sell well, Harley would lower the prices. Same reason Toyotas and iPhones command premium prices.
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