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Posted: 6/22/2017 10:12:58 AM EDT
There is a person I am aware of thats passing himself off as a former P.O.W...He is 61 and I have serious doubts to his claim. Is there a accurate database somewhere? Thanks to all who reply
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Sneak up behind him and yell "MAO!!"
report back with reaction. Bonus points if you put a Nagant pistol in front of him first. |
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Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency
And request his service records with a Freedom of Information Act request. He's 61? Too young for Vietnam. Last US units left RVN in March 29, 1973. POWS were released February - March 1973. Born in 1956, he'd have been 17 (in 1973). He would have enlisted at 15 to get through training and be assigned to a unit in Vietnam, captured and released. And policy was that you had to be 18 to go to Vietnam. So what other opportunities to be a POW? Grenada? None. Panama? None. El Salvador? None. A contra POW taken by the Sandinistas? 1 - Eugene Hasenfus, but he was born in 1941 and was 45 when he fell out of the C-123. And he was CIA. DESERT SHIELD / STORM? Is he on this list of POW/MIA? Also these guys. And my favorite "busters". |
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POW during what engagement? If he's 61 now, wouldn't that put like 16 yrs old in 1972? Seems too young for Vietnam.
Panama? Desert Storm? |
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Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency And request his service records with a Freedom of Information Act request. He's 61? Too young for Vietnam. Last US units left RVN in March 29, 1973. POWS were released February - March 1973. Born in 1956, he'd have been 17 (in 1973). He would have enlisted at 15 to get through training and be assigned to a unit in Vietnam, captured and released. And policy was that you had to be 18 to go to Vietnam. So what other opportunities to be a POW? Grenada? None. Panama? None. El Salvador? None. A contra POW taken by the Sandinistas? 1 - Eugene Hasenfus, but he was born in 1941 and was 45 when he fell out of the C-123. And he was CIA. DESERT SHIELD / STORM? Is he on this list of POW/MIA? Also these guys. And my favorite "busters". View Quote |
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Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency And request his service records with a Freedom of Information Act request. He's 61? Too young for Vietnam. Last US units left RVN in March 29, 1973. POWS were released February - March 1973. Born in 1956, he'd have been 17 (in 1973). He would have enlisted at 15 to get through training and be assigned to a unit in Vietnam, captured and released. And policy was that you had to be 18 to go to Vietnam. So what other opportunities to be a POW? Grenada? None. Panama? None. El Salvador? None. A contra POW taken by the Sandinistas? 1 - Eugene Hasenfus, but he was born in 1941 and was 45 when he fell out of the C-123. And he was CIA. DESERT SHIELD / STORM? Is he on this list of POW/MIA? Also these guys. And my favorite "busters". View Quote |
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If he's 61, that would mean he had to have served within the last 44 years-if he enlisted at 17. That would mean he joined in 1973 or later.
The last flights of repatriated POWs from Vietnam occurred in March 1973. So, we can rule out his having been a Vietnam War POW. If his name is not on this list, he wasn't a POW since the end of the Vietnam War. The 35 POWs captured since the end of the Vietnam War: Lebanon DEC 1983 Lt Cdr Robert Goodman Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm 1990/91 Lt Col Clifford Acree CPT William Andrews CPT Michael Berryman MAJ Rhonda Cornum SGT Troy Dunlop COL David Eberly LTC Jeffrey Fox MAJ Thomas Griffith CWO Guy Hunter PVT Lem Jeffries SPC David Lockett SPC Melissa Rathburn-Nealy 1LT Kevin Rice CPT Harry Roberts CPT Russell Sanborn LT Lawrence Slade MAJ Joseph Small SSG Daniel Stamaris LT Richard Storr 1LT Robert Sweet MAJ Jeffrey Tice LT Robert Wetzel LT Jeffrey Zaun Somalia 1993 CWO Michael Durant Kosovo 1999 SSG Christopher Stone SSG Andrew Ramirez SPC Steven Gonzalez Operation Iraqi Freedom SPC Edgar Hernandez SPC Joseph Hudson SPC Shoshana Johnson PFC Jessica Lynch PFC Patrick Miller SGT James Riley CWO David Williams CWO Ronald Young Of the ones on that list, Bobby Goodman, Thomas Griffith, and Jeffrey Tice, are possiblities. Goodman graduated from the USNA in 1978, putting his year of birth around 1956, which would make him 61 this year. MAJ Griffith, captured during ODS, graduated from the USAFA in 1979, so he could possibly be 61, depending on his birthday. MAJ Jeffrey Tice was 35 when he was captured in 1991, 26 years ago, so he'd be 61 right now. |
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If he's 61, that would mean he had to have served within the last 44 years-if he enlisted at 17. That would mean he joined in 1973 or later. The last flights of repatriated POWs from Vietnam occurred in March 1973. So, we can rule out his having been a Vietnam War POW. If his name is not on this list, he wasn't a POW since the end of the Vietnam War. The 35 POWs captured since the end of the Vietnam War: Lebanon DEC 1983 Lt Cdr Robert Goodman Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm 1990/91 Lt Col Clifford Acree CPT William Andrews CPT Michael Berryman MAJ Rhonda Cornum SGT Troy Dunlop COL David Eberly LTC Jeffrey Fox MAJ Thomas Griffith CWO Guy Hunter PVT Lem Jeffries SPC David Lockett SPC Melissa Rathburn-Nealy 1LT Kevin Rice CPT Harry Roberts CPT Russell Sanborn LT Lawrence Slade MAJ Joseph Small SSG Daniel Stamaris LT Richard Storr 1LT Robert Sweet MAJ Jeffrey Tice LT Robert Wetzel LT Jeffrey Zaun Somalia 1993 CWO Michael Durant Kosovo 1999 SSG Christopher Stone SSG Andrew Ramirez SPC Steven Gonzalez Operation Iraqi Freedom SPC Edgar Hernandez SPC Joseph Hudson SPC Shoshana Johnson PFC Jessica Lynch PFC Patrick Miller SGT James Riley CWO David Williams CWO Ronald Young Of the ones on that list, only Bobby Goodman, the A-6 Bombardier Navigator shot down over Lebanon is a real possibility. Goodman graduated from the USNA in 1978, putting his year of birth around 1956, which would make him 61 this year. View Quote |
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Is he claiming to be an AMERICAN POW, though? If he's an immigrant, he would have had plenty of time to get into trouble in the old country.
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If his name is not on this list, he wasn't a POW since the end of the Vietnam War. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
If his name is not on this list, he wasn't a POW since the end of the Vietnam War. 1. The lists which follow do not include US military personnel taken captive by terrorists in peacetime terrorist incidents. (Examples would include the captivity of US Army BG James Dozier and the temporary captivity and execution of US Navy PO2 Robert Stethem on TWA Flight 847.) Sorry, compiling such a list and verifying it to any degree of accuracy would be a massive undertaking that would take a great deal more time than I have available at present.
2. The lists which follow do not include personnel taken prisoner during Cold War intelligence operations. (An example would be Gary Powers, captured and held prisoner by the Soviets after his U2 was shot down over the USSR on 1 May 1960.) That too is a major undertaking, and one for which some pertinent details and names may possibly not yet be declassified. |
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Ask him to hold onto a watch for you. Ask for it back in a week ava smell it.
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$10 says when confronted he says "It was classified." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If he's 61, that would mean he had to have served within the last 44 years-if he enlisted at 17. That would mean he joined in 1973 or later. The last flights of repatriated POWs from Vietnam occurred in March 1973. So, we can rule out his having been a Vietnam War POW. If his name is not on this list, he wasn't a POW since the end of the Vietnam War. The 35 POWs captured since the end of the Vietnam War: Lebanon DEC 1983 Lt Cdr Robert Goodman Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm 1990/91 Lt Col Clifford Acree CPT William Andrews CPT Michael Berryman MAJ Rhonda Cornum SGT Troy Dunlop COL David Eberly LTC Jeffrey Fox MAJ Thomas Griffith CWO Guy Hunter PVT Lem Jeffries SPC David Lockett SPC Melissa Rathburn-Nealy 1LT Kevin Rice CPT Harry Roberts CPT Russell Sanborn LT Lawrence Slade MAJ Joseph Small SSG Daniel Stamaris LT Richard Storr 1LT Robert Sweet MAJ Jeffrey Tice LT Robert Wetzel LT Jeffrey Zaun Somalia 1993 CWO Michael Durant Kosovo 1999 SSG Christopher Stone SSG Andrew Ramirez SPC Steven Gonzalez Operation Iraqi Freedom SPC Edgar Hernandez SPC Joseph Hudson SPC Shoshana Johnson PFC Jessica Lynch PFC Patrick Miller SGT James Riley CWO David Williams CWO Ronald Young Of the ones on that list, only Bobby Goodman, the A-6 Bombardier Navigator shot down over Lebanon is a real possibility. Goodman graduated from the USNA in 1978, putting his year of birth around 1956, which would make him 61 this year. |
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One of my friends Capt William Andrews (BA) is on the list. Sadly he died of brain cancer last year.
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Why didn't you just ask him "Where/When?" immediately upon him saying he was a POW?
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Ask him if you could see is dd form 214 or if he could get an erb not sure how that all works for soldiers of wars past but it's worth a shot if your that concerned. I know a lot of people could care less about stolen valor but i think it's a bunch of shit. Is he trying to use that status for any type of financial gain?
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Seems like someone once said.... "I like people who weren't captured"
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If he's 61, that would mean he had to have served within the last 44 years-if he enlisted at 17. That would mean he joined in 1973 or later. The last flights of repatriated POWs from Vietnam occurred in March 1973. So, we can rule out his having been a Vietnam War POW. If his name is not on this list, he wasn't a POW since the end of the Vietnam War. The 35 POWs captured since the end of the Vietnam War: Lebanon DEC 1983 Lt Cdr Robert Goodman Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm 1990/91 Lt Col Clifford Acree CPT William Andrews CPT Michael Berryman MAJ Rhonda Cornum SGT Troy Dunlop COL David Eberly LTC Jeffrey Fox MAJ Thomas Griffith CWO Guy Hunter PVT Lem Jeffries SPC David Lockett SPC Melissa Rathburn-Nealy 1LT Kevin Rice CPT Harry Roberts CPT Russell Sanborn LT Lawrence Slade MAJ Joseph Small SSG Daniel Stamaris LT Richard Storr 1LT Robert Sweet MAJ Jeffrey Tice LT Robert Wetzel LT Jeffrey Zaun Somalia 1993 CWO Michael Durant Kosovo 1999 SSG Christopher Stone SSG Andrew Ramirez SPC Steven Gonzalez Operation Iraqi Freedom SPC Edgar Hernandez SPC Joseph Hudson SPC Shoshana Johnson PFC Jessica Lynch PFC Patrick Miller SGT James Riley CWO David Williams CWO Ronald Young Of the ones on that list, Bobby Goodman, Thomas Griffith, and Jeffrey Tice, are possiblities. Goodman graduated from the USNA in 1978, putting his year of birth around 1956, which would make him 61 this year. MAJ Griffith, captured during ODS, graduated from the USAFA in 1979, so he could possibly be 61, depending on his birthday. MAJ Jeffrey Tice was 35 when he was captured in 1991, 26 years ago, so he'd be 61 right now. View Quote |
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The Marine guards taken hostage at the Embassy are NOT considered POW's?
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There is a person I am aware of thats passing himself off as a former P.O.W...He is 61 and I have serious doubts to his claim. Is there a accurate database somewhere? Thanks to all who reply View Quote 61? Lol, my Dad is 60, he graduated highschool in 1975. Fuckstick is too young to have been anything other than a cold war veteran. Yay Math! ETA: He would've been 35 for the Gulf War. Too old to be a grunt, so unless he was a pilot, he is most likely full of shit. |
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61? Lol, my Dad is 60, he graduated highschool in 1975. Fuckstick is too young to have been anything other than a cold war veteran. Yay Math! ETA: He would've been 35 for the Gulf War. Too old to be a grunt, so unless he was a pilot, he is most likely full of shit. View Quote But all grunts aren't PFCs. There are 35 year old grunts. Lots of NCOs in the infantry business. |
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The guy is probably full of shit, for sure. But all grunts aren't PFCs. There are 35 year old grunts. Lots of NCOs in the infantry business. View Quote |
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That is true, if he wasn't a fuck up, or wasn't broken by then he would've been an NCO. I'll freely admit that I'm not sure how age works in the army, but I wouldn't be surprised if an infantry guy was all fucked up from doing infantry things by the time they hit 35. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The guy is probably full of shit, for sure. But all grunts aren't PFCs. There are 35 year old grunts. Lots of NCOs in the infantry business. |
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Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency And request his service records with a Freedom of Information Act request. He's 61? Too young for Vietnam. Last US units left RVN in March 29, 1973. POWS were released February - March 1973. Born in 1956, he'd have been 17 (in 1973). He would have enlisted at 15 to get through training and be assigned to a unit in Vietnam, captured and released. And policy was that you had to be 18 to go to Vietnam. So what other opportunities to be a POW? Grenada? None. Panama? None. El Salvador? None. A contra POW taken by the Sandinistas? 1 - Eugene Hasenfus, but he was born in 1941 and was 45 when he fell out of the C-123. And he was CIA. DESERT SHIELD / STORM? Is he on this list of POW/MIA? Also these guys. And my favorite "busters". View Quote Noice! |
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I've known a few men that considered themselves to be POW's. Actually they just married the wrong woman.
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Ask him if you could see is dd form 214 or if he could get an erb not sure how that all works for soldiers of wars past but it's worth a shot if your that concerned. I know a lot of people could care less about stolen valor but i think it's a bunch of shit. Is he trying to use that status for any type of financial gain? View Quote |
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