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Posted: 6/24/2003 1:11:24 AM EDT
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Quoted: If things go right, I will be picking up a 2001 Electra-glide Classic (maybe Ultra Classic - not sure) tomorrow - CHEAP!! We're talking under a grand... I did not have this budgeted but it was a now or never deal and will cost me a little over one week's pay. The bike was wrecked and needs quite a bit of cosmetic restoration - upper and lower fairings, dented tank, bags, side panels, lights, etc. Engine ,frame, exhaust, and (AFAIK) forks are fine. Should I replace everything with Genuine Harley parts or will aftermarket parts reduce the value? Where is a good place to buy? The local Harley dealer is an ass and I have serious doubts about getting any good deals there. Keep in mind I am shipping parts to Alaska, so that can be a major cost addition... My plan is to restore it over the winter and sell it next spring - unless I grow too attached to it [:)]. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. TIA Shadowblade Nothing wrong with aftermarket but check with some Harley people on where to find the best deals. It seems there are HD dealers that are a$$holes in places other than IN. |
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Posted: 6/24/2003 1:20:02 AM EDT
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try www.chicagoharleydavidson.com for decent parts prices. I hear they sell at discount, although I havent tried them. I would stay H-D on the major parts like the fairings, tank, etc, but with things like grips or mirrors and pegs and stuff, aftermarket is fine and wont really hurt value. What hurts value the most is the fact it was wrecked and repaired. If you buy genuine H-D tank and fairings and side panels, you can buy them already painted and decaled just like what was original so you wont need to paint anything. Might try some of the H-D accessories too to replace some of the stock parts that you already have to throw away as damaged. Some of the accessory parts are the same price, or cheaper, than the original equipment and its still genuine Harley.
Get a H-D service manual BEFORE you begin or you will spend many hundreds, or thousands, of dollars more on things you screwed up or ruined that you wouldnt have had you had a manual to read. Might also get a parts manual too so you have the part numbers before you go to the dealer. |
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Posted: 6/24/2003 3:02:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: ...The bike was wrecked and needs quite a bit of cosmetic restoration - upper and lower fairings, dented tank, bags, side panels, lights, etc. Engine ,frame, exhaust, and (AFAIK) [i][red]forks are fine[/red][/i]. ... What irony, all that shit busted and the forks are OK? Ha, they're usually the first to go. ... I would take a trusted mechanic friend with you to assess to be sure of what you're getting into. |
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Posted: 6/24/2003 4:19:15 AM EDT
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If the motor & tranny are truly unharmed, you've got a great deal right off the bat. HD enging & tranny brand new would run you $4k or so.
Chicago HD does sell at a 10% discount off list, but can be a major pain in the neck to deal with. There is another HD dealer that does 10% off list but the name escapes me at the moment. I'll try and find out and get back to you. |
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Posted: 6/24/2003 4:42:13 AM EDT
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Criminy! -- The radio/cassette/cb alone from a Ultra Classic would be near a grand! You got a smokin' deal and will come out smelling like a rose if you fix the thing right.
BTW it does sound like you gota' Ultra. The Electra Glide Standard and Classic don't have lower fairings unless the owner added them. As far as OEM vs. Aftermarket, I'd recommend OEM for the "integral" parts of the bike. You probably don't have a lot of choices for those parts anyway, if you want to end up with something that looks like a Harley, and not some JC Whitney bolt together crap. The bags and fairing will likely be expensive parts and I'd get the forks checked out throrougly. I find it hard to belive you could wreck one hard enough to make it only worth a grand and not damage the forks. If you're working on a budget, I'd suggest considering skipping the lower fairings and using that money elsewhere. They are not really a must have, but might be nice to streach what I imagine must be a fairly shorting riding season in AK. For things like turnsignals and other minor chrome bits, aftermarket is fine. |
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Posted: 6/24/2003 5:21:57 AM EDT
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How is the title situation?
I would probanly strip it down to the frame and have it checked for straightness.Then Slowly begin reassembling it. Check swap meets and places like ebay. There is a lot of people selling parts that they removed to replace with custom aftermarket stuff. Personally I would sell it in peices unless you have a clean title that isn't a salvage or cusstom build. If the title is still a clean HD title, it and the frame is probably worth $2000. The motor-$3500- 4000 and the tranny should be worth $600-1000. Cruizer |
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Posted: 6/24/2003 5:45:38 AM EDT
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Quoted: try www.chicagoharleydavidson.com for decent parts prices. Then take it up the tailpipe in shipping and handling! Wow, goodluck getting it back together. That's a hell of a deal. |
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Posted: 6/24/2003 6:08:31 AM EDT
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I predict you will spend more than you make if you sell it after you've finished "restoring" it. Have fun.
AB |
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Posted: 6/24/2003 6:28:21 AM EDT
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Do you want a restoration or a rebuild? Custom Chrome has nice chrome and parts for harleys (Albeit I usually only make it into their catalog as far as the softtail stuff...)
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Posted: 6/24/2003 6:34:43 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info guys!
What is the best service manual to get? I'll pick up that and a parts manual as soon as the bike is in my possession - Tomorrow morning it looks like now due to the long wait at DMV. EDIT: The forks look undamaged, but I will definitely check them out thouroughly. The damage is - well - weird. It looks like it was just dropped upside down. Rumor is that the previous owner had it out too early and the accident was ice related which could account for some of it. The title will likely be listed as a rebuild. I can't get a title and registration on a wrecked vehicle so until it is restored, there is no title - just a bill of sale and a surety bond showing me as the owner. |
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Posted: 6/24/2003 6:50:16 PM EDT
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I would guess you could find most parts on Ebay.
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Posted: 6/25/2003 9:41:33 PM EDT
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PICS!
After closer inspection, the forks are damaged. The bolt holes to mount the fender are broken off. Unfortunately I may just have to part it out[:(]. [img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=14127[/img] Tour pak is crushed, but the rear fender is fine. Right bag paint is scratched, but otherwise fine. Seat is undamaged, removed to charge battery. [img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=14128[/img] Engine, tranny, exhaust are untouched - 5000 miles on the odometer. Frame still looks good so far. [img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=14129[/img] |
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Posted: 6/25/2003 9:48:55 PM EDT
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Get new forks, and strip it.
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Posted: 6/25/2003 11:03:38 PM EDT
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I agree with Silence. There's enough to save on the bike, all the previous owner did was crash off all the crap that you don't really need anyway. Pull the fork, pull the tank, just strip it down nearly to a bare frame, and then once you've built it back up to a street legal bike with turn signals and such, leave it that way and don't try to buy all the bashed around full dresser stuff. Leave the sidesaddles on if you must, they still look fine. You can probably make enough money to buy forks and a tank by selling all the useless chrome brackets and tubing and crap that Harley just throws onto the full dressers for no apparent reason except love of chrome doodads that say HD on them.
When I say strip it down, I mean sell everything that don't make it go! And since you need new forks anyway, maybe you can have a local shop bust out the welder and alter your triple clamp/steering head angle. I mean, the bike is going to need a repaint anyway, and how much fun would THIS be: [url]http://www.hdcs.se/bilder1/chopper.jpg[/url] [url]http://www.cyclerides.com/photos/bikephotos/bikephotos8-3/2003deucecvo.jpg[/url] [url]http://www.cyclerides.com/photos/bikephotos/bikephotos8-3/deuceheartland.jpg[/url] |
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Posted: 6/25/2003 11:06:47 PM EDT
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A stripped down FLHT huh?
Fix the forks, fender, and tank. Get a headlight and turn signals.... Strip the bags and racks... A heavywieght HD rat-bike.... You just might be on to something. Hell, I'd just keep it and sell whatever parts I took off. It's a thought... Anyone have links to pictures of similar projects - or even just to an FLH frame and I can imagine the rest. |
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Posted: 6/25/2003 11:08:17 PM EDT
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If the frame is bent, you might be able to fix it if the bend isn't that bad.
But, if it is bad, I'd say part it out. No sence having a "money pit" ya'know. |
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Posted: 6/26/2003 5:30:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: I agree with Silence. There's enough to save on the bike, all the previous owner did was crash off all the crap that you don't really need anyway. Pull the fork, pull the tank, just strip it down nearly to a bare frame, and then once you've built it back up to a street legal bike with turn signals and such, leave it that way and don't try to buy all the bashed around full dresser stuff. Leave the sidesaddles on if you must, they still look fine. You can probably make enough money to buy forks and a tank by selling all the useless chrome brackets and tubing and crap that Harley just throws onto the full dressers for no apparent reason except love of chrome doodads that say HD on them. When I say strip it down, I mean sell everything that don't make it go! And since you need new forks anyway, maybe you can have a local shop bust out the welder and alter your triple clamp/steering head angle. I mean, the bike is going to need a repaint anyway, and how much fun would THIS be: [url]http://www.hdcs.se/bilder1/chopper.jpg[/url] [url]http://www.cyclerides.com/photos/bikephotos/bikephotos8-3/2003deucecvo.jpg[/url] [url]http://www.cyclerides.com/photos/bikephotos/bikephotos8-3/deuceheartland.jpg[/url] Dude, you're never gonna end up with a bike like those starting with an FLH. Looking at what you have in front of you I'd say, replace the front end (forks/fairing, etc), the fuels tank, strip off the tourpack, but fix/replace the saddle bags and paint her up. I'm guessing $3-6K should do it depending on how much of the work you do yourself. Down here in VA I would expect you could easily double your money when it comes time to sell. If you don't intend to keep the bike and ride it, I'd part it out. There's a lot of stuff there that will fetch more that you paid. Again, just the sound system will likely get almost what you paid for the bike. |
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Posted: 6/26/2003 5:42:35 AM EDT
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Are you sure the forks are that damaged? I can't tell fron the pic if they are bent. I can see the covers are dented. You can get the fender brackets re-welded or just buy lower legs. There are numerous places to find the parts you need or to sell them if you want to part it out. E-mail me for the board I'm thinking of. It's a chopper swap board, so those guys sell the stuff you need after they take them off. You've done well buddy. You can go to a Road King setup on the windshield / fairing cheaper that a resto. The side bags are great. You can get a used tour pack reasonably & tanks can be had on the same board I will send you. I think you can get the parts for under a grand.
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Posted: 6/26/2003 5:59:07 AM EDT
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[Jeff Spicoi]Relax, alright? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.[/Jeff Spicoli]
I'll agree with others here. You've got a gread head start on a project bike. Because of the odd title issue, you'd better go ahead and make this bike whatever [b]you[/b] want it to be, because it'll be tough to sell down the road. I've never seen a bike damaged in this manner. You're right - it looks like the thing was dropped upside-down. Weird. WRT parts, this is one of the real beauties of a Harley. They're like the 1911 of motorcycles (or vice-versa). There are parts available on the aftermarket to make it into anything you want - rat bike, cruiser, drag bike, hillclimber, you name it. There are loads of H-D places in AK already. Do some looking, and I'm sure you'll find everything you need. If not, just consolidate all the parts from the lower 48 at one place, and make a parts run every 6 months or so to Seattle or somewhere within a couple days' drive. |
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Posted: 6/26/2003 6:00:20 AM EDT
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you got that for under a grand?!?!?!?!
way good deal. i'm with the crowd...lose the tour-pak, fairing and sound system. fix/replace the tank, fender and any front end parts. unless you plan on touring mega-miles that dressers are best at, all that added crap makes for a true pig. |
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Posted: 6/26/2003 10:03:36 AM EDT
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Quoted: unless you plan on touring mega-miles that dressers are best at, all that added crap makes for a true pig. Watch it there dude! You're talkin' 'bout my FLH there! LOL Actually I recently traded my 1996 FXDWG that I'd tranformed into a real "bar bike" for a 2003 Electra-Glide Standard. What all that "added crap" means to me is that I can easily do a better than 500 mile day and still be fit to party and I never again have to suffer the shivering and chattering teeth from freezing since I always have a sweatshirt and jacket in one of my bags. |
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