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Posted: 11/4/2015 5:36:58 PM EDT
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Yes but don't expect rifle like accuracy.
Rifles slugs are designed to be fired from smooth bore barrels. Just don't use full choke or anything tighter. I expect you can get about 3" group at 25 yards maybe a little better or a little worse. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 5:37:47 PM EDT
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Yes but don't expect rifle like accuracy. Out of any shotgun. 
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Posted: 11/4/2015 5:41:36 PM EDT
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Yes.
Rifled slug is kind of a gimmick. The rifling does nothing for its ballistics. Think of it as a badminton birdie/shuttlecock where the weight is in the front. Rifle sights vs a bead will help your accuracy with slugs. Some guns have a combo rifled bbl which allows sabot slugs, which are more accurate than Foster/rifled slugs. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 5:41:56 PM EDT
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You can get rifle like accuracy out of a Browning A Bolt slug gun.
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Posted: 11/4/2015 5:43:45 PM EDT
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It would be best to get an 870 express with a 20" deer barrel
you can buy them used for a song they are a good gun, especially the old ones Remington makes a rifled choke for their remchoke barrels, even having just a few inches of rifling helps a lot sometimes slugs shoot better with the rifled remchoke than a full rifled barrel don't be afraid to buy a commercial type gun instead of the modern tacticool version the old timers were very demanding consumers and a lot of those wood and steel guns are excellent |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 5:46:07 PM EDT
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You can get rifle like accuracy out of a Browning A Bolt slug gun. If it has fully rifles barrel then yes you'll get better accuracy but no where near rifle like accuracy. Rifled slugs never give rifle like accuracy. Fully rifled barrels are a lot more accurate with sabot slugs. I've shot Savage 12G bolt action slug guns with fully rifled barrels and using sabot slugs was able to get 2" group at 100 yards. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 5:54:04 PM EDT
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I already have the shotgun, I just wanted to shoot some slugs for fun and wanted to check first that they wouldn't blow my barrel.
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Posted: 11/4/2015 5:58:04 PM EDT
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Buy every brand you can find. Shotguns more so than rifles can be ammo sensitive. Find some Breneke slugs .
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Posted: 11/4/2015 6:02:31 PM EDT
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Just make sure the rifling on the barrel twists the same way as the rifling on the slug, or they will cancel each other out and you'll be shooting knuckleballs.
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Posted: 11/4/2015 6:03:34 PM EDT
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I'd try to find an older Remington 870 Wingmaster Deer, preferably one marked Magnum for 3" shells. I have 2 in left hand, and they are very smooth guns with much better fit/finish than the Express line of 870's.
The sights on the deer barrels aren't too bad if you swap in Trijicon tritium sights, they offer a much better sight picture. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 6:05:10 PM EDT
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My 18" 870 with ghost ring sights is plenty accurate at 100 yards with Remington Sluggers
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Posted: 11/4/2015 6:13:11 PM EDT
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Buy several brands. Cut one of each brand open, and see how tight the slug fits in the barrel. If it's tight, it will have better accuracy than if it's loose.
Dad shot slug tournaments years ago. His smooth barrel Browning Auto-5 will shoot 1 inch center to center with Remington Slugger 1 ounce at 75 yards. That barrel outshoots a Hastings rifled barrel with sabot slugs. Like other people said, it's not "rifle like" accuracy, but a shotgun with the correct fit slugs will outshoot most people. For the record, I get the best accuracy with Federal Truball. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 6:15:05 PM EDT
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Rather than cut and fit, I'd just go shoot a bunch of different varieties.
Fortunately for me, my Nova likes the cheap Remington sluggers the best. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 6:26:11 PM EDT
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Yes. Rifled slug is kind of a gimmick. The rifling does nothing for its ballistics. Think of it as a badminton birdie/shuttlecock where the weight is in the front. Rifle sights vs a bead will help your accuracy with slugs. Some guns have a combo rifled bbl which allows sabot slugs, which are more accurate than Foster/rifled slugs. The "rifling" is just a set of ribs that swage down when shot through a choke. Improved Cylinder chokes usually achieve the best accuracy. The slugs themselves are shaped like a shuttlecock (weight forward, drag at rear) to provide stability. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 6:26:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/4/2015 6:30:24 PM EDT
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The "rifling" is just a set of ribs that swage down when shot through a choke. Improved Cylinder chokes usually achieve the best accuracy. The slugs themselves are shaped like a shuttlecock (weight forward, drag at rear) to provide stability. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes. Rifled slug is kind of a gimmick. The rifling does nothing for its ballistics. Think of it as a badminton birdie/shuttlecock where the weight is in the front. Rifle sights vs a bead will help your accuracy with slugs. Some guns have a combo rifled bbl which allows sabot slugs, which are more accurate than Foster/rifled slugs. The "rifling" is just a set of ribs that swage down when shot through a choke. Improved Cylinder chokes usually achieve the best accuracy. The slugs themselves are shaped like a shuttlecock (weight forward, drag at rear) to provide stability. This. Does nothing for accuracy. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 6:33:17 PM EDT
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I already have the shotgun, I just wanted to shoot some slugs for fun and wanted to check first that they wouldn't blow my barrel. Get a rifled/sighted 20" barrel. Mine is good for hitting clay pigeons at about 75 yds. You can find mossy made used ones on fleabay for around $85. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 12:31:45 PM EDT
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I already have the shotgun, I just wanted to shoot some slugs for fun and wanted to check first that they wouldn't blow my barrel. we're in slug / rifling opinion mode now nothing can stop it |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 12:33:02 PM EDT
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we're in slug / rifling opinion mode now nothing can stop it Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I already have the shotgun, I just wanted to shoot some slugs for fun and wanted to check first that they wouldn't blow my barrel. we're in slug / rifling opinion mode now nothing can stop it Ha, it is interesting reading nonetheless. You always learn something new. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 12:35:22 PM EDT
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Yes. Rifled slug is kind of a gimmick. The rifling does nothing for its ballistics. Think of it as a badminton birdie/shuttlecock where the weight is in the front. Rifle sights vs a bead will help your accuracy with slugs. Some guns have a combo rifled bbl which allows sabot slugs, which are more accurate than Foster/rifled slugs. The rifling on the slug is there to make the slug able to squeeze through any reasonable choke the gun might have without damaging the gun. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 12:35:26 PM EDT
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Rem used to sell a smooth 20" deer barrel for the rem 870, it came with a rifled choke for slugs and imp cyl for buckshot
I'm looking for it, I don't see it for sale anywhere maybe it cut into rifled barrel sales? |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 12:38:47 PM EDT
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The rifling is there to make the slug able to squeeze through any reasonable choke the gun might have without damaging the gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes. Rifled slug is kind of a gimmick. The rifling does nothing for its ballistics. Think of it as a badminton birdie/shuttlecock where the weight is in the front. Rifle sights vs a bead will help your accuracy with slugs. Some guns have a combo rifled bbl which allows sabot slugs, which are more accurate than Foster/rifled slugs. The rifling is there to make the slug able to squeeze through any reasonable choke the gun might have without damaging the gun. the slugs that look like a giant air rifle pellet are not the rifled type they are shaped like an air rifle pellet because that's the ideal aerodynamic shape the rifled slugs are more like a little cup or barrel the little vanes on the rifled slug are supposed to grab the air and make the slug spin a little |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 12:41:17 PM EDT
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the slugs that look like a giant air rifle pellet are not the rifled type they are shaped like an air rifle pellet because that's the ideal aerodynamic shape the rifled slugs are more like a little cup or barrel Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes. Rifled slug is kind of a gimmick. The rifling does nothing for its ballistics. Think of it as a badminton birdie/shuttlecock where the weight is in the front. Rifle sights vs a bead will help your accuracy with slugs. Some guns have a combo rifled bbl which allows sabot slugs, which are more accurate than Foster/rifled slugs. The rifling is there to make the slug able to squeeze through any reasonable choke the gun might have without damaging the gun. the slugs that look like a giant air rifle pellet are not the rifled type they are shaped like an air rifle pellet because that's the ideal aerodynamic shape the rifled slugs are more like a little cup or barrel The post I quoted was about rifled slugs. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 12:44:14 PM EDT
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I have a weaver detachable scope mount on my wingmaster and a 1-4x leupold shotgun scope you probably don't really need it but WTF I had $400 and nothing to spend it on works awesome I got leupold QD rings because the weaver rings are just a little too chi-com for a leupold scope |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 12:46:20 PM EDT
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My 18" 870 with ghost ring sights is plenty accurate at 100 yards with Remington Sluggers What sort of groups do you get at that distance? |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 12:53:00 PM EDT
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Not speaking for the above but I get about 6" groups at 100 yds with slugsters from a ksg with eotec
Eta good enough is a relative term kill a deer , yep |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 1:24:50 PM EDT
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Rem used to sell a smooth 20" deer barrel for the rem 870, it came with a rifled choke for slugs and imp cyl for buckshot I'm looking for it, I don't see it for sale anywhere maybe it cut into rifled barrel sales? I have one for my 1187, certified deathray with Brennekkes and good patterns with a superfull turkey choke. Target shot at 100yds 
Slug rattles down 21" of smoothbore, slams into 4" of rifling and creates magic. It is also a one holer at 50yds with Fosters but groups open way up at 75, garbage at 100 |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 1:31:28 PM EDT
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I have been thinking of switching to a Rifled Sabot barrel for years but always grab my inline, until last year I shot my M1 with a smooth 18.5" barrel with true balls at 100yds. I was getting 2" 3shoot groups. I am going to retest this month to confirm. I know with the right sabot 200yd shoots are possible with a rifled barrel buddy took a 10 point buck last year at 147yds using SSTs sabots.
My Rem Slugs will be in the 8" + range at 100yds. Knights inline around 1-2" |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 2:01:11 PM EDT
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I'd try to find an older Remington 870 Wingmaster Deer, preferably one marked Magnum for 3" shells. As long as the barrel has a 3" chamber you might be able to get away with 3" out of a 2.75 receiver. Only difference is the ejector. I had an old police wingmaster with a 3" chamber and non magnum receiver, worked just fine with 3". |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 2:58:25 PM EDT
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I already have the shotgun, I just wanted to shoot some slugs for fun and wanted to check first that they wouldn't blow my barrel. For the record, I have NEVER found shooting slugs out of a shotgun was fun. It hurts...ALOT as they kick like the proverbial mule. Sighting in (or actually confirming zero hasn't changed since last year) at deer camp is always funny, as guys wince and moan upon shooting whilst everyone else busts their balls for being a wuss. Luckily my smoothbore 870 takes only 1 shot to confirm zero. My gun shoots great with plain old Winchester 2 3/4 rifles slugs. They absolutely whap the snot out of deer too. I have a problem shooting 3" magnums out of mine as the brass expands too much and makes ejection difficult. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 4:31:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Rifled slug is kind of a gimmick. The rifling does nothing for its ballistics. Think of it as a badminton birdie/shuttlecock where the weight is in the front. Rifle sights vs a bead will help your accuracy with slugs. Some guns have a combo rifled bbl which allows sabot slugs, which are more accurate than Foster/rifled slugs. I prefer the term Foster slug. But for the OP, yes, the 'rifled slug' aka Foster Slug is what people have been firing through their duck and pheasant guns for years when they are out hunting deer. It's not as accurate as a rifle, it's not as accurate as a rifled shotgun firing sabots, but it is accurate enough for deer hunting. You should have no problem hitting a 3 inch diameter vitals spot at 50 yards providing you the shooter can stay steady.
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Posted: 11/5/2015 9:53:25 PM EDT
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What sort of groups do you get at that distance? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My 18" 870 with ghost ring sights is plenty accurate at 100 yards with Remington Sluggers What sort of groups do you get at that distance? 3" or so |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:03:04 PM EDT
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Yes but I wouldn't get a Remington 870 Express right now. They are not the same as the 870s or the 870 Express of the last Century. I don't know for sure what happened to Remington but I have seen some serious Remington crap on the range in the last few years. |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 10:24:37 PM EDT
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Slugs that you should only shoot out of a rifled barrel will say it on the box like accutips. That barrel will work with rifled slugs, but you'll spend a paycheck figuring out which on shoots well, and that is a loose bag depending on what you define well as. A second barrel would be better, a dedicated slug gun would be best. It's a shame H&R stopped producing their single shot because it was a steal for it's accuracy.
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