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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:43:55 AM EDT
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But I'm only a block away from my house. I only drove to get a pack of cigarettes.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:45:28 AM EDT
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Quoted: Bernardo Tignor, 56, pulled a gun on the Opelika police officer who shot and killed him Saturday night, Police Chief John McEachern said today. Despite McEachern's assertion the shooting was justified, Tignor's brother told the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer the family thinks the shooting was not necessary. Tignor's younger brother, Barnard, said the family has hired attorney Fred Gray and believe the officer, Jared Greer, could have waited for backup. "He got the best of the officer. ... They were involved in a fight, He actually beat the officer," Barnard Tignor said of his brother. "We are pursuing this issue with the lawyers," he said. McEachern, in a statement today, laid out what he says happened in the moments leading up to the shooting: At about 11:50 p.m., Greer, a 3 1/2 year veteran of the department, followed a vehicle from Williamson Avenue onto Marvyn Parkway and then onto Crawford Road. Greer attempted to stop the vehicle for a traffic offense -- the statement does not state the exact offense -- but it continued on until stopping at a private drive just off Comanchee Drive. The driver of the vehicle, later identified as Bernardo Tignor, attempted to enter a residence, but was detained by Greer. "Tignor refused to comply with the officer's commands, and began to resist the attempts by the officer to place him under arrest," the statement read. "At some point during the struggle, Mr. Tignor brandished a small caliber pistol. Officer Greer, fearing for his safety, drew his department issued weapon and fired multiple rounds at Mr. Tignor. McEachern told reporters Tignor has a record of approximately 20 arrests dating back to 1976 for offenses includeing assault, domestic violence, theft, car theft, fraud, writing bad checks, DUIs and menacing. http://www.al.com/news/montgomery/index.ssf/2015/11/opelika_police_shooting.html#incart_river_home Ahhh, the old I made it home, sprint to the door and you can't arrest me deal. I'm speechless... |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:47:32 AM EDT
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Barnard Tignor is a fucking idiot, much like his brother used to be.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:50:19 AM EDT
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Bernard and Bernardo. Very creative partents
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:52:00 AM EDT
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So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"?
Hope that attorney got a retainer. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:52:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:54:13 AM EDT
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If you get home . The cops have to let you go.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:56:29 AM EDT
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So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"?
Hope that attorney got a retainer. Yea, so more cops could have had target practice on his ass. Mighty thoughtful of them. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:57:02 AM EDT
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If you get home . The cops have to let you go. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This Also, shouting "base" or "safe" has gotten me out of many arrests |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:57:34 AM EDT
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Sounds like the world is now inhabited by one less moron. Unfortunately, it sounds like his brother Barnyard is more than making up for the loss. Hope the department/city countersue for legal fees.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:58:03 AM EDT
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That guy is an idiot, I don't know what else COC to say.
And I absolutely love the people who think if they get home they won't go to jail. Or the ones who think if they just get to their house then the police can't impound their car. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:59:54 AM EDT
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"I am NOT DUI...I made it home and I'm drunk on my own property... and there's nothing illegal about that...hic!"
(Yeah, I actually heard that one night...) |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:01:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"? Hope that attorney got a retainer. The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:04:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you get home . The cops have to let you go. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:04:30 AM EDT
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The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"?
Hope that attorney got a retainer. The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. LOL good shoot. Too bad the brother didn't get hit by the same bullet. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:04:38 AM EDT
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Good shoot and I hope the officer gets all the backing he deserves.
Hopefully this will end as it should and the officer (and his family) will be fine. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:06:34 AM EDT
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So, when do we get to roast marshmallows after the BLM burns Opelika?
I'm relatively close, but I'm guessing we should show up after Sunday brunch. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:07:36 AM EDT
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This Also, shouting "base" or "safe" has gotten me out of many arrests Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you get home . The cops have to let you go. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This Also, shouting "base" or "safe" has gotten me out of many arrests I find that shouting "I KNOW MY RITES" and "YOU CAN'T DO THAT" is also quite effective. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:07:42 AM EDT
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Cha Ching!
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:09:35 AM EDT
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The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"?
Hope that attorney got a retainer. The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Not quite. The new recommended procedure upon facing an armed suspect is to wrap your head with a towel so that you cannot see him, and hope he has the wits of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:13:30 AM EDT
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"He got the best of the officer. ... They were involved in a fight, He actually beat the officer," Barnard Tignor said of his brother. "We are pursuing this issue with the lawyers," he said. Apparently idiot brother didn't get the memo. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:13:57 AM EDT
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Not quite. The new recommended procedure upon facing an armed suspect is to wrap your head with a towel so that you cannot see him, and hope he has the wits of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"?
Hope that attorney got a retainer. The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Not quite. The new recommended procedure upon facing an armed suspect is to wrap your head with a towel so that you cannot see him, and hope he has the wits of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. Yep, we just added this to our policy. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:16:16 AM EDT
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That seems pretty cut and dry to me.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:17:18 AM EDT
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Guy sounds like a real winner.
ZFG |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:18:13 AM EDT
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Base!
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:19:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:19:31 AM EDT
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"He got the best of the officer. ... They were involved in a fight, He actually beat the officer," Barnard Tignor said of his brother.
This is, uh, not a statement I would make to the press if you're trying to blame the officer. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:19:54 AM EDT
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Not quite. The new recommended procedure upon facing an armed suspect is to wrap your head with a towel so that you cannot see him, and hope he has the wits of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"?
Hope that attorney got a retainer. The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Not quite. The new recommended procedure upon facing an armed suspect is to wrap your head with a towel so that you cannot see him, and hope he has the wits of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. Good reference for so early in the day. 
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:21:22 AM EDT
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The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So they're not even arguing any of the facts, just that the LEO "could have waited for backup"?
Hope that attorney got a retainer. The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Correct. The bad guy has to shoot first. At least that's what I've been told by several bad guys. Simply pointing a gun at a police officer and saying you're going to kill him is "Freedom of Speech." |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:24:22 AM EDT
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Correct. The bad guy has to shoot first. At least that's what I've been told by several bad guys. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Correct. The bad guy has to shoot first. At least that's what I've been told by several bad guys. I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:24:43 AM EDT
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The family will sue. They will probably lose (you never know with juries) but it will still cost the city a crapload of money. I wonder what they thought a backup officer could do?
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:25:49 AM EDT
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What lawyer was freaking dumb enough to take that case? No, seriously. I want to know so I never end up with him representing me for anything. Fucking idiot.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:28:44 AM EDT
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The family will sue. They will probably lose (you never know with juries) but it will still cost the city a crapload of money. I wonder what they thought a backup officer could do? The lawyers who represent these bullshit cases need to be made to start paying the legal fees for the defense when they lose. Maybe if they were held responsible there wouldn't even be these monumentally stupid cases in the first place. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:30:16 AM EDT
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Bernard and Bernardo. Very creative partents You mean Bernadette and Bernardino? |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:31:13 AM EDT
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Tignor's younger brother, Barnard, said the family has hired attorney Fred Gray and believe the officer, Jared Greer, could have waited for backup. "He got the best of the officer. ... They were involved in a fight, He actually beat the officer," Barnard Tignor said of his brother. "We are pursuing this issue with the lawyers," he said |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:37:05 AM EDT
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I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Correct. The bad guy has to shoot first. At least that's what I've been told by several bad guys. I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. Which contradicts GD's belief that all cops are Barney Fifes who know nothing about guns, never train, and can't hit the broadside of a barn. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:40:16 AM EDT
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Good reference for so early in the day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not quite. The new recommended procedure upon facing an armed suspect is to wrap your head with a towel so that you cannot see him, and hope he has the wits of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. Good reference for so early in the day. Needed a Babblefish to understand that one. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:40:30 AM EDT
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Two brothers named Barnard and Bernardo? What imaginative parents.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:43:18 AM EDT
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In what universe does the family think the dead suspect was justified in any of that?
Good riddance to bad trash. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:43:40 AM EDT
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If that's the whole story they are gonna have trouble finding an attorney dumb enough to take their "case". Good shoot.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:45:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If that's the whole story they are gonna have trouble finding an attorney dumb enough to take their "case". Good shoot. They found one.... ...the family has hired attorney Fred Gray... |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:47:19 AM EDT
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I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Correct. The bad guy has to shoot first. At least that's what I've been told by several bad guys. I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. Thats as bad as "he could have shot him in the leg" or the " shoot the gun out of his hand" idiot family members that often make statements in these stories. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:48:12 AM EDT
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Thats as bad as "he could have shot him in the leg" or the " shoot the gun out of his hand" idiot family members that often make statements in these stories. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Correct. The bad guy has to shoot first. At least that's what I've been told by several bad guys. I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. Thats as bad as "he could have shot him in the leg" or the " shoot the gun out of his hand" idiot family members that often make statements in these stories. You mean Ben Carson? |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:48:26 AM EDT
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If you get home . The cops have to let you go. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yeah.... NO. We dont. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:48:33 AM EDT
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If that's the whole story they are gonna have trouble finding an attorney dumb enough to take their "case". Good shoot. They've already found him, or he found them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Gray_(attorney) I'm pretty sure that's the same guy. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:49:10 AM EDT
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They found one.... ...the family has hired attorney Fred Gray... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If that's the whole story they are gonna have trouble finding an attorney dumb enough to take their "case". Good shoot. They found one.... ...the family has hired attorney Fred Gray... I wonder if they've started shopping for legal representation yet. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:50:00 AM EDT
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They found one.... ...the family has hired attorney Fred Gray... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If that's the whole story they are gonna have trouble finding an attorney dumb enough to take their "case". Good shoot. They found one.... ...the family has hired attorney Fred Gray... Yep I skimmed right over that fact. Thanks, Fred "dumbass" Gray, Esquire is on the case. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:50:40 AM EDT
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One does not simply "beat" an officer and "win".
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:52:43 AM EDT
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I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The new reality with the agitator in chief in the White House. Pulling a gun on a LE is not justification, they could have just ignored him. Correct. The bad guy has to shoot first. At least that's what I've been told by several bad guys. I've seen that ROE for LEOs suggested by people here in GD. And yet when Han is edited to NOT shoot first, those same individuals are screaming their heads off at Lucas, go figure. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:52:51 AM EDT
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"He got the best of the officer. ... They were involved in a fight, He actually beat the officer," Barnard Tignor said of his brother.
Well then, it looks like Bernardo won. Let's go to the replay booth. Yep, 1st and 10 for Bernardo. Bernardo? You here? |
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