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Posted: 6/27/2015 4:27:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/27/2015 4:29:58 PM EDT
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i know its a kel tec but that thing is stupid cool,,, i want one
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Posted: 6/27/2015 4:41:18 PM EDT
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Kel tec has alot of really cool guns, i can just never find any of them.
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Posted: 6/27/2015 4:44:58 PM EDT
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Kel tec has alot of really cool guns, i can just never find any of them. ...and here's a plus one truth |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 4:47:23 PM EDT
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how is the reliability of the KSG?
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Posted: 6/27/2015 4:50:00 PM EDT
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It's cool but for an offbeat shotgun I'd rather this little guy:
http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/2629 |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 4:50:50 PM EDT
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how is the reliability of the KSG? Some folks here will say otherwise, but I've had no issues with jams. Occasionally I may not rack the slide back hard enough which won't chamber a new round, but that is rare. |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 4:52:09 PM EDT
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Should have been a semi auto.
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Posted: 6/27/2015 4:59:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kel tec has alot of really cool guns, i can just never find any of them.  |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 5:27:16 PM EDT
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They were all over the gunshow today for $799. But since my luck with Kel-Tec is about on par with my luck with Taurus, I passed them by. But I saw at least 5 of them, new in the box, and this is a fairly small gunshow.
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Posted: 6/27/2015 5:28:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: how is the reliability of the KSG? Videos are all over youtube of them failing to feed. |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 5:33:02 PM EDT
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It's cool but for an offbeat shotgun I'd rather this little guy: http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/2629 seriously. if only they made a non walnut version to keep the price reasonable... |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 5:34:19 PM EDT
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Should have been a semi auto. With detachable mag. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 5:36:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With detachable mag. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Should have been a semi auto. With detachable mag. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile So basically a Saiga 12? |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 5:41:02 PM EDT
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They were all over the gunshow today for $799. But since my luck with Kel-Tec is about on par with my luck with Taurus, I passed them by. But I saw at least 5 of them, new in the box, and this is a fairly small gunshow. That's a good price, compared to what they were first going for, no? They haven't fixed the reliability issues? |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 6:10:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a good price, compared to what they were first going for, no? They haven't fixed the reliability issues? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They were all over the gunshow today for $799. But since my luck with Kel-Tec is about on par with my luck with Taurus, I passed them by. But I saw at least 5 of them, new in the box, and this is a fairly small gunshow. That's a good price, compared to what they were first going for, no? They haven't fixed the reliability issues?  |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 6:17:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, they've fixed the issues. I have a Gen 2 and it works great. http://i.imgur.com/eKoH0eJ.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: They were all over the gunshow today for $799. But since my luck with Kel-Tec is about on par with my luck with Taurus, I passed them by. But I saw at least 5 of them, new in the box, and this is a fairly small gunshow. That's a good price, compared to what they were first going for, no? They haven't fixed the reliability issues? http://i.imgur.com/eKoH0eJ.jpg ... are you bringing that hardware when you move to Arizona? |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 6:26:07 PM EDT
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AZ isn't happening right now.... got promoted and sent back to Miami. But I am visiting AZ soon enough and will be bringing toys.
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Posted: 6/27/2015 6:31:27 PM EDT
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So basically a Saiga 12? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Should have been a semi auto. With detachable mag. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile So basically a Saiga 12? No. The Saiga is an ergonomic nightmare, not tremendously reliable with varied ammunition and uses the outdated 'hook and swoop' magazine insertion. |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 6:40:27 PM EDT
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Kel tec has alot of really cool guns, i can just never find any of them. Check out your local Friends of NRA. KelTec is a great supporter and the Friends can often raffle or auction off guns that you can't get at the shop. Sometimes with special engraving too! Find a Friends of NRA group near you |
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Posted: 6/27/2015 11:19:33 PM EDT
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Yes, they've fixed the issues. I have a Gen 2 and it works great. http://i.imgur.com/eKoH0eJ.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They were all over the gunshow today for $799. But since my luck with Kel-Tec is about on par with my luck with Taurus, I passed them by. But I saw at least 5 of them, new in the box, and this is a fairly small gunshow. That's a good price, compared to what they were first going for, no? They haven't fixed the reliability issues? http://i.imgur.com/eKoH0eJ.jpg
Darn, missing something. 
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:27:01 PM EDT
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Ran 25 rounds of slugs through it today. No problems.
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:28:55 PM EDT
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Well, Biden says "Get a shotgun". I reckon that'll do.
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:29:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some folks here will say otherwise, but I've had no issues with jams. Occasionally I may not rack the slide back hard enough which won't chamber a new round, but that is rare. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: how is the reliability of the KSG? Some folks here will say otherwise, but I've had no issues with jams. Occasionally I may not rack the slide back hard enough which won't chamber a new round, but that is rare. +1, they are damn fun to play with, kicking son-o-bitch with heavy shells  |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:31:40 PM EDT
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Haven't had any problems with my Gen 2.
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Posted: 6/28/2015 10:33:59 PM EDT
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how is the reliability of the KSG? I've sold a bunch of them and the only one that's had a problem was one that really needed to be cleaned. After that it worked great. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:58:15 AM EDT
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I really want one of these bad. It will probably happen soon.
I haven't decided if I want one in black or FDE. I have a small fetish for FDE guns, but classic black is cool too. The Aguila minishells are what sold me. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:17:39 AM EDT
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Yes, they've fixed the issues. I have a Gen 2 and it works great. http://i.imgur.com/eKoH0eJ.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They were all over the gunshow today for $799. But since my luck with Kel-Tec is about on par with my luck with Taurus, I passed them by. But I saw at least 5 of them, new in the box, and this is a fairly small gunshow. That's a good price, compared to what they were first going for, no? They haven't fixed the reliability issues? http://i.imgur.com/eKoH0eJ.jpg You really like plastic weapons don't you? |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:20:29 AM EDT
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I've never seen or fired one that worked right.
And the video of that dude loosing his hand, though. 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:22:51 AM EDT
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I've never seen or fired one that worked right. And the video of that dude loosing his hand, though. Can you expand on that? How did they malfunction? What generation were they? Video? There is a video of the incident? |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:33:01 AM EDT
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You really like plastic weapons don't you? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They were all over the gunshow today for $799. But since my luck with Kel-Tec is about on par with my luck with Taurus, I passed them by. But I saw at least 5 of them, new in the box, and this is a fairly small gunshow. That's a good price, compared to what they were first going for, no? They haven't fixed the reliability issues? http://i.imgur.com/eKoH0eJ.jpg You really like plastic weapons don't you? I can't speak for him, but I prefer plastic/aluminum/steel to wood/steel guns. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:41:22 AM EDT
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Can you expand on that? How did they malfunction? What generation were they? Video? There is a video of the incident? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've never seen or fired one that worked right. And the video of that dude loosing his hand, though. Can you expand on that? How did they malfunction? What generation were they? Video? There is a video of the incident? I have seen a few upset owners at the job trying to clear malfunctions. Might have been self induced though, but I have too many special folks to watch at any given time. 
The one I shot had quite a few failures to eject. It just also felt Really cheap. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 4:47:52 AM EDT
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I have seen a few upset owners at the job trying to clear malfunctions. Might have been self induced though, but I have too many special folks to watch at any given time.
The one I shot had quite a few failures to eject. It just also felt Really cheap. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've never seen or fired one that worked right. And the video of that dude loosing his hand, though. Can you expand on that? How did they malfunction? What generation were they? Video? There is a video of the incident? I have seen a few upset owners at the job trying to clear malfunctions. Might have been self induced though, but I have too many special folks to watch at any given time.
The one I shot had quite a few failures to eject. It just also felt Really cheap. I am excited to get my hands on one and see this phenomenon for myself. It seems like the shells could be pushed back into their respective holes to make way. I could be very wrong though. My only experience with them was finger fucking one at the gun store a couple of weeks ago. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:24:04 AM EDT
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No. The Saiga is an ergonomic nightmare, not tremendously reliable with varied ammunition and uses the outdated 'hook and swoop' magazine insertion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Should have been a semi auto. With detachable mag. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile So basically a Saiga 12? No. The Saiga is an ergonomic nightmare, not tremendously reliable with varied ammunition and uses the outdated 'hook and swoop' magazine insertion. I have never seen a semiautomatic shotgun malfunction more than the SaiGA 12.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:49:25 AM EDT
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So basically a Saiga 12? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Should have been a semi auto. With detachable mag. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile So basically a Saiga 12? Only the Saiga isn't a bullpup. You can convert it, although I did hear that the company making the conversion kits stopped production. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:03:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You really like plastic weapons don't you? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes, they've fixed the issues. I have a Gen 2 and it works great. http://i.imgur.com/eKoH0eJ.jpg You really like plastic weapons don't you? I also like metal.  But Polymer beats that shit by a mile.  |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 7:04:53 AM EDT
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I've had mine for a while. How do I tell if it's Gen 2 or not? Never had a problem with it.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 4:48:01 AM EDT
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Gen 1
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Posted: 6/30/2015 1:36:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/30/2015 1:41:21 PM EDT
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I am undecided. I would like to shoot one.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 1:47:02 PM EDT
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Kel tec has alot of really cool guns, i can just never find any of them. I've got an RFB, and there is a KSG sitting at my favorite SOT, and another one at the shop near my house. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 1:51:12 PM EDT
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I am undecided. I would like to shoot one. Maybe I'm just a little bitch but I found it very unpleasant and painful. 
Still kind of want one though I need to shoot one again to remind myself that I really don't.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 1:52:06 PM EDT
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Just curious, but what has KT done for those who bought the gen 1 KSG and experienced failure to feed problems?
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Posted: 6/30/2015 1:54:01 PM EDT
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Some folks here will say otherwise, but I've had no issues with jams. Occasionally I may not rack the slide back hard enough which won't chamber a new round, but that is rare. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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how is the reliability of the KSG? Some folks here will say otherwise, but I've had no issues with jams. Occasionally I may not rack the slide back hard enough which won't chamber a new round, but that is rare. Same with mine. Only issues I've had were directly traced back to me. It is a 2nd generation. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 1:55:20 PM EDT
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With detachable mag. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Should have been a semi auto. With detachable mag. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That shoots 5.56.... then we'd be getting somewhere. 
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Posted: 6/30/2015 1:56:24 PM EDT
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I haven't shot one, but I've handled both the KSG and the UTAS-15. I definitely like the way the KSG feels, the UTAS feels way too plasticy.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 1:57:44 PM EDT
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Some folks here will say otherwise, but I've had no issues with jams. Occasionally I may not rack the slide back hard enough which won't chamber a new round, but that is rare. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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how is the reliability of the KSG? Some folks here will say otherwise, but I've had no issues with jams. Occasionally I may not rack the slide back hard enough which won't chamber a new round, but that is rare. I bet it still scares the pants off of home invaders. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 1:58:43 PM EDT
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That shoots 5.56.... then we'd be getting somewhere.
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Should have been a semi auto. With detachable mag. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That shoots 5.56.... then we'd be getting somewhere.
You mean like the RDB? |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 4:06:35 PM EDT
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Maybe I'm just a little bitch but I found it very unpleasant and painful.
Still kind of want one though I need to shoot one again to remind myself that I really don't.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am undecided. I would like to shoot one. Maybe I'm just a little bitch but I found it very unpleasant and painful.
Still kind of want one though I need to shoot one again to remind myself that I really don't.I have yet to shoot one, but it couldn't be as bad as my can cannon.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 4:08:34 PM EDT
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You mean like the RDB? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Should have been a semi auto. With detachable mag. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile That shoots 5.56.... then we'd be getting somewhere.
You mean like the RDB? You're definitely moving in the right direction.
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Posted: 6/30/2015 4:15:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some folks here will say otherwise, but I've had no issues with jams. Occasionally I may not rack the slide back hard enough which won't chamber a new round, but that is rare. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: how is the reliability of the KSG? Some folks here will say otherwise, but I've had no issues with jams. Occasionally I may not rack the slide back hard enough which won't chamber a new round, but that is rare. after that its been fine but I still wouldn't use it for anything important |
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