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Posted: 5/1/2015 11:23:39 PM EDT
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I am trying to decide if it is worth putting an rmr and suppressor sights on my EDC g19. Looks like a slide milling is 250 plus the cost of a trijicon rmr. This is my target shooting, pistol class, EDC and home defense gun. Why would one do this and does it have real world value? Any disadvantages? Also what holster would you recommend for a g19 with an RMR? Thank you, ATTom |
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You got a Glock because it's simple and reliable, right? Why screw with that equation by adding a piece of electronic equipment to a self-defense weapon?
Murphy shows up on his own, no need to invite him in. |
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You got a Glock because it's simple and reliable, right? Why screw with that equation by adding a piece of electronic equipment to a self-defense weapon? Murphy shows up on his own, no need to invite him in. View Quote This is my thoughts as well. Replace the plastic sights with good night sights if you want an upgrade. |
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Hi, I am trying to decide if it is worth putting an rmr and suppressor sights on my EDC g19. Looks like a slide milling is 250 plus the cost of a trijicon rmr. This is my target shooting, pistol class, EDC and home defense gun. Why would one do this and does it have real world value? Any disadvantages? Also what holster would you recommend for a g19 with an RMR? Thank you, ATTom View Quote I owned an rmr for a total of 2 days. The thing that I didn't like was the diode was exposed. So lint, dust dirt could block it and cause there to be no dot. |
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Is it a competition gun or a defense gun??
The two are not as similar as the gamers would have you believe. On a defensive gun I would go with plain sights. |
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I carried mine ONCE for shits and giggles and then replaced it with my g19 with trigicon sights.
No point of carrying one set up like that. |
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Why not: More crap to go wrong, more crap to hang up on, more weight, more cost, different holsters...shall I go on?
I like the KISS principle for real world weapons. |
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In a CCW shooting, you probably are close enough to not need the sights, much less the dot.
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You got a Glock because it's simple and reliable, right? Why screw with that equation by adding a piece of electronic equipment to a self-defense weapon? Murphy shows up on his own, no need to invite him in. View Quote They do have tritium/fiber optic ones you know. OP, I'd highly recommend against it. When you mill your slide, you're cutting through the Tennifer/nitriding hardness/corrosion resistance treatment layer and exposing soft steel. And by soft, I mean gouge it with a punch soft. It'll also rust much easier. |
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Never felt a need for a RMR on my 19 for carry work. Have run them on range toys/gun games.
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I have one on my G22 that I shoot for funsies. Did the milling myself, it was a fun project.
My G19, carry gun, does not have one. |
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Why carry a compact handgun then add a lot of shit to it so that its not that damn compact anymore?
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I have a M&P Core with a RMR on it.
I have carried it a handful of times, no real difference aside from an extra lump sticking out waiting to smash into things when you forget that it sticks out further. So I don't carry it often. ETA... Also all that lint that finds it way into your holster and all over your gun... it gets all over the lens as well. |
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Waiting on a g19 mos to put an rmr on. Not to carry, but as a range toy. I wouldn't carry with an optic, more to go wrong in an already hectic situation like others have said.
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Waiting on a g19 mos to put an rmr on. Not to carry, but as a range toy. I wouldn't carry with an optic, more to go wrong in an already hectic situation like others have said. View Quote Are thy making the compact and subcompacts MOS? I thought it was just the full size longslides. |
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You got a Glock because it's simple and reliable, right? Why screw with that equation by adding a piece of electronic equipment to a self-defense weapon? Murphy shows up on his own, no need to invite him in. View Quote That sounds like the repeating theme of resistance to new tech and methods. Bet the same was said about electronic sights on rifles used in combat. |
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I see that I have not made it here before the technophobic crowd.
It reminds me of fuds, who say ARs have no place in the civilian world. "Them new-fangled things! Give me a good old bolt action." |
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I've been carrying a G19 with RMR IWB for a few years.
Sample of one, but I havent seen the potential problems mentioned by many here. Milled area has softer metal, sure, but it's covered by the sight so no biggie. I saw some surface rust on the first battery change but have since painted the area and put a seal plate, no problem. Sticks out a bit, not enough to be a bother for me. Durability has been fine. My Glock is a face ejector and the RMR does double purpose as a shell deflector too. Keeps on ticking. Dried sweat, lint, etc can get to the lens. Never had anything block diode or lens enough to not be able to aim and fire. That being said, its a significant investment and I honestly could go either way, it's not a necesity. Try and see if it works for your needs. |
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You got a Glock because it's simple and reliable, right? Why screw with that equation by adding a piece of electronic equipment to a self-defense weapon? Murphy shows up on his own, no need to invite him in. View Quote Well put, and RDS don't have the same advantage on a pistol that they do on a long gun to me (I'm not a competitive shooter, not a serious one anyway). It's harder for me to pick up the dot in a small window than it is for me to pick up the front sight. YMMV. |
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Try it first...I personally think it sucks. I find night sights way faster plus they won't break. In case you didn't know, these micro sights break...a lot...on these guns due to the slide inertia. Not to mention red dots mounted in front of the rear sights are magnets for dirt/oil from the ejection port
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Well put, and RDS don't have the same advantage on a pistol that they do on a long gun to me (I'm not a competitive shooter, not a serious one anyway). It's harder for me to pick up the dot in a small window than it is for me to pick up the front sight. YMMV. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You got a Glock because it's simple and reliable, right? Why screw with that equation by adding a piece of electronic equipment to a self-defense weapon? Murphy shows up on his own, no need to invite him in. Well put, and RDS don't have the same advantage on a pistol that they do on a long gun to me (I'm not a competitive shooter, not a serious one anyway). It's harder for me to pick up the dot in a small window than it is for me to pick up the front sight. YMMV. This is also absolutely true. A dot close to your eye will be easy to pick up...a micro dot extended to the length of your arms is not. |
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On finding the dot...
A proper set up will have suppressor sights that co-witness. The iron sights, besides acting as a back-up, also serve as a reference point. They will guide you to the dot. As you get used to it, things get faster. I have tritium suppressor sights for back up. No, the sight picture does not become cluttered unless you want it to. You will focus on the dot or irons whichever you are looking for. |
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Quoted: Are thy making the compact and subcompacts MOS? I thought it was just the full size longslides. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Waiting on a g19 mos to put an rmr on. Not to carry, but as a range toy. I wouldn't carry with an optic, more to go wrong in an already hectic situation like others have said. Are thy making the compact and subcompacts MOS? I thought it was just the full size longslides. No idea. I hope they would but probably not. |
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With practice it gets faster. In defensive shooting situations you usually don't use the sights anyway. Where the sight excels is at intermediate distance. You focus on the target, not the sight. Allows for better target ID and to focus on if the target. Threats change from second to second. I only know of one LE department that's experimenting with the application.
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I've got one on my FNX Tactical. It's pretty much the most baddest ass thing ever. I've carried it like twice.
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That sounds like the repeating theme of resistance to new tech and methods. Bet the same was said about electronic sights on rifles used in combat. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You got a Glock because it's simple and reliable, right? Why screw with that equation by adding a piece of electronic equipment to a self-defense weapon? Murphy shows up on his own, no need to invite him in. That sounds like the repeating theme of resistance to new tech and methods. Bet the same was said about electronic sights on rifles used in combat. Not at all, I just have yet to see any device as foolproof as iron sights, and I'm all about KISS on defensive arms. I would shoot the hell out of a 1000-yard TrackingPoint rifle, though. |
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i mean if costa does it....
i'm half kidding.. it does seem like 'the cool' thing to do now... i would rather buy an aftermarket slide built for an RMR or get a gun that is made to take one rather than fuck up a slide... on the other hand, it is only a glock slide... |
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I have an RMR on my G19 and I love it.Accurate shot placement is fast and easy.
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I have Trijicon sights on my G31, but I've always been interested in an RMR or similar optic for it. I've just not had the money to mess with it.
As for it being slide-mounted... well, I'm not opposed to a frame-mounted optic on a 1911-style gun, either. I open carry my primary pistol and don't even own a compact or sub-compact, so the additional size/weight isn't really an issue. I figure I'll probably end up moving to some sort of optic on my carry gun once i have the funds available to compete regularly, and gain the skill necessary to make it worthwhile. |
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Interested in this as well. I planned on keeping my gen 2 g19 for EDC, but I want to get a gen3 done up with a serrated side, RMR with a custom frame. Did not plan to EDC it though
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I do quite often, I also used to C carry my open 3gun Glock - til I added a thumb rest.
Funny how guys say "I tried it once couldn't hit/find the dot" AND I suppose the first time you shot a pistol you could ? ? A pistol with a RDS is just like any other weapon, you need to PRACTICE, Yeah I realize that's not gonna happen with 98% of the HSLD guys here |
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I wouldn't do it simply for the investment. I've thought of dressing my Springfield champion with an rmr and suppressor, but she would stay at home dressed like that. Simply can't let my self sink that much money into a work gun. For a toy, sure why not.
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I have one on my FNX 45 Tac.
Its great unless its raining. cant see the dot. so theres that |
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