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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:37:08 PM EDT
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I've been through this recently, I finally stopped trying to sell the car on Craigslist, might ebay it or use Autotrader.
Too much Crazy to wade through or lowball offers. 
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:40:21 PM EDT
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I've been through this recently, I finally stopped trying to sell the car on Craigslist, might ebay it or use Autotrader. Too much Crazy to wade through or lowball offers. Lowball offers? They're just called offers. Why do you hate market economics? |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:41:29 PM EDT
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Sounds like Arabs.
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:42:34 PM EDT
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Lowball offers? They're just called offers. Why do you hate market economics? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been through this recently, I finally stopped trying to sell the car on Craigslist, might ebay it or use Autotrader. Too much Crazy to wade through or lowball offers. Lowball offers? They're just called offers. Why do you hate market economics? Ding. Thanks for playing. 
Look for a fight somewhere else. 
Asking 10 offer of 5? c'mon, that's a dick move, economics aside. Its not nice guys who call with offers like that either. 
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:43:51 PM EDT
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Lowball offers? They're just called offers. Why do you hate market economics? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been through this recently, I finally stopped trying to sell the car on Craigslist, might ebay it or use Autotrader. Too much Crazy to wade through or lowball offers. Lowball offers? They're just called offers. Why do you hate market economics? When you're asking $13K for a car worth just that and someone offers $5K they are just an a-hole wasting your time. The best part is when they add "that's all I have"... well, if that's all you have, go look for cars listed for $5K. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:44:29 PM EDT
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It's the Bazaar mindset
You must learn the art of the Haggle. The Haggle never stops... Haggle Haggle Haggle.... Stop being a cultural imperialist with your WASPy we made a deal and I expect you to stick to it entitlement mentality... BIGGER_HAMMER 
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:44:31 PM EDT
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Canadian dollars or real dollars?
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:44:56 PM EDT
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I won't do business with certain types of people because of exactly what you just described.
I once repaired a furnace for a man from some Middle East country, price was verbally agreed upon before the repair was made. As I was filling out the bill he starts lowballing the shit out of me saying he was only willing to pay so much... It got heated and I was ready to rip the new part out and walk I was so pissed. He finally paid up but I will never do business with that type of person again. Welcome to America and all that, but keep you shitty customs in your own country. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:45:00 PM EDT
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When you're asking $13K for a car worth just that and someone offers $5K they are just an a-hole wasting your time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been through this recently, I finally stopped trying to sell the car on Craigslist, might ebay it or use Autotrader. Too much Crazy to wade through or lowball offers. Lowball offers? They're just called offers. Why do you hate market economics? When you're asking $13K for a car worth just that and someone offers $5K they are just an a-hole wasting your time. You and I both know this, the guy who came after me is just stirring shit. 
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:46:16 PM EDT
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It's the Bazaar mindset You must learn the art of the Haggle. The Haggle never stops... Haggle Haggle Haggle.... Stop being a cultural imperialist with your WASPy we made a deal and I expect you to stick to it entitlement mentality... BIGGER_HAMMER I love to haggle. With respect. I won't try to 'steal' a persons item though. Making stupid offers just wastes people's time. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:47:56 PM EDT
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I am happy I have good neighbours, they all witnessed me telling this guy and his buddy to go fuck themselves and get the fuck off my property. You told them where you live? Whoops. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:48:03 PM EDT
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Lowball offers? They're just called offers. Why do you hate market economics? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been through this recently, I finally stopped trying to sell the car on Craigslist, might ebay it or use Autotrader. Too much Crazy to wade through or lowball offers. Lowball offers? They're just called offers. Why do you hate market economics? A lowball offer is one that is obviously miles below fair market value, and nothing more than a waste of time for the seller. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:48:41 PM EDT
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Sounds like Arabs. lebanese Christians, those motherfuckers are HARDASS NEGOTIATORS! |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:49:48 PM EDT
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A lowball offer is one that is obviously miles below fair market value, and nothing more than a waste of time for the seller. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been through this recently, I finally stopped trying to sell the car on Craigslist, might ebay it or use Autotrader. Too much Crazy to wade through or lowball offers. Lowball offers? They're just called offers. Why do you hate market economics? A lowball offer is one that is obviously miles below fair market value, and nothing more than a waste of time for the seller. I worked with a guy who preyed on people that he knew had just lost their jobs, were getting divorced etc, he would come in with cash and offer half value for a car. He made a lot of money doing that. 
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:49:57 PM EDT
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I won't do business with certain types of people because of exactly what you just described. I once repaired a furnace for a man from some Middle East country, price was verbally agreed upon before the repair was made. As I was filling out the bill he starts lowballing the shit out of me saying he was only willing to pay so much... It got heated and I was ready to rip the new part out and walk I was so pissed. He finally paid up but I will never do business with that type of person again. Welcome to America and all that, but keep you shitty customs in your own country. Some contractors have learned to add 20% right off the bat to certain groups of people, only because they know they will get haggled down to what they would have just charged originally. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:51:18 PM EDT
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I love to haggle. With respect. I won't try to 'steal' a persons item though. Making stupid offers just wastes people's time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's the Bazaar mindset You must learn the art of the Haggle. The Haggle never stops... Haggle Haggle Haggle.... Stop being a cultural imperialist with your WASPy we made a deal and I expect you to stick to it entitlement mentality... BIGGER_HAMMER I love to haggle. With respect. I won't try to 'steal' a persons item though. Making stupid offers just wastes people's time. No problem with Haggling to get the deal.. When the deal is struck, the Deal IS the Deal... Nothing further once we have shaken hands on it. Can't tell you how crazy it drives me to have "other cultures" make a deal, then demand more and more and more for less and less and less... BIGGER_HAMMER
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:51:36 PM EDT
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Sounds like a typical Cragslist deal. Guy probably thought he smelled desperate on you so he tried to lowball you. Good thing you stood your ground. I hate buyers like that
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:52:28 PM EDT
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No problem with Haggling to get the deal.. When the deal is struck, the Deal IS the Deal... Nothing further once we have shaken hands on it. Can't tell you how crazy it drives me to have "other cultures" make a deal, then demand more and more and more for less and less and less... BIGGER_HAMMER Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's the Bazaar mindset You must learn the art of the Haggle. The Haggle never stops... Haggle Haggle Haggle.... Stop being a cultural imperialist with your WASPy we made a deal and I expect you to stick to it entitlement mentality... BIGGER_HAMMER I love to haggle. With respect. I won't try to 'steal' a persons item though. Making stupid offers just wastes people's time. No problem with Haggling to get the deal.. When the deal is struck, the Deal IS the Deal... Nothing further once we have shaken hands on it. Can't tell you how crazy it drives me to have "other cultures" make a deal, then demand more and more and more for less and less and less... BIGGER_HAMMER I agree, a handshake and no new offers or backing out. Why do people shake on a deal and then weasel out of it?
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:54:50 PM EDT
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I would have told the guy "I'm going to sell it to the other guy for $1000 less because you're a fucking cunt."
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:54:52 PM EDT
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I'm putting two cars up for sale in the next 2 weeks. In my area, it can be a pain in the ass. You get a cross between dealers who low-ball you and city jerks who try to smooth-talk you and don't show up or waste your time. I watched a guy I know avoid this by high-balling his car and being a bit of a dick about it. He wound up getting a premium price and didn't have to suffer as many assholes. It just took a bit longer to sell it than usual, but he didn't care.
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Posted: 4/30/2015 9:59:29 PM EDT
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I hate buyers like that op. Hear of it all the time. Agree on a price, meet at the notary to do title transfer or,whatever, they pull out less money then agreed upon. Hope you won't want to pass up cash as you are already there.
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:05:56 PM EDT
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Try selling a Porsche. Everyone wants a concours car for a craigslist price.
 You handled it well and I would've immediately shut it down when he pulled that stunt too. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:09:35 PM EDT
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I had this kind of issue selling a quad. Guys says he will take it for asking price, another guy wants it 15 minutes later for asking price. Turned him down for first guy
Guy 1 asks if it can be delivered. I say no I have another buyer that will come and pick it up for asking price. He said ok he will come get it within a week. I let a week go by. Nothing. So I tell buyer 2. He takes it. Buyer 1 gets pissed when he calls back and realizes its gone. I say too bad first come first serve! Fuck em! |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:09:58 PM EDT
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I sold cars for a living for a long time.
I don't want to ever have to sell a car off my driveway  Speed |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:14:18 PM EDT
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OP, have that piece of shit banned for welching!
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:14:55 PM EDT
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I was once selling a car for $500 on CL it was an old gran Marquis I bought from a police auction a few years prior for $600. A bunch of guys respond within minutes, a guy who claimed to be local said he'd like to come see it. he was the first to respond, so I contacted him first.
Puerto Rican guy drives up in a fancy suit driving a Mercedes. I take him out for a test drive. He complains about this and that, to which I keep reminding him it's a $500 car. He asks me if I know how much it costs to register a car, and I respond around $250 I think. He asks me how firm I am on the price, so I say, I'll do $475. Guys throws a hissy, and says he'll pay me $250 cash. I said no, I'll do $475. Guy then says, "But it's going to cost me $250 to register it."
i look at him and said, "Registration fees don't go to me, they go to the state. You have to pay that no matter what car you buy. Dude, you're fucking haggling over a $500 car!" He said, "I have cash right now. No one else will be willing to give you this much for this." I said, "Fuck you. You wasted enough of my time. Head back." As we pull up, he gets out and says, "You'll never sell it for $500." As we step out, another guy is at my front door, and asks if the car is still available. He then hands me $500, and buys the car right in front of the suit wearing douchebag without even test driving it. It was a pretty sweet deal. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:17:57 PM EDT
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That's the Craigslist haggle...agree on something, show up with less hoping for desperation or you being uncomfortable.
Pull that on me, I will tell you to beat the bricks out of principle...even if your price is $1 less and I need the money. I hate that bullshit. It's a con, not a haggle. The haggle was BEFORE you show up with money, dick. Had a guy do that to me on a mower, pulls out $100 short of the agreed upon price. I told him no deal, beat it I'll sell it to the guy who just called me. He was like "Whoa, it's only $100, you're gonna lose this sale over $100??" I said "You're going to miss out on this mower over $100?" He didn't even understand his point was his enemy. Next guy bought it, btw. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:18:58 PM EDT
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I am happy I have good neighbours, they all witnessed me telling this guy and his buddy to go fuck themselves and get the fuck off my property. You told them where you live? Whoops. They were coming to pick up the car and the extra's that came with it. That's ok, I have all the info I need from the guy I need. DL, company truck and tag #. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:21:05 PM EDT
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I tell everyone I sell to on CL that the price is "X" amount of dollars and that if they aren't bringing that amount, don't bother showing up....its worked so far.
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:21:16 PM EDT
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why did you have them come to your house? now they know where you live.
and people doing that shit with less money is obviously on purpose. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:23:56 PM EDT
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why did you have them come to your house? now they know where you live. and people doing that shit with less money is obviously on purpose. Met at a coffee shop down the street last night (daylight). Once everything was agreed upon I gave him my address to pick up the car and the extra bumper, wheels and snow tires. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:23:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the Craigslist haggle...agree on something, show up with less hoping for desperation or you being uncomfortable. Pull that on me, I will tell you to beat the bricks out of principle...even if your price is $1 less and I need the money. I hate that bullshit. It's a con, not a haggle. The haggle was BEFORE you show up with money, dick. Had a guy do that to me on a mower, pulls out $100 short of the agreed upon price. I told him no deal, beat it I'll sell it to the guy who just called me. He was like "Whoa, it's only $100, you're gonna lose this sale over $100??" I said "You're going to miss out on this mower over $100?" He didn't even understand his point was his enemy. Next guy bought it, btw. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:24:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I won't do business with certain types of people because of exactly what you just described. I once repaired a furnace for a man from some Middle East country, price was verbally agreed upon before the repair was made. As I was filling out the bill he starts lowballing the shit out of me saying he was only willing to pay so much... It got heated and I was ready to rip the new part out and walk I was so pissed. He finally paid up but I will never do business with that type of person again. Welcome to America and all that, but keep you shitty customs in your own country.  i think i should only hire non-whites now |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:25:58 PM EDT
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Why in the hell are people still letting craigslist strangers come to their houses?
Doesn't anyone see the news about the numerous examples of theft, shootings, assault or murder? Seriously!?!
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:28:36 PM EDT
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Why in the hell are people still letting craigslist strangers come to their houses? Doesn't anyone see the news about the numerous examples of theft, shootings, assault or murder? Seriously!?! If I'm going down, I'm not going down without a fight.
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:28:37 PM EDT
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so
I was looking to buy an ok bike...Honda cr250 1999. I told him FIVE TIMES to reserve it, save it. Wait for me. Ill come Class ends at 2:30...takes me about an hour to get where he lives... well, 10 minutes before I get to his house text msg "sry man bike sold" no manners. fuk craigslist. I could see where he was coming from with his first come first serve but I told him like 5 times what I am on the way and it will take me time to get to his house no bike :( what a douche |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:29:37 PM EDT
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You and I both know this, the guy who came after me is just stirring shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been through this recently, I finally stopped trying to sell the car on Craigslist, might ebay it or use Autotrader. Too much Crazy to wade through or lowball offers. Lowball offers? They're just called offers. Why do you hate market economics? When you're asking $13K for a car worth just that and someone offers $5K they are just an a-hole wasting your time. You and I both know this, the guy who came after me is just stirring shit. You'd be surprised at how many people will take an offer of less than half of what something is worth , let alone what their asking. Good example Guy listed a like new ATV, he paid $7500.00 , rode it twice , scared the crap out of him "Too much power" I offered $2500.00 , ended up paying him $2850.00 It was two weeks old.
it wasn't stolen he had the paperwork from the dealer |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:30:19 PM EDT
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so I was looking to buy an ok bike...Honda cr250 1999. I told him FIVE TIMES to reserve it, save it. Wait for me. Ill come Class ends at 2:30...takes me about an hour to get where he lives... well, 10 minutes before I get to his house text msg "sry man bike sold" no manners. fuk craigslist. I could see where he was coming from with his first come first serve but I told him like 5 times what I am on the way and it will take me time to get to his house no bike :( what a douche What you did there, I see it.
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:30:40 PM EDT
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Sounds like Arabs. Or Russians |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:32:21 PM EDT
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Decided to sell one of my personal cars to fund something else. Put car up for sale in the local Kijiji and start getting emails right off the bat. Screened a few and answered a few and got a request to view the car. Set up a meet at the coffee shop down the road and the guy shows up on time. Guy is all over the car, drove it and loved it and starts talking price. We haggle for 10 minutes and agree on a price. Make arrangements to complete the transaction tonight and he shows up ready to pick up the car. Except he pulls out $1000 LESS than what we agreed upon. He has his buddy with him and they start jabbering in Lebanese and can see I'm getting pissed. The guy starts spouting off about tires that he has to replace and a scratch he has to fix (something we went over last night) and that he wanted a better deal on the car. I stated that all that he mentioned was negotiated last night and asked him what his problem was. He had no answer and started his jibberish to his buddy. I am happy I have good neighbours, they all witnessed me telling this guy and his buddy to go fuck themselves and get the fuck off my property. Several times. I had to call off another buyer because of this asshole, but the other guy was understanding and is now on his way over. Weak rant but I'm pissed. Lol. Try selling a house to a Lebanese. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:32:28 PM EDT
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so I was looking to buy an ok bike...Honda cr250 1999. I told him FIVE TIMES to reserve it, save it. Wait for me. Ill come Class ends at 2:30...takes me about an hour to get where he lives... well, 10 minutes before I get to his house text msg "sry man bike sold" no manners. fuk craigslist. I could see where he was coming from with his first come first serve but I told him like 5 times what I am on the way and it will take me time to get to his house no bike :( what a douche What you did there, I see it. LOL |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:32:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:32:54 PM EDT
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It's the Bazaar mindset You must learn the art of the Haggle. The Haggle never stops... Haggle Haggle Haggle.... Stop being a cultural imperialist with your WASPy we made a deal and I expect you to stick to it entitlement mentality... BIGGER_HAMMER This post may quite possibly be the most enlightening thing I have ever read on this forum... Ammo Oracle aside. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:33:43 PM EDT
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well that's the thing I told him id pay cash then I told him tell the guy who you sold the bike to what you changed your mind and want it back, I told him ill pay you 50$ more. He wouldn't take it. I had to walk through today's downpour, got soaked all the way through. I mean I wouldn't mind the walk if its on a sunny day but that was a lame move. I was maybe 10 minutes away from his house that honda was almost in my hands...almost |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:37:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i think i should only hire non-whites now Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I won't do business with certain types of people because of exactly what you just described. I once repaired a furnace for a man from some Middle East country, price was verbally agreed upon before the repair was made. As I was filling out the bill he starts lowballing the shit out of me saying he was only willing to pay so much... It got heated and I was ready to rip the new part out and walk I was so pissed. He finally paid up but I will never do business with that type of person again. Welcome to America and all that, but keep you shitty customs in your own country. i think i should only hire non-whites now ZW told me you were trying to eat the neighbor's dog when he was at your place. He's a racist, you know. I told him that there was no way you'd do that, you'd just get one from the pound.  |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:37:34 PM EDT
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I won't do business with certain types of people because of exactly what you just described. I once repaired a furnace for a man from some Middle East country, price was verbally agreed upon before the repair was made. As I was filling out the bill he starts lowballing the shit out of me saying he was only willing to pay so much... It got heated and I was ready to rip the new part out and walk I was so pissed. He finally paid up but I will never do business with that type of person again. Welcome to America and all that, but keep you shitty customs in your own country. Some contractors have learned to add 20% right off the bat to certain groups of people, only because they know they will get haggled down to what they would have just charged originally. We have had to go 30-40% with certain groups. For the most part it scares them off, those who stick around it might make it worthwhile to deal with them. But for the most part they just stiff you on final payment. Has happened a couple of times, we figure if we get that last payment, it is a bonus. Currently dealing with a client who is getting angry that we haven't started their project, how we are holding up progress on their house. There is the small matter of a lack of signed contract and a deposit that is kind of holding us back. They are mad that we are bugging them for money to start and mad at us for not starting because we haven't gotten paid. Umm, yeah….. People from sandy places. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:40:33 PM EDT
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Try dealing with them when they come to get their truck at the shop.
They sign the quote and are told the prices of every part and labor and when its time for them to pay the bill they try to haggle and get pissy when you won't budge. Have had a few escorted off the grounds by the police and when they threaten to sue they shut up quick when you pull out the paper work that they have signed It is fun the first few times but gets old quick |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:42:08 PM EDT
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Prospective buyer #2 will be here in 40 minutes.
He was explained the situation and understood what went on. He states he is taking the car and driving it home (300Km) tonight. This could get interesting. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:44:07 PM EDT
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Ding. Thanks for playing.
Look for a fight somewhere else.
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I've been through this recently, I finally stopped trying to sell the car on Craigslist, might ebay it or use Autotrader. Too much Crazy to wade through or lowball offers. Lowball offers? They're just called offers. Why do you hate market economics? Ding. Thanks for playing.
Look for a fight somewhere else.
Asking 10 offer of 5? c'mon, that's a dick move, economics aside. Its not nice guys who call with offers like that either. In fairness though a lot of people seem to purposely ask for too much because they know people will try to negotiate them down. Also, I used to see a lot of used Glocks and ARs listed locally for more than they were selling for new at the local gun store. Then people would act insulted if you offered them less. |
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Posted: 4/30/2015 10:44:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prospective buyer #2 will be here in 40 minutes. He was explained the situation and understood what went on. He states he is taking the car and driving it home (300Km) tonight. This could get interesting. i hope you're carrying, aye? |
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