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Posted: 10/29/2013 12:18:50 AM EDT
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And all of the fuel taxes will be removed from the price of fuel? Rightttttttt
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Posted: 10/29/2013 12:22:38 AM EDT
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I'd be pitching that shit out of the window
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Posted: 10/29/2013 12:24:48 AM EDT
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It will probably happen eventually.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 12:25:18 AM EDT
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Bitch please.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 12:26:06 AM EDT
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And all of the fuel taxes will be removed from the price of fuel? Rightttttttt This. The corollary is, why not take the simple route (pun intended) and just tax fuel. Drive more miles, use more fuel, pay more tax. Don't get me wrong, I'm not in favor of more (any?) taxes, but the only thing GPS monitoring would get you over a fuel tax is specific routes/roads driven so you could tax users of specific roads...like, wait for it, toll roads/bridges (I'm not a fan of them, either). |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 12:28:59 AM EDT
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This is incredibly stupid and pointless. Mods would be out in days on how to make those things think you drive less than you actually did.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 12:31:13 AM EDT
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This is incredibly stupid and pointless. Mods would be out in days on how to make those things think you drive less than you actually did. Which is exactly why the politicians will think it's a great idea worthy of blowing large amounts of tax money on. 
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Posted: 10/29/2013 12:31:28 AM EDT
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I'm also surprised that city's have started using IR lasers like those that are used on urinals to reset parking meters so you can't use someone else's time.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 12:35:28 AM EDT
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The devices, which track every mile a motorist drives and transmit that information to bureaucrats, are at the center of a controversial attempt in Washington and state planning offices to overhaul the outdated system for funding America's major roads. The system is only outdated because the money that comes in get spent on all the wrong garbage. But seriously, like Obamacare this isn't about getting money FOR the gov't, it's about destroying the middle class. |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 12:56:06 AM EDT
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I'm also surprised that city's have started using IR lasers like those that are used on urinals to reset parking meters so you can't use someone else's time. They've done worse. Many cities have replaced the meters with nearby printers that print a time slip you put on your dash. It's impossible to use anyone else's time. |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 1:51:47 AM EDT
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How about no
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Posted: 10/29/2013 1:53:33 AM EDT
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How about no I'm sorry. I know you worked your ass off on it.  
Eta...Shit! Wrong thread.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 3:08:36 AM EDT
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At some point we're going to have to stand up and say NO, you're NOT going to do that and if we catch you doing it anyway, you're going to jail.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 3:19:56 AM EDT
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So let me get this straight. The .gov gives you a tax credit for buying a hybrid vehicle, then bitches that the same hybrid vehicle doesn't use enough fuel to pay for wear and tear on the roads.
Also, Libertarians have joined environmental groups in lobbying to allow government to use the little boxes to keep track of the miles you drive Wat? I do not associate with any party, but that sounds like the opposite of what a Libertarian would want, no? |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 6:24:29 AM EDT
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well if they'd use the money they collect for what it was intended for there wouldn't be an issue.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 6:28:45 AM EDT
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well if they'd use the money they collect for what it was intended for there wouldn't be an issue. GPS Polling: kabal 57 LOCATION: Gun store 11/12/13 GPS Polling: kabal 57 LOCATION: Target range 11/12/13 GPS Polling: kabal 57 LOCATION: Gun store 11/15/13 GPS Polling: kabal 57 LOCATION: Gun store 11/20/13 GPS Polling: kabal 57 LOCATION: Near site of Tea Party Rally Parking Duration 2 Hours FLAG FOR NSA ATTENTION AND OR SCHEDULE HOME VISIT |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 6:45:22 AM EDT
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Will those boxes withstand the impact of a .45? Multiple times? If so, mine will function perfectly.
Fuck those assholes and their new taxes.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 6:47:39 AM EDT
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GPS Polling: kabal 57 LOCATION: Gun store 11/12/13 GPS Polling: kabal 57 LOCATION: Target range 11/12/13 GPS Polling: kabal 57 LOCATION: Gun store 11/15/13 GPS Polling: kabal 57 LOCATION: Gun store 11/20/13 GPS Polling: kabal 57 LOCATION: Near site of Tea Party Rally Parking Duration 2 Hours FLAG FOR NSA ATTENTION AND OR SCHEDULE HOME VISIT Quote HistoryQuoted:
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well if they'd use the money they collect for what it was intended for there wouldn't be an issue. GPS Polling: kabal 57 LOCATION: Gun store 11/12/13 GPS Polling: kabal 57 LOCATION: Target range 11/12/13 GPS Polling: kabal 57 LOCATION: Gun store 11/15/13 GPS Polling: kabal 57 LOCATION: Gun store 11/20/13 GPS Polling: kabal 57 LOCATION: Near site of Tea Party Rally Parking Duration 2 Hours FLAG FOR NSA ATTENTION AND OR SCHEDULE HOME VISIT hah! I think maybe you misunderstood me or I didn't write that out very well... I meant the tax money they collect NOW.. if that was spent on roads and stuff it was intended for instead of other programs, they wouldn't be having money problems to fix roads. |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 6:56:42 AM EDT
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So all my money will go to the local, county, and state governments because I rarely touch a fed road in my vehicle?
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Posted: 10/29/2013 7:18:05 AM EDT
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And the money will just be wasted like it currently is. In my area, they widened about 15-20 miles of freeway, enough to add 2 lanes in each directions. But instead, they just painted yellow diagonal lines and left the lanes exactly where they were before. So why did we add a concrete divider and pave enough for 2 more lanes? What a fucking waste.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 7:26:28 AM EDT
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Looks like I'm buying a beater and leaving it sitting in the driveway
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Posted: 10/29/2013 7:41:16 AM EDT
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The discussion to tax per mile driven has been ongoing for years. It's only a matter of time before politicians actually push it through and make it reality.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 7:42:58 AM EDT
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So let me get this straight. The .gov gives you a tax credit for buying a hybrid vehicle, then bitches that the same hybrid vehicle doesn't use enough fuel to pay for wear and tear on the roads.
Also, Wat? I do not associate with any party, but that sounds like the opposite of what a Libertarian would want, no? Quote HistoryQuoted:
So let me get this straight. The .gov gives you a tax credit for buying a hybrid vehicle, then bitches that the same hybrid vehicle doesn't use enough fuel to pay for wear and tear on the roads.
Also, Libertarians have joined environmental groups in lobbying to allow government to use the little boxes to keep track of the miles you drive Wat? I do not associate with any party, but that sounds like the opposite of what a Libertarian would want, no? Government is pulling a classic bait and switch. |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 7:43:45 AM EDT
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I'd be pitching that shit out of the window |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 7:45:44 AM EDT
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They've done worse. Many cities have replaced the meters with nearby printers that print a time slip you put on your dash. It's impossible to use anyone else's time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm also surprised that city's have started using IR lasers like those that are used on urinals to reset parking meters so you can't use someone else's time. They've done worse. Many cities have replaced the meters with nearby printers that print a time slip you put on your dash. It's impossible to use anyone else's time. Oh, THAT'S why they did that.. I noticed those when I was in Houston, never see them in OKC.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 7:46:33 AM EDT
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So let me get this straight. The .gov gives you a tax credit for buying a hybrid vehicle, then bitches that the same hybrid vehicle doesn't use enough fuel to pay for wear and tear on the roads.
Also, Wat? I do not associate with any party, but that sounds like the opposite of what a Libertarian would want, no? Quote HistoryQuoted:
So let me get this straight. The .gov gives you a tax credit for buying a hybrid vehicle, then bitches that the same hybrid vehicle doesn't use enough fuel to pay for wear and tear on the roads.
Also, Libertarians have joined environmental groups in lobbying to allow government to use the little boxes to keep track of the miles you drive Wat? I do not associate with any party, but that sounds like the opposite of what a Libertarian would want, no? "90% of Americans favor more (new) gun control." If you're gonna lie, go big.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 7:49:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd be pitching that shit out of the window  |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 7:49:23 AM EDT
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They've already been doing this for years. It's called an EZ-Pass.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 7:50:50 AM EDT
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They've done worse. Many cities have replaced the meters with nearby printers that print a time slip you put on your dash. It's impossible to use anyone else's time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm also surprised that city's have started using IR lasers like those that are used on urinals to reset parking meters so you can't use someone else's time. They've done worse. Many cities have replaced the meters with nearby printers that print a time slip you put on your dash. It's impossible to use anyone else's time. Yeah, you're starting to see muni-meters everywhere these days. |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 7:54:07 AM EDT
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I'd be pitching that shit out of the window Obfuscation and misdirection. Not destruction. |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 7:58:34 AM EDT
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a little lead lining in the car solves that problem. My car never moves from the garage.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 7:59:23 AM EDT
[#32]
H4xxx0rz!
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Posted: 10/29/2013 8:00:17 AM EDT
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This. The corollary is, why not take the simple route (pun intended) and just tax fuel. Drive more miles, use more fuel, pay more tax. Don't get me wrong, I'm not in favor of more (any?) taxes, but the only thing GPS monitoring would get you over a fuel tax is specific routes/roads driven so you could tax users of specific roads...like, wait for it, toll roads/bridges (I'm not a fan of them, either). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And all of the fuel taxes will be removed from the price of fuel? Rightttttttt This. The corollary is, why not take the simple route (pun intended) and just tax fuel. Drive more miles, use more fuel, pay more tax. Don't get me wrong, I'm not in favor of more (any?) taxes, but the only thing GPS monitoring would get you over a fuel tax is specific routes/roads driven so you could tax users of specific roads...like, wait for it, toll roads/bridges (I'm not a fan of them, either). Electric cars. |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 8:02:09 AM EDT
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All ObamaMotors vehicles come pre-installed.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 8:03:13 AM EDT
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So let me get this straight. The .gov gives you a tax credit for buying a hybrid vehicle, then bitches that the same hybrid vehicle doesn't use enough fuel to pay for wear and tear on the roads.
Also, Wat? I do not associate with any party, but that sounds like the opposite of what a Libertarian would want, no? Quote HistoryQuoted:
So let me get this straight. The .gov gives you a tax credit for buying a hybrid vehicle, then bitches that the same hybrid vehicle doesn't use enough fuel to pay for wear and tear on the roads.
Also, Libertarians have joined environmental groups in lobbying to allow government to use the little boxes to keep track of the miles you drive Wat? I do not associate with any party, but that sounds like the opposite of what a Libertarian would want, no? yeah, they pulled that one right out of their ass. i'm a little l libertarian and my immediate thought when i read just the title of that article was "fuck you in the ass with a rusty chainsaw". and then i read that little gem... oh, by the way, FBHO |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 8:09:37 AM EDT
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here's what i will do if this shit ever comes to pass..
i'll leave it enabled on my wifes car, which only goes to the grocery store and back. my pickup and my jeep, if they do mandate installation in older vehicles, will have those units wrapped in tinfoil that's chassis grounded. farrady cage, anyone. have just enough legitemate usage that it looks like we're good upstanding citizens, or is that serfs, while we're actually a thousand miles away 4-wheeling in the middle of the waterpocket fold. fuck those assholes. |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 8:12:01 AM EDT
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Drive on the roads around Orlando, Fl and you get to pay a toll constantly on the same road. over and over and over
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They've already been doing this for years. It's called an EZ-Pass. |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 8:44:11 AM EDT
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They struggle to find ways to keep the roads repaired? Fucking fire 8 of the 10 shit stains standing around while one of them is actually working.
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Posted: 10/29/2013 8:47:24 AM EDT
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It will probably happen eventually. Yep and it'll be the insurance companies that make it happen. |
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Posted: 10/29/2013 8:49:44 AM EDT
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All I want to know is how big are they and what yardage should we shoot them at???I need to know which range at the gun club to invite everyone to. Also how much tannerite to put one into low earth orbit?
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