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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:29:20 PM EDT
[#1]
Looks shopped.
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:30:26 PM EDT
[#2]
He is pleased.
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:32:04 PM EDT
[#3]
Damn they weren't far off shore were they?
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:32:15 PM EDT
[#4]
I'll be in my bunk
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:34:05 PM EDT
[#5]
What an absurd article. They are saying that the validity of the mission is related to the dollar value of the target. That's somewhere between insane and drooling on your bib retarded.
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:34:53 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks shopped. |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:36:29 PM EDT
[#7]
That image sums up our problems so well
 multi-million/billion dollar weapons platforms used against boats, mud huts, and goat-herders wielding AK-47's converted from shovels. It makes no sense. $16,000,000,000,000.00 |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:38:55 PM EDT
[#8]
Well I supposed the pirate problem is solved. What's next?
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:40:17 PM EDT
[#9]
That's not a jdam.
Seems like overkill. |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:42:36 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not a jdam. Seems like overkill. Have you seen any of the liveleak videos posted here. A bunch of morons cheering the annihilation of some goat-herder with a million dollar missile. Then they can't understand why a few of his sons want to take some flight lessons.. Blow back...it...is...a...bitch.  |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:43:55 PM EDT
[#11]
Oh hell, they spend $250,000 on a pickup truck.
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:44:08 PM EDT
[#12]
Any reason why a kinetic weapon wouldn't work just as fucking well....
It's a boat. Put a hole in it and water fills that hole for you... |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:47:13 PM EDT
[#13]
Would the bomb even need to explode to be effective? What if we put a smart bomb kit on a 2,000 pound chunk of concrete?
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:51:38 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Would the bomb even need to explode to be effective? What if we put a smart bomb kit on a 2,000 pound chunk of concrete? Your not thinking about the companies that make the weapon. They need it to blow up so Congress can appropriate more money we don't have to replace it. The military industrial complex is beautiful business. What other industry can destroy capital and get more. |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:53:32 PM EDT
[#15]
Why not drop lobbyists instead?
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:53:37 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Would the bomb even need to explode to be effective? What if we put a smart bomb kit on a 2,000 pound chunk of concrete? |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 9:59:34 PM EDT
[#17]
What I want to see, if they are taking requests that is, is the 2,000 pound bomb to be set to detonate about 6 to 8 feet above sea level, now that would blow some pirates to their base atoms.
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:04:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Your not thinking about the companies that make the weapon. They need it to blow up so Congress can appropriate more money we don't have to replace it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would the bomb even need to explode to be effective? What if we put a smart bomb kit on a 2,000 pound chunk of concrete? Your not thinking about the companies that make the weapon. They need it to blow up so Congress can appropriate more money we don't have to replace it. Looks like a GBU-24 in the photo. ~$55k a pop plus ~$32,500 per flight hour for the B1. The GBU-24 was made by Rayethon, no less. I'm sure the vice secretary of defense and former top lobbyist for Rayethon, William Lynn III, remained objective and non-biased. I think stopping piracy is a legit use of our military, unlike Iraq or Syria. But I think most piracy could be deterred by allowing cargo ships and tankers to arm themselves. This is clearly overkill. |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:07:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like a GBU-24 in the photo. ~$55k a pop plus ~$32,500 per flight hour for the B1. The GBU-24 was made by Rayethon, no less. I'm sure the vice secretary of defense and former top lobbyist for Rayethon, William Lynn III, remained objective and non-biased. I think stopping piracy is a legit use of our military, unlike Iraq or Syria. But I think most piracy could be deterred by allowing cargo ships and tankers to arm themselves. This is clearly overkill. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Would the bomb even need to explode to be effective? What if we put a smart bomb kit on a 2,000 pound chunk of concrete? Your not thinking about the companies that make the weapon. They need it to blow up so Congress can appropriate more money we don't have to replace it. Looks like a GBU-24 in the photo. ~$55k a pop plus ~$32,500 per flight hour for the B1. The GBU-24 was made by Rayethon, no less. I'm sure the vice secretary of defense and former top lobbyist for Rayethon, William Lynn III, remained objective and non-biased. I think stopping piracy is a legit use of our military, unlike Iraq or Syria. But I think most piracy could be deterred by allowing cargo ships and tankers to arm themselves. This is clearly overkill. That is the solution. It's funny how more freedom works. |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:11:03 PM EDT
[#20]
Huh, wonder how much a .50 cal round costs?
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:12:48 PM EDT
[#21]
If the pay is good I'll take my cargo pants on a cargo ship with a rifle
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:13:18 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Huh, wonder how much a .50 cal round costs? Well the round doesn't cost much. But if it's fired from a military ship it's expensive. If its fired from the deck of the ship being attacked...not so much.
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:14:27 PM EDT
[#23]
Good when you want to go out there OP and fight the enemy I'll remember to tell you why I couldn't call in CAS for you when your position is being overrun.
When you actually have some skin in the game come back to us. |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:14:54 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Huh, wonder how much a .50 cal round costs?   |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:16:02 PM EDT
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Either that or a d....d.d.d.dddrone.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Predator_and_Hellfire.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Huh, wonder how much a .50 cal round costs?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Predator_and_Hellfire.jpg 
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:16:32 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good when you want to go out there OP and fight the enemy I'll remember to tell you why I couldn't call in CAS for you when your position is being overrun. When you actually have some skin in the game come back to us. I love the appeal to emotion. Even if it's totally ridiculous. |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:18:24 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good when you want to go out there OP and fight the enemy I'll remember to tell you why I couldn't call in CAS for you when your position is being overrun. When you actually have some skin in the game come back to us. I, for one, am content in the knowledge that if our servicemen are ever attacked by massive swarms of rowboats, the United States Air Force is ready and willing to drop lots and lots of money to save them. |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:20:09 PM EDT
[#28]
This seems adequate and significantly more cost effective than spending a $100,000s of dollars on b1 sorties.
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:21:16 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I, for one, am content in the knowledge that if our servicemen are ever attacked by massive swarms of rowboats, the United States Air Force is ready and willing to drop lots and lots of money to save them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good when you want to go out there OP and fight the enemy I'll remember to tell you why I couldn't call in CAS for you when your position is being overrun. When you actually have some skin in the game come back to us. I, for one, am content in the knowledge that if our servicemen are ever attacked by massive swarms of rowboats, the United States Air Force is ready and willing to drop lots and lots of money to save them. You sir, are a patriot.  |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:27:43 PM EDT
[#30]
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This seems adequate and significantly more cost effective than spending a $100,000s of dollars on b1 sorties.  http://youtu.be/RVnpY8HhTwUwell how much are you paying the PMC's then |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:30:06 PM EDT
[#31]
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well how much are you paying the PMC's then Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This seems adequate and significantly more cost effective than spending a $100,000s of dollars on b1 sorties. http://youtu.be/RVnpY8HhTwUwell how much are you paying the PMC's then However much the company feels like paying them. Hell, I'll bet people would do it for free. Take a few months off and go on a cruise and shoot pirates or fun. I could make some awesome brochures for it. I see no reason why the crew shouldn't be allowed to arm themselves. |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:32:47 PM EDT
[#32]
ALLOW ships to arm themselves.
problem solved. SHIT, I wish people would recognize INDIVIDUAL freedom works. The only problem with piracy is the fact that many jurisdictions ONLY allow criminals to have guns. |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:33:17 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
well how much are you paying the PMC's then Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This seems adequate and significantly more cost effective than spending a $100,000s of dollars on b1 sorties. http://youtu.be/RVnpY8HhTwUwell how much are you paying the PMC's then Shit, I'd do it for room, board, medical while on contract, and about $15/hour for hours on watch. Don't have to pay me dick when I'm in my rack. |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:36:27 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like a GBU-24 in the photo. ~$55k a pop plus ~$32,500 per flight hour for the B1. The GBU-24 was made by Rayethon, no less. I'm sure the vice secretary of defense and former top lobbyist for Rayethon, William Lynn III, remained objective and non-biased. I think stopping piracy is a legit use of our military, unlike Iraq or Syria. But I think most piracy could be deterred by allowing cargo ships and tankers to arm themselves. This is clearly overkill. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Would the bomb even need to explode to be effective? What if we put a smart bomb kit on a 2,000 pound chunk of concrete? Your not thinking about the companies that make the weapon. They need it to blow up so Congress can appropriate more money we don't have to replace it. Looks like a GBU-24 in the photo. ~$55k a pop plus ~$32,500 per flight hour for the B1. The GBU-24 was made by Rayethon, no less. I'm sure the vice secretary of defense and former top lobbyist for Rayethon, William Lynn III, remained objective and non-biased. I think stopping piracy is a legit use of our military, unlike Iraq or Syria. But I think most piracy could be deterred by allowing cargo ships and tankers to arm themselves. This is clearly overkill. We can't afford to spend millions of dollars to kill goat herders that can be replaced for $500 all day long. Especially when we can use weapon systems that are several orders of magnitude cheaper.
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:37:08 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ALLOW ships to arm themselves. problem solved. |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:40:03 PM EDT
[#36]
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problem solved. They already can. A lot of companies don't hire any security and then get ransacked by third worlders. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ALLOW ships to arm themselves. They already can. A lot of companies don't hire any security and then get ransacked by third worlders. Are they allowed to arm themselves or do they have to hire PMCs? |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:40:36 PM EDT
[#37]
.... Ummm.... I'm fairly sure that's a training bomb...
Bomber pilots training to drop training bombs on training targets during training missions... Stop the presses! That's a pretty impressive hit, actually... Even with modern PGMs. I guess the author of that article doesn't understand that pilots need to train? And you might as well give them very difficult targets to train against. Doesn't get a lot harder to hit than a motorized fishing boat with a screaming engine.
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:42:08 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are they allowed to arm themselves or do they have to hire PMCs? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: ALLOW ships to arm themselves. They already can. A lot of companies don't hire any security and then get ransacked by third worlders. Are they allowed to arm themselves or do they have to hire PMCs? International water are open game, I think.
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:42:50 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: problem solved. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ALLOW ships to arm themselves. problem solved. A lot of States restrict weapons. That effects the arming of ships. Get caught in a lot of waters with weapons and you're looking at years in prison. |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:43:24 PM EDT
[#40]
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Well I supposed the pirate problem is solved. What's next? I would have no problem with it at all if they were dropping them on the real Somali pirates. |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:50:49 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: problem solved. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ALLOW ships to arm themselves. problem solved. |
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Posted: 9/17/2013 10:56:57 PM EDT
[#42]
Just a little touch up on the paint and it should be good to go.
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Posted: 9/17/2013 11:52:05 PM EDT
[#43]
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ALLOW ships to arm themselves. problem solved. SHIT, I wish people would recognize INDIVIDUAL freedom works. The only problem with piracy is the fact that many jurisdictions ONLY allow criminals to have guns. American ships ARE allowed to arm themselves. If you can legally buy it in the U.S., you can mount it to the ship or carry it onboard. The problem is foreign countries with illiberal laws. Another problem is insurance companies and their policies, although this is less of a problem today than it was a few years ago. If you can't enter foreign ports and have insurance coverage, things are going to suck if you're a ship owner. A treaty would probably needed to resolve the issue, but Obama certainly isn't going to sign onto that, not when he supports gun controul treaties. |
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Posted: 9/18/2013 12:17:42 AM EDT
[#44]
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Would the bomb even need to explode to be effective? What if we put a smart bomb kit on a 2,000 pound chunk of concrete? The bomb did not explode, it was a blue cased bomb, this usually signifies an inert practice bomb, they are usually filled with concrete and designed to weigh the same a a live bomb, just they don't have a war head in them, so they can see exactly where they hit instead of a massive fire ball.this is a benefit for training / testing. The Brits used them on their Tornado jets to take out Iraqi tanks in cities without taking out all the buildings near the tanks, they said a 2000lb bomb with laser guidance from 20k feet was very effective against a tank and as can be seen by the picture of the boat they seem to be effective in this application too. |
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Posted: 9/18/2013 12:31:48 AM EDT
[#45]
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The bomb did not explode, it was a blue cased bomb, this usually signifies an inert practice bomb, they are usually filled with concrete and designed to weigh the same a a live bomb, just they don't have a war head in them, so they can see exactly where they hit instead of a massive fire ball.this is a benefit for training / testing. The Brits used them on their Tornado jets to take out Iraqi tanks in cities without taking out all the buildings near the tanks, they said a 2000lb bomb with laser guidance from 20k feet was very effective against a tank and as can be seen by the picture of the boat they seem to be effective in this application too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would the bomb even need to explode to be effective? What if we put a smart bomb kit on a 2,000 pound chunk of concrete? The bomb did not explode, it was a blue cased bomb, this usually signifies an inert practice bomb, they are usually filled with concrete and designed to weigh the same a a live bomb, just they don't have a war head in them, so they can see exactly where they hit instead of a massive fire ball.this is a benefit for training / testing. The Brits used them on their Tornado jets to take out Iraqi tanks in cities without taking out all the buildings near the tanks, they said a 2000lb bomb with laser guidance from 20k feet was very effective against a tank and as can be seen by the picture of the boat they seem to be effective in this application too. so...mini rods of god |
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Posted: 9/18/2013 12:39:37 AM EDT
[#46]
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so...mini rods of god Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would the bomb even need to explode to be effective? What if we put a smart bomb kit on a 2,000 pound chunk of concrete? The bomb did not explode, it was a blue cased bomb, this usually signifies an inert practice bomb, they are usually filled with concrete and designed to weigh the same a a live bomb, just they don't have a war head in them, so they can see exactly where they hit instead of a massive fire ball.this is a benefit for training / testing. The Brits used them on their Tornado jets to take out Iraqi tanks in cities without taking out all the buildings near the tanks, they said a 2000lb bomb with laser guidance from 20k feet was very effective against a tank and as can be seen by the picture of the boat they seem to be effective in this application too. so...mini rods of god French have done the same in lybia for tank plinking, it also helps avoiding collaterals. |
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Posted: 9/18/2013 12:41:07 AM EDT
[#47]
I just like saying rods of god
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Posted: 9/18/2013 12:43:50 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
The bomb did not explode, it was a blue cased bomb, this usually signifies an inert practice bomb, they are usually filled with concrete and designed to weigh the same a a live bomb, just they don't have a war head in them, so they can see exactly where they hit instead of a massive fire ball.this is a benefit for training / testing. The Brits used them on their Tornado jets to take out Iraqi tanks in cities without taking out all the buildings near the tanks, they said a 2000lb bomb with laser guidance from 20k feet was very effective against a tank and as can be seen by the picture of the boat they seem to be effective in this application too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would the bomb even need to explode to be effective? What if we put a smart bomb kit on a 2,000 pound chunk of concrete? The bomb did not explode, it was a blue cased bomb, this usually signifies an inert practice bomb, they are usually filled with concrete and designed to weigh the same a a live bomb, just they don't have a war head in them, so they can see exactly where they hit instead of a massive fire ball.this is a benefit for training / testing. The Brits used them on their Tornado jets to take out Iraqi tanks in cities without taking out all the buildings near the tanks, they said a 2000lb bomb with laser guidance from 20k feet was very effective against a tank and as can be seen by the picture of the boat they seem to be effective in this application too. I thought the splash was a bit small for a 2000lb bomb. |
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Posted: 9/18/2013 12:48:40 AM EDT
[#49]
As pointed out the title of the article is "The Air Force blew up this tiny ‘pirate boat’ with a 2,000-pound smart bomb, because America" the article states a GBU-10 was used
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Posted: 9/18/2013 12:51:36 AM EDT
[#50]
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As pointed out the title of the article is "The Air Force blew up this tiny ‘pirate boat’ with a 2,000-pound smart bomb, because America" the article states a GBU-10 was used Obviously. How would you hit a moving target reliably with a jdam ? You need some laser guidance there. |
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