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Posted: 9/9/2013 9:55:29 AM EDT
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good book for this
http://www.dragonusaonline.com/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=CON6527 Also here http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Galleries/Uniforms.html |
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Posted: 9/9/2013 10:29:00 AM EDT
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Anzio isn't in Sicily and the battle was in 1944.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 10:49:29 AM EDT
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Anzio isn't in Sicily and the battle was in 1944. Heh! I'm stupid, I got mixed up. Thanks. |
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Posted: 9/9/2013 11:00:56 AM EDT
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LW crews would have worn field blue, not field gray, wool uniforms. Not sure though if they would have been in tropical or wool uniforms at Anzio.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 11:12:29 AM EDT
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Sort of depends on "when". The landing happened in January 22 1944 and the break out in May 1944. The winter of 1943/4 was cold (not as cold as the severe winter of 1944/5, but cold).
A German picture of troops near the beachead - lookslike a mix of feldrau and HBT 'drillich'.  Kesselring at Monte Cassino (not to far awayy from Anzio / Nettuno as the crow flies, actually). The Heer Gefreiter is wearing a mix (assault gun crew wrap tunic with tropical trousers?). 
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Posted: 9/9/2013 11:19:16 AM EDT
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Short answer is Luftwaffe field blue. Long answer is it could be almost anything. Some, perhaps the majority, of AA crews were Luftwaffe. But, German Army division typically had a heavy AA battery attached, so it could be Army uniforms. Compunding that is German uniforms were in transisition in that time period. Things were starting to get chaotic on the supply front and uniforms were anything but uniform. Afrika Corps tropicals would have been unlikely by then but not impossible. The Italian front seemed especially varied when it comes to uniforms as the summers could be quite warm and the winters bitterly cold.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 11:50:36 AM EDT
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Short answer is Luftwaffe field blue. Long answer is it could be almost anything. Some, perhaps the majority, of AA crews were Luftwaffe. But, German Army division typically had a heavy AA battery attached, so it could be Army uniforms. Compunding that is German uniforms were in transisition in that time period. Things were starting to get chaotic on the supply front and uniforms were anything but uniform. Afrika Corps tropicals would have been unlikely by then but not impossible. The Italian front seemed especially varied when it comes to uniforms as the summers could be quite warm and the winters bitterly cold. Hmm. I didn't know that. I thought all flak batteries fell under the Luftwaffe. With that info, I may just go with field grey and go with Army instead of Luftwaffe. Would they still have red collar tabs for artillery? |
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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:29:41 PM EDT
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Hmm. I didn't know that. I thought all flak batteries fell under the Luftwaffe. With that info, I may just go with field grey and go with Army instead of Luftwaffe. Would they still have red collar tabs for artillery? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Short answer is Luftwaffe field blue. Long answer is it could be almost anything. Some, perhaps the majority, of AA crews were Luftwaffe. But, German Army division typically had a heavy AA battery attached, so it could be Army uniforms. Compunding that is German uniforms were in transisition in that time period. Things were starting to get chaotic on the supply front and uniforms were anything but uniform. Afrika Corps tropicals would have been unlikely by then but not impossible. The Italian front seemed especially varied when it comes to uniforms as the summers could be quite warm and the winters bitterly cold. Hmm. I didn't know that. I thought all flak batteries fell under the Luftwaffe. With that info, I may just go with field grey and go with Army instead of Luftwaffe. Would they still have red collar tabs for artillery? Yes, but by that time, most likely only on the sholder board piping. The litzen would be "generic." |
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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:32:44 PM EDT
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Yes, but by that time, most likely only on the sholder board piping. The litzen would be "generic." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Short answer is Luftwaffe field blue. Long answer is it could be almost anything. Some, perhaps the majority, of AA crews were Luftwaffe. But, German Army division typically had a heavy AA battery attached, so it could be Army uniforms. Compunding that is German uniforms were in transisition in that time period. Things were starting to get chaotic on the supply front and uniforms were anything but uniform. Afrika Corps tropicals would have been unlikely by then but not impossible. The Italian front seemed especially varied when it comes to uniforms as the summers could be quite warm and the winters bitterly cold. Hmm. I didn't know that. I thought all flak batteries fell under the Luftwaffe. With that info, I may just go with field grey and go with Army instead of Luftwaffe. Would they still have red collar tabs for artillery? Yes, but by that time, most likely only on the sholder board piping. The litzen would be "generic." Okay cool. Generic was pretty much just the grey litzen, correct? Sorry, this stuff gets confusing 
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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:34:28 PM EDT
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Okay cool. Generic was pretty much just the grey litzen, correct? Sorry, this stuff gets confusing Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Short answer is Luftwaffe field blue. Long answer is it could be almost anything. Some, perhaps the majority, of AA crews were Luftwaffe. But, German Army division typically had a heavy AA battery attached, so it could be Army uniforms. Compunding that is German uniforms were in transisition in that time period. Things were starting to get chaotic on the supply front and uniforms were anything but uniform. Afrika Corps tropicals would have been unlikely by then but not impossible. The Italian front seemed especially varied when it comes to uniforms as the summers could be quite warm and the winters bitterly cold. Hmm. I didn't know that. I thought all flak batteries fell under the Luftwaffe. With that info, I may just go with field grey and go with Army instead of Luftwaffe. Would they still have red collar tabs for artillery? Yes, but by that time, most likely only on the sholder board piping. The litzen would be "generic." Okay cool. Generic was pretty much just the grey litzen, correct? Sorry, this stuff gets confusing Yes. |
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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:36:53 PM EDT
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Short answer is Luftwaffe field blue. Long answer is it could be almost anything. Some, perhaps the majority, of AA crews were Luftwaffe. But, German Army division typically had a heavy AA battery attached, so it could be Army uniforms. Compunding that is German uniforms were in transisition in that time period. Things were starting to get chaotic on the supply front and uniforms were anything but uniform. Afrika Corps tropicals would have been unlikely by then but not impossible. The Italian front seemed especially varied when it comes to uniforms as the summers could be quite warm and the winters bitterly cold. Hmm. I didn't know that. I thought all flak batteries fell under the Luftwaffe. With that info, I may just go with field grey and go with Army instead of Luftwaffe. Would they still have red collar tabs for artillery? Yes, but by that time, most likely only on the sholder board piping. The litzen would be "generic." Okay cool. Generic was pretty much just the grey litzen, correct? Sorry, this stuff gets confusing Yes. Roger, thanks! I'll probably have more questions in the near future 
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Posted: 9/9/2013 12:41:55 PM EDT
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German uniforms are an incredibly complex subject. To the extant it almost seems like every uniform was different. Plus it seemed like everyone in Germany belonged to an organization that had some kind of uniform and rank structure.
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Posted: 9/9/2013 3:48:09 PM EDT
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Lots of really good reference works out there.
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