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Posted: 11/24/2012 12:23:53 AM EDT
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The way Californians keep migrating it might be sooner than that.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 12:24:47 AM EDT
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Yes they will, if this country lasts that long. Because they are infected. The whole country is.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 12:28:47 AM EDT
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Quoted: Yes they will, if this country lasts that long. Because they are infected. The whole country is. I'm not so sure. I spent a few months down there this year and the general attitude is nothing like it is here. But I've heard the concern and want to know where it comes from.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 12:30:36 AM EDT
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I think it probably will eventually. But not in at least 20 years or so. There's too many outlaying small towns that balance out the lib cesspools of Austin, Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 12:30:44 AM EDT
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Yes they will, if this country lasts that long. Because they are infected. The whole country is. I'm not so sure. I spent a few months down there this year and the general attitude is nothing like it is here. But I've heard the concern and want to know where it comes from. The city's man. The whole state doesn't have to be infected, just the large population centers and then its over. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 12:35:32 AM EDT
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Yes they will, if this country lasts that long. Because they are infected. The whole country is. I'm not so sure. I spent a few months down there this year and the general attitude is nothing like it is here. But I've heard the concern and want to know where it comes from. The city's man. The whole state doesn't have to be infected, just the large population centers and then its over. Our population centers are becoming so dense they are breaking even the electoral college, which was originally intended to balance population representation with geographic representation. As soon as population in major (assumed to be Democrat) population centers in a state outnumber the rest of the state population, the state will never go back unless those population centers somehow shrink. Our government was not designed to adequately represent and function electorally with millions of people living in a few square miles within states that cover millions of square miles. The founding fathers foresaw and planned for a lot, but there really isn't any way to provide an electoral system that adequately represents both heartland farmers who can't see another human in any direction, and several hundred people who live in a single building in a metropolis. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 12:35:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes they will, if this country lasts that long. Because they are infected. The whole country is. I'm not so sure. I spent a few months down there this year and the general attitude is nothing like it is here. But I've heard the concern and want to know where it comes from. The city's man. The whole state doesn't have to be infected, just the large population centers and then its over. I realize that Austin is what it is. But in San Antonio most people I talked to seemed pretty conservative/anti-Obama. Never been to Houston or Dallas.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 12:42:40 AM EDT
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Quoted: depends really. Quoted: Yes they will, if this country lasts that long. Because they are infected. The whole country is. I'm not so sure. I spent a few months down there this year and the general attitude is nothing like it is here. But I've heard the concern and want to know where it comes from. A lot of people say that texas will turn blue because of hispanics. Yet in AZ our state has become more red in spite of a growing percentage of hispanic people. Democrats are THIRD in registration following republicans and independents. I personally think it depends mostly on the way the cities grow. You would think bigger city equals more liberals. I tend to think more compact cities are what lead to this crap because maricopa county (phoenix and surrounding areas) is very conservative and it's the biggest city here. The liberal places in the state are smaller places with either high college populations such as flagstaff or high illegal populations such as tuscon. If a city spreads wide instead of up like phoenix has it seems to keep its rural feel and the libtardism doesn't seem to grow. If texas doesn't start doing something to scare the illegals out of the state they might be fucked though. Arizona has lots of illegals but most of them are just passing through because they know they aren't welcome and we wont make it easy for them to live and work here. If texas doesn't take the same approach the illegals will settle and have lots of voting poor socialist children and it will turn blue. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:06:28 AM EDT
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Yes they will, if this country lasts that long. Because they are infected. The whole country is. I'm not so sure. I spent a few months down there this year and the general attitude is nothing like it is here. But I've heard the concern and want to know where it comes from. The city's man. The whole state doesn't have to be infected, just the large population centers and then its over. I realize that Austin is what it is. But in San Antonio most people I talked to seemed pretty conservative/anti-Obama. Never been to Houston or Dallas. Houston is very polarized; you're right or left. Dallas is a nanny city; Ft. Worth, 30 minutes west, is conservative. Houston tends to elect lib mayors. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:20:09 AM EDT
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Does it really matter??? The last two elections have shown that it does not. Ohio is solid blue now, I dont see an R winning anytime soon.
Maybe a hundred years form now, but in 4-8 years?? No way. Texas could vote 100% for an R........would it help??? Nope. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:20:20 AM EDT
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Yes they will, if this country lasts that long. Because they are infected. The whole country is. I'm not so sure. I spent a few months down there this year and the general attitude is nothing like it is here. But I've heard the concern and want to know where it comes from. The city's man. The whole state doesn't have to be infected, just the large population centers and then its over. This is actually the same problem you see in California. If you look at a map of how CA. votes by county you can also see the locations of theit major urban strongholds. The entire state is red as hell except for the handful of large cities where the blue dots are. Texans, in my experience, are pretty conservative. Hell, even most of our liberals are. Once you get into the urban conclaves, it gets really blue, very quickly. I suspect that cities draw poverty because of their resources to handle it and those people vote for more resources. Just try being broke in Shelbyville, TN, nobody will give a shit, they'll tell you to go to the church or Nashville for your help. Most indigent will pull up stakes, move to "the big city" and apply at the office for the plethora of benefits they couldn't get out in rural America. I live in Houston. I actually like it here. I'm not leaving because one district keeps Sheila Jackson-Lee in office. I'm here changing minds. I think with our heavy Hispanic population, the refugees from Katrina, the students pouring out of Austin and the migration of so many "failed staters" we will eventually go the way of California. All red with blue dots in our major urban areas. The problem arises when you consider that our major cities combined population is larger than most states total. It won't be soon, but, I think, it will be. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:26:48 AM EDT
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I think it probably will eventually. But not in at least 20 years or so. There's too many outlaying small towns that balance out the lib cesspools of Austin, Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio. uh, that's not a very good indicator. here in Nevada, we are ALL red except Vegas and Reno, we went for the soiled king in our state as well. I think the demographics are shifting until we conservatives and libertarians actually get serious about our future as a country. in the last 3 election cycles we haven't shown anything worthy of a win. The 2010 mid terms, while important, are not a good indicator as hardly any people really vote in those. so a R win was all too easy. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:27:50 AM EDT
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I take alot of heat from Mass friends about NH no longer being red, but I think this is a trend for the whole country, and other red states will trend more blue.
The pendulum may swing back the other way in future years, but the general trend is more blue due to more of an Urban, "Ask what your country can do for you" mindset, vs. "Ask what you can do for your country". Just as in Mass, in NH most people outside the major cities are still firmly Red. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:31:02 AM EDT
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Sadly, it probably will.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:32:22 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:33:42 AM EDT
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There is a pretty good amount of democrat voters already there considering Texas is usually mentioned when people think most conservative.
2012 Texas popular vote results That is alot of red in that pie graph. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:38:56 AM EDT
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Maybe the villians on Jericho were on to something when they nuked the major cities. Just sayin'
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:39:25 AM EDT
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Yes they will, if this country lasts that long. Because they are infected. The whole country is. I'm not so sure. I spent a few months down there this year and the general attitude is nothing like it is here. But I've heard the concern and want to know where it comes from. The city's man. The whole state doesn't have to be infected, just the large population centers and then its over. Our population centers are becoming so dense they are breaking even the electoral college, which was originally intended to balance population representation with geographic representation. As soon as population in major (assumed to be Democrat) population centers in a state outnumber the rest of the state population, the state will never go back unless those population centers somehow shrink. Our government was not designed to adequately represent and function electorally with millions of people living in a few square miles within states that cover millions of square miles. The founding fathers foresaw and planned for a lot, but there really isn't any way to provide an electoral system that adequately represents both heartland farmers who can't see another human in any direction, and several hundred people who live in a single building in a metropolis. There you go....Look at Virginia for you paradigm of despair on the Federal level. 
It's only a matter of time for TX unless the Hispanic vote can be turned around. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:40:10 AM EDT
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In the next 10-20 years, will Texas become a swing state? If so, why? And if not, why not? yes. you don't cut out cancer you better fucking expect it to spread. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:39:52 PM EDT
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Thread, I bump thee.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:42:12 PM EDT
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The way Californians keep migrating it might be sooner than that. snicker This right here. They're more numerous than those folks from south of the river.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:43:36 PM EDT
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Doesn't matter unless the rest of the country gets its shit together, and fast.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 4:51:44 PM EDT
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Put it this way, once Texas falls, we will never see another Republican president. Virginia is lost and NC is barely hanging on. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I believe SC and Georgia will be blue by the 2020 or 2024 elections.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:10:19 PM EDT
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Yes they will, if this country lasts that long. Because they are infected. The whole country is. I'm not so sure. I spent a few months down there this year and the general attitude is nothing like it is here. But I've heard the concern and want to know where it comes from. The city's man. The whole state doesn't have to be infected, just the large population centers and then its over. I realize that Austin is what it is. But in San Antonio most people I talked to seemed pretty conservative/anti-Obama. Never been to Houston or Dallas. Most of the people I meet in San Diego are anti Obama and pro gun. Doesn't mean california will ever be conservative again. IMO, Texas will turn blue next election, it will be close (less close if amnesty and a voter registration drive happens before then), but it will become solidly blue from 2020 on. I am curious to see what formerly red state will be the first to have the cajones to pull back from shall issue CCW to may/no issue and enact an AWB. My money is on FL. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:21:08 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes they will, if this country lasts that long. Because they are infected. The whole country is. I'm not so sure. I spent a few months down there this year and the general attitude is nothing like it is here. But I've heard the concern and want to know where it comes from. The city's man. The whole state doesn't have to be infected, just the large population centers and then its over. I realize that Austin is what it is. But in San Antonio most people I talked to seemed pretty conservative/anti-Obama. Never been to Houston or Dallas. Most of the people I meet in San Diego are anti Obama and pro gun. Doesn't mean california will ever be conservative again. IMO, Texas will turn blue next election, it will be close (less close if amnesty and a voter registration drive happens before then), but it will become solidly blue from 2020 on. I am curious to see what formerly red state will be the first to have the cajones to pull back from shall issue CCW to may/no issue and enact an AWB. My money is on FL. If it does go blue there will be a LOT of stunned individuals out there. Many people I talked to laughed when I asked, assured me that it would never happen.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:22:15 PM EDT
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Yes it will be blut in probably less than 10 years because of all of the Spanish influence coming from Mexico and moving north.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:22:43 PM EDT
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In the next 10-20 years, will Texas become a swing state? If so, why? And if not, why not? When the majority of Texan voters are the children or grandchildren of illegal immigrants then Texas will be a democrat strong hold. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:23:40 PM EDT
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If they get amnesty passed then yes. Tens of millions of illegals will be voting democrat. Once Texas and it's electoral votes go blue no Republican will ever win POTUS again.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:24:52 PM EDT
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The way Californians keep migrating it might be sooner than that. snicker This right here. They're more numerous than those folks from south of the river.
That at least blances out. With the population shift the census changes the number of EC votes. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:26:33 PM EDT
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Quoted: If they get amnesty passed then yes. Tens of millions of illegals will be voting democrat. Once Texas and it's electoral votes go blue no Republican will ever win POTUS again. Aren't they voting already? There's no id requirement, the ballot is basically open to anyone, citizen or not.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:26:37 PM EDT
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At some point yes. Hopefully 20 yrs rather than 10.
I expect a whole lot more states ( red ones ) to become swing states or liberal states. Our culture and demographics are changing and not for the better. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:28:22 PM EDT
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If they get amnesty passed then yes. Tens of millions of illegals will be voting democrat. Once Texas and it's electoral votes go blue no Republican will ever win POTUS again. Aren't they voting already? There's no id requirement, the ballot is basically open to anyone, citizen or not. Are they? For as corrupt as my state is our voting process is fairly secure. I imagined Texas was mostly the same. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:29:05 PM EDT
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If they get amnesty passed then yes. Tens of millions of illegals will be voting democrat. Once Texas and it's electoral votes go blue no Republican will ever win POTUS again. The bigger problem is it won't just be Texas. By that point Florida will be solid blue, not even pretending to be a swing state. Same as probably most of the other swing states now. Following Texas as a swing state will be other current red states that are either becoming highly populated by hispanics, or leaning red by a smaller margin than others. I think we are in deep trouble for the future. Even today's America won't be recognizable in twenty years. That isn't even addressing the America of 20 yrs ago from now 
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:29:19 PM EDT
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Liberalism is a mental disorder and the cancer of our republic.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:31:59 PM EDT
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Yes they will, if this country lasts that long. Because they are infected. The whole country is. I'm not so sure. I spent a few months down there this year and the general attitude is nothing like it is here. But I've heard the concern and want to know where it comes from. Illegal immigration followed by amnesty combined with liberals moving to the state for jobs will doom this state and the nation. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:33:59 PM EDT
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The next election or the one after, Texas will go commie
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:34:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If they get amnesty passed then yes. Tens of millions of illegals will be voting democrat. Once Texas and it's electoral votes go blue no Republican will ever win POTUS again. Aren't they voting already? There's no id requirement, the ballot is basically open to anyone, citizen or not. Are they? For as corrupt as my state is our voting process is fairly secure. I imagined Texas was mostly the same. I don't know, I'm asking. Here I believe they could. No id, if your name isn't on the list you're given a provisional ballot. I don't know if Texas has the same setup or not. If they do it's likely that amnesty wouldn't affect too much of a change in the ballot results.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:36:30 PM EDT
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The next election or the one after, Texas will go commie I doubt it will be the next one. We probably won't win the next election, but I think Texas will do its part for a little while longer. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:37:22 PM EDT
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The way they gerrymander urban and suburban areas, it's just a matter of time before one political party has total control.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:37:28 PM EDT
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It can be prevented if they get rid of that "Winner take all" electroal vote nonsense and award votes based on congressional district. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:37:52 PM EDT
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Texas was blue for many years and is headed back. Only thing to change it is a total economic failure and it appears we are headed the way of Europe quicker than they got there. Hispanic and Black vote coupled with the uneducated white vote now rules.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:43:02 PM EDT
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Quoted: Texas was blue for many years and is headed back. Only thing to change it is a total economic failure and it appears we are headed the way of Europe quicker than they got there. Hispanic and Black vote coupled with the uneducated white vote now rules. I'm to understand that Texas in itself has a pretty strong economy. I was busy while I was down there and talked to a few people who had previously moved to different states, but had to move back because the work dried up. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:44:00 PM EDT
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Yes they will, if this country lasts that long. Because they are infected. The whole country is. I'm not so sure. I spent a few months down there this year and the general attitude is nothing like it is here. But I've heard the concern and want to know where it comes from. It wasn't too long ago we didn't think NH would ever be a blue state. Twenty years ago it would have been considered heresy. Until Clinton came along the last Dem to get the NH vote was LBJ. It's not TX natives you have to worry about, it's the transplants. That's what happened to NH. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:45:56 PM EDT
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Put it this way, once Texas falls, we will never see another Republican president. Virginia is lost and NC is barely hanging on. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I believe SC and Georgia will be blue by the 2020 or 2024 elections. I seriously doubt it. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:53:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/24/2012 5:57:51 PM EDT
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Yes they will, if this country lasts that long. Because they are infected. The whole country is. I'm not so sure. I spent a few months down there this year and the general attitude is nothing like it is here. But I've heard the concern and want to know where it comes from. The city's man. The whole state doesn't have to be infected, just the large population centers and then its over. This ! thats what happened to VA . I dont think we will ever be red again . too many liberals from the NE & West Coast call NOVA home 
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Posted: 11/24/2012 6:02:13 PM EDT
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Put it this way, once Texas falls, we will never see another Republican president. Virginia is lost and NC is barely hanging on. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I believe SC and Georgia will be blue by the 2020 or 2024 elections. I seriously doubt it. I wouldn't doubt it too much with Atlanta. Think of who is causing Georgia to grow. Hispanics and transplants from up north. Georgia will fall before SC though. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 6:04:19 PM EDT
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Our only hope is to educate the "young" people: high school or college.
The lefties must not be allowed to be the only "guidance" in that period. |
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Posted: 11/24/2012 6:04:36 PM EDT
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I live in Houston. Obama won Harris County by 2 votes.
It was rather disheartening to see all of the obviously FSA people in line to vote in my area.
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Posted: 11/24/2012 6:08:17 PM EDT
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If things go the way they are we will see no gop candidate after 2020. the major population centers drive the electoral vote.
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