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Posted: 7/21/2012 9:47:01 PM EDT
I just just read this off a Romney site...And this is well.....More awsome news!

In Massachusetts 1994, Mitt Romney said, "I don't line up with the NRA." A decade later, as governor, he signed legislation making a state assault weapons ban permanent.!!! Romney also supported a national assault weapons ban and the Brady Bill during his 1994 Senate run ....  WTF and all I hear is its Obama...Its Romney!  ObamaCare came from RomneyCare...Its Romney the Assault weapon Fascist!  

Great.....Just great.

Now this is not a Pro Obama post its a Fact post.  Something we need to look into with Romney.
Link Posted: 7/21/2012 10:00:50 PM EDT
[#1]
Where you been? WE KNOW!!! Somehow Romney is better than chocolate Jesus. Something about chess and checkers, supreme court and the R behind his name
Link Posted: 7/21/2012 10:18:21 PM EDT
[#2]
You must not come here often.

Try to keep up would ya.

Link Posted: 7/22/2012 3:46:40 AM EDT
[#3]
Topic Moved
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 5:39:07 AM EDT
[#4]
because the citizens of that State support it.....
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 5:39:55 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
I just just read this off a Romney site...And this is well.....More awsome news!

In Massachusetts 1994, Mitt Romney said, "I don't line up with the NRA." A decade later, as governor, he signed legislation making a state assault weapons ban permanent.!!! Romney also supported a national assault weapons ban and the Brady Bill during his 1994 Senate run ....  WTF and all I hear is its Obama...Its Romney!  ObamaCare came from RomneyCare...Its Romney the Assault weapon Fascist!  

Great.....Just great.

Now this is not a Pro Obama post its a Fact post.  Something we need to look into with Romney.


Ok.
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 5:40:48 AM EDT
[#6]
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because the citizens of that State support it.....


Yup.

No help for the retards.
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 5:41:37 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
because the citizens of that State support it.....


and the 2A citizens are becoming outnumbered as a country
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 5:43:07 AM EDT
[#8]
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 5:46:28 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
The Mass AWB was in place before Romney.  He signed a bill that improved conditions for gun owners.  Why do people keep spreading lies about this?



How does a permanent ban replacing a temporary ban improve conditions for gun owners??
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 5:47:08 AM EDT
[#10]
Still voting for Romney.
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 5:47:38 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
The Mass AWB was in place before Romney.  He signed a bill that improved conditions for gun owners.  Why do people keep spreading lies about this?


So you're saying that a permanent ban is an improvement?

Great.


OP, you must be new here. The fact that DirectAction moved this topic tells me you posted it in the NRA forum....you really think the NRA wants to talk honestly about Romney's anti-gun record? Ha!

Link Posted: 7/22/2012 5:51:13 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
The Mass AWB was in place before Romney.  He signed a bill that improved conditions for gun owners.  Why do people keep spreading lies about this?


What?
It was a continuation of the Fed bill NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS THE SAME WAS DONE IN NEW YORK AND A FEW OTHERS SHEESH.........
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 5:52:09 AM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 5:52:59 AM EDT
[#14]
Oh My God!

I've been posting on gun boards for fifteen years and no one ever told me about this.

Thank you, OP, thank you.
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 5:54:47 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
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The Mass AWB was in place before Romney.  He signed a bill that improved conditions for gun owners.  Why do people keep spreading lies about this?



How does a permanent ban replacing a temporary ban improve conditions for gun owners??

Uh, the first ban was permanent.  The second one reduced some restrictions.  Check your facts before responding.


Reagan was a gun-banner, too!
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 5:56:24 AM EDT
[#16]
@ the OP

Would you rather have the country/economy totally destroyed by an unAmerican Socialist/Marxis?  Or have the country and economy revived by an imperfect ProAmerican Capitalist?  Unfortunately those are your only choices this time around.
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 5:59:05 AM EDT
[#17]





Quoted:





Quoted:


The Mass AWB was in place before Romney.  He signed a bill that improved conditions for gun owners.  Why do people keep spreading lies about this?

How does a permanent ban replacing a temporary ban improve conditions for gun owners??



There was no expiration date on the 1998 Massachusetts ban –– only wishful thinking that because the definitions in the Mass Ban referenced those in the federal ban that somehow the entire law would disappear when the federal ban expired.  There was no specific "sunset clause" in the Massachusetts law.





Since Massachusetts is a hard-Left, Deep Blue state what would have happened is anti-gun cops and prosecutors would have applied the law to any semi-auto they didn't like, including Minis and 10/22s.  There was zero chance that the 1998 ban would have been invalidated, and a very, very good chance it would become worse.





 
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:00:02 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:

@ the OP

Would you rather have the country/economy totally destroyed by an unAmerican Socialist/Marxist (Obama)?  Or have the country and economy revived by a ProAmerican Capitalist destroyed by a RINO (who'll get much support fromt he right) big-government healthcare crony capitalist (Romney)?  Unfortunately those are your only choices this time around.


Yep.

Those are your choices.
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:00:29 AM EDT
[#19]
Apparently, Romney was supposed to ignore the will of the legislature and the vast majority of the Massachusetts citizens



Same thing we bitch about Obama with Obamacare

Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:01:31 AM EDT
[#20]
black obama scares me, but so does white obama
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:02:46 AM EDT
[#21]
We can own about anything, thing is you need to skirt the rules a bit. True enough anything after 94 can't have a lug or flash suppressor. No big deal. Anything pre 94 is good to go. Yes, the AG has this stupid list on approved handguns but you can bring them in if your moving to MA and sell it and all that. Yup, it's not illegal to ship ammo here either, it's just that companies who do get rousted by again, that asshole AG. It's just all feel good laws. Stupid as it sounds. The thing that's killer is MA is a may issue state. It's really up to your local chief of police to set policies. I live in what's called a red town, which isn't good. According to the licensing officer, it's policy to place restrictions on your carry permit. Unless your a business owner and can prove it or LEO then you get restricted. I like that part, "or LEO", I guess some pigs are better than others and all the animal farm stuff. I'd like a level playing field. We are on our 4th Chief since my last renewal. One was a thief, his replacement was a pervert, not sure about #3. How's that for fair play, and they feel they can judge me. You can only bring them to court for denial, not restrictions. Oh, by the way, I see your in Illinois, also it seems your in Chicago according to your Arfcom name. Hmmmm, glass houses and all that.

JUST EDTA: You mean these?



Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:02:53 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Apparently, Romney was supposed to ignore the will of the legislature and the vast majority of the Massachusetts citizens

Same thing we bitch about Obama with Obamacare


When the majority wants to do something immoral, yes, that is precisely what he is supposed to do.

The fact that you so highly esteem the 'will of the majority' tells me you're ignorant of the evils of democracy.
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:04:04 AM EDT
[#23]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Apparently, Romney was supposed to ignore the will of the legislature and the vast majority of the Massachusetts citizens



Same thing we bitch about Obama with Obamacare





When the majority wants to do something immoral, yes, that is precisely what he is supposed to do.



The fact that you so highly esteem the 'will of the majority' tells me you're ignorant of the evils of democracy.


No governor is a dictator, sir.  Do you know how many vetoes of Romney's have been overturned?



The NRA and GOA supported this bill so away with you...
 
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:04:24 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
We can own about anything, thing is you need to skirt the rules a bit. True enough anything after 94 can't have a lug or flash suppressor. No big deal. Anything pre 94 is good to go. Yes, the AG has this stupid list on approved handguns but you can bring them in if your moving to MA and sell it and all that. Yup, it's not illegal to ship ammo here either, it's just that companies who do get rousted by again, that asshole AG. It's just all feel good laws. Stupid as it sounds. The thing that's killer is MA is a may issue state. It's really up to your local chief of police to set policies. I live in what's called a red town, which isn't good. According to the licensing officer, it's policy to place restrictions on your carry permit. Unless your a business owner and can prove it or LEO then you get restricted. I like that part, "or LEO", I guess some pigs are better than others and all the animal farm stuff. I'd like a level playing field. We are on our 4th Chief since my last renewal. One was a thief, his replacement was a pervert, not sure about #3. How's that for fair play, and they feel they can judge me. You can only bring them to court for denial, not restrictions. Oh, by the way, I see your in Illinois, also it seems your in Chicago according to your Arfcom name. Hmmmm, glass houses and all that.


The part in bold makes it sound as if you've grown quite accustomed to the chains that rest upon you.

Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:05:36 AM EDT
[#25]
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:08:40 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:

@ the OP

Would you rather have the country/economy totally destroyed by an unAmerican Socialist/Marxist (Obama)?  Or have the country and economy revived by a ProAmerican Capitalist destroyed by a RINO (who'll get much support fromt he right) big-government healthcare crony capitalist (Romney)?  Unfortunately those are your only choices this time around.


Yep.

Those are your choices.


Speaking as a fellow Libertarian, we need to face reality and campaign for the only candidate with "Real American" values still capable of winning, since Ron Paul isn't really in the running anymore.  

Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:08:48 AM EDT
[#27]
Fucking MOBY's can go suck moist farts from a dead Kennedy's ass .
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:09:36 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Apparently, Romney was supposed to ignore the will of the legislature and the vast majority of the Massachusetts citizens

Same thing we bitch about Obama with Obamacare


When the majority wants to do something immoral, yes, that is precisely what he is supposed to do.

The fact that you so highly esteem the 'will of the majority' tells me you're ignorant of the evils of democracy.

No governor is a dictator, sir.  Do you know how many vetoes of Romney's have been overturned?

The NRA and GOA supported this bill so away with you...


 


Did the NRA support this:




Your boy Mittens ahsn't done a single thing to truly align himself with the pro-gun movement. All he has done is to not talk of his past record and let you bunch of wishful thinkers convince yourself that he CAN change.....the delusion is so deep with you guys that you're already comparing how he COULD change to how reagan DID change.....yet Romney hasn't said a thing to make ANY sane person think he was in the pro-gun camp.


It's hilarious to watch you guys desperately trying to convince us (or maybe you're trying to convince yourselves!) that Romney is pro-gun.

Quod volumus, facile credimus.

Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:11:43 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Quoted:
We can own about anything, thing is you need to skirt the rules a bit. True enough anything after 94 can't have a lug or flash suppressor. No big deal. Anything pre 94 is good to go. Yes, the AG has this stupid list on approved handguns but you can bring them in if your moving to MA and sell it and all that. Yup, it's not illegal to ship ammo here either, it's just that companies who do get rousted by again, that asshole AG. It's just all feel good laws. Stupid as it sounds. The thing that's killer is MA is a may issue state. It's really up to your local chief of police to set policies. I live in what's called a red town, which isn't good. According to the licensing officer, it's policy to place restrictions on your carry permit. Unless your a business owner and can prove it or LEO then you get restricted. I like that part, "or LEO", I guess some pigs are better than others and all the animal farm stuff. I'd like a level playing field. We are on our 4th Chief since my last renewal. One was a thief, his replacement was a pervert, not sure about #3. How's that for fair play, and they feel they can judge me. You can only bring them to court for denial, not restrictions. Oh, by the way, I see your in Illinois, also it seems your in Chicago according to your Arfcom name. Hmmmm, glass houses and all that.


The part in bold makes it sound as if you've grown quite accustomed to the chains that rest upon you.



Think so? Not really. Just a shit sandwich I have to deal with for a few more years.

Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:16:37 AM EDT
[#30]



Quoted:



Quoted:

because the citizens of that State support it.....




and the 2A citizens are becoming outnumbered as a country


It started when they banned shooting sports in schools and college



 
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:31:55 AM EDT
[#31]
The time to settle this was in the primaries.  Now it's time to vote against Obama.  
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:32:43 AM EDT
[#32]
was this shit posted in the technical forum?
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:38:13 AM EDT
[#33]





Quoted:



We can own about anything, thing is you need to skirt the rules a bit. True enough anything after 94 can't have a lug or flash suppressor. No big deal. Anything pre 94 is good to go. Yes, the AG has this stupid list on approved handguns but you can bring them in if your moving to MA and sell it and all that. Yup, it's not illegal to ship ammo here either, it's just that companies who do get rousted by again, that asshole AG. It's just all feel good laws. Stupid as it sounds. The thing that's killer is MA is a may issue state. It's really up to your local chief of police to set policies. I live in what's called a red town, which isn't good. According to the licensing officer, it's policy to place restrictions on your carry permit. Unless your a business owner and can prove it or LEO then you get restricted. I like that part, "or LEO", I guess some pigs are better than others and all the animal farm stuff. I'd like a level playing field. We are on our 4th Chief since my last renewal. One was a thief, his replacement was a pervert, not sure about #3. How's that for fair play, and they feel they can judge me. You can only bring them to court for denial, not restrictions. Oh, by the way, I see your in Illinois, also it seems your in Chicago according to your Arfcom name. Hmmmm, glass houses and all that.





JUST EDTA: You mean these?





http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn82/Taipan01/AK-1.jpg





http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn82/Taipan01/P1010285.jpg



If what you describe is considered a "win" to you, or even remotely acceptable as your post would certainly imply, you need to get out of MA more often and actually visit a free state.





Wow.





 
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:39:50 AM EDT
[#34]
Thats why we all need to worry MORE about electing good senators and congressmen in both the state house and federal level.

Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:41:32 AM EDT
[#35]
States rights.
 
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:42:21 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
The Mass AWB was in place before Romney.  He signed a bill that improved conditions for gun owners.  Why do people keep spreading lies about this?


Obama fifth columnists
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:46:33 AM EDT
[#37]
oh Snap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Explain those Pualists, Explain them
Quoted:
We can own about anything, thing is you need to skirt the rules a bit. True enough anything after 94 can't have a lug or flash suppressor. No big deal. Anything pre 94 is good to go. Yes, the AG has this stupid list on approved handguns but you can bring them in if your moving to MA and sell it and all that. Yup, it's not illegal to ship ammo here either, it's just that companies who do get rousted by again, that asshole AG. It's just all feel good laws. Stupid as it sounds. The thing that's killer is MA is a may issue state. It's really up to your local chief of police to set policies. I live in what's called a red town, which isn't good. According to the licensing officer, it's policy to place restrictions on your carry permit. Unless your a business owner and can prove it or LEO then you get restricted. I like that part, "or LEO", I guess some pigs are better than others and all the animal farm stuff. I'd like a level playing field. We are on our 4th Chief since my last renewal. One was a thief, his replacement was a pervert, not sure about #3. How's that for fair play, and they feel they can judge me. You can only bring them to court for denial, not restrictions. Oh, by the way, I see your in Illinois, also it seems your in Chicago according to your Arfcom name. Hmmmm, glass houses and all that.

JUST EDTA: You mean these?

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn82/Taipan01/AK-1.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn82/Taipan01/P1010285.jpg


Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:49:41 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
because the citizens of that State support it.....


Not all.
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:53:19 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
old news.



LMAO..someone from Illinois bitching about Massachusetts gun laws.
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:54:46 AM EDT
[#40]
Politicians say anything to get elected

Do whatever their masters tell them to do once they have been

Link Posted: 7/22/2012 6:57:37 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
The Mass AWB was in place before Romney.  He signed a bill that improved conditions for gun owners.  Why do people keep spreading lies about this?



How does a permanent ban replacing a temporary ban improve conditions for gun owners??

There was no expiration date on the 1998 Massachusetts ban –– only wishful thinking that because the definitions in the Mass Ban referenced those in the federal ban that somehow the entire law would disappear when the federal ban expired.  There was no specific "sunset clause" in the Massachusetts law.

Since Massachusetts is a hard-Left, Deep Blue state what would have happened is anti-gun cops and prosecutors would have applied the law to any semi-auto they didn't like, including Minis and 10/22s.  There was zero chance that the 1998 ban would have been invalidated, and a very, very good chance it would become worse.
 

Good thing you're not a lawyer. If you were your clients would probably end up being exectuted for parking tickets.
Criminal statutes are strictly construed against the state.
"...anti-gun cops and prosecutors..." can't apply the law to anything they don't like. Without definitions, the law would have been unconstitutionally vague and therefore unenforcable.
Unlike you, the anti-gun cops, prosecutors and politicians knew this. THAT'S THE REASON THE LAW WAS AMENDED.
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 7:00:10 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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The Mass AWB was in place before Romney.  He signed a bill that improved conditions for gun owners.  Why do people keep spreading lies about this?



How does a permanent ban replacing a temporary ban improve conditions for gun owners??

Uh, the first ban was permanent.  The second one reduced some restrictions.  Check your facts before responding.



Oh look, Romney threw some crumbs of freedom back to his constituents in special thanks for buying his healthcare program. I don't give a fuck what he signed, the people in Massachusetts have less freedom than just about anywhere else in NORTH AMERICA- yet ROMNEY was in charge of that. He could have made real changes but he doesn't give a shit about rights or the Constitution, he only cares about getting elected. You guys go knock yourselves out and support your anti-gun, pro forced healthcare candidate. I'm sitting this election out. Get a real true Conservative to run and then maybe they'll deserve my vote. Until then, let the country suck it.


Link Posted: 7/22/2012 7:02:07 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
States rights.  


2nd Amendment was incorporated to apply to states and localities by the recent McDonald case, and as far as I'm concerned has always applied to the states.

Anyway, I was a MA resident and heavily involved in gun politics there in 1998. The state AWB was enacted then, well before Romney. Its language had no sunset provision.
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 7:09:11 AM EDT
[#44]
Someone In Illinois is Bitching about a law banning all Assasult weapons that was signed and put in place by Romney in Massachusetts?  This makes you Laugh your Ass off?  Well in Illinois I can have and own as many assasult weapons as I want, there is no ban here.  Now evey time I hear ANY gun news its "Obama is going to take and ban your guns" signed NRA,FOX, Rush, Palin, Any Republican, any "TEA PARTY".....So this is/was news to me, first I've seen of it.  So I posted it here because again all anyone hears is Obama is going to ban and kick your door in and take your guns, all while the only one that as a fact has passed any law that says NO guns is Mitt Romney!...So it was very shocking to me to hear/see this because this is the GUY we are told to vote for, because he will not touch our guns......
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 7:11:50 AM EDT
[#45]
This topic is new and exciting.  OP, you surely are brilliant.
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 7:13:32 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
States rights.  


The US Constitution should , rightfully , trump State's Rights .
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 7:16:22 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:



......... Tealiban.....





Goodbye .


* c l i c k *
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 7:19:05 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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The Mass AWB was in place before Romney.  He signed a bill that improved conditions for gun owners.  Why do people keep spreading lies about this?



How does a permanent ban replacing a temporary ban improve conditions for gun owners??

Uh, the first ban was permanent.  The second one reduced some restrictions.  Check your facts before responding.



Oh look, Romney threw some crumbs of freedom back to his constituents in special thanks for buying his healthcare program. I don't give a fuck what he signed, the people in Massachusetts have less freedom than just about anywhere else in NORTH AMERICA- yet ROMNEY was in charge of that. He could have made real changes but he doesn't give a shit about rights or the Constitution, he only cares about getting elected. You guys go knock yourselves out and support your anti-gun, pro forced healthcare candidate. I'm sitting this election out. Get a real true Conservative to run and then maybe they'll deserve my vote. Until then, let the country suck it.




Granted I am not happy with Romney being picked to represent the republican party but he is better than Obama.
Picking between these two is like deciding if I want to get punched in the face(Romney)or kicked in the balls(Obama).
I will take the punch in the face.

Your attitude is childish and counter productive.
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 7:19:38 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Someone In Illinois is Bitching about a law banning all Assasult weapons that was signed and put in place by Romney in Massachusetts?  This makes you Laugh your Ass off?  Well in Illinois I can have and own as many assasult weapons as I want, there is no ban here.  Now evey time I hear ANY gun news its "Obama is going to take and ban your guns" signed NRA,FOX, Rush, Palin, Any Republican, any Tealiban.....So this is/was news to me, first I've seen of it.  So I posted it here because again all anyone hears is Obama is going to ban and kick your door in and take your guns, all while the only one that as a fact has passed any law that says NO guns is Mitt Romney!...So it was very shocking to me to hear/see this because this is the GUY we are told to vote for, because he will not touch our guns......




How's that conceal carry working out for you?  

I know plenty of folks in Mass with ARs and AKs.  Is it an ideal situation, fuck no, but it worked for the state at the time.  Not defending it as I think the restrictions are retarded, but it is what it is.

Now, I have to do some shopping for the new place.  I have to decide what I want to carry today as my Mass Class A LTC provides me reciprocity here.

ETA:  and what the fuck is that part in red about?
Link Posted: 7/22/2012 7:20:03 AM EDT
[#50]
democrats
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