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Posted: 4/16/2012 5:03:29 AM EDT
I `m going to Alaska fishing and the wife is really concerned due to the remote locations ( heli-fishing) we will be accessing. I must admit I have a little bit of concern as well.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:05:27 AM EDT
[#1]
Pfft, if you would have watched "grizzly man", except the end, then you would know that grizzlies just want to hug and snuggle you, that's all.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:06:32 AM EDT
[#2]
.22 to the eye.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:06:43 AM EDT
[#3]
.454
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:07:24 AM EDT
[#4]
this should work

Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:09:02 AM EDT
[#5]
No gun, just make sure I can run faster than the other people around me.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:09:11 AM EDT
[#6]
.22 to your friends leg. Then run like hell.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:09:39 AM EDT
[#7]
20MM HE?
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:11:16 AM EDT
[#8]
Sorry, you are not going to stop a charging Grizzly at 20 yards.

Any weapon that MIGHT save your ass is such a situation is too expensive and too difficult to master in the time frame you have. (Start at .416 and work your way up)

Now, I have fished Alaska a lot. I  Carryied a .44 mag with 300gr hardcast or copper bonded  bullets, a LARGE can of bear spray and an awareness of where you are.  (Stay away from thick brush, any bear with cubs, etc)  

The guide usually carried a .44, pepper spray and a 12 ga with slugs.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:12:07 AM EDT
[#9]
M388
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:12:12 AM EDT
[#10]
7mm Lebel

So you can drop it and run.  
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:12:21 AM EDT
[#11]
For a nice compact gun I would go with the Marlin 1895 guide gun in 45-70.  The receivers on those are built like a mofo so you can load those 45-70's with the 500 grain projectiles. It kicks like a SOB but you'll take care of the bear for sure.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:12:28 AM EDT
[#12]
Arfcom says 9 mm will do the trick, as long as you have enough rounds.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:12:39 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Sorry, you are not going to stop a charging Grizzly at 20 yards.



Obviously you have never seen this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAD7nFPPr60
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:13:08 AM EDT
[#14]
At that range, I'd want a full auto shotgun.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:13:12 AM EDT
[#15]
3 rounds of .000 buck = dead bear at your feet.  This would be the TRUE test of stand your ground.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:14:20 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
7mm Lebel

So you can drop it and run.  


ZZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:14:27 AM EDT
[#17]
Hahahah! Good luck with that. Hope you can put at least one medium bore rifle round in the bear so it dies shortly after you do.

I think bear spray would be the best option in that scenario.

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Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:14:33 AM EDT
[#18]
You are going to need a head shot with something STOUT.



12G slug, .500 S&W, .454 etc.



.


 
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:16:05 AM EDT
[#19]
M203  40mm HE
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:16:46 AM EDT
[#20]
I would think a 12 ga loaded with slugs would be a good choice in that scenario.

or a 45-70 guide gun.

However, best solution is to not get into that situation.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:16:57 AM EDT
[#21]
470 NE double Rifle

When you have to be sure, go African
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:17:19 AM EDT
[#22]
Pepper spray, seriously
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:19:00 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sorry, you are not going to stop a charging Grizzly at 20 yards.



Obviously you have never seen this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAD7nFPPr60



Obviously, you have no experience in the matter.

Why do people whose only contact with bears come from a Disney cartoon think they have a clue
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:21:06 AM EDT
[#24]
Bird shot should work. You dont want to kill it, just turn it.

Your gona want a major caliber rifle. 500 nitro or or something. I would look at what the dangerous game hunters in africa use.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:21:09 AM EDT
[#25]
Of the guns in my safe, I'd take the 45.70 guide gun. I'd also borrow one of my fathers magnum revolvers and holster it. Probably too much, but if remote, I'd be cautious.

ETA- don't be foolish like a good buddy of mine and not practice. One in their party was attacked and got a friendly bite from a mother grizzly.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:21:48 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Sorry, you are not going to stop a charging Grizzly at 20 yards.



Obviously you have never seen this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAD7nFPPr60



Obviously, you have no experience in the matter.

Why do people whose only contact with bears come from a Disney cartoon think they have a clue


You get charged regularly at 20 yards by grizzlies?

Obviously, you have no sense of humor.

Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:21:58 AM EDT
[#27]





Quoted:



Sorry, you are not going to stop a charging Grizzly at 20 yards.





Any weapon that MIGHT save your ass is such a situation is too expensive and too difficult to master in the time frame you have. (Start at .416 and work your way up)





Now, I have fished Alaska a lot. I  Carryied a .44 mag with 300gr hardcast or copper bonded  bullets, a LARGE can of bear spray and an awareness of where you are.  (Stay away from thick brush, any bear with cubs, etc)  





The guide usually carried a .44, pepper spray and a 12 ga with slugs.




You mean exactly like this guy?





 
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:22:32 AM EDT
[#28]
870 with Brennekes or a 45/70 guide gun loaded with buffalo bores
 
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:23:58 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
I would think a 12 ga loaded with slugs would be a good choice in that scenario.

or a 45-70 guide gun.

However, best solution is to not get into that situation.


That would be my pick.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:24:39 AM EDT
[#30]
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:24:50 AM EDT
[#31]
Real guides in AK carry 12ga slugs.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:25:37 AM EDT
[#32]

460 S&W Magnum

Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:26:20 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Arfcom says 9 mm will do the trick, as long as you have enough rounds.


A Glock 18 with a few 33 rounds magazines should do the trick.  You have to make each bullet hit the same spot though
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:26:49 AM EDT
[#34]
I grew up working on a exotic wildlife refuge. We had several bears and whenever we had to tranquilize and move one someone was always standing by with a Double Barrel .500 Nitro Express. Bears are not cute and cuddly when they are pissed. They were actually more dangerous to work around then the big cats.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:28:15 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Sorry, you are not going to stop a charging Grizzly at 20 yards.

Any weapon that MIGHT save your ass is such a situation is too expensive and too difficult to master in the time frame you have. (Start at .416 and work your way up)

Now, I have fished Alaska a lot. I  Carryied a .44 mag with 300gr hardcast or copper bonded  bullets, a LARGE can of bear spray and an awareness of where you are.  (Stay away from thick brush, any bear with cubs, etc)  

The guide usually carried a .44, pepper spray and a 12 ga with slugs.

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv72/gearchecker/just%20stuff/abear2.jpg


Backstory?

You mean exactly like this guy?
 


Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:29:32 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
20MM HE?


yep. crew-served is the only option.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:30:55 AM EDT
[#37]

My friend Steve XXXXXXXX and I were duck hunting yesterday (10/08/11) in Portage Valley (Alaska) and we were attacked by a brown bear. We are both OK but we killed the brown bear within 10 feet of our duck boat blind. This is one of those stories where you are just glad to be alive to tell it. I have lived in Alaska for over 25 years and been around bears but never thought I would encounter one in my blind while duck hunting. I have provided a brief description of what happened below.



We had a small bull moose run about 10 feet behind our duck boat blind. We heard some grass rustling and thought it was another moose, but then we see a brown bear following the trail of the moose. When the bear gets about 20 feet from our blind he looks up and sees us and heads right toward the front of the blind where I am sitting. I fired 3 rounds (3" #4 shot) into the bear at point blank range. My friend says I fired my last round when the bear was 2 feet away. He goes on to say that my head and the bears head were 2 feet apart at one point. After firing my third round, I dove away from the bear and out of the blind and my friend Steve fires 3 rounds (3.5" #4 shot) into his head that sends the bear to the front of the boat on the ground about 10 feet away. Steve reloads as the bear is doing the death spin. He puts 3 more rounds into the bear. I get up, reload, and fire 3 more rounds into the bear. The bear isn't moving at this point in time.



Neither of us was hurt (not a scratch). We we were just scared shitless. We had 2 dogs with us. The older dog (Mynx) was out of the blind with hackles up about 20 feet away from the bear. The young (5 months) dog (Lulu) was hidden under one of the chairs in the boat, She was shaking and wouldn't come out for awhile. On a side note, we got one duck (a gadwall).





Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:31:19 AM EDT
[#38]
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:31:29 AM EDT
[#39]



Quoted:



Quoted:

20MM HE?




yep. crew-served is the only option.


Well, there IS the Anzio.



 
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:33:13 AM EDT
[#40]
I'd say if he's charging then an RPG wouldn't be too big to suit me.  



If you've gotten yourself to the point where you have convinced the bear that charging you is the best plan of action for the afternoon then I'm going to say you've probably already failed.  Situational awareness and a plan for dealing with food and food scraps would probably be your best defense.  



Having said that I have a buddy with a S&W .500 that is an absolute ball to shoot.  That is a perfect excuse for buying one, if you need an excuse.


 
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:34:30 AM EDT
[#41]
By strict reading of the above, and interpreting your wife's concerns,








I am thinking she wants you to buy a keltec ksg



















 
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:38:12 AM EDT
[#42]
Another option would be to keep a wolverine in a backpack with you.



Wolverines are the Alaskan version of a honey badger.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:39:39 AM EDT
[#43]
Guys, I should have mentioned that the guide WILL have a 12 gauge. I was asking about a PISTOL round. The 20 yard comment was a worst case scenario. I do understand the situational awareness angle as well as the bear spray bit.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:39:56 AM EDT
[#44]
A tub of butter and a fat friend.  Slap the butter on the friend and RUN!
 
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:40:13 AM EDT
[#45]
.50 BMG
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:43:30 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Guys, I should have mentioned that the guide WILL have a 12 gauge. I was asking about a PISTOL round. The 20 yard comment was a worst case scenario. I do understand the situational awareness angle as well as the bear spray bit.


Pro tip: Edit your thread title and put "pistol" in front of round.

Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:50:29 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Another option would be to keep a wolverine in a backpack with you.

Wolverines are the Alaskan version of a honey badger.


On coke.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:52:05 AM EDT
[#48]
20 yards and closing?  A pike.
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:53:18 AM EDT
[#49]



Quoted:


Guys, I should have mentioned that the guide WILL have a 12 gauge. I was asking about a PISTOL round. The 20 yard comment was a worst case scenario. I do understand the situational awareness angle as well as the bear spray bit.


Oh well in that case...







 
Link Posted: 4/16/2012 5:56:19 AM EDT
[#50]
Pepperspray FTW!

Wait. What?

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