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Posted: 10/27/2010 7:17:28 AM EDT
Going to be shipped to me tomorrow...Hope to get by this weekend....Now I need more mags....Already have 27 mixed 30rd mags (and 1 Beta C-Mag) loaded....

Maybe one day while I'm bored outta my mind I'll unload all my mags and take a pic....Then put my son to work loading them all back up....

Hopefully I didnt pay to much for the 2700rds....

edited:  Federal XM855F3
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 2:43:44 AM EDT
[#1]
hope you didnt pay to much for that stuff......think there were some reports that its not to good.......I would have ordered privi M855 or the isreali IMI M855
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 6:11:12 AM EDT
[#2]
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hope you didnt pay to much for that stuff......think there were some reports that its not to good.......I would have ordered privi M855 or the isreali IMI M855


I'm under the impression the bulkback is good to go, its the boxed up LC M855 oin the market now that you need to watch out for.

At any rate, its not that latest crop of Hirtenbirger ...
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 7:23:23 AM EDT
[#3]
I have ~5000 SS109 heads
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 7:24:40 AM EDT
[#4]




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At any rate, its not that latest crop of Hirtenbirger ...




Link Posted: 10/27/2010 7:27:10 AM EDT
[#5]
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I have ~5000 SS109 heads


What is an SS109 head?
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 8:29:39 AM EDT
[#6]
The bullet, not an entire cartridge I am guessing.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 8:39:01 AM EDT
[#7]
So? How much did you pay?





Link Posted: 10/27/2010 8:42:35 AM EDT
[#8]
Ok.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 8:43:53 AM EDT
[#9]
Getting ready for November 3rd?
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 8:46:54 AM EDT
[#10]
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I have ~5000 SS109 heads


What is an SS109 head?


Basically the same projectile as M855.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 8:48:39 AM EDT
[#11]
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I have ~5000 SS109 heads


What is an SS109 head?


Basically the same projectile as M855.


Ah, SS109 bullets.  

I never heard anyone refer to a bullet as a 'head'.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 8:59:37 AM EDT
[#12]



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So? How much did you pay?







Magic 8 Ball predicts - $1153 shipped.



 
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 2:59:00 PM EDT
[#13]
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hope you didnt pay to much for that stuff......think there were some reports that its not to good.......I would have ordered privi M855 or the isreali IMI M855


I'm under the impression the bulkback is good to go, its the boxed up LC M855 oin the market now that you need to watch out for.

At any rate, its not that latest crop of Hirtenbirger ...


Nothing wrong with it, just some dings in the brass.



BIG VERSION
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 3:04:28 PM EDT
[#14]
Where'd you order it from?
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 6:16:09 PM EDT
[#15]
oooooh, super armor penetrating steel penetrator eh?

Why does this stuff give you guys a boner? I can't even shoot it at any of the ranges I goto...the cheaper m193 is OK though.
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 6:20:45 PM EDT
[#16]



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oooooh, super armor penetrating steel penetrator eh?



Why does this stuff give you guys a boner? I can't even shoot it at any of the ranges I goto...the cheaper m193 is OK though.


I hear ya, but I figure that it would be handy to have some around just in case.



 
Link Posted: 10/27/2010 6:33:47 PM EDT
[#17]
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oooooh, super armor penetrating steel penetrator eh?

Why does this stuff give you guys a boner? I can't even shoot it at any of the ranges I goto...the cheaper m193 is OK though.



 
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 2:56:41 AM EDT
[#18]
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hope you didnt pay to much for that stuff......think there were some reports that its not to good.......I would have ordered privi M855 or the isreali IMI M855


I'm under the impression the bulkback is good to go, its the boxed up LC M855 oin the market now that you need to watch out for.

At any rate, its not that latest crop of Hirtenbirger ...


Nothing wrong with it, just some dings in the brass.

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/998/p1100552.jpg

BIG VERSION





thats the stuff.......had some for sale at a local fun shop, came and asked what everyone thought.......it got horrible reviews, its basically scraps or bottom of the barrel stuff......lots of dents, accuracy was for crap, underpowered, and rounds not going off.......sorry like I said the response was far from favorable enough to make me not buy any......basically its plinking ammo only

Link Posted: 10/28/2010 3:45:42 AM EDT
[#19]
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oooooh, super armor penetrating steel penetrator eh?

Why does this stuff give you guys a boner? I can't even shoot it at any of the ranges I goto...the cheaper m193 is OK though.



 


Wayward steel + rock = spark
Spark + brush = bad times

The odds of it actually happening are pretty low, but the odds of brass sparking are zero.
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 4:40:36 AM EDT
[#20]
Widener's has the Isreali M855 (62gr.) on sale for $399/1200 and M193 (55gr.) at $388/1200

I wouldn't buy American Eagle or Federal as I reload and the primer pockets are often loose and the flashhole with AE are often off center.

Your opinion my be different so buy what you want, just sayin' in case you reload or sell your brass cuz' reloaders I know won't touch the Fed/AE stuff.

BTW, last I heard LC is now being made by Federal so I wouldn't be surprised if quality goes down if that is indeed the case (no pun intended.)

YMMV

ETA: PMC ROCKS!!!
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 4:57:01 AM EDT
[#21]
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I have ~5000 SS109 heads


What is an SS109 head?


Basically the same projectile as M855.


Ah, SS109 bullets.  

I never heard anyone refer to a bullet as a 'head'.


Case head.
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 7:17:33 AM EDT
[#22]
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hope you didnt pay to much for that stuff......think there were some reports that its not to good.......I would have ordered privi M855 or the isreali IMI M855


I'm under the impression the bulkback is good to go, its the boxed up LC M855 oin the market now that you need to watch out for.

At any rate, its not that latest crop of Hirtenbirger ...


Nothing wrong with it, just some dings in the brass.

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/998/p1100552.jpg

BIG VERSION





thats the stuff.......had some for sale at a local fun shop, came and asked what everyone thought.......it got horrible reviews, its basically scraps or bottom of the barrel stuff......lots of dents, accuracy was for crap, underpowered, and rounds not going off.......sorry like I said the response was far from favorable enough to make me not buy any......basically its plinking ammo only



The bad batch was the one from ammunitiontogo, all others are fine.

Here is a little comparison, this XM855 is from ammunitiontogo.





Link Posted: 10/28/2010 8:31:57 AM EDT
[#23]
Very happy for you.  Thanks for letting us know.
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 8:38:14 AM EDT
[#24]
M855 is the designation for the loaded cartridge

SS109 is the designation for the projectile used in M855 Ball
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 8:48:02 AM EDT
[#25]
Cool. How much did'ya pay?
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 9:01:17 AM EDT
[#26]
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M855 is the designation for the loaded cartridge

SS109 is the designation for the projectile used in M855 Ball


I believe there are slight differences in ss109 and m855 projectile dimensions.
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 9:03:16 AM EDT
[#27]
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M855 is the designation for the loaded cartridge

SS109 is the designation for the projectile used in M855 Ball


I believe there are slight differences in ss109 and m855 projectile dimensions.


I "THINK" the bullet is the same
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 9:11:16 AM EDT
[#28]
so are greentips junk? I thought the PPU M855 where good to go?
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 9:14:42 AM EDT
[#29]
I stand corrected....after a wee bit of research that i should have done before I posted, SS109 is the FN cartridge M855 was derived from....not a projectile
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 9:27:19 AM EDT
[#30]
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M855 is the designation for the loaded cartridge

SS109 is the designation for the projectile used in M855 Ball


I believe there are slight differences in ss109 and m855 projectile dimensions.


I "THINK" the bullet is the same


There is a picture floating around somewhere comparing the dimensions and there are very slight differences such as the slope of the boat tail, etc...
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 9:27:49 AM EDT
[#31]
SS109 is the designation for the 62 grain bullet with penetrator in the center of the bullet.
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 9:29:28 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
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M855 is the designation for the loaded cartridge

SS109 is the designation for the projectile used in M855 Ball


I believe there are slight differences in ss109 and m855 projectile dimensions.


I "THINK" the bullet is the same


There is a picture floating around somewhere comparing the dimensions and there are very slight differences such as the slope of the boat tail, etc...


Is the secant or ogive different from mil-spec? Or is the general profile different?
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 9:42:02 AM EDT
[#33]
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SS109 is the designation for the 62 grain bullet with penetrator in the center of the bullet.


That's what I thought also.....if true, most of the faqs on the internet are wrong. Wouldn't be the first time I've seen that either
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 9:46:31 AM EDT
[#34]
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Just ordered 2700rds of 5.56mm 62gr steel penetrator


Just picked up 6K+ rds 5.45x39 Russian @ $0.11/rd and 1K rds 7.61x51 DAG @ $0.39/rd yesterday.  That stuff is heavy!  Got it all at AIM.

Link Posted: 10/28/2010 10:03:42 AM EDT
[#35]
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I have ~5000 SS109 heads


What is an SS109 head?


Basically the same projectile as M855.


Ah, SS109 bullets.  

I never heard anyone refer to a bullet as a 'head'.


If you were a Tier One player like that guy you'd know what he meant...
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 10:59:59 AM EDT
[#36]
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I have ~5000 SS109 heads


What is an SS109 head?


Basically the same projectile as M855.


Ah, SS109 bullets.  

I never heard anyone refer to a bullet as a 'head'.


Case head.


Dude,

Case head refers to the bottom of the case where the primer sits.

Check the glossary here


Head - The base of a cartridge case that contains the primer, rim, extracting grove, and headstamp.
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 11:04:42 AM EDT
[#37]
A lot of the federal bulk has case dings. But it seems to shoot OK.
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 11:09:04 AM EDT
[#38]
Lots of WTF going on in this thread.

M855 is good ammo, but not as effective on soft targets as the M193. If you want to be really badass you can load a mag alternating the two.

The 77 gr Mk262 is the shiz though.
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 2:17:28 PM EDT
[#39]
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So? How much did you pay?




$70...shipped
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 2:49:52 PM EDT
[#40]
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M855 is the designation for the loaded cartridge

SS109 is the designation for the projectile used in M855 Ball


Hmm.. I think SS109 was original NATO number

Link Posted: 10/28/2010 2:52:07 PM EDT
[#41]
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So? How much did you pay?




$70...shipped


What $70.00 is that a miss type
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 2:59:04 PM EDT
[#42]




Quoted:

hope you didnt pay to much for that stuff......think there were some reports that its not to good.......I would have ordered privi M855 or the isreali IMI M855




I got 2000 rounds of it lose packed from Palmetto a couple of months ago. 2- 1000 round boxes.  So far I have shot about 600 rounds of it with no issues yet.
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 3:01:56 PM EDT
[#43]



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So? How much did you pay?

$70...shipped
What $70.00 is that a miss type


Even $700 would be a good deal right now



 
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 6:35:31 PM EDT
[#44]
No, I paid $70 (Seventy US Dollars)....
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 6:40:29 PM EDT
[#45]



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Widener's has the Isreali M855 (62gr.) on sale for $399/1200 and M193 (55gr.) at $388/1200



I wouldn't buy American Eagle or Federal as I reload and the primer pockets are often loose and the flashhole with AE are often off center.



Your opinion my be different so buy what you want, just sayin' in case you reload or sell your brass cuz' reloaders I know won't touch the Fed/AE stuff.



BTW, last I heard LC is now being made by Federal so I wouldn't be surprised if quality goes down if that is indeed the case (no pun intended.)



YMMV



ETA: PMC ROCKS!!!
LC is run by ATK, Alliant Tech Systems, which owns





  • Federal Premium and Estate Cartridge ammunition

  • CCI, Speer, Lawman, and Blazer ammunition

  • Gunslick, Outers and Shooters Ridge gun care and shooting accessories

  • RCBS reloading equipment

  • Champion clay targets

  • Weaver optics and mounting systems

  • Alliant Powder gun powders for sporting re-loaders and ammunition manufacturers

  • Eagle Industries law enforcement tactical accessories

  • BLACKHAWK! tactical, military, shooting sports, and law enforcement equipment





 
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 6:41:05 PM EDT
[#46]
Pics when they arrive or I call BS!
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 6:44:12 PM EDT
[#47]
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Pics when they arrive or I call BS!


.....Of the order and the invoice!
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 6:45:21 PM EDT
[#48]
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No, I paid $70 (Seventy US Dollars)....


Link Posted: 10/28/2010 6:48:19 PM EDT
[#49]
Not too long ago you could buy 2700 rounds of south african surplus for under $300.
Link Posted: 10/28/2010 6:48:22 PM EDT
[#50]



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No, I paid $70 (Seventy US Dollars)....




And I'll add





 
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