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Posted: 5/5/2021 9:14:57 AM EDT
Taliban insurgents captured a district in northern Afghanistan, forcing government troops to retreat to the provincial capital amid a recent surge in violence, officials said on Wednesday.

Fighting has escalated sharply in recent weeks, with Afghan officials saying the Taliban have stepped up their attacks since Washington announced plans last month to pull out all U.S. troops by Sept. 11.

The militants seized the district of Barka in the northern province of Baghlan after hours of fighting with Afghan forces, who retreated to the main city, said Jawed Basharat, a spokesman for the provincial police.

https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20210505-taliban-captures-district-in-northern-afghanistan-attacks-increasing-as-us-pulls-out
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:19:19 AM EDT
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It will be spring, 1975 all over again. The whole Afghanistan experience has been Vietnam, the sequel. Politicians wasting lives and treasure.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:20:48 AM EDT
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IDGAF . Let them have at it
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:22:06 AM EDT
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No matter how long we stay, the day we leave it will be like we were never there.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:23:49 AM EDT
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Baghlan would have been a nice place to visit if it wasn't for all the people. And the landmines.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:29:45 AM EDT
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Let me fix this for you....


18Z50
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:32:40 AM EDT
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I had a AirBNB booked for July does that mean I am going to have to cancel ?
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:38:28 AM EDT
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I hate to sow dissent here but playing musical district centers has been the norm for at least 10 years.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:38:43 AM EDT
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ETA: Does this mean Ann-Margret's not coming?
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:41:15 AM EDT
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Not our problem.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:42:11 AM EDT
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"They had Prussians while we backed Bavarians."
-- William Buckley
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:42:42 AM EDT
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Why not at all.  Be sure to hand out bibles too.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:44:02 AM EDT
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Politicians made bank on it.. They came out sitting pretty with all the DoD contracts.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:45:02 AM EDT
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Thanks for nothing loony democrats!
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:45:15 AM EDT
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Get our people out. That shithole was never worth one drop of American blood.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:46:43 AM EDT
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Oh no.  Who could have seen this coming?  If only we could have seen it coming, maybe we could have done something.

Dagnabbit.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 9:49:51 AM EDT
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Captain January will need all his people
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:03:54 AM EDT
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Around 4K (servicemen and US citizen contractors) times four wounded have died or have been wounded and we have spent roughly a trillion.....Not worth it, not even close to being worth it.  

That and the irony is we spent 4 billion to arm the Afghans against the Soviets. How did the .mil/politicians think it was all going to turn out?
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:05:56 AM EDT
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It isn’t called the graveyard of empires for nuthin’
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:07:54 AM EDT
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FATS DOMINO - AIN''T THAT A SHAME 1955
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:09:21 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:11:58 AM EDT
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Is my advice from 10 years ago still stupid.

Issue orders that all Americans will be out in 24 hours.  Make it look like the Berlin Airlift in reverse.

Anything you can’t carry on the plane gets piled up, doused in fuel, lit with WP and bombed after the last plane goes wheels up.

GTFO
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:12:04 AM EDT
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The ROE and politicians are the reason why we didn't win.
We should have went in there and annihilated every trace of the Taliban!
Then, we should have demanded mineral rights as payback for rebuilding their nation.
Our politicians did nothing but play stupid with the terrorists, instead of black bagging their leaders first chance we had.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:12:53 AM EDT
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IDGAF.  Less Fetanyl for us
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:13:06 AM EDT
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oh well
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:13:08 AM EDT
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We should have left in 2003.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:14:45 AM EDT
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We should have went in there and annihilated every trace of the Taliban!
Then, we should have demanded mineral rights as payback for rebuilding their nation.
Our politicians did nothing but play stupid with the terrorists, instead of black bagging their leaders first chance we had.
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The Soviets did not worry about no ROE and got their ass handed to them.....That's called a hint.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:20:55 AM EDT
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Its like when a superpower is neutered and plays for feels and not keeps they won't prevail.

Weird. Shocking.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:24:02 AM EDT
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They got their asses handed to them after the USA started equipping the Mujahideen  with weapons to shoot down Soviet aircraft.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:25:25 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:26:24 AM EDT
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Why were we in that shithole to begin with after we got Bin Laden?
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:29:52 AM EDT
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Its like no one could have predicted this outcome.

Should have just glassed and paved a few valleys 20 years ago.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:31:38 AM EDT
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That has been crystal clear for over a decade.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:33:30 AM EDT
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Not gonna lie, this place looks pretty sweet.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/11860373?adults=1&check_in=2021-06-04&check_out=2021-06-18&source_impression_id=p3_1620225074_FtjAjHjOxhzJXfK6
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:39:13 AM EDT
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I had a AirBNB booked for July does that mean I am going to have to cancel ?

Not gonna lie, this place looks pretty sweet.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/11860373?adults=1&check_in=2021-06-04&check_out=2021-06-18&source_impression_id=p3_1620225074_FtjAjHjOxhzJXfK6

This beautiful modern two bedroom, two bathroom, an idyllic setting with tropical gardens, tranquil beach frontage and breathtaking views of the Caribbean Sea set in the heart of the West Coast of Barbados.

Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:41:47 AM EDT
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Should pull out yesterday.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:46:59 AM EDT
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Seems so.  Will we see a CIA helicopter on the roof of the Embassy?

Bush screwed the pouch with Afghanistan and Iraq.  For Afghanistan, he should have quickly lit off a missile on OSBL, and that blind sheik, then funded the Northern Alliance and let them take over.  Instead, the idiot decides to fund the tribes where the Taliban comes from, and gives them political power to rule the country.  All in the name of "nation building".

Iraq, he should have never invaded.  Shifted the balance of power in the middle east to Iran.  Saddam was right about this.

This nation building strategy is full of crap.  Look at Afganistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria.  Bush, McCain, Obama, Clinton, Biden are the warmonger party.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:51:48 AM EDT
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Old squadron mate of mine flys for state dept over there and it seems that they aren't targets, nor are thesecuirty guys for state dept.  My ex-bro in-law works that side and says they get goo intel.  Hard to know with him though.

I say a random FA bomb for anyone 14 years and older will remind them not to harbor fuckwads from saudi.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 10:53:36 AM EDT
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I told my wife this same thing this morning.  This is Vietnam all over again.  It's a shame, it took us less than 100 years to forget how to fight a war and actually win it.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 11:08:04 AM EDT
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This isn't Vietnam all over again.

There weren't a bunch of Vietnamese hookers and beer for our war. Kandahar is Burqaville. There aren't any service members bringing home droves of Afghan wives to take them to the big PX.

The DOD makes sure to suck any type of fun out of all current wars.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 12:01:28 PM EDT
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This is what I keep saying.

Also, I think the announcements are kind of stupid...

Hey Enemy, sit tight, we are pulling out on 3.2.1...... and go...
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 12:12:46 PM EDT
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If America could not bring Peace in 20yrs.

Let it burn
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 12:15:00 PM EDT
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It's too bad we didn't have the will to kill them to the last man.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 12:15:27 PM EDT
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Had a taxi ride with an ex-pat Afghan last year.  He described the country as filled with bad people.
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 12:18:30 PM EDT
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We had the will but...the ROE and politicians are the reason why we didn't win.
We would have went in there and annihilated every trace of the Taliban had we been allowed to hunt them down without any rules!
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 12:21:16 PM EDT
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Close enough

Guess I should have read it instead of just going off my search results
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 12:24:40 PM EDT
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Gee, who could have ever foreseen this happening?  I mean, anybody who's never heard of the Soviet Union, that is...
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 12:29:21 PM EDT
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I had a AirBNB booked for July does that mean I am going to have to cancel ?

Not gonna lie, this place looks pretty sweet.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/11860373?adults=1&check_in=2021-06-04&check_out=2021-06-18&source_impression_id=p3_1620225074_FtjAjHjOxhzJXfK6

Trip Advisor for AFG
Link Posted: 5/5/2021 12:34:00 PM EDT
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No fucks given.  If we stayed 100 years and lost 99,000 soldiers, the end result would be the same.  If the 'Staines won't defend themselves, fuck them.
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