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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:12:08 PM EDT
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Didn't know they could do that.
Out here if one is union and they go on strike, you can't collect unemployment. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:14:27 PM EDT
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Sounds like a lot, but how many federal employees are in the state?
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:16:05 PM EDT
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Technically they’re not unemployed. Doesn’t make sense. But seeing that it’s Colorado (aka East Commifornia), understandable behavior..
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:16:25 PM EDT
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Sounds like a lot, but how many federal employees are in the state? |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:18:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:19:23 PM EDT
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Technically they’re not unemployed. Doesn’t make sense. But seeing that it’s Colorado (aka East Commifornia), understandable behavior.. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:20:21 PM EDT
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Political pandering doesn't put food on the table or pay the mortgage
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:20:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You repay it back. I know some people that repaid after the last shutdown. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:22:46 PM EDT
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Didn't know they could do that. Out here if one is union and they go on strike, you can't collect unemployment. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:25:46 PM EDT
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That makes sense. I was about to be outraged. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You repay it back. I know some people that repaid after the last shutdown. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:27:08 PM EDT
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A strike is a decision by the employee. A furlough is a decision by the employer. Unemployment (with repayment if there is a pay in retro) is appropriate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Didn't know they could do that. Out here if one is union and they go on strike, you can't collect unemployment. What you said makes sense though. Thanks. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:28:05 PM EDT
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A strike is a decision by the employee. A furlough is a decision by the employer. Unemployment (with repayment if there is a pay in retro) is appropriate. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:29:29 PM EDT
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Small cost to get as many federal employees to leave their jobs as possible thus saving a lifetime of salary
Eventually they will have to find other opportunities |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:29:30 PM EDT
[#14]
denied, next please.
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:32:20 PM EDT
[#15]
Denied. If they do get it, they should reimburse the state if they receive backpay.
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:32:22 PM EDT
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Small cost to get as many federal employees to leave their jobs as possible thus saving a lifetime of salary Eventually they will have to find other opportunities |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:32:40 PM EDT
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denied, next please. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:33:48 PM EDT
[#18]
Amazing what one paycheck can do to people.
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:34:08 PM EDT
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and so it begins
the lawyers smell $blood$ in the waters... |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:36:11 PM EDT
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Amazing what one paycheck can do to people. Those that don't live within their means are foolish. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:37:14 PM EDT
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On what basis? |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:38:40 PM EDT
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On the basis of them still being employed by the federal government, albeit not getting paid at the moment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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On what basis? |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:40:53 PM EDT
[#23]
Isn't that what unemployment is for?
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:40:58 PM EDT
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And someone more worthless will fill that billet. Congratulations, you just made the government even worse and didn’t save any money. Even a generous welfare package for all of them will cost us less And States will fill the void as they take up the tasks that should have been done by the States not the federal government If California wants to hire 1 million paper pushers and I dont have to pay federal tax for it I dont care anymore |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:41:51 PM EDT
[#25]
And their burden on the country continues...
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:43:47 PM EDT
[#26]
Good. Layem all off.
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:43:48 PM EDT
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The average Federal salary is over $70,000 Even a generous welfare package for all of them will cost us less And States will fill the void as they take up the tasks that should have been done by the States not the federal government If California wants to hire 1 million paper pushers and I dont have to pay federal tax for it I dont care anymore Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And someone more worthless will fill that billet. Congratulations, you just made the government even worse and didn’t save any money. Even a generous welfare package for all of them will cost us less And States will fill the void as they take up the tasks that should have been done by the States not the federal government If California wants to hire 1 million paper pushers and I dont have to pay federal tax for it I dont care anymore |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:45:22 PM EDT
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If you are talking about reducing the scale of the federal government I’m all for it. I’m just telling you that you are flat wrong if you think you’ll accomplish it by forcing good employees out while doing nothing to the staffing level, which is not tied to the body and would start a hiring action as soon as the last guy left. I want to force all the employees out I wont get my wish. But I can dream. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:51:03 PM EDT
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Political pandering doesn't put food on the table or pay the mortgage Are you telling me that these people, who make an average of about $70k nationwide, are missing mortgage payments because they missed one paycheck? How do you not have enough cash reserves to cover that? |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:53:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:56:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont want to force good employees out I want to force all the employees out I wont get my wish. But I can dream. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:57:10 PM EDT
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Denied. If they do get it, they should reimburse the state if they receive backpay. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:59:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Federal employees have missed one paycheck. One. Paycheck. Which, by the way, they're going to receive as back-pay once the government is reopened. Are you telling me that these people, who make an average of about $70k nationwide, are missing mortgage payments because they missed one paycheck? How do you not have enough cash reserves to cover that? MOST people in america spend far too much and save far too little. I've known people who make over $100k a year who save practically $0, private sector......I've seen how they live: new everything, save nothing, drink a lot. MOST of america are gluttonous pricks who can't cover 1 month of unemployment if they needed to. The whole government employees suffering thing is overplayed, I agree...but that's a media problem. How many government employees are out there? How many government employees have gone on the record for their suffering? Not nearly as many as the media is claiming, they are just using numbers, not actual accounts because they know most government employees won't speak to them. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 6:59:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont want to force good employees out I want to force all the employees out I wont get my wish. But I can dream. The DoT shouldn’t inspect airline maintenance programs? |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 7:00:13 PM EDT
[#35]
Greeeeeaaaaat
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Posted: 1/19/2019 7:02:51 PM EDT
[#36]
So , millions of Americans filed for it when Obama and the dims shut down the free markets and I might add they got NO BACK PAY.
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Posted: 1/19/2019 7:05:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont want to force good employees out I want to force all the employees out I wont get my wish. But I can dream. let's see, no need for USCG, Air traffic controllers, border patrol or the courts? lol you are a special one alright. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 7:06:19 PM EDT
[#38]
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Didn't know they could do that. Out here if one is union and they go on strike, you can't collect unemployment. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 7:07:48 PM EDT
[#39]
Meh. They can file and get it, but as soon as they get back pay once the shutdown is over, they have to pay the unemployment back. Its really just a no interest loan.
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Posted: 1/19/2019 7:11:32 PM EDT
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Meh. They can file and get it, but as soon as they get back pay once the shutdown is over, they have to pay the unemployment back. Its really just a no interest loan. 
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Posted: 1/19/2019 7:13:49 PM EDT
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Meh. They can file and get it, but as soon as they get back pay once the shutdown is over, they have to pay the unemployment back. Its really just a no interest loan. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 7:18:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, let's see, no need for USCG, Air traffic controllers, border patrol or the courts? lol you are a special one alright. Where they were.... The DOD is the only federal government entity that should exist ATC should be paid by the airports |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 7:24:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: USCG should be back in the DOD as well as border control Where they were.... The DOD is the only federal government entity that should exist ATC should be paid by the airports Someone needs to learn a thing or two before telling people what should be done. USCG...Dept of Treasury, Transportation and DHS...DoD control/ USN when deployed. You can split hairs for here and there with DOD control. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 7:24:26 PM EDT
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USCG should be back in the DOD as well as border control Where they were.... The DOD is the only federal government entity that should exist ATC should be paids by the airports Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: LOL, let's see, no need for USCG, Air traffic controllers, border patrol or the courts? lol you are a special one alright. Where they were.... The DOD is the only federal government entity that should exist ATC should be paids by the airports |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 7:33:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which airports would be paying? How would "airports" fund ATC? How would that help cut bureaucracy? Its easy to get mad at Fed's, seems to be all the rage lately, especially the ones who are doing what most of GD expects them to be doing...I don't think he thought he rant through 
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Posted: 1/19/2019 9:43:31 PM EDT
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Source "More than 2,400 federal employees in Colorado furloughed by the partial government shutdown, including 89 in El Paso County, have filed unemployment insurance claims, state labor officials said Friday. The number of claims increased by nearly 1,000 since furloughed federal employees missed their first paycheck Jan. 11, according to data released Friday by the Colorado Department of Labor and Employment. Nearly two-thirds of those who have filed for unemployment insurance statewide work for the Interior or Agriculture departments, and more than 60 percent are from the Denver area. The 2,416 unemployment insurance claims make up 18.5 percent of the more than 13,000 claims filed since the shutdown began Dec. 21. Those claim numbers don’t include federal employees working without pay, but Gov. Jared Polis on Friday ordered that those workers also be allowed to seek unemployment insurance benefits. “Those federal employees who are required to report for work are feeling the same economic squeeze as those who have been furloughed. They should not be denied the immediate financial assistance provided by unemployment benefits while being mandated to show up for work,” Polis said in a news release." If they get anything pay it back when they get all their back pay from their job. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 6:58:14 AM EDT
[#47]
How many filed for other employment? Not many, they are sitting at home, bitching on the internet knowing that we will end up paying them for not working.
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Posted: 1/20/2019 11:25:26 AM EDT
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How many filed for other employment? Not many, they are sitting at home, bitching on the internet knowing that we will end up paying them for not working. Not bitching, knowing I will get paid. 
If I miss two more PP's, it will sting, then I may bitch. I hope that is acceptable. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 11:29:07 AM EDT
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Im at work. Not bitching, knowing I will get paid.
If I miss two more PP's, it will sting, then I may bitch. I hope that is acceptable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How many filed for other employment? Not many, they are sitting at home, bitching on the internet knowing that we will end up paying them for not working. Not bitching, knowing I will get paid.
If I miss two more PP's, it will sting, then I may bitch. I hope that is acceptable. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 11:39:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: USCG should be back in the DOD as well as border control Where they were.... The DOD is the only federal government entity that should exist ATC should be paid by the airports You really need to read more and post less.  An old saying about seeming ignorant comes to mind.
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