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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:45:38 PM EDT
Really?!
Is today's Ranger equivalent to the normal Infantry 20 years ago? 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5392363/Army-wont-require-recruits-throw-grenade-far-enough.html US Army drops grenade throwing as a requirement to graduate because new recruits can't throw far enough (but do they mean women?) US Army will no longer require recruits to show adequate hand grenade skills Change is being made because many enlistees 'can’t throw it far enough' Recruits also won't be required to pass land navigation course to graduate Army's redesign of Basic Combat Training is aimed at instilling more discipline Army would not comment on whether the specific requirements are particularly a problem for women Many on Twitter used the development to attack influx of female enlistees |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:46:57 PM EDT
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Grenades be heavy you, might break a nail
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:47:33 PM EDT
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Being left handed and throwing a grenade upside down was sketchy at best.
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:48:34 PM EDT
[#3]
Task Force Smith, here we come!!!! |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:49:44 PM EDT
[#4]
 Seriously. It's either this, or cry.
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:50:39 PM EDT
[#5]
JFC what a joke.
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:50:41 PM EDT
[#6]
Great
More lost units And vehicles |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:53:26 PM EDT
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Pathetic. I also heard they quit doing bayonet training a while back. Double pathetic.
Land Nav..why? It isn't that difficult. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:54:02 PM EDT
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Seriously. It's either this, or cry.
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:54:49 PM EDT
[#9]
Land nav?!
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:56:04 PM EDT
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Land nav?! |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:56:13 PM EDT
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It is said the UK is five to ten years ahead of culturally
Looks like our Army is preparing for the same environment as theirs.  UK Army Ad: ‘This is Belonging 2018’. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:56:29 PM EDT
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I'm gonna guess you still go through it in OSUT.
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Posted: 2/14/2018 8:59:46 PM EDT
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who the fuck needs land nav when you have a smartphone?
"OK Google, what's my grid location?"
Well, at least we still have the Marines. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:00:47 PM EDT
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I guess the Army needs ditch diggers too. Hopefully they're handy with a shovel.
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:01:42 PM EDT
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Task Force Smith, here we come!!!! None of which has a damn thing to do with fighting and winning wars (unlike land nav and throwing grenades). Oh, and I'll believe the Army when they say they're reinventing basic training to NOT cater to the snowflakes when I see it. The transition will probably consist of renaming every basic training site some sort of "All-Inclusive Gender Neutral Gay Friendly Training Center of Excellence" bullshit and nothing more. Want to fix the Army? Clean house of the PC corporate managers from the top down so the non-mentally challenged warriors who are serious about their chosen occupation can execute the missions they are tasked with.
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:03:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:04:44 PM EDT
[#17]
You know, Obama's political lawyers at the pentagon were blamed for most of the SJW policies pushed down on the commanders.
You'd think, a year in, there'd have been some turnover and push back. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:05:38 PM EDT
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If you are going to be admin why bother with grenades and land nav.
Not like anyone will remember what to do if they see one again. Probably be more dangerous to people around them than the enemy. Same as land nav. Never use it, will never remember it. Now Combat arms, transportation etc..... is another thing. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:07:00 PM EDT
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Pathetic. I also heard they quit doing bayonet training a while back. Double pathetic. Land Nav..why? It isn't that difficult. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:07:54 PM EDT
[#20]
This shit needs to stop.
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:08:50 PM EDT
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How often are grenades used....
I would have loved to use grenades in Afghanistan... But no one can throw a grenade over a 1 or 2 kilometers to get it near the enemy... |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:09:07 PM EDT
[#22]
And the faggotry continues
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:09:24 PM EDT
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You know, Obama's political lawyers at the pentagon were blamed for most of the SJW policies pushed down on the commanders. You'd think, a year in, there'd have been some turnover and push back. Obama and his advisers didn't hesitate to retire senior military leadership early when they didn't go all-in on his radical reformation of DoD. Trump should do the same. Also, it doesn't help that unelected, radical progressive judges are issuing legal rulings on policy matters within DoD. What a mess. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:09:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:09:58 PM EDT
[#25]
My army is a sad army
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:10:24 PM EDT
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Is this where Chaos steps in and relieves the entire upper echelon of the Army and replaces them with Marine LCpls?
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:10:44 PM EDT
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Pathetic. I also heard they quit doing bayonet training a while back. Double pathetic. Land Nav..why? It isn't that difficult. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:10:50 PM EDT
[#28]
Youth are disinterested in military service despite the smallest Army since WW2 recruiting is struggling. Cyber command is looking like a train wreck and there’s no land nav or grenades over there. Check out the new Cyber Command CO
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:12:14 PM EDT
[#29]
Wow. I went to Army basic training in 1999, and then did Infantry OBC a year later. While I later went infantry, even in my co-ed basic training, we still had grenade training and bayonet training for several days, including a giant bayonet "assault course". That was the highlight event of a week or so of bayonet, grenade, and advancing in buddy movements using blank firing, and we used up dozens and dozens of training grenades each over that time. We must have gone though a few hundred blanks too also over those few days.
The capstone event (bayonet assault) began with a 3 mile road march in the dark, then hitting the assault course by dawn. We ran a pretty extensive loop of obstacles, climbing this, low crawling that, bayonetting a torso every now and then, and tossing a few grenades at various strong points. There was blank firing going on, and speakers to simulate explosions, and when you were done 10 or 15 minutes later, you were covered in mud, out of ammo and tired, and happy to eat your mre breakfast. Good stuff! I'd say it was actually pretty decent training, and everyone did it. Every MOS that went through Fort Jackson at that time, male or female. The later infantry training I had was more rigorous, but for all the jokes that was made about training at Jackson, the basic training was a very good basis when I went through. Now I know that most Army MOS's will not be using grenades, and even some infantry guys in the field right now are no longer issued grenades, but it is just wrong to lose the war-fighter spirit of training by omitting, first bayonets, and now grenades. What makes the green grass grow!!! |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:12:18 PM EDT
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Why doesn't Mattis unscrew this nonsense? I don't get it I guess.
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:12:25 PM EDT
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How often are grenades used.... I would have loved to use grenades in Afghanistan... But no one can throw a grenade over a 1 or 2 kilometers to get it near the enemy... 
Marines used them once or twice, too... 
Pretty sure one was used before they went in... 
You know, you really don't even need to throw grenades for them to be effective... 
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:12:26 PM EDT
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Pathetic. I also heard they quit doing bayonet training a while back. Double pathetic. Land Nav..why? It isn't that difficult. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:12:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The progressive officers really came out of the woodwork after their progressive CiC took the oath of office in January of 2009. Obama and his advisers didn't hesitate to retire senior military leadership early when they didn't go all-in on his radical reformation of DoD. Trump should do the same. Also, it doesn't help that unelected, radical progressive judges are issuing legal rulings on policy matters within DoD. What a mess. 
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:13:03 PM EDT
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Land Nav..why? It isn't that difficult. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:13:17 PM EDT
[#35]
those fat lunch lady arms from Shaquisha won't do it anymore
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:13:19 PM EDT
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No bayonet training?? How will the grass grow?? |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:13:40 PM EDT
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My army is a sad army It's a culture war within the Army, and you can take heart in that not everyone that wears OCP is buying into this retarded insanity. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:14:04 PM EDT
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I guess the Army needs ditch diggers too. Hopefully they're handy with a shovel. This shit is pathetic. I wonder if China's troops are weak faggots who can't move, bayonet, and throw? Instead of correcting the problem and doing your fucking job (ARMY) and training them they just quit doing it? |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:14:34 PM EDT
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You know, Obama's political lawyers at the pentagon were blamed for most of the SJW policies pushed down on the commanders. You'd think, a year in, there'd have been some turnover and push back. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:14:39 PM EDT
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If you are going to be admin why bother with grenades and land nav. Not like anyone will remember what to do if they see one again. Probably be more dangerous to people around them than the enemy. Same as land nav. Never use it, will never remember it. Now Combat arms, transportation etc..... is another thing. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:14:57 PM EDT
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I'm afraid so. Instead of young soldiers neglecting training because they're more focused on geisha houses and occupation duty, they'll be focused on transgender / homosexual sensitivity, and female gender inclusiveness in combat arms. None of which has a damn thing to do with fighting and winning wars (unlike land nav and throwing grenades). Oh, and I'll believe the Army when they say they're reinventing basic training to NOT cater to the snowflakes when I see it. The transition will probably consist of renaming every basic training site some sort of "All-Inclusive Gender Neutral Gay Friendly Training Center of Excellence" bullshit and nothing more. Want to fix the Army? Clean house of the PC corporate managers from the top down so the non-mentally challenged warriors who are serious about their chosen occupation can execute the missions they are tasked with. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Task Force Smith, here we come!!!! None of which has a damn thing to do with fighting and winning wars (unlike land nav and throwing grenades). Oh, and I'll believe the Army when they say they're reinventing basic training to NOT cater to the snowflakes when I see it. The transition will probably consist of renaming every basic training site some sort of "All-Inclusive Gender Neutral Gay Friendly Training Center of Excellence" bullshit and nothing more. Want to fix the Army? Clean house of the PC corporate managers from the top down so the non-mentally challenged warriors who are serious about their chosen occupation can execute the missions they are tasked with. I will fix the faggotry day one when I have them mail all their cell phones home and have them duck walk with their rucks for a hour. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:15:20 PM EDT
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Task Force Smith, here we come!!!! I don't think the public has the stomach for the casualties we'll have in the 2nd Korean Conflict |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:15:43 PM EDT
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Women. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Land Nav..why? It isn't that difficult. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:16:47 PM EDT
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Being left handed and throwing a grenade upside down was sketchy at best. And ya you're right. I also liked the metal stuck in the windows as you're in line... |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:17:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are still good leaders in the Army making shit happen. There are still good Soldiers that excel at soldiering. It's a culture war within the Army, and you can take heart in that not everyone that wears OCP is buying into this retarded insanity. God damn, do we really fucking NEED to get our shit pushed in during the beginning phases of the next fucking war to have a fucking enema at the Pentagon? Because that's what it seems it will take. 
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:17:28 PM EDT
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Pathetic. I also heard they quit doing bayonet training a while back. Double pathetic. Land Nav..why? It isn't that difficult. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:18:16 PM EDT
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Let me come back as a Drill SGT again with no rules other than make them killers I will fix the faggotry day one when I have them mail all their cell phones home and have them duck walk with their rucks for a hour. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Task Force Smith, here we come!!!! None of which has a damn thing to do with fighting and winning wars (unlike land nav and throwing grenades). Oh, and I'll believe the Army when they say they're reinventing basic training to NOT cater to the snowflakes when I see it. The transition will probably consist of renaming every basic training site some sort of "All-Inclusive Gender Neutral Gay Friendly Training Center of Excellence" bullshit and nothing more. Want to fix the Army? Clean house of the PC corporate managers from the top down so the non-mentally challenged warriors who are serious about their chosen occupation can execute the missions they are tasked with. I will fix the faggotry day one when I have them mail all their cell phones home and have them duck walk with their rucks for a hour. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:18:37 PM EDT
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You know, Obama's political lawyers at the pentagon were blamed for most of the SJW policies pushed down on the commanders. You'd think, a year in, there'd have been some turnover and push back. |
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:19:11 PM EDT
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Most people never throw another grenade after Basic.
But dropping land nav?
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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:19:57 PM EDT
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Menstruation? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No bayonet training?? How will the grass grow??
Well played Sir
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