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Posted: 12/23/2018 2:01:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: Neotopiaman]
Apparently during development of the Raptor rocket engine SpaceX discovered a new super-strong cryoformed Stainless steel type alloy that allowed them to skip building it out of composites and accelerate development.
They are now building the grasshopper-type upper stage test article in Texas: 
Starship/BFR will be the largest, most powerful rocket ever built |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 9:20:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: Chokey]
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  https://www.permits.performance.gov/permitting-project/spacex-starshipsuper-heavy-launch-vehicle-program-spacex-boca-chica-launch-site |
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USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 10:26:18 AM EST
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NV, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 10:30:42 AM EST
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More than a little anxious over this.
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USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 11:29:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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 Have to wait for the "big reveal" Hopefully there isn't a marching band like NASA's SLS rollout 
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Posted: 6/13/2022 11:40:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th:
Have to wait for the "big reveal" Hopefully there isn't a marching band like NASA's SLS rollout Yeah, the roving Mariachi band for SpaceX was much better. |
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USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 12:14:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Yeah, the roving Mariachi band for SpaceX was much better. |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 12:16:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: != Been awhile since I've seen that 
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USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 12:27:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pavelow16478: Been awhile since I've seen that It felt right |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 12:59:59 PM EST
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NV, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 1:02:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: Hesperus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/371724/FB_IMG_1655143176358_jpg-2416934.JPG Sounds good. But then again I don't speak bureaucrat. 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 1:05:25 PM EST
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Thats really good news and actually shocking good.
Maybe DOD tapped on the FAAs shoulder on this one. |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 1:05:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/371724/FB_IMG_1655143176358_jpg-2416934.JPG Let the lawsuits from the tree huggers begin! |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 1:11:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pavelow16478: Let the lawsuits from the tree huggers begin! They won't carry any water. Let the real testing begin !!! |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 1:12:41 PM EST
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Posted: 6/13/2022 1:13:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Sounds good. But then again I don't speak bureaucrat. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Originally Posted By burnka871: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/371724/FB_IMG_1655143176358_jpg-2416934.JPG Sounds good. But then again I don't speak bureaucrat.
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Posted: 6/13/2022 1:13:35 PM EST
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Posted: 6/13/2022 1:27:32 PM EST
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NV, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 1:32:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: Hesperus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
One step closer to humanity establishing a Kardeshev 2 level civilization. Perhaps the most important step. Environmental restrictions have become a noose around the neck of human development. This is progress towards the birth of something at the very ragged edge of current human potential. |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 2:53:35 PM EST
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Posted: 6/13/2022 2:56:55 PM EST
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This is an interesting detail. Due to advancements in Raptor design, they will use commercially available methane without the need for additional refinement.
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ME, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 3:00:03 PM EST
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That last ones amusing. 15% ish increased thrust only raises I decibel as it's already so loud.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 3:00:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: One step closer to humanity establishing a Kardeshev 2 level civilization. Perhaps the most important step. Environmental restrictions have become a noose around the neck of human development. This is progress towards the birth of something at the very ragged edge of current human potential. |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 3:08:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skibane: Time to break out the Churros!  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13258/Churros_jpg-2417053.JPG Churro? Nah, spiral potato. 
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Posted: 6/13/2022 3:37:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: NotRyan]
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They need to do a test before the end of July. I have $1800 in airlines credits I need to use before then.... I'll gladly waste $800 on a hotel and another $800 on a rental car at the chance of seeing the first heavy launch.
We could find an AirBNB and have an arfcom viewing party |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 3:41:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RyanEsstac: They need to do a test before the end of July. I have $1800 in airlines credits I need to use before then.... I'll gladly waste $800 on a hotel and another $800 on a rental car at the chance of seeing the first heavy launch. We could find an AirBNB and have an arfcom viewing party  Attached File |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 3:43:46 PM EST
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Hmm, a desalination plant would have been an interesting piece of infrastructure.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 3:52:59 PM EST
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funny how their more environmentally friendly infrastructure they planned to build was scrapped to appease the environmental study.
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NV, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 4:02:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3Trip: funny how their more environmentally friendly infrastructure they planned to build was scrapped to appease the environmental study. Desalination is a very energy intensive process and the brine produced from it has to be disposed of somewhere. It's not like we are allowed to just go around dumping things in the sea anymore. What do you think this is? The year 1912? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 4:27:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3Trip]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Desalination is a very energy intensive process and the brine produced from it has to be disposed of somewhere. It's not like we are allowed to just go around dumping things in the sea anymore. What do you think this is? The year 1912? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Originally Posted By 3Trip: funny how their more environmentally friendly infrastructure they planned to build was scrapped to appease the environmental study. Desalination is a very energy intensive process and the brine produced from it has to be disposed of somewhere. It's not like we are allowed to just go around dumping things in the sea anymore. What do you think this is? The year 1912? crazy isn't it? heaven forbid their solar powered desalination plant puts the ocean salt back in the ocean. 
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Posted: 6/13/2022 4:48:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3Trip: crazy isn't it? heaven forbid their solar powered desalination plant puts the ocean salt back in the ocean. I'd buy a Starship-shaped SpaceX sea salt grinder. (Now say that 5 times fast!) |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 5:02:15 PM EST
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Process the effluent from the plant into table salt. Put it into starship shaped salt grinders and sell them as collectibles.
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NV, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 5:03:31 PM EST
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Starship shaped salt grinder with a booster shaped pepper grinder?
Able to be locked together for display or storage? |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 5:07:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Starship shaped salt grinder with a booster shaped pepper grinder? Able to be locked together for display or storage? Starship is the turny part, booster is the main body part. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 5:13:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Desalination is a very energy intensive process and the brine produced from it has to be disposed of somewhere. It's not like we are allowed to just go around dumping things in the sea anymore. What do you think this is? The year 1912? like right back where it came from ? |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2022 5:18:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By notarandomname: like right back where it came from ? Changes in ocean salinity could endanger barnacle populations. |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 5:21:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By notarandomname: like right back where it came from ? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By notarandomname: Originally Posted By Hesperus: Desalination is a very energy intensive process and the brine produced from it has to be disposed of somewhere. It's not like we are allowed to just go around dumping things in the sea anymore. What do you think this is? The year 1912? like right back where it came from ? A minuscule, immeasurable increase in salinity due to a desalination plant is totally different than the same minuscule increase in salinity caused by evaporation on a slightly higher than average temp day.
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Posted: 6/13/2022 5:22:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Changes in ocean salinity could endanger barnacle populations. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Originally Posted By notarandomname: like right back where it came from ? Changes in ocean salinity could endanger barnacle populations. Good. Soon we'll have those little bastards exterminated. |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 6:16:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Originally Posted By RyanEsstac: They need to do a test before the end of July. I have $1800 in airlines credits I need to use before then.... I'll gladly waste $800 on a hotel and another $800 on a rental car at the chance of seeing the first heavy launch. We could find an AirBNB and have an arfcom viewing party /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/hellyeah-175.jpg  |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 6:36:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: Starship is the turny part, booster is the main body part. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: Originally Posted By Hesperus: Starship shaped salt grinder with a booster shaped pepper grinder? Able to be locked together for display or storage? Starship is the turny part, booster is the main body part. Are you really going to give a dildo-looking device a handy before you eat? |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 6:40:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By t75fnaco3pwzhd: Are you really going to give a dildo-looking device a handy before you eat? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By t75fnaco3pwzhd: Originally Posted By TacticalGarand44: Originally Posted By Hesperus: Starship shaped salt grinder with a booster shaped pepper grinder? Able to be locked together for display or storage? Starship is the turny part, booster is the main body part. Are you really going to give a dildo-looking device a handy before you eat? For Starship, hell yeah I would! |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 7:26:49 PM EST
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I'm holding out for the Bezos is Salty Shaker
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Posted: 6/13/2022 8:26:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: For Starship, hell yeah I would! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: Originally Posted By t75fnaco3pwzhd: Originally Posted By TacticalGarand44: Originally Posted By Hesperus: Starship shaped salt grinder with a booster shaped pepper grinder? Able to be locked together for display or storage? Starship is the turny part, booster is the main body part. Are you really going to give a dildo-looking device a handy before you eat? For Starship, hell yeah I would!  |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 9:37:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3Trip: crazy isn't it? heaven forbid their solar powered desalination plant puts the ocean salt back in the ocean. Eh....in this case, it's a valid concern. The concentrated brine solution that the desalinization process generates as a byproduct......is pretty gnarly if you just dump in back into the water. Probably better to divert it to a salt production/evaporation operation. |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 10:06:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockMech: Eh....in this case, it's a valid concern. The concentrated brine solution that the desalinization process generates as a byproduct......is pretty gnarly if you just dump in back into the water. Probably better to divert it to a salt production/evaporation operation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockMech: Originally Posted By 3Trip: crazy isn't it? heaven forbid their solar powered desalination plant puts the ocean salt back in the ocean. Eh....in this case, it's a valid concern. The concentrated brine solution that the desalinization process generates as a byproduct......is pretty gnarly if you just dump in back into the water. Probably better to divert it to a salt production/evaporation operation. The solution to pollution is dilution. |
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Posted: 6/13/2022 10:07:00 PM EST
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Good news!
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Posted: 6/13/2022 10:26:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Sounds good. But then again I don't speak bureaucrat. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Originally Posted By burnka871: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/371724/FB_IMG_1655143176358_jpg-2416934.JPG Sounds good. But then again I don't speak bureaucrat. Finding of No Significant Impact (FONSI) is the green light. If they found a significant impact, then an Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) would be required and there goes 2 years. I still worry, in a previous career we always went straight to the EIS. We thought it too risky some environmental group would find an activist court to pull our FONSI and we would have to start from scratch on the EIS. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 5:55:46 AM EST
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We might see starship hit space this year now!
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:09:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chairborne: The solution to pollution is dilution. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 7:28:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JCoop: Yes, but, where the hell are they going to get enough water to dilute the salt? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JCoop: Originally Posted By Chairborne: The solution to pollution is dilution. Yeah, they’re going to need oceans worth, just like Fukushima! On a serious note, he’s got a point, probably need to dump the salt somewhere with strong currents sufficiently away from shore. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 8:15:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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