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Posted: 10/27/2021 7:27:29 PM EST
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This is now the active "shit News links, thanks to BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH Kyiv Post Ukrainian News UKRInform EUROMAIDEN PRESS New Voice of Ukraine Kyiv Independent Ukraine World InterFax Ukraine UATV Ukrainian Journal Official Website of the President of Ukraine Ukrainian Ministry of Defense Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often. Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise. New news link c/o berettaguy: Ukrainian Pravda https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/ Stop fake, anti - disinformation site: https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/ |
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Posted: 5/28/2022 11:58:52 PM EST
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Posted: 5/29/2022 1:17:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firefly1032: I hope that’s true, especially about weakening the lines in the south. Could be a major opportunity for UA to start gaining some critical ground back. A vulnerability to Crimea absolutely would force RU to divert resources away from the east. This is what I’ve been thinking a long while. The real play is to hit them at the very end of their log train. I think the Donbas is just a delaying action and they will build the counteroffensive on the Southern Front. The Dniepr gives a solid right flank to go south from the left bank. Then the Kherson forces whither on the vine and Crimea is the new battleground. Coincidentally, this was the direction the trains with all the T-62s was heading. But I have no idea where they were offloaded and I’m surprised we haven’t heard about that. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 5:56:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firefly1032: I hope that’s true, especially about weakening the lines in the south. Could be a major opportunity for UA to start gaining some critical ground back. A vulnerability to Crimea absolutely would force RU to divert resources away from the east. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firefly1032: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: The Ukrainian counter-offensive in the south NW of Kherson has evidently been highly successful. The Enforcer Channel on YT is reporting Ukrainians have pushed the Russian forces back by anywhere from 12 to 15 miles just today! That is a pretty significant breakthrough and highlights how the Russians have weakened their lines in most areas to boost their forces for an all out push against Severodonetsk. I hope that’s true, especially about weakening the lines in the south. Could be a major opportunity for UA to start gaining some critical ground back. A vulnerability to Crimea absolutely would force RU to divert resources away from the east. I hope they are able to drive to the river and cut off that force north east of Kherson. Divide and conquer them |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 5:58:35 AM EST
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Oh and one last thing. I don't think the bridge in Kherson is going to make it. The Russians will probably just blow it when they get a few units across the river.
Wonder if UA will take it out further stranding more units in Kherson, then let it become Russias own Mariupol and starve the commies out. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 6:05:10 AM EST
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-dead-russia-ukraine-27093054
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Posted: 5/29/2022 6:11:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: This is what I’ve been thinking a long while. The real play is to hit them at the very end of their log train. I think the Donbas is just a delaying action and they will build the counteroffensive on the Southern Front. The Dniepr gives a solid right flank to go south from the left bank. Then the Kherson forces whither on the vine and Crimea is the new battleground. Coincidentally, this was the direction the trains with all the T-62s was heading. But I have no idea where they were offloaded and I’m surprised we haven’t heard about that. That’s what I’ve been saying. For the Russians, Donbas is optional. They MUST have Crimea. The UA should let Russia shoot its wad in the east, then go for the throat in Crimea. Take or bypass Kherson, then roll down the west coast of Crimea far enough to arty the living shit out of Sevastopol. The UA doesn’t even need to take all of Crimea, just enough to make Sevastopol untenable. Then you’ll see the Russians squeal. No one will say shit after what the Russians did to Mariupol. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 6:16:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: If Severodonetsk has fallen, will there be a lull in the offensive tempo so the orcs can do some looting, murdering and raping? I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to remove nice appliances from hot zones, so as to deny Russian cannon fodder their preferred loot, thus making them less likely to want to fight? Or to stuff small hamlets with toilets and dishwashers, then pull back, giving the RF line soldiers time to dump their ammo to make room for loot, and unass themselves back to the Rodina? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Circuits: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Russians claiming they’ve seized full control of Severdonestk. Guessing Sloviansk and Bakhmut will get very hot soon if true. If Severodonetsk has fallen, will there be a lull in the offensive tempo so the orcs can do some looting, murdering and raping? I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to remove nice appliances from hot zones, so as to deny Russian cannon fodder their preferred loot, thus making them less likely to want to fight? Or to stuff small hamlets with toilets and dishwashers, then pull back, giving the RF line soldiers time to dump their ammo to make room for loot, and unass themselves back to the Rodina? There’s a whole meme video genre waiting to happen. Step 1) Set a nice new washing machine next to a road and watch it with a drone backed by 155s. Step 2)Profit. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 7:02:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mbjku: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-dead-russia-ukraine-27093054 Unfortunately tabloid news. Hillary Clinton will drop out of the 2016 race any day now due to her illness, has hired a body double to fill in for her. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/hillary-clinton-body-double-conspiracy-8830110 |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 7:06:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: This is what I’ve been thinking a long while. The real play is to hit them at the very end of their log train. I think the Donbas is just a delaying action and they will build the counteroffensive on the Southern Front. The Dniepr gives a solid right flank to go south from the left bank. Then the Kherson forces whither on the vine and Crimea is the new battleground. Coincidentally, this was the direction the trains with all the T-62s was heading. But I have no idea where they were offloaded and I’m surprised we haven’t heard about that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By Firefly1032: I hope that’s true, especially about weakening the lines in the south. Could be a major opportunity for UA to start gaining some critical ground back. A vulnerability to Crimea absolutely would force RU to divert resources away from the east. This is what I’ve been thinking a long while. The real play is to hit them at the very end of their log train. I think the Donbas is just a delaying action and they will build the counteroffensive on the Southern Front. The Dniepr gives a solid right flank to go south from the left bank. Then the Kherson forces whither on the vine and Crimea is the new battleground. Coincidentally, this was the direction the trains with all the T-62s was heading. But I have no idea where they were offloaded and I’m surprised we haven’t heard about that. I'm surprised people don't read the ISW daily assessment I post, it mentions where the T-62's showed up the past few days. Russian forces pressed the ground assault on Severodonetsk and its environs, making limited gains. Russian forces in Kharkiv continue to focus efforts on preventing a Ukrainian counteroffensive from reaching the international border between Kharkiv and Belgorod. Ukrainian forces began a counteroffensive near the Kherson-Mykolaiv oblast border approximately 70 km to the northeast of Kherson City that may have crossed the Inhulets River. Russia’s use of stored T-62 tanks in the southern axis indicates Russia’s continued materiel and force generation problems. Ukrainian partisan activity continues to impose costs on Russian occupation forces in Kherson and Zaporizhia oblasts. Zaporizhia Oblast Administration Head Oleksandr Starukh reported that Russian forces have accumulated a large number of old T-62 tanks in Melitopol since withdrawing them from storage on May 25.[24] Starukh noted that Russian forces will commit the tanks to stationary firing points in Zaporizhia Oblast, rather than committing the obsolescent tanks to combat in the oblast. The Ukrainian General Staff stated that Russian forces are replenishing equipment losses with T-62s in northern Kherson Oblast, however, despite the tank’s vulnerabilities in modern warfare.[25] Russian forces continued to increase air defense systems in southern Ukraine. Russian forces continued ground assaults on Severodonetsk’s northern neighborhoods and have not fully encircled the city from the west. Luhansk Oblast Administration Head Serhiy Haidai reported that Russian forces seized a hotel and advanced to Severodonetsk’s bus terminal on May 27 and continued fighting with Ukrainian defenders in the area on May 28.[9] Haidai stressed that Russian forces have not isolated the city, despite damaging a bridge along the Lysychansk-Severodonetsk road.[10] Haidai indicated that Ukrainian forces may withdraw from the area to avoid getting surrounded.[11] Pro-Russian milblogger Alexander Sladkov (who has 850,000 followers) criticized Russian military commanders for beginning the Battle of Severodonetsk before fully encircling Ukrainian troops.[12] Sladkov also criticized the lack of coherent offensive tactics among Russian commanders, despite their successes around Lyman. Also from the ISW report, and of interest. Russian forces likely intend to loot occupied industrial sectors in Mariupol and Zaporizhia Oblast. Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) Head Denis Pushilin reported that occupation forces will not repair Azovstal Steel Plant for ecological reasons on May 28.[31] Russian forces began exporting metal from Mariupol Port to Russia.[32] Pushilin noted that the Azovmash machine-building plant will resume its operations, even though the plant has faced severe financial problems for over ten years and is unlikely to generate profit. The Zaporizhia Oblast Military Administration reported that Russian forces just began to operate the spare tractor parts plant in Melitopol after confiscating it from the rightful owner.[33] |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 7:24:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: USMCTanker]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Tried to IM this story but your inbox is full. So fuck it. I worked security at DARPA during OEF. One weekend a guy walked up to the door to get let in, which never happened. When I asked what he wanted he said “I just got off a flight from Afghanistan and I need to get this upstairs” and shows me a thumbdrive around his neck. I’m like “that’s the most badass thing I’ve ever heard, but stand by a second”. He went right up  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By USMCTanker: DARPA or Redstone Arsenal? DARPA’s work is largely in the realm of technology that is decades away from fielding; really advanced concepts that seem like science fiction at present. They get roped into some near-term projects like AI, but that’s the exception. Tried to IM this story but your inbox is full. So fuck it. I worked security at DARPA during OEF. One weekend a guy walked up to the door to get let in, which never happened. When I asked what he wanted he said “I just got off a flight from Afghanistan and I need to get this upstairs” and shows me a thumbdrive around his neck. I’m like “that’s the most badass thing I’ve ever heard, but stand by a second”. He went right up Deleted |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 7:27:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Featureless: What do they say about picking a fight with an old man? Or an old man with an old machine gun?? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Featureless: Originally Posted By sq40: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/E41EAA4E-578A-498C-9AC9-52F37950F772_png-2399285.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/FCEACF96-C602-45CB-B734-D3DBDE540976_jpe-2399287.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/5858FA9E-BFC0-4EEA-BC2C-F2CF292D737D_jpe-2399288.JPG What do they say about picking a fight with an old man? Or an old man with an old machine gun?? Real life cossacks |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 7:33:04 AM EST
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Meanwhile....In the skies over Eastern Europe....
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Posted: 5/29/2022 8:25:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flogger23m: Russia should have thousands upon thousands of T-72s in storage, which are better and newer than T-62s. You'd think it would be easier to pull those out and get them combat ready over an older design that isn't in production anymore. For anti infantry use the Terminators that are showing up make more sense but they probably only have a few of them. Sure, maybe they have more HE/frag/whatever in 115mm, but otherwise I'd think the disadvantages outweigh the advantages of bringing T-62s over T-72s. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flogger23m: Originally Posted By deputyrpa: Originally Posted By Wolfy42: Part of the reason they are using T62s is due to its 115mm gun which is more suited for bunker busting and infantry support then the 125mm due to ammo choice. Otherwise the T62 is an obsolete death trap. Any decent modern IFV would be able to take it out. Could be, the Syrians preferred them over the T-72s. But I'm thinking they're more for patrolling occupied territory and displacing newer tanks to be forward deployed. There's a lot of occupied territory, so it makes sense to deploy your old equipment and older reserve tankers to patrol dirt roads far from the front lines. The T-62s would just be javelin fodder on the front lines, but could be otherwise useful for infantry support. Time will tell. Russia should have thousands upon thousands of T-72s in storage, which are better and newer than T-62s. You'd think it would be easier to pull those out and get them combat ready over an older design that isn't in production anymore. For anti infantry use the Terminators that are showing up make more sense but they probably only have a few of them. Sure, maybe they have more HE/frag/whatever in 115mm, but otherwise I'd think the disadvantages outweigh the advantages of bringing T-62s over T-72s. Leading up to the attack into Kuwait during ODS, losses of tanks were anticipated to be higher than turned out to be the case. With that in mind, every USMC M-60A1 that could be shipped over to SWA was sent to Al Jubail prior to the ground war. If the tank ran forwards and backwards, could turn, and the turret and main gun could be operated with manual controls, it was considered “combat ready” even if all systems weren’t working. Such is the way with armor. If I was a senior Russian commander, I would rather have a T-72 operating in degraded mode without stab, LRF, power traverse, etc. if it was easier to support with ammo and spares. That the Russians haven’t fielded legacy T-72 MBTs that are in “storage” as combat replacements tells me they can’t. The Russians probably don’t have the ability to bring those tanks back to operating condition without a major depot-level rebuild line opened up which would take months and a huge budget that they don’t have. Those Soviet-era tanks were stored in the open, exposed to the elements without any maintenance at all. They would need to be stripped down to the bare hulls and turrets and ALL electrical and rubber components replaced. That’s just to get them running again to 1970 standards, and that’s a huge challenge for Ivan. I don’t think the cannon tubes were CL’d so God only knows if the barrels can be reclaimed although I imagine they could. What’s a little rust on a 125mm tube with a service life of only 500 rds anyway? I also doubt if the Russians have the technical ability to domestically manufacture components needed to repair or replace the LRF, digital FCS, and other electronics. Those hills and turrets can be rebuilt to factory new MBT standards with zero miles and hours, even after decades of exposure to the elements and a metric shit-ton of corrosion, but it takes lots and lots of rubles and production capacity that I don’t think they have at the moment. Analog T-62s OTOH would be much easier to rebuild or bring back to combat ready status owing to the lack of digital components and a simpler mechanical design: A stadia range finder, human loader (on the right side of the turret BTW), and a reliable engine pack in a tank that even Arabs can operate without too much support. Given the catastrophic kills suffered by “modern” Russian armor, I can’t say the T-62 or T-55 would be any less survivable either. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 8:30:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Quality post. And thus why we need to do everything we can to "re-shore" chip production to the US (or North America at least). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Originally Posted By Circuits: Many of the things they need, China does not make - all sourced from Western companies, even if subcomponents are made in China. Even the high tech things that China makes are usually based on Western IP, use Western-made fabs, rely on Western software systems, etc - all of which are subject to the same sanctions as Russia, if China gets caught supplying those things to Russia. The difference is that if China gets cut off by the West, it'd only take them 5-10 years to get back current again, while it'd take Russia 20-25 years. China possesses the physical plant and top techs and scientists to either engineer their own solutions, or crack copy protection/license schemes on their design and control software, while Russia has little in the way of specialists or fabrication machinery or experience to bootstrap its own chip production, make new computers, etc. Russia is basically completely dependent on Western high tech imports of finished goods, at the moment, while China is only dependent on continued Western technology transfer and tech support. Quality post. And thus why we need to do everything we can to "re-shore" chip production to the US (or North America at least). We are, and the new fabs will be cutting edge. Intel is investing $100bln to build 8 fabs in Columbus OH alone. TSMC is building a $12bln ultra advanced fab in AZ. The future is bright for US tech manufacturing. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 8:35:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mbjku: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-dead-russia-ukraine-27093054 Haven’t world leaders been talking to him on the phone? |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 8:54:18 AM EST
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Posted: 5/29/2022 9:03:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Europeans always figured out I was American right away. You really can see that in some of these videos although that last voice sounded British
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Posted: 5/29/2022 9:05:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mbinky: https://i.postimg.cc/c49dV40F/Screen-Shot-2022-05-29-at-9-52-59-AM.png AHS Krab - Wikipedia  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 9:06:36 AM EST
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Posted: 5/29/2022 9:11:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mbjku: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-dead-russia-ukraine-27093054 Putin dead? That would be a blessing. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 9:14:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: The Ukrainian counter-offensive in the south NW of Kherson has evidently been highly successful. The Enforcer Channel on YT is reporting Ukrainians have pushed the Russian forces back by anywhere from 12 to 15 miles just today! That is a pretty significant breakthrough and highlights how the Russians have weakened their lines in most areas to boost their forces for an all out push against Severodonetsk. For those of you with experience in warfare- Does it make sense for Ukraine to press them hard down south where their supply lines are longer? Or, does the UA simply have to go wherever the most Orcs are (such as around Severodonetsk)? |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 9:23:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMCTanker: Leading up to the attack into Kuwait during ODS, losses of tanks were anticipated to be higher than turned out to be the case. With that in mind, every USMC M-60A1 that could be shipped over to SWA was sent to Al Jubail prior to the ground war. If the tank ran forwards and backwards, could turn, and the turret and main gun could be operated with manual controls, it was considered “combat ready” even if all systems weren’t working. Such is the way with armor. If I was a senior Russian commander, I would rather have a T-72 operating in degraded mode without stab, LRF, power traverse, etc. if it was easier to support with ammo and spares. That the Russians haven’t fielded legacy T-72 MBTs that are in “storage” as combat replacements tells me they can’t. The Russians probably don’t have the ability to bring those tanks back to operating condition without a major depot-level rebuild line opened up which would take months and a huge budget that they don’t have. Those Soviet-era tanks were stored in the open, exposed to the elements without any maintenance at all. They would need to be stripped down to the bare hulls and turrets and ALL electrical and rubber components replaced. That’s just to get them running again to 1970 standards, and that’s a huge challenge for Ivan. I don’t think the cannon tubes were CL’d so God only knows if the barrels can be reclaimed although I imagine they could. What’s a little rust on a 125mm tube with a service life of only 500 rds anyway? I also doubt if the Russians have the technical ability to domestically manufacture components needed to repair or replace the LRF, digital FCS, and other electronics. Those hills and turrets can be rebuilt to factory new MBT standards with zero miles and hours, even after decades of exposure to the elements and a metric shit-ton of corrosion, but it takes lots and lots of rubles and production capacity that I don’t think they have at the moment. Analog T-62s OTOH would be much easier to rebuild or bring back to combat ready status owing to the lack of digital components and a simpler mechanical design: A stadia range finder, human loader (on the right side of the turret BTW), and a reliable engine pack in a tank that even Arabs can operate without too much support. Given the catastrophic kills suffered by “modern” Russian armor, I can’t say the T-62 or T-55 would be any less survivable either. All good points. Whatever the reason, the Russians are bringing out those 62 for a reason. I read that they are giving them to certain "territorial units" in Donets or wherever. Unless they are total retards, I'd assume they are holding back at least a few modern tanks for an emergency and for whatever reason, they are going with the 62's rather than the 72's. As you stated, gear sitting outside turns to shit quickly and it's possible that some component of the 72's cannot be easily replaced or sourced. Anyway, if the old T62 responds no better/worse to the fires taking out the 72's then it's all the same to the Russians, it's just a gun truck. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 9:23:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GiggleSmith: Meanwhile....In the skies over Eastern Europe.... What is that KC-135 doing over there???? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/40561/KC-135_jpg-2400710.JPG The racetrack pattern is a standard refueling track. Most likely gassing up a fighter CAP or ISR assets. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 9:29:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog15: For those of you with experience in warfare- Does it make sense for Ukraine to press them hard down south where their supply lines are longer? Or, does the UA simply have to go wherever the most Orcs are (such as around Severodonetsk)? If a breakthrough happens, that's when the real killing starts. It's possible a Russian unit/flank collapsed unexpectedly and the UA "should" exploit it assuming they have infantry support, arty cover, and supplies secure and being mindful of the eventual counter attack. It they rush through fast enough a whole sector could collapse. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 9:32:28 AM EST
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Western Volunteer EOD Team In Ukraine
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Posted: 5/29/2022 9:33:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Stugna-p hit on something with a lot of dismounts riding on top. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/uzwtvl/stugnap_direct_hit_on_russian_vehicle_with_many/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb The vid's always cut off too soon and we cant see what happens. Do the dismounts dismount, does the track go up. Or do they keep going? |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 9:36:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: We are, and the new fabs will be cutting edge. Intel is investing $100bln to build 8 fabs in Columbus OH alone. TSMC is building a $12bln ultra advanced fab in AZ. The future is bright for US tech manufacturing. Any timetable as to when these will start delivering product? At what point will Russia diminish their weapons stash, military production capabilities and manpower that they will become a target beyond the Ukrainian battlefield? China has to be licking their chopsticks. (With apologies for the terrible pun.) Are they just assuming the threat of nukes will make them untouchable? They have already pulled forces and military hardware from many of their remote outposts like Syria as to have their more global influence significantly neutered. Making those countries way more vulnerable. There is no win for Russia at this point, only Putin's ego. Kill Putin's ego, end the war. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 9:54:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: This is part of what I’m referring to in my posts above this one on this page. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By lorazepam: If people would stop fucking with them, it would be like the upper midwest. Farming and manufacturing. Ukraine and Poland could be the driving force of europe. This is part of what I’m referring to in my posts above this one on this page. You think that may be one more reason why some of the established Western European nations are dragging their feet on assistance? They don't need any more challenges to their weakened economies from all the third world immigrants they have forced themselves to take in |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 9:57:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GiggleSmith: Meanwhile....In the skies over Eastern Europe.... What is that KC-135 doing over there???? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/40561/KC-135_jpg-2400710.JPG Gassing fighters and ISR jets? |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:02:59 AM EST
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:07:41 AM EST
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This was last year in 2021. The Russians were definitely watching this speech live.
Russian Jet Enters into Lithuania | Stops Conference of Spanish President and Lithuanian President  Russian Jet Enters into Lithuania | Stops Conference of Spanish President and Lithuanian President A conference between Lithuanian and Spanish president was stopped when they got an alert of Russian Fighter jet into lithuanain territory of NATO Base on Friday/7/2021. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:15:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: All good points. Whatever the reason, the Russians are bringing out those 62 for a reason. I read that they are giving them to certain "territorial units" in Donets or wherever. Unless they are total retards, I'd assume they are holding back at least a few modern tanks for an emergency and for whatever reason, they are going with the 62's rather than the 72's. As you stated, gear sitting outside turns to shit quickly and it's possible that some component of the 72's cannot be easily replaced or sourced. Anyway, if the old T62 responds no better/worse to the fires taking out the 72's then it's all the same to the Russians, it's just a gun truck. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By USMCTanker: Leading up to the attack into Kuwait during ODS, losses of tanks were anticipated to be higher than turned out to be the case. With that in mind, every USMC M-60A1 that could be shipped over to SWA was sent to Al Jubail prior to the ground war. If the tank ran forwards and backwards, could turn, and the turret and main gun could be operated with manual controls, it was considered “combat ready” even if all systems weren’t working. Such is the way with armor. If I was a senior Russian commander, I would rather have a T-72 operating in degraded mode without stab, LRF, power traverse, etc. if it was easier to support with ammo and spares. That the Russians haven’t fielded legacy T-72 MBTs that are in “storage” as combat replacements tells me they can’t. The Russians probably don’t have the ability to bring those tanks back to operating condition without a major depot-level rebuild line opened up which would take months and a huge budget that they don’t have. Those Soviet-era tanks were stored in the open, exposed to the elements without any maintenance at all. They would need to be stripped down to the bare hulls and turrets and ALL electrical and rubber components replaced. That’s just to get them running again to 1970 standards, and that’s a huge challenge for Ivan. I don’t think the cannon tubes were CL’d so God only knows if the barrels can be reclaimed although I imagine they could. What’s a little rust on a 125mm tube with a service life of only 500 rds anyway? I also doubt if the Russians have the technical ability to domestically manufacture components needed to repair or replace the LRF, digital FCS, and other electronics. Those hills and turrets can be rebuilt to factory new MBT standards with zero miles and hours, even after decades of exposure to the elements and a metric shit-ton of corrosion, but it takes lots and lots of rubles and production capacity that I don’t think they have at the moment. Analog T-62s OTOH would be much easier to rebuild or bring back to combat ready status owing to the lack of digital components and a simpler mechanical design: A stadia range finder, human loader (on the right side of the turret BTW), and a reliable engine pack in a tank that even Arabs can operate without too much support. Given the catastrophic kills suffered by “modern” Russian armor, I can’t say the T-62 or T-55 would be any less survivable either. All good points. Whatever the reason, the Russians are bringing out those 62 for a reason. I read that they are giving them to certain "territorial units" in Donets or wherever. Unless they are total retards, I'd assume they are holding back at least a few modern tanks for an emergency and for whatever reason, they are going with the 62's rather than the 72's. As you stated, gear sitting outside turns to shit quickly and it's possible that some component of the 72's cannot be easily replaced or sourced. Anyway, if the old T62 responds no better/worse to the fires taking out the 72's then it's all the same to the Russians, it's just a gun truck. Like the M-60 series, a T-62 could hold ground in the defense against dismounts and IFVs while the more modern Russian MBTs that remain can be committed to continuing offensive operations elsewhere. Plus, the T-62 would be easier to keep operational from a maintenance perspective than anything that was designed after it. Fairly telling about how the war is going for Russia. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:17:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: YaNi05]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Gassing fighters and ISR jets? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By GiggleSmith: Meanwhile....In the skies over Eastern Europe.... What is that KC-135 doing over there???? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/40561/KC-135_jpg-2400710.JPG Gassing fighters and ISR jets? There have been almost continuous USAF LAGR flights supporting NATO fighters in Eastern Europe since before the war started. Romania is a NATO ally with NATO air bases that currently have USAF and RAF fighters stationed there. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:19:35 AM EST
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Perun has posted another video. I'm no expert on any of this but I've found his videos to be pretty solid.
 How Corruption Destroys Armies - Theft, Graft, and Russian failure in Ukraine |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:27:08 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: All good points. Whatever the reason, the Russians are bringing out those 62 for a reason. I read that they are giving them to certain "territorial units" in Donets or wherever. Unless they are total retards, I'd assume they are holding back at least a few modern tanks for an emergency and for whatever reason, they are going with the 62's rather than the 72's. As you stated, gear sitting outside turns to shit quickly and it's possible that some component of the 72's cannot be easily replaced or sourced. Anyway, if the old T62 responds no better/worse to the fires taking out the 72's then it's all the same to the Russians, it's just a gun truck. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By USMCTanker: Leading up to the attack into Kuwait during ODS, losses of tanks were anticipated to be higher than turned out to be the case. With that in mind, every USMC M-60A1 that could be shipped over to SWA was sent to Al Jubail prior to the ground war. If the tank ran forwards and backwards, could turn, and the turret and main gun could be operated with manual controls, it was considered “combat ready” even if all systems weren’t working. Such is the way with armor. If I was a senior Russian commander, I would rather have a T-72 operating in degraded mode without stab, LRF, power traverse, etc. if it was easier to support with ammo and spares. That the Russians haven’t fielded legacy T-72 MBTs that are in “storage” as combat replacements tells me they can’t. The Russians probably don’t have the ability to bring those tanks back to operating condition without a major depot-level rebuild line opened up which would take months and a huge budget that they don’t have. Those Soviet-era tanks were stored in the open, exposed to the elements without any maintenance at all. They would need to be stripped down to the bare hulls and turrets and ALL electrical and rubber components replaced. That’s just to get them running again to 1970 standards, and that’s a huge challenge for Ivan. I don’t think the cannon tubes were CL’d so God only knows if the barrels can be reclaimed although I imagine they could. What’s a little rust on a 125mm tube with a service life of only 500 rds anyway? I also doubt if the Russians have the technical ability to domestically manufacture components needed to repair or replace the LRF, digital FCS, and other electronics. Those hills and turrets can be rebuilt to factory new MBT standards with zero miles and hours, even after decades of exposure to the elements and a metric shit-ton of corrosion, but it takes lots and lots of rubles and production capacity that I don’t think they have at the moment. Analog T-62s OTOH would be much easier to rebuild or bring back to combat ready status owing to the lack of digital components and a simpler mechanical design: A stadia range finder, human loader (on the right side of the turret BTW), and a reliable engine pack in a tank that even Arabs can operate without too much support. Given the catastrophic kills suffered by “modern” Russian armor, I can’t say the T-62 or T-55 would be any less survivable either. All good points. Whatever the reason, the Russians are bringing out those 62 for a reason. I read that they are giving them to certain "territorial units" in Donets or wherever. Unless they are total retards, I'd assume they are holding back at least a few modern tanks for an emergency and for whatever reason, they are going with the 62's rather than the 72's. As you stated, gear sitting outside turns to shit quickly and it's possible that some component of the 72's cannot be easily replaced or sourced. Anyway, if the old T62 responds no better/worse to the fires taking out the 72's then it's all the same to the Russians, it's just a gun truck. I wonder if the T-72s in storage have all been cannibalized over the years to keep their T-72s in service running. Plus, you figure with all of their sales of T-72s, only the ones in the worst shape remain in storage. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:27:59 AM EST
[#37]
Could be an RC-135w also
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:29:52 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MiG-21: The racetrack pattern is a standard refueling track. Most likely gassing up a fighter CAP or ISR assets. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MiG-21: Originally Posted By GiggleSmith: Meanwhile....In the skies over Eastern Europe.... What is that KC-135 doing over there???? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/40561/KC-135_jpg-2400710.JPG The racetrack pattern is a standard refueling track. Most likely gassing up a fighter CAP or ISR assets. The rivet joints and jstars must've all went dark a week or so ago. I don't think I've seen any on ads-b tracker for a while, in their usual orbits |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:30:10 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: That is why I don't understand how so many are getting their panties in a bunch about the minor gains Russia has made over the last week. They have thrown the overwhelming bulk of their forces against what amounts to a two mile by two mile area and suffered massive numbers of casualties just doing that. The rest of the front is static. That one little area in the east is literally the only area on the entire front where the Russians are attempting offensive action. And over the past 24 hours, Ukraine has actually launched several counter offensives in other areas that have taken back about the same amount of land they have given up around Severodonetsk. Russia simply doesn't have enough troops to sustain a fight this intense, nor to significantly exploit a breakthrough should they create one. The situation along the front will stabilize. Then we'll see Ukraine go on a massive counter-offensive of their own pretty soon when the new trainees and foreign equipment take to the field. Unless Russia opts for a national mobilization and a declaration of war --- something they don't seem enthused about doing, then they simply don't have the horsepower to achieve their current objectives in Ukraine. Plus 1 RF is in a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:32:16 AM EST
[#40]
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith: Meanwhile....In the skies over Eastern Europe.... What is that KC-135 doing over there???? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/40561/KC-135_jpg-2400710.JPG There have been USAF and RAF aerial refueling planes doing racetracks over Poland and/or Romania nearly non-stop since the start of the invasion. Whatever they're refueling, if anything, never publicly transponds. There's also US/NATO ELINT/ISR assets regularly transponding in the area, but they never seem to interact with the refuelers. So, the flying gas stations are either there just in case or they're likely refueling undisclosed assets in the area; fighters on station/HAVCAP with the ISR assets. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:35:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: Wreckshooter]
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:43:48 AM EST
[#42]
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-mercenaries-face-death-pro-27086999
Two British ‘mercenaries’ who fought for Ukraine were today told they face the death penalty at the hands of pro-Putin separatists.
Captives Shaun Pinner, 48, and Andrew Hill, 35, are to be put on trial in self-styled Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR). Pro-Russians are feared to be aiming to stage a show aimed at maximising concessions in Britain. If convicted, the maximum penalty is execution - believed to be by gun shot - for conducting “combat operations” against the pro-Putin region, said a local law enforcement official. Absent for unexplained reasons from the list of those to be tried was British "mercenary" Aiden Aslin, 28, who had been also detained by pro-Russian forces. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:47:15 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-mercenaries-face-death-pro-27086999 Two British ‘mercenaries’ who fought for Ukraine were today told they face the death penalty at the hands of pro-Putin separatists. Captives Shaun Pinner, 48, and Andrew Hill, 35, are to be put on trial in self-styled Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR). Pro-Russians are feared to be aiming to stage a show aimed at maximising concessions in Britain. If convicted, the maximum penalty is execution - believed to be by gun shot - for conducting “combat operations” against the pro-Putin region, said a local law enforcement official. Absent for unexplained reasons from the list of those to be tried was British "mercenary" Aiden Aslin, 28, who had been also detained by pro-Russian forces. maximising concessions in Britain How exactly will that work? They told their people not to go |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:54:24 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-mercenaries-face-death-pro-27086999 Two British ‘mercenaries’ who fought for Ukraine were today told they face the death penalty at the hands of pro-Putin separatists. Captives Shaun Pinner, 48, and Andrew Hill, 35, are to be put on trial in self-styled Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR). Pro-Russians are feared to be aiming to stage a show aimed at maximising concessions in Britain. If convicted, the maximum penalty is execution - believed to be by gun shot - for conducting “combat operations” against the pro-Putin region, said a local law enforcement official. Absent for unexplained reasons from the list of those to be tried was British "mercenary" Aiden Aslin, 28, who had been also detained by pro-Russian forces. I don't think executing British citizens will have the effect that the junior Orcs have in mind. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 10:58:36 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: We are, and the new fabs will be cutting edge. Intel is investing $100bln to build 8 fabs in Columbus OH alone. TSMC is building a $12bln ultra advanced fab in AZ. The future is bright for US tech manufacturing. Thank God. 
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Posted: 5/29/2022 11:17:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: GTLandser]
[#46]
https://www.facebook.com/100003984215434/posts/2417238861752231/ Translated: I would like this text to be reposted, copied to pages and translated into different languages. To bring it to the attention of foreigners and their politicians. I am not a military man. I never wanted to be in the military. I am a candidate of historical sciences, researcher, museum worker. And a little writer. I have to spend time researching history, writing scientific and popular science works. And still - art books. Because I like it and even get it. But lately I've been in the military. Because there is a war in my country. Every day we engage in artillery duels, in which one successful arrival of an enemy projectile will turn us into stuffing. We sleep in the bodies of the boxes in incredible tightness, and wash in warm water once a month. When it's raining, we're wet, when it's a swamp, we're as dirty as hell (and we wash once a month, I remind you, and that's not a fact that we'll have such an opportunity next month). And when it was cold, my brothers froze their fingers. We eat when we have a free minute, not when we have time to eat or have an appetite. We sleep so irregularly that I don't know if I will ever be able to return to my standard schedule from 11pm to 7pm. At the same time, we are a priority target for the enemy. And they can try to destroy us in different ways, at any moment. And in such conditions, if not more difficult, there are now thousands of historians, writers, accountants, bankers, IT specialists, teachers, designers and other completely peaceful professions in Ukraine. They are killed from the 152mm and from the Tochka-U, they fly bullets and VOGs, cluster and phosphorus ammunition. Some of them have already died. And someone will never return to their profession because they have burned out. But they all continue to fight. Because Ukraine is behind them. Because if they lay down their arms, their parents will be killed, their wives and daughters raped, and their homes destroyed or confiscated. And when politicians from France, Italy, Germany and other countries offer us to lay down our arms, agree to lose territories, provide Russia with some security guarantees (absurd !!! Russia does not need any security guarantees, its neighbors need guarantees from the threat from them ) ... Then I feel anger and deep disgust. I loathe these insignificant people who, because of their prejudices or Putin's dirty money, are ready to doom my country to takeover, to a slow and painful death. Disgust and anger at those who have great opportunities to help overcome the crisis, but instead seek, consciously or unconsciously, to deepen it. Because even the complete capitulation of Ukraine will not solve the problem of world security. On the contrary, it will push Russia into new conquests. We do not need offers to surrender. If you are not ready to fight with us against a rabid enemy, then help us with weapons, money, sanctions. We need a lot to defeat Russia and thus drastically reduce the global crisis. But we have the main thing - motivation. We have historians who are ready to sleep in boxes of five people in two beds and knead the mud for weeks without being able to wash. We have accountants who are ready to eat only porridge with stew for months. We have young students who spend their best years at risk of death. And they will not go anywhere - unless they are all killed. With your consent. Ukraine will fight either to victory or until it can resist. And what will you do? Sincerely, Candidate of Historical Sciences, writer, author of six books, currently a junior sergeant of the Armed Forces Nazar Rozlutsky. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 11:19:03 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryGoing with fake. Very similar smoke mechanics to DCS in regard to the missile impact. Also they are flying higher than I’d expect to avoid SAMs. It’s perfectly possible for the 29 to take out a 35 because they are likely going to be in a knife fight in a phone booth situation and the first that gets off a missile that tracks is likely going to win. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 11:21:16 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Billy_Ringo: Any timetable as to when these will start delivering product? At what point will Russia diminish their weapons stash, military production capabilities and manpower that they will become a target beyond the Ukrainian battlefield? China has to be licking their chopsticks. (With apologies for the terrible pun.) Are they just assuming the threat of nukes will make them untouchable? They have already pulled forces and military hardware from many of their remote outposts like Syria as to have their more global influence significantly neutered. Making those countries way more vulnerable. There is no win for Russia at this point, only Putin's ego. Kill Putin's ego, end the war. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Billy_Ringo: Originally Posted By sq40: We are, and the new fabs will be cutting edge. Intel is investing $100bln to build 8 fabs in Columbus OH alone. TSMC is building a $12bln ultra advanced fab in AZ. The future is bright for US tech manufacturing. Any timetable as to when these will start delivering product? At what point will Russia diminish their weapons stash, military production capabilities and manpower that they will become a target beyond the Ukrainian battlefield? China has to be licking their chopsticks. (With apologies for the terrible pun.) Are they just assuming the threat of nukes will make them untouchable? They have already pulled forces and military hardware from many of their remote outposts like Syria as to have their more global influence significantly neutered. Making those countries way more vulnerable. There is no win for Russia at this point, only Putin's ego. Kill Putin's ego, end the war. 2025 for Intel, https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-21/intel-plans-to-spend-20-billion-on-ohio-chipmaking-hub?utm_source=google&utm_medium=bd&cmpId=google 2024 for TSMC, https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tsmc-will-reportedly-move-equipment-into-arizonas-fab21-in-q1-2023 |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 11:22:36 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sq40: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-mercenaries-face-death-pro-27086999 Two British ‘mercenaries’ who fought for Ukraine were today told they face the death penalty at the hands of pro-Putin separatists. Captives Shaun Pinner, 48, and Andrew Hill, 35, are to be put on trial in self-styled Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR). Pro-Russians are feared to be aiming to stage a show aimed at maximising concessions in Britain. If convicted, the maximum penalty is execution - believed to be by gun shot - for conducting “combat operations” against the pro-Putin region, said a local law enforcement official. Absent for unexplained reasons from the list of those to be tried was British "mercenary" Aiden Aslin, 28, who had been also detained by pro-Russian forces. The UK should say nothing but make them pay in blood. Create a PMC, let SAS members join and debadge a few vehicles a la Wagner and put a trophy requirement on each member to get paid. |
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Posted: 5/29/2022 11:33:00 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Saw that too https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/4CABEE51-7E77-480D-B656-5822D8CA3F1D_jpe-2400765.JPG That is awesome news! That is enough to equip an entire battalion. The Krab is part South Korean K9 Thunder, part British AS-90. Next to the PzH-2000, it is as good as any self propelled howitzer out there. It has a L52 barrel, giving it better range than the shorter L39 barrel on the American M109 and M777. It also has a higher rate of fire than the M109. The Krab is first rate equipment, exactly what Ukraine needs. While on the surface it may not seem like all that much, collectively, these donations are becoming a big deal. The U.S. and Canada have sent 5 or 6 battalion sets of M777 howitzers. Now the Poles have sent a battalion of modern tracked SPH. The Germans and Netherlands have contributed upwards of a battalion of PzH-2000 tracked SPH. Denmark has sent 10 M109 SPH. France has committed a number of CAESAR SPH. The UK is providing some of their AS-90 SPH. Italy has sent the FH-70 towed 155mm guns. Put together, these donations amount to a couple of brigades or more worth of modern western artillery systems. Now we need to get the M270 and/or M142 MLRS systems flowing into Ukraine, while encouraging other western nations who possess these type of systems to do likewise. |
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