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Posted: 5/19/2022 6:34:46 PM EDT
Live: Watch live as an Atlas 5 rocket gets ready to launch Boeing's Starliner capsule De-orbit/landing webcast: Boeing #Starliner Spacecraft Deorbit Burn and Landing (Official NASA Broadcast) |
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That drastic diameter changed is what I see when I'm short on science points in Kerbal Space Program.
Kharn |
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It's about time. SpaceX has been doing this for how long now?
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My favorite comment in that live stream, after BECO...
"When do they switch to the landing cameras for the booster?" FULA. |
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Quoted: ULA can hit orbit any day they want. That's thousands of m/s ahead of Bezos. Kharn View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It looks like an enormous, Wang! ULA can hit orbit any day they want. That's thousands of m/s ahead of Bezos. Kharn Of course! But I was talking about the flying dildo look... |
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I love legacy launches like this. It takes me back to the stories about rockets my grandpa used to watch.
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Quoted: I'm in the same boat. I divested all my Boeing before they shit the bed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I hope it blows up. I'm in the same boat. I divested all my Boeing before they shit the bed. What did they do? I don;t know what's going on here. |
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Quoted: I'm in the same boat. I divested all my Boeing before they shit the bed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I hope it blows up. I'm in the same boat. I divested all my Boeing before they shit the bed. What did they do? I don;t know what's going on here. |
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Quoted: I love legacy launches like this. It takes me back to the stories about rockets my grandpa used to watch. View Quote It's really curious to think they are intending to continue on like this at ULA for the foreseeable future. SpaceX is like seeing diesel locomotives while an Atlas looks downright steam powered. |
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Quoted: What did they do? I don;t know what's going on here. View Quote They got paid double what SpaceX did to develop their crew capsule and still fucked up their first attempt (a few years ago) so badly that NASA had to develop of a massive laundry list of fixes that had to be completed before they'd be allowed to try again. And they directly intervened to double check their programmer's work. And Boeing had the gall after that fiasco to hold their hat out and demand more money. |
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looks like orbital burn was good. 24 hours to go to reach ISS
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Quoted: We know ULA will do their job. It's after separation/insertion that we need to watch. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Well it made it. We know ULA will do their job. It's after separation/insertion that we need to watch. Yep. Confirmed good (nominal) orbital insertion burn. |
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Quoted: Yep. Confirmed good (nominal) orbital insertion burn. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well it made it. We know ULA will do their job. It's after separation/insertion that we need to watch. Yep. Confirmed good (nominal) orbital insertion burn. |
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They are terrible when it comes time to pay their vendors. It's a sham.
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Remember the Apollo's ... Damn I've got to put watching a launch on my bucket list
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How many million more did that cost than Space X?
Hilarious they had an animation and their camera looked to be standard def when it was on. SpaceX has much better cameras. |
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Quoted: How many million more did that cost than Space X? Hilarious they had an animation and their camera looked to be standard def when it was on. SpaceX has much better cameras. View Quote As of 2019, estimated at 345 mil per Boeing Starliner flight versus 209 mil per Spacex Crew dragon flight. But I believe that was before the failed OFT-1 uncrewed demonstration flight in December of 2019. IIRC, Boeing went crying to NASA afterward that they needed more money or else they'd pull out of the commercial crew program. For which I think NASA gave them an unsolicited request for proposal for some further business that they did not also SpaceX. going from memory here. Not sure what ever came from that. In real terms, I suspect there's no way for us to easily know what the Boeing Starliner is actually costing per flight. |
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Quoted: As of 2019, estimated at 345 mil per Boeing Starliner flight versus 209 mil per Spacex Crew dragon flight. But I believe that was before the failed OFT-1 uncrewed demonstration flight in December of 2019. IIRC, Boeing went crying to NASA afterward that they needed more money or else they'd pull out of the commercial crew program. For which I think NASA gave them an unsolicited request for proposal for some further business that they did not also SpaceX. going from memory here. Not sure what ever came from that. In real terms, I suspect there's no way for us to easily know what the Boeing Starliner is actually costing per flight. View Quote Quick look at the numbers says starliner at over twice the cost of all crew dragon program (including all it manned missions) to date. |
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Quoted: Quick look at the numbers says starliner at over twice the cost of all crew dragon program (including all it manned missions) to date. View Quote The real fun part is that it launches from a booster (Atlas/Centaur) we're basically out of, and not making any more. It'll have to be modified and retested for either the new Vulcan/Centaur, if Blue Origin ever gets BE-4 production going at any real volume; or the Falcon 9 or Falcon Heavy booster. It's too heavy for any other non-Russian booster currently in service, but might also be able to be used with Terran-R, or a future iteration of Neutron (with a bigger integrated fairing). Might be able to be used with the bigger Chicom or perhaps Indian boosters, too. |
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Quoted: The real fun part is that it launches from a booster (Atlas/Centaur) we're basically out of, and not making any more. It'll have to be modified and retested for either the new Vulcan/Centaur, if Blue Origin ever gets BE-4 production going at any real volume; or the Falcon 9 or Falcon Heavy booster. It's too heavy for any other non-Russian booster currently in service, but might also be able to be used with Terran-R, or a future iteration of Neutron (with a bigger integrated fairing). Might be able to be used with the bigger Chicom or perhaps Indian boosters, too. View Quote Japanese H-3 |
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Neutron doesn't have enough throw weight to carry Starliner, I think. It's too chonky. Possibly in an expendable configuration?
Perhaps Neutron might be scaled up? It's not even available in mock up form yet. |
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Quoted: I love legacy launches like this. It takes me back to the stories about rockets my grandpa used to watch. View Quote Rocket explosion compilation |
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Quoted: Neutron doesn't have enough throw weight to carry Starliner, I think. It's too chonky. Possibly in an expendable configuration? Perhaps Neutron might be scaled up? It's not even available in mock up form yet. View Quote Starliner is 13000kg, Neutron reportedly will have a throw weight of 15000kg to LEO. The problem would be the 4.5m integral, non-disposable fairing, which will not fit the 5.03m-wide Starliner. |
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Quoted: Starliner is 13000kg, Neutron reportedly will have a throw weight of 15000kg to LEO. The problem would be the 4.5m integral, non-disposable fairing, which will not fit the 5.03m-wide Starliner. View Quote If Neutron is fitted with a capsule they will be removing the faring for that flight. Also, apparently Starliner is having engine issues. Latest glitch with Boeing Starliner! Why did NASA let this thing dock with ISS? I've been talking to friends about the differences between Starliner and Dragon. I would say that Starliner is like the Jefferson Airplane of space vehicles. Jefferson Starliner? |
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