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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
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It says it's been moved, but the link just takes me to the Community page. What gives?


This is now the active "shit (might be) is definitely happening in Ukraine" thread.

News links, thanks to BerettaGuy:
Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH

Kyiv Post

Ukrainian News

UKRInform

EUROMAIDEN PRESS

New Voice of Ukraine

Kyiv Independent

Ukraine World

InterFax Ukraine

UATV

Ukrainian Journal

Official Website of the President of Ukraine

Ukrainian Ministry of Defense

Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often.
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Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise.

New news link c/o berettaguy:

Ukrainian Pravda
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/

Stop fake, anti - disinformation site:
https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/
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Originally Posted By mbinky:
Besides some ATGM's, what exactly has Germany give to Ukraine that has exhausted their supplies?

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Their military was so neutered before the war they were training their Skelton army with broomsticks. We get don’t even have guns.

I do think they may be telling the truth. They haven’t spent anything on their military.
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


This dude explores similar bunker networks all over former USSR.

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Noooo shit, I've seen that video.

Never would have thought to connect the two
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Originally Posted By GreenMushroom:


He's correct. The naval and air campaign against Japanese commerce shipping did the most damage. What finally tipped the scales though was the Russian invasion of Manchuria. The irony right
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Garbage. Absolute trash.
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Originally Posted By Yobro512:



Garbage. Absolute trash.
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Originally Posted By GreenMushroom:


He's correct. The naval and air campaign against Japanese commerce shipping did the most damage. What finally tipped the scales though was the Russian invasion of Manchuria. The irony right



Garbage. Absolute trash.

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I want to throw carrots at them.
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Originally Posted By mbinky:
Besides some ATGM's, what exactly has Germany give to Ukraine that has exhausted their supplies?

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 They offered to sell the 100 Marders they couldn’t afford to supply to Ukraine to Greece. I’m laughing but it’s just 🤦🏼‍♂️
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:
Nope, he’s an MSNBC commentator who has done photo ops before, nothing to do with Ukraine/Russia or whatever, he’s not anyone to take seriously whatever your point of view. There’s way more SMEs for whatever flavor you prefer but he’s not even in the kiddie pool for secret squirrel shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x1FuH5wa2Q
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/442BF02D-ED23-4CFD-8989-FED9731A83D4_jpe-2354879.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/AD8A2AC0-DDC8-4496-AAD0-56A48FE03DCF_jpe-2354881.JPG
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Malcolm Nance’s Dd 214
Looks like some NSA and SECGRU stuff also
Link Posted: 4/19/2022 6:46:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mbinky:
Besides some ATGM's, what exactly has Germany give to Ukraine that has exhausted their supplies?

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lol seems cryptic, what can Germany provide that can be used in an "artillery engagement"
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What are they saying/singing?
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Originally Posted By mbinky:
Besides some ATGM's, what exactly has Germany give to Ukraine that has exhausted their supplies?

https://i.postimg.cc/8PJ0zx7g/Screen-Shot-2022-04-19-at-5-54-22-PM.png
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Is it possible that Bundeswehr is just as badly equipped and maintained as Russian, that's why they are dragging their feet as not to reveal the truth?
Link Posted: 4/19/2022 6:48:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Easterner:


Last I heard we have around 50,000 sitting on the bench, if needed, in our city. Nothing to pass out to arm us. Many of us have made other arrangements to defend our homes and families. Russia's best bet is to drop bombs, artillery, and missiles on us. They don't want to come walking in here.
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Just send 50 Level III plates to Ukraine via UnitedHelpUkraine.org.  Got a bunch of miscellaneous field gear going out next week. Hopefully it will make it's way to the somebody who needs it.
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That was very interesting. Probably over simplified but accurate.
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Originally Posted By Wreckshooter:


Chosin is as similar to Ukraine as D-Day was to Coachella. A total infantry army with light arms relying on numbers in open terrain versus a force with total air superiority, tanks, etc.
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If you don't count the 2500 tanks they had before the war and the divisions worth of Russian armor that was abandoned intact, true.

There isn't really anything similar to this.  They are heavily outnumbered but have more tanks then they started with because they are capturing the attackers tanks.   One side has surrendered a division of tanks while the other is fighting to the last man in a tunnel under a factory.  

There are really way too many variables to predict anything.

The Orc army doesn't want to be there.
New technologies much better then advertised
Ability of the Russians to adapt.
Ability of the West and the Ukrainians to train man and equip.


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Guess I shouldn't use the term "orc" anymore.
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Originally Posted By CharlieR:


If you don't count the 2500 tanks they had before the war and the divisions worth of Russian armor that was abandoned intact, true.

There isn't really anything similar to this.  They are heavily outnumbered but have more tanks then they started with because they are capturing the attackers tanks.   One side has surrendered a division of tanks while the other is fighting to the last man in a tunnel under a factory.  

There are really way too many variables to predict anything.

The Orc army doesn't want to be there.
New technologies much better then advertised
Ability of the Russians to adapt.
Ability of the West and the Ukrainians to train man and equip.


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Originally Posted By CharlieR:
Originally Posted By Wreckshooter:


Chosin is as similar to Ukraine as D-Day was to Coachella. A total infantry army with light arms relying on numbers in open terrain versus a force with total air superiority, tanks, etc.


If you don't count the 2500 tanks they had before the war and the divisions worth of Russian armor that was abandoned intact, true.

There isn't really anything similar to this.  They are heavily outnumbered but have more tanks then they started with because they are capturing the attackers tanks.   One side has surrendered a division of tanks while the other is fighting to the last man in a tunnel under a factory.  

There are really way too many variables to predict anything.

The Orc army doesn't want to be there.
New technologies much better then advertised
Ability of the Russians to adapt.
Ability of the West and the Ukrainians to train man and equip.



Russia does have total air superiority tho
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Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
Or he could be being very vague to make a boring pogue career sound badass.

Myself, I deployed with US Army Special Forces several times, Navy Special Forces once, and spent a great deal of time training at the US Special Forces School.

I was in an Airborne Signal unit in Ft. Bragg, and my above statement is 100% true, with no bullshit. Our unit had some unique equipment that no other unit had, not even 1112th (at the time). I never came anywhere near the fighting with any of those units, a few times I found myself a couple of miles away, and that was the closest I ever got to high speed low drag, but if I am vague it could lead a person to believe I was doing cool guy shit.
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:

Russia does have total air superiority tho
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It would be a stretch to say they have air superiority. Haven’t their latest model jets and helicopters been getting shot down left and right?
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:

Russia does have total air superiority tho
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
Originally Posted By CharlieR:
Originally Posted By Wreckshooter:


Chosin is as similar to Ukraine as D-Day was to Coachella. A total infantry army with light arms relying on numbers in open terrain versus a force with total air superiority, tanks, etc.


If you don't count the 2500 tanks they had before the war and the divisions worth of Russian armor that was abandoned intact, true.

There isn't really anything similar to this.  They are heavily outnumbered but have more tanks then they started with because they are capturing the attackers tanks.   One side has surrendered a division of tanks while the other is fighting to the last man in a tunnel under a factory.  

There are really way too many variables to predict anything.

The Orc army doesn't want to be there.
New technologies much better then advertised
Ability of the Russians to adapt.
Ability of the West and the Ukrainians to train man and equip.



Russia does have total air superiority tho

They have local air superiority only.
Link Posted: 4/19/2022 7:06:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:

Maybe - just to get things going - Ukraine could make some US pilots Ukrainian citizens.
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Originally Posted By iggy1337:
Welp Dutch.gov reported to have comfrimed the US is giving Ukriane fighters

I think the US just described giving Ukraine 'aircraft'

Good fucking hunting  

Maybe - just to get things going - Ukraine could make some US pilots Ukrainian citizens.


Whole damn squadron of F22s just defected to Ukrain, ground crews, supplies, and all??. That would be a headline.
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Originally Posted By 2tired2run:



If true that's impressive........
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I'm sure this is why russia is now using much larger bigger bombs on that structure. Probably some kind of bunker buster as well.
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Originally Posted By Featureless:
"Terror" directed at the Russian people has little value.  They can't change their government all that readily or quickly.  Offensive war directed at infrastructure, roads, railroads, bridges, airspace, that slows the flow of supplies to the front and soaks up resources in repairing and guarding that infrastructure is of value and could be exploited.  They (the exploited lower classes and regions) already know their sons aren't coming home from their two week Boy Scout Camp killing Nazis.  If the people of Saint Petersburg and Moscow were losing lights, had to recycle their toilet paper, miss the museums and operas, and began losing sons, then, things would change.
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Your average Russian soldier is binary.  He is generally useless and throughout much of Russian history has been an incompetent nicompoop that will surrender in large numbers  He is usually poorly educated, led, equipped, Id say trained but mostly untrained, and uninformed.  In fact, in Tannenburg, WWI, Finland, all of 1941, Afghanistan, he mostly sucks.

The radiation that turns him into the incredible hulk is when he thinks he is defending the Motherland.  Be it back to the wall at Moscow in 1812 or 1941 or Stalingrad.  Then he gets supermotivated and scornfully bitterly self-sacrificial.

Strictly for tactical reasons, outside of some very specific targeting like the oil refineries right over the border, targeting Russia proper, especially teh civilians that represent the Motherland,  is a bad idea.

The irony of course in all this is that the Russians are denying the Ukrainian culture, which makes them Russians, but the Russian goals, and tactics are creating a defensive force of Russo-Ukrainians with incredible courage.  It is like the Russians chose to play the role of the Germans in Stalingrad, writ large, and the Russians have turned Ukrainians into the defenders of Pavlov's house, writ large.
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Originally Posted By AKaTom:


Understood, I don't even own a computer anymore, typing this with my phone now.

As I said another member sent me a wiki link and it was very informative. No idea how accurate the info is but as others have mentioned what the hell Hungary and Austria!

Heck according to the wiki info most of South America and even China has done more than those two nato allies.

But who knows what goes on behind the scenes.
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Originally Posted By zach_:

Wasn't a jab. I can't copy links easily on my phone.


Understood, I don't even own a computer anymore, typing this with my phone now.

As I said another member sent me a wiki link and it was very informative. No idea how accurate the info is but as others have mentioned what the hell Hungary and Austria!

Heck according to the wiki info most of South America and even China has done more than those two nato allies.

But who knows what goes on behind the scenes.

No idea. From my couch, it is difficult to separate fact from fiction.
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Originally Posted By 13FoxVet:

Malcolm Nance’s Dd 214
Looks like some NSA and SECGRU stuff also
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All important stuff for Naval operations but he is not an SOF, infantry, CIA SAC-Ground etc. or the image he attempts to portray. Useful skills for a fight against Moscow and its allies? Sure, leading, advisingbor instructing UA in ground ops against Russians, Syrian ‘volunteers’ Chechens, etc? Nope
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Originally Posted By Javak:

Is it possible that Bundeswehr is just as badly equipped and maintained as Russian, that's why they are dragging their feet as not to reveal the truth?
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Originally Posted By Javak:
Originally Posted By mbinky:
Besides some ATGM's, what exactly has Germany give to Ukraine that has exhausted their supplies?

https://i.postimg.cc/8PJ0zx7g/Screen-Shot-2022-04-19-at-5-54-22-PM.png

Is it possible that Bundeswehr is just as badly equipped and maintained as Russian, that's why they are dragging their feet as not to reveal the truth?


https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/sicherheitspolitik-bundeswehr-hat-nach-schaetzung-vieler-experten-nur-fuer-einen-tag-munition/25017024.html?ticket=ST-7669164-pTgkYCRdDNcd2JW9smRO-ap5

Bundeswehr has ammo for one day.

German source from 2019, just use google to translate. Nothing has changed since then.



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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:

All important stuff for Naval operations but he is not an SOF, infantry, CIA SAC-Ground etc. or the image he attempts to portray. Useful skills for a fight against Moscow and its allies? Sure, leading, advisingbor instructing UA in ground ops against Russians, Syrian ‘volunteers’ Chechens, etc? Nope
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I feel you
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Pentagon press briefing on support and supply;

WATCH LIVE: Pentagon press secretary John Kirby holds a news briefing
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The CAR has a cluster.
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:



Oh sorry, that wasn't a dig on you- I sort of suspect wiki is correct and this dude is randomly pinning shit to his uniform. Maybe I'm off base, but a Surface warfare pin, dolphins, and a CAR just throw up red flags to me.


The CAR has a cluster.



I'm not familiar with that on CARs, only ever seen stars.
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Originally Posted By 74HC:

Interesting clump of medals.  Surface warfare and Dolphins, both silver.  No combat action ribbon that I can spot.  I cannot find any reference to the sub he served on and earned those dolphins.

Looks like a defense meritorious service medal and a sea service deployment ribbon among others.  Looks like usual fluff stuff for senior staff.

He definitely does have TDS, and he seems to be over there for the limelight.  Probably in the rear
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Originally Posted By 74HC:

Interesting clump of medals.  Surface warfare and Dolphins, both silver.  No combat action ribbon that I can spot.  I cannot find any reference to the sub he served on and earned those dolphins.

Looks like a defense meritorious service medal and a sea service deployment ribbon among others.  Looks like usual fluff stuff for senior staff.

He definitely does have TDS, and he seems to be over there for the limelight.  Probably in the rear



He's got a CAR over his right breast- I thought with a star.
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:

Pentagon spokesman John Kirby did not offer details on which countries provided aircraft, but acknowledged new transfers and said Ukraine had more operable fighter aircraft than it had two weeks ago
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But are there weapons to hang on the aircraft?
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
I'm ready to go to Ukraine and fix shit.

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I think they're taking stuff to Poland and elsewhere. Can probably do a lot more good there with more/better resources.
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Russia already gave a no-quarter order.  

Maybe the Turks could workout an escort by sea escape route? They did assist with the Muskova rescue.  Maybe that would be a workable solution.
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Hopefully the commie killing kind.
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Legit question that has cropped up in my mind-If they are still sucking on May 8, does he pop the big cork May 9 and go out in a blaze of glory while trumpeting his "killing the west"?

My psych nurse mind says yes.

There comes a point where the grandiose bi-polar crosses the line to prove he is Napoleon/Jesus/Satan.
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I've been saying from the beginning that this is
what he WANTS to do and he's just fucking around
to see what he can get away with. Playing.  For whatever reason,
he wants to be the guy that pushed the button.
I'm not looking forward to being right.
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Originally Posted By 13FoxVet:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YKhi9ITkRgA

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Shit even skipping over bread and butter SOF wheelhouse, a 13F or 11B/C 12 series 12B/21B and 19D would be pretty helpful to the Ukrainians over Nance going by his photo, as others have also noted. I think Florida Army National Guard was just there training, advising 2 months ago. I was attached to 2/124th inf right before my last separation {again from service} from my experience our NCOs are a very big difference in capability - talent compared to not all but many other nations forces. But I have zero time/experience in Ukraine. 2/124th did CJTF-HOA when I was attached.
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It seems Russias “massive offensive” has gotten them a few hundred kilometers here and there… lost them a few villages, and cost them a bunch more men and equipment.

I hope they blow their wad on this one and get pushed back home.
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Originally Posted By CharlieR:


The radiation that turns him into the incredible hulk is when he thinks he is defending the Motherland.  Be it back to the wall at Moscow in 1812 or 1941 or Stalingrad.  Then he gets supermotivated and scornfully bitterly self-sacrificial.

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In "Squad Leader," that was when they flipped to Bezerker mode.
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Russia already gave a no-quarter order.  

Maybe the Turks could workout an escort by sea escape route? They did assist with the Muskova rescue.  Maybe that would be a workable solution.
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Originally Posted By Zam18th:





Russia already gave a no-quarter order.  

Maybe the Turks could workout an escort by sea escape route? They did assist with the Muskova rescue.  Maybe that would be a workable solution.
I agree the Turks are the only ones that could swing it. They're in a position where the Russians do not want to piss them off.

That said, I highly doubt Russia would agree. I don't think they'll settle for anything other than extermination.
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Current political situation:
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Originally Posted By Zam18th:
I agree the Turks are the only ones that could swing it. They're in a position where the Russians do not want to piss them off.

That said, I highly doubt Russia would agree. I don't think they'll settle for anything other than extermination.
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Originally Posted By Zam18th:
Originally Posted By sq40:
Originally Posted By Zam18th:





Russia already gave a no-quarter order.  

Maybe the Turks could workout an escort by sea escape route? They did assist with the Muskova rescue.  Maybe that would be a workable solution.
I agree the Turks are the only ones that could swing it. They're in a position where the Russians do not want to piss them off.

That said, I highly doubt Russia would agree. I don't think they'll settle for anything other than extermination.


I agree.  Russia is out for blood, most especially AZOV blood.  If anything, killing them to the last gives them an out from a propaganda aspect.
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Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
Or he could be being very vague to make a boring pogue career sound badass.

Myself, I deployed with US Army Special Forces several times, Navy Special Forces once, and spent a great deal of time training at the US Special Forces School.

I was in an Airborne Signal unit in Ft. Bragg, and my above statement is 100% true, with no bullshit. Our unit had some unique equipment that no other unit had, not even 1112th (at the time). I never came anywhere near the fighting with any of those units, a few times I found myself a couple of miles away, and that was the closest I ever got to high speed low drag, but if I am vague it could lead a person to believe I was doing cool guy shit.
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Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:

Wiki says he only served on 1 ship, and it wasn't a sub.

Seems like he has no reason to lie about anything. Maybe some super secret squirrel stuff?
Or he could be being very vague to make a boring pogue career sound badass.

Myself, I deployed with US Army Special Forces several times, Navy Special Forces once, and spent a great deal of time training at the US Special Forces School.

I was in an Airborne Signal unit in Ft. Bragg, and my above statement is 100% true, with no bullshit. Our unit had some unique equipment that no other unit had, not even 1112th (at the time). I never came anywhere near the fighting with any of those units, a few times I found myself a couple of miles away, and that was the closest I ever got to high speed low drag, but if I am vague it could lead a person to believe I was doing cool guy shit.

Yeah, it's all how you say it.  I was a Counterintelligence
Special agent with a Top Secret (Special) security clearance.
There I was, bullets flying, hand grenades exploding, fighting
in the streets of Down Town Dallas.  My resume reads:  The
UNCLASSIFIED portion of my duties included..........
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:

Maybe - just to get things going - Ukraine could make some US pilots Ukrainian citizens.
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This is what I've been waiting for.  Just like the Russians
flew their jets in Vietnam.  It's all a fucking game anyway.
Link Posted: 4/19/2022 7:46:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By birdbarian:


I think they're taking stuff to Poland and elsewhere. Can probably do a lot more good there with more/better resources.
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I'm good with that
Link Posted: 4/19/2022 7:48:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:

Shit even skipping over bread and butter SOF wheelhouse, a 13F or 11B/C 12 series 12B/21B and 19D would be pretty helpful to the Ukrainians over Nance going by his photo, as others have also noted. I think Florida Army National Guard was just there training, advising 2 months ago. I was attached to 2/124th inf right before my last separation {again from service} from my experience our NCOs are a very big difference in capability - talent compared to not all but many other nations forces. But I have zero time/experience in Ukraine. 2/124th did CJTF-HOA when I was attached.
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I’ve gotten older out of shape and not up to date on anything FO related, I have the desire to go but I would absolutely add no value. If I were single without kids I’d still give it a go.
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