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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Beer_Slayer]
This is now the active "shit News links, thanks to BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH Kyiv Post Ukrainian News UKRInform EUROMAIDEN PRESS New Voice of Ukraine Kyiv Independent Ukraine World InterFax Ukraine UATV Ukrainian Journal Official Website of the President of Ukraine Ukrainian Ministry of Defense Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often. Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise. New news link c/o berettaguy: Ukrainian Pravda https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/ Stop fake, anti - disinformation site: https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/ |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:37:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:38:42 AM EDT
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This suggests that the Moskva didn't actually sink.
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:39:13 AM EDT
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E8 nearby.
Smile, wave. Middle finger. Just observing. Is that fire hot? Looks hot. Do you need help? Oh, look at the time, I have to be going. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:39:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Wow. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By M-1975:
Wow. He would have been sent to prison or shot anyway if he survived and went back to Moscow. Failure isn't treated well within |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:39:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:41:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: Add another high ranking officer to the kill list Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: Originally Posted By M-1975:
bah, just another 1st Captain. I want an Admiral damnit |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:41:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: Add another high ranking officer to the kill list But is it confirmed? I know many of the officers are. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:43:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Individualist: This suggests that the Moskva didn't actually sink.
I dunno man. Looks fake to me. 
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:46:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: He would have been sent to prison or shot anyway if he survived and went back to Moscow. Failure isn't treated well within Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By M-1975:
Wow. He would have been sent to prison or shot anyway if he survived and went back to Moscow. Failure isn't treated well within I can't believe a ship like that would be solo out there. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:48:05 AM EDT
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Did we discuss Cossack gundis capture? I really thought it would have been a bigger deal here?
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AL, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:48:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: But is it confirmed? I know many of the officers are. Unless somebody comes out with a picture of him sitting in a turkish tugboat, he’s dead. Either blown up, burned up, or shark food. Water temp alone would have finished off anyone who got in the water before the sun even came up that morning. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:50:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_: I can't believe a ship like that would be solo out there. Yeah that’s pretty crazy to me. We operate frigate-sized boats by themselves on law enforcement/counter narcotic patrols, but definitely not in to an ongoing warzone. They must have thought they were outside any strike range. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:55:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuhndog: Did we discuss Cossack gundis capture? I really thought it would have been a bigger deal here? yes we did and it is. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:56:43 AM EDT
[#14]
Reuters.
Ukrainians hang on at Mariupol steel plant "The Azovstal factory is an enormous space with so many buildings that the Russians ... simply can't find (the Ukrainian forces)," said Oleh Zhdanov, a military analyst based in Kyiv. /cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/NGTFN2NGNRIEJGGLDLEY33B2IU.jpg)
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:58:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuhndog: Did we discuss Cossack gundis capture? I really thought it would have been a bigger deal here? Absolute hero for just reapeating the shitty Russian grammar/spelling mistakes in that propaganda piece. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 8:58:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: So far Moscow and Saint Petersburg are untouched by the “special operation”. The illusion that there have only been 1500 Russians killed is still there as city kids aren’t drafted,this has been explained a couple times. If they start press ganging Moscow and Saint Petersburg’s children to what is finally getting called a war there might be some questioning of things. Russians don’t give a partial fuck if some village kid or a Tuvan/Buryat/Dagestani gets killed in Ukraine. They are going to have to ask themselves if their kids getting killed are worth it. The great big issue is that if he fully mobilizes then how does he back away from some of the rhetoric used to justify this regarding NATO and so forth? The possibility of a half million untrained conscript rush across my border is not zero. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Originally Posted By AnalogKid: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
What are they going to do...steal every kitchen sink from Moscow, stuff them into Bears then drop them on Kyiv? Because they don't have much left. If Putin resorts to whole-scale NBC attacks he's going to get his shit pushed in with a quickness. So far Moscow and Saint Petersburg are untouched by the “special operation”. The illusion that there have only been 1500 Russians killed is still there as city kids aren’t drafted,this has been explained a couple times. If they start press ganging Moscow and Saint Petersburg’s children to what is finally getting called a war there might be some questioning of things. Russians don’t give a partial fuck if some village kid or a Tuvan/Buryat/Dagestani gets killed in Ukraine. They are going to have to ask themselves if their kids getting killed are worth it. The great big issue is that if he fully mobilizes then how does he back away from some of the rhetoric used to justify this regarding NATO and so forth? The possibility of a half million untrained conscript rush across my border is not zero. And get ready for massive 1944 propaganda being played that Estonians are all Waffen SS super duper aryan master race that needs denazicfication. 🙄 |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:01:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: But is it confirmed? I know many of the officers are. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: Originally Posted By Chaingun: Add another high ranking officer to the kill list But is it confirmed? I know many of the officers are. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:03:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:03:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankyRay: Reuters. Ukrainians hang on at Mariupol steel plant "The Azovstal factory is an enormous space with so many buildings that the Russians ... simply can't find (the Ukrainian forces)," said Oleh Zhdanov, a military analyst based in Kyiv. https://www.reuters.com/resizer/XIhXrKxqbyC-lTzYt54pWdPtjlA=/960x0/filters:quality(80)/cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/NGTFN2NGNRIEJGGLDLEY33B2IU.jpg |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:04:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: How the fuck are these assholes still allowed on Twitter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By outofbattery: There was an editorial in a German paper about how when Steinmeier - a long time enabler of Putin - was told he wasn’t welcome to go to Kyiv the Baltic and Polish presidents should have also stayed home out of solidarity. They’re bonkers. The Russian embassy here had this to say about the protest in front of it: Yes,nothing but senseless and uncalled for Russophobia… https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/FE6EB205-5552-4139-BCB4-6AE21FE0B0D6_jpe-2349506.JPG How the fuck are these assholes still allowed on Twitter. I think it's actually more useful to keep them on twitter. If they weren't on twitter, most people wouldn't realize how much of their information strategy just relies on laughably transparent but consistently repeated lies. If there is any good thing that could come out of the last few years of "Russia, Russia, Russia!" nonsense, it could be that the Russian tactic of "no objective truth" (picked up and happily weaponized most readily by the left) could finally be under the scrutiny it deserves. We might actually see a shift more towards genuine journalism, where holding "the powerful" accountable becomes fashionable again. Just shutting the Russian MFA out works in the short term and feels good, but refuting such messages requires consistent work and effort, otherwise people will resort to lazy what-aboutism whenever a source or a message is silenced reflexively. We used to have government offices whose job it was to report news, counter adversary narratives, and even say a few good words about ourselves, but what do I know... |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:07:24 AM EDT
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The captain of the 1st rank of the cruiser "Moskva" sank along with the ship
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:12:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: Hopefully there is more re-supply. They still have sea access Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: Originally Posted By FrankyRay: Reuters. Ukrainians hang on at Mariupol steel plant "The Azovstal factory is an enormous space with so many buildings that the Russians ... simply can't find (the Ukrainian forces)," said Oleh Zhdanov, a military analyst based in Kyiv. https://www.reuters.com/resizer/XIhXrKxqbyC-lTzYt54pWdPtjlA=/960x0/filters:quality(80)/cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/NGTFN2NGNRIEJGGLDLEY33B2IU.jpg If Unkle Vlad goes off his rocker because of the Moskva's sinking, I'm betting he'll try using WMD on that complex. Probably chemicals first, as an intact facility would benefit Russia. If that doesn't work, his ego will compel him to go tactical nuke - and the plant is likely Ground Zero. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:16:17 AM EDT
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"In Rivna, a monument with Soviet technology was dismantled - a self-propelled gun mount
The local government promises that our Ukrainian equipment will stand in its place, protecting Ukraine from Russian occupiers. But the old "commemorative monument" will be transported to the Hill of Glory and set at its muzzle on Moscow - the cannons and tanks that are already on the memorial will be deployed in the same direction."  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:17:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Their line in the sand is raping toddlers but raping and killing everyone else doesn’t move the needle? Lol. Ok. The soldier publicly uploaded it to Telegram and used his identifiable info. Russia had to “act” like they were doing something. They will just tell him not to upload it next time. He will hang. Russia has justice. They got the soldier doing all of the raping in Ukraine. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:18:16 AM EDT
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So I'm seeing on telegram and some twat feeds, that Russia may "declare war" since Ukraine is fighting back , and (probably) sunk the Moscva.
What precisely changes there? Anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together can see this is a literal war and invasion. What does a deceleration do that a sepcial operation doesn't? Total mobilization? More forced conscription? Sounds like the fast track to a prelude to full war in Europe to me. Which may have been what they wanted all along. They know they can't compete conventionally with NATO. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:19:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:21:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ITCHY-FINGER]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: And get ready for massive 1944 propaganda being played that Estonians are all Waffen SS super duper aryan master race that needs denazicfication. 🙄 That would be an obvious sign for Estonia to get ready quick. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:21:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: So I'm seeing on telegram and some twat feeds, that Russia may "declare war" since Ukraine is fighting back , and (probably) sunk the Moscva. What precisely changes there? Anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together can see this is a literal war and invasion. What does a deceleration do that a sepcial operation doesn't? Total mobilization? More forced conscription? Sounds like the fast track to a prelude to full war in Europe to me. Which may have been what they wanted all along. They know they can't compete conventionally with NATO. If they declare full war, expect to see their bombers laying waste to entire cities. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:21:37 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:25:30 AM EDT
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"12-year-old Danilo with a cat in his ruined house near Chernihiv. After the shelling, his mother had to have her leg amputated."
 Attached File"Russia is preparing a new offensive, and witnesses of the occupation of cities, towns and villages by Russian troops, from which the Russians retreated, talk about life under siege. Despite the fact that people are forced to hide in cellars and basements and go almost without food, they manage to help the Armed Forces of Ukraine, passing the coordinates and the exact number of enemies to their army."  Attached File"This is how Nikolaev lives. If you didn't know, there has been no centralized water supply for the third day already. The stocks that the townspeople have made have already either run out or are nearing the end of many. All bottled drinking water in stores was sold out - only carbonated water remained in bottles with a capacity of one to two liters. Therefore, for many residents of Nikolaev, the problem of obtaining water became a priority this morning. Lines line up near springs. Many citizens come or walk directly to the river and collect water for technical needs.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:25:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: Add another high ranking officer to the kill list With their performance so far , do we really want to get rid of their officer core? |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:26:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: The Moskva incident is really interesting but I don’t think we can be certain it was an attack or an accident. A few points to consider: 12)The apparent Russian military response gives credence to the possibility that Moskva was sunk by a Ukrainian attack. If so, the sinking is a massive achievement and propaganda victory for Ukraine. I would even suggest that the timing of the (possible) attack was chosen to flip the propaganda script over losing Mariupol. Overnight the international storyline went from doom and gloom over the near-end of resistance there to stunned elation, showing that Ukraine’s propaganda game continues to be on point. Point 12 is the most important. Russian reaction was to pull ships further from shore. That says they were hit from the shore. It’s simple. Plus, their media double speaks that retaliation against Ukraine is demanded for the sinking… meaning they know it was sunk by enemy action. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:28:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Drakich: Russia has stated their goal is to basically overthrow the US and put us in our place. This is our fight whether or not we like it. China is doing it for them |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:28:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
I'm not sure I agree with this. But I doubt some poor peasant mother in Siberia was enthusiastic about her son getting drafted nor can she have any influence on the crooks that sent her son to die. Buy the Russia Army as a whole is one giant war criminal so maybe appropriate... |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:29:42 AM EDT
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"An abandoned field camp of the Russian military between Makarov and the village of Lipovka, Kiev region.
The Russians were forced to retreat from here in early April. The photo of what they left behind was taken by AIN.UA editor-in-chief Ilya Kabachinsky."  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:31:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:34:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I'm not sure I agree with this. But I doubt some poor peasant mother in Siberia was enthusiastic about her son getting drafted nor can she have any influence on the crooks that sent her son to die. Buy the Russia Army as a whole is one giant war criminal so maybe appropriate... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
I'm not sure I agree with this. But I doubt some poor peasant mother in Siberia was enthusiastic about her son getting drafted nor can she have any influence on the crooks that sent her son to die. Buy the Russia Army as a whole is one giant war criminal so maybe appropriate... I'm conflicted. The alternative is that families are not told of the loss and are lied to by the Russian government. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:34:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
10 minutes after reporting personally to Vladimir Putin the captain succumbed from a bullet wound to the head |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:35:42 AM EDT
[#39]
"Volunteers decided to check the Katsap plate, 5.45, 7.62 and .338."
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:35:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alaskanbred: If they declare full war, expect to see their bombers laying waste to entire cities. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alaskanbred: Originally Posted By cryo_tech: So I'm seeing on telegram and some twat feeds, that Russia may "declare war" since Ukraine is fighting back , and (probably) sunk the Moscva. What precisely changes there? Anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together can see this is a literal war and invasion. What does a deceleration do that a sepcial operation doesn't? Total mobilization? More forced conscription? Sounds like the fast track to a prelude to full war in Europe to me. Which may have been what they wanted all along. They know they can't compete conventionally with NATO. If they declare full war, expect to see their bombers laying waste to entire cities.
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:36:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: "An abandoned field camp of the Russian military between Makarov and the village of Lipovka, Kiev region. The Russians were forced to retreat from here in early April. The photo of what they left behind was taken by AIN.UA editor-in-chief Ilya Kabachinsky." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-04-15_05-44-14_jpg-2349727.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-04-15_05-44-13_jpg-2349728.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-04-15_05-44-11_jpg-2349729.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-04-15_05-44-10_jpg-2349730.JPG |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:39:44 AM EDT
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"Rail War" continues to gain momentum in Russia: successful sabotage on Russian railways have already taken place in 4 regions
This was reported by @belzhd_live. It is known that on the Moscow Railway for the last 2 weeks rail guerrillas conducted successful actions on the unsuitability of railway tracks in the Bryansk, Orel, Smolensk and Kursk regions. For this purpose, in particular, special devices are installed in the relay cabinets of the SCB, which work on a timer and completely burn out the internal equipment of the relay cabinet. The horde will fall, it's a matter of time."  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:43:49 AM EDT
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"Police in Chernihiv region found an abandoned Russian ammunition depot
Thus, 170 mortar mines of 120 mm caliber were found. The ammunition was found {made?} in 1986. The issue of transferring the found ammunition to the Armed Forces of Ukraine is currently being resolved."  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:44:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: And get ready for massive 1944 propaganda being played that Estonians are all Waffen SS super duper aryan master race that needs denazicfication. 🙄 Please, by the time this war ends Russia will have trouble fending off an invasion by an all girls elementary soccer team! |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:48:25 AM EDT
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Vlad's snit?
April 15 (Reuters) - Ukraine's defence ministry spokesman Oleksandr Motuzyanyk said on Friday that for, the first time since the start of its invasion, Russia used long-range bombers to attack the besieged port city of Mariupol. Motuzyanyk said Russia was concentrating its efforts on seizing the cities of Rubizhne, Popasna and Mariupol. Ukraine says Russia used long-range bombers on Mariupol; 1st time in war |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:49:44 AM EDT
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Russia's national identity is war?
Yes. Yes it is. Always has been.. And theres really only one solution for that. We should do as much as possible NOW to destroy as much of thier capabilities as we can before hand. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:50:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryRandom comments: 1) I can't believe how shitty the video from their FLIR turret looks. Like something from 1991.  2) I can't believe how much oscillation seems to occur in their wing pylons. I have seen them shake almost as much in flight too. Can anyone(@AeroE) confirm/explain if that's on purpose? I know F-16 wings do better with some load on them, but Jesus, those pylons on the Ka-52 are just flopping around. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:51:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: I'm conflicted. The alternative is that families are not told of the loss and are lied to by the Russian government. Well, I am more unsure if the tactic will hurt or help their domestic war support. It could go either way. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:51:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: "An abandoned field camp of the Russian military between Makarov and the village of Lipovka, Kiev region. The Russians were forced to retreat from here in early April. The photo of what they left behind was taken by AIN.UA editor-in-chief Ilya Kabachinsky." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-04-15_05-44-14_jpg-2349727.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-04-15_05-44-13_jpg-2349728.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-04-15_05-44-11_jpg-2349729.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-04-15_05-44-10_jpg-2349730.JPG Are you sure that isn't Seattle ? |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:52:16 AM EDT
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I love the headline.
German Vice-Chancellor Robert Habeck has called on the public to cut energy use and stop using cars to help wean their country off Russian oil and gas. "If you can take the train or bike over Easter, that's good too: it's easy on the wallet and annoys Putin," said Mr Habeck, who is also economics minister and co-leader of the Greens. Germany has resisted European calls for a ban on Russian energy. Ukraine's president has criticised the stance of both Germany and Hungary. "We need to talk together with these countries on how it's possible for there to be different attitudes to this issue - the oil embargo within the European Union," Volodymyr Zelensky told the BBC. He has argued that Russia does not need to take peace talks seriously because of the billions it receives from oil exports. Some of Ukraine's friends and partners now understood it was an issue of survival for Ukraine, he said. Although German imports have fallen this year, it still gets a quarter of its oil and 40% of its gas from Russia. It has already halted the opening of a big Russian gas pipeline, Nord Stream 2, in response to the war. Earlier this week, German economic institutes warned that immediately halting Russian imports would spark a sharp recession in Europe's biggest economy by 2023. Amid EU pressure to ban Russian oil, Chancellor Olaf Scholz has indicated that Germany could do so by the end of this year. However, some members of his coalition from the Greens and business-friendly FDP have accused him of failing to show leadership. The head of parliament's defence committee, Marie-Agnes Strack-Zimmermann, who was part of a German delegation visiting Kyiv this week, said Germany's old, rigid world view had collapsed. "Now is the time to lead and by doing so move forward together with our coalition," she added. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba has appealed to Berlin to make a quick decision on sending further heavy weapons. "Germany plays a leading role in Europe and we are counting on this leadership," he told German TV. "We are paying the price with people's lives," he said, adding that if Germany had changed its approach earlier then war could have been prevented. |
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