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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Beer_Slayer]
This is now the active "shit News links, thanks to BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH Kyiv Post Ukrainian News UKRInform EUROMAIDEN PRESS New Voice of Ukraine Kyiv Independent Ukraine World InterFax Ukraine UATV Ukrainian Journal Official Website of the President of Ukraine Ukrainian Ministry of Defense Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often. Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise. New news link c/o berettaguy: Ukrainian Pravda https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/ Stop fake, anti - disinformation site: https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/ |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:00:56 PM EDT
[#1]
Die Orcs.
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:01:53 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amendment: Aussie and NZ elites won't let their peasantry have arms There are plenty of arms in ANZ. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:13:02 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/17F21154-F394-4E52-AB38-F05E224EF664_jpe-2335047.JPG Everybody in this thread probably knows but cargo 200 is dead,cargo 300 is wounded. What a way for officers to inspire their men. You love to hear it! |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:15:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: @realwar I don’t think there is any video evidence that an active MBT has engaged another except maybe some pictures. I’d caution against reading too much into that, the tanks are in active duty formations which have produced dramatically less content. There’s one tank brigade near Sumy that was outnumbered 3.3:1 at least and held for a month. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:16:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 715700]
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Rucksacks and guns dropped by retreating orcs before they cross a river. VDV kit and AK12s showing that they were obviously the 3rd tier troops only being used for a feint…
Do you want to see the cringiest propaganda short ever filmed for Twitter? Of course you do.
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:18:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: THOT_Vaccine]
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One of the things about nuclear weapons that third-world shitholes don't really understand is how much maintenance they require. They have to be constantly cared for because they are always in the process of destroying themselves. Everything about them decays and falls apart. The maintenance is frequently more costly in terms of knowledgeable man hours than their original creation.
I've seen tons of news about Russian whizbangery tests and verification... what I've not seen in a very long time is any sort of verification that the crap they produced in the 90's (every actual warhead) will even go bang anymore. Am I wrong? If not, then the whole "We will fucking murder the whole world" threat is just epic buffoonery. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:19:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Guess that sums up how the peace talks will go. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By realwar: 'There is no outcome other than victory!' Defiant Zelensky says that Ukraine will NEVER concede Crimea or any other territory and his people will not accept anything less than the defeat of invading Russia  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgxJwmL2_h0A defiant Volodymyr Zelensky says that Ukraine will never concede any other territory and his people will not accept anything less than the defeat of Russia. In a new interview with Fox News' Bret Baier the Ukrainian president explained what a true victory for his war-torn country would look like. 'A victory of truth means a victory for Ukraine and Ukrainians,' Zelensky told the Special Report host. 'The question is when it will end. That is a deep question. It's a painful question. Besides victory, the Ukrainian people will not accept any outcome.' 'We do not trade our territory,' Zelensky told Baier. 'The question of territorial integrity and sovereignty is out of discussion.' Over a month into the invasion Zelensky reiterated his desire for Ukraine to join NATO. 'It's hard for us to talk about NATO because NATO doesn't want to admit us,' Zelensky said. 'I think it's a mistake because if we join NATO, we make NATO much stronger. We are not a weak state. We are not proposing to make us stronger at the expense of NATO…We are an addition, we are the locomotive. I think we are one of the important components of the European continent.' More Guess that sums up how the peace talks will go. Ukraine would be fools to give up any of their territories so I'm glad to hear they stand strong on that. In the end it doesn't even matter how the "peace talks" go because Russia never honors their agreements. Russia's "word" even in writing means less than shit. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:19:57 PM EDT
[#8]
Did Russia Want to Take Kiev? That Was Never the Plan Says Russia
 Did Russia Want to Take Kiev? That Was Never the Plan Says Russia |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:24:59 PM EDT
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Anyone else get the feeling that many Europeans, even those actively fighting, seem to see this conflict as fantasy and a stage production? They can't report on a battle without a shit ton of music added to the narrative, as if they're trying to get movie production status. Even where there are dead soldiers and civilians, they always add some kind of music as if it were a video game.
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:25:44 PM EDT
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Translation: Russian paratroopers landed again
 ????????? ????????? ???????????? ????????... Trans: Yak Russians from the Kiev region flew  ?? ?????? ? ???????? ???????? The Russian army fled from near Kyiv because it was in hell  ?????????? ????? ??????? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ???????? ? ???! |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:26:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Rucksacks and guns dropped by retreating orcs before they cross a river. VDV kit and AK12s showing that they were obviously the 3rd tier troops only being used for a feint…
Shame they don’t have alligators in Ukraine… 
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:26:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Russia under Putin would be stupid enough to trigger a nuclear holocaust over Ukraine. The West is engaging Russia in a proxy war on its own border under the mutually accepted “rules” that have governed proxy wars for the last 75 years. The West (IMO) are supplying effective weapons in mass quantities while trying to manage the risks of escalation beyond proxy war. The West is doing this with the ultimate hope that Putin is replaced with a more reasonable leader. That is the best case scenario. The worst case scenario is that Russian opposition fails to materialize and the war escalates anyway. Western response to that obviously remains unknown and hypothetical. However, I strongly suspect that the West is prepared to act decisively when necessary. Putin has shown himself to be an existential threat to Europe and the US. The Western governments will never admit it, but a first strike has to be on the table right now. Not with fhb as president. He will never launch. He and the party are afraid of going down in history as the instigators of a nuke exchange. Remember, as Putin and company mentally live in fantasy land yet make decisions in reality, so does fjb and the democrats. Different fantasy but shared reality. Thus, as the well seasoned meme goes "never underestimate fjb ability to f##k things up. If decisioning in reality is required, guaranteed fjb will f#ck it up. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:26:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Did Russia Want to Take Kiev? That Was Never the Plan Says Russia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFSV6RTIjnEOut of curiosity, do you personally believe it was never the plan? |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:27:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: @realwar I don’t think there is any video evidence that an active MBT has engaged another except maybe some pictures. Yes, but hard to see/highly edited down. I think when this is over we will see thousands of hours of high quality video we haven't seen yet. The Ukrainians are very careful to release minimal information/videos, and much of the population is compliant to help out. I can't easily find them, but there's been at least one t64 hitting a Russian t72, and a few t72s firing and killing Ukrainian tanks. Then of course we have the azov bdrm4 killing two ifvs and a t73 all on ir cams. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:27:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: One of the things about nuclear weapons that third-world shitholes don't really understand is how much maintenance they require. They have to be constantly cared for because they are always in the process of destroying themselves. Everything about them decays and falls apart. The maintenance is frequently more costly in terms of knowledgeable man hours than their original creation. I've seen tons of news about Russian whizbangery tests and verification... what I've not seen in a very long time is any sort of verification that the crap they produced in the 90's (every actual warhead) will even go bang anymore. Am I wrong? If not, then the whole "We will fucking murder the whole world" threat is just epic buffoonery. Well, the problem with that is, you only get one chance. If you test it, and you're wrong, suddenly we're all living Fallout 4. Even if only 10% work, you're still talking about uncountable millions of dead, during and after. And I'd be willing to stake Feed them weapons and help. Slowly ramp that up, clicking the ratchet notch by notch, and watch Russia bleed, as opposed to just starting WWIII, conventional or nuclear. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:29:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
Bunch of low life crooks like their leaders in moscow. Except they steal billions from their own people. Their judgment will come. By your stubbornness and impenitent heart, you are storing up wrath for yourself for the day of wrath and revelation of the just judgment of God, who will repay everyone according to his works: eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good works, but wrath and fury to those who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness. Yes, affliction and distress will come upon every human being who does evil, Jew first and then Greek. But there will be glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, Jew first and then Greek. There is no partiality with God. Roman's 2:5-11 
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:30:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Piratepast40: Anyone else get the feeling that many Europeans, even those actively fighting, seem to see this conflict as fantasy and a stage production? They can't report on a battle without a shit ton of music added to the narrative, as if they're trying to get movie production status. Even where there are dead soldiers and civilians, they always add some kind of music as if it were a video game. Have you watched anything else on tictok?  Instagram influencers making duckyface with shoddy plastic surgery and rented clothes. Social media is a toxic shitpile of shallow egos, and it's our own fault. Just like swedish death metal, and euro raves. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:30:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Rucksacks and guns dropped by retreating orcs before they cross a river. VDV kit and AK12s showing that they were obviously the 3rd tier troops only being used for a feint…
Do you want to see the cringiest propaganda short ever filmed for Twitter? Of course you do.
I have no idea what the significance is of an ak12. Is that a 12gauge? And therefore an indicator that it is little more than a prop? |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:30:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Rucksacks and guns dropped by retreating orcs before they cross a river. VDV kit and AK12s showing that they were obviously the 3rd tier troops only being used for a feint
Do you want to see the cringiest propaganda short ever filmed for Twitter? Of course you do.
Those Ak-12s would fetch a nice price here! |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:30:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CPT_CAVEMAN]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Did Russia Want to Take Kiev? That Was Never the Plan Says Russia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFSV6RTIjnEPossible. Out of 190k troops how many did they send to take it? Sarcasm. The convoy alone was supposed to have like 30-40k troops? Seems like an awful lot to send just for a head fake, plus the attempts to take the airfields early on. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:31:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HIPPO]
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:32:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Piratepast40: Anyone else get the feeling that many Europeans, even those actively fighting, seem to see this conflict as fantasy and a stage production? They can't report on a battle without a shit ton of music added to the narrative, as if they're trying to get movie production status. Even where there are dead soldiers and civilians, they always add some kind of music as if it were a video game.  JUNE 6, 1944 D-DAY INVASION U.S. COAST GUARD NEWSREEL WWII 87084 |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:32:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: grambosc]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paraflare: At about 0:45, a guy slips on the bmp and eats shit lmao. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paraflare: Originally Posted By sneedsville: https://streamable.com/h4ugo8 Haven't seen this one posted yet. Pretty good footage. At about 0:45, a guy slips on the bmp and eats shit lmao.  Good catch! I hope it was an Ivan |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:33:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Fucking orc shit Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Originally Posted By Chokey:
Fucking orc shit No hair, shoes or gold teeth??   
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:33:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:33:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Did Russia Want to Take Kiev? That Was Never the Plan Says Russia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFSV6RTIjnESounds like a way to save face (domestically) as they pull back. (Insert GWB Mission Accomplished gif here)
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:34:03 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
I feel sick. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:34:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
Damn |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:34:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I have no idea what the significance is of an ak12. Is that a 12gauge? And therefore an indicator that it is little more than a prop? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By outofbattery: Rucksacks and guns dropped by retreating orcs before they cross a river. VDV kit and AK12s showing that they were obviously the 3rd tier troops only being used for a feint…
Do you want to see the cringiest propaganda short ever filmed for Twitter? Of course you do.
I have no idea what the significance is of an ak12. Is that a 12gauge? And therefore an indicator that it is little more than a prop? Most modern AK variant in the Russian army, decent indicator these weren’t “B” team types. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:34:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I have no idea what the significance is of an ak12. Is that a 12gauge? And therefore an indicator that it is little more than a prop? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By outofbattery: Rucksacks and guns dropped by retreating orcs before they cross a river. VDV kit and AK12s showing that they were obviously the 3rd tier troops only being used for a feint…
Do you want to see the cringiest propaganda short ever filmed for Twitter? Of course you do.
I have no idea what the significance is of an ak12. Is that a 12gauge? And therefore an indicator that it is little more than a prop? Newest version of the AK. Not in the hands of most troops. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:35:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I feel sick. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
I feel sick.
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:35:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I have no idea what the significance is of an ak12. Is that a 12gauge? And therefore an indicator that it is little more than a prop? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By outofbattery: Rucksacks and guns dropped by retreating orcs before they cross a river. VDV kit and AK12s showing that they were obviously the 3rd tier troops only being used for a feint…
Do you want to see the cringiest propaganda short ever filmed for Twitter? Of course you do.
I have no idea what the significance is of an ak12. Is that a 12gauge? And therefore an indicator that it is little more than a prop? No, it's their newest iteration of 5.45 AKs. Their best model they have. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:35:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: x248716x]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery: Our border with Russia - that was our land across the river but we’ve conceded it  Attached FileIt’s true,this war couldn’t make Xi happier on every possible level. Also true: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/41D59CF3-3F5E-4A16-AB1D-895821E8B288_jpe-2334909.JPG |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:36:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: veritas8985]
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:37:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I feel sick. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
I feel sick. Any evidence of this yet? I do recall seeing a picture a few pages back of slaughtered civilians (couldn’t see if male/female) but one appeared to have hands tied behind back. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:37:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Capta]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Piratepast40: Anyone else get the feeling that many Europeans, even those actively fighting, seem to see this conflict as fantasy and a stage production? They can't report on a battle without a shit ton of music added to the narrative, as if they're trying to get movie production status. Even where there are dead soldiers and civilians, they always add some kind of music as if it were a video game. Not at all. You are seeing movie production values to reach as wide an audience as possible with the message you want to convey. I don’t think that means the people in or or near it don’t take it seriously. Look at the use of the word “orcs” to describe Russian invaders. This is a really brilliant propaganda weaponization of language, literature, and film. It uses the imagery of the excellent Peter Jackson films (with the books backing them up for those who read them) and makes a direct connection from that to Russian behavior in Ukraine. Ergo the Russians must be dealt with as orcs are dealt with. Whoever came up with that association deservers a fucking medal and a nice cash bonus, seriously. Calling Russians “orcs” - a non-existent fantasy trope - doesn’t mean that people don’t understand what “orcish” behavior is in the real world. I saw another video recently which uses a “soundtrack” that was extremely reminiscent of the original Terminator movie, while panning across scenes of widespread destruction. This brings an unconscious memory to mind of the post-apocalyptic scenes of Terminator 1 and conveys to non-Ukrainians that this could be you. Your cities will be turned into ruins unless Putin is stopped now. It’s an effective tool. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:38:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I feel sick. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
I feel sick. Thats some WW2 shit right there.
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:38:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I have no idea what the significance is of an ak12. Is that a 12gauge? And therefore an indicator that it is little more than a prop? No,it’s not a 12 gauge;it’s 5.45. I was being sarcastic,the only outfits that have got them yet are their best forces. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:39:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Waldo: Sounds like a way to save face (domestically) as they pull back. (Insert GWB Mission Accomplished gif here) Russia says the plan was to get their own people killed, re-unite all of europe against them, and absolutely destroy the mythos of the invincible russian army. Russia says the intended to convince the world they are bunch of incompetent clowns. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:39:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Originally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
I feel sick.
I don’t see the Russians wasting their time even burying them unless they were trying to cover something up and honestly I’m not sure they had time to do so. Weren’t Ukrainians burying dead in mass graves in some places like Kherson & Mariupol? |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:39:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Spade]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I have no idea what the significance is of an ak12. Is that a 12gauge? And therefore an indicator that it is little more than a prop? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By outofbattery: Rucksacks and guns dropped by retreating orcs before they cross a river. VDV kit and AK12s showing that they were obviously the 3rd tier troops only being used for a feint…
Do you want to see the cringiest propaganda short ever filmed for Twitter? Of course you do.
I have no idea what the significance is of an ak12. Is that a 12gauge? And therefore an indicator that it is little more than a prop? Newest AK variant. Supposed to allow the Russians to better mount optics and accessories. ETA: in all the vids showing AK12s I note that most of them don't have anything mounted. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:41:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Not at all. You are seeing movie production values to reach as wide an audience as possible with the message you want to convey. I don’t think that means the people in or or near it don’t take it seriously. Look at the use of the word “orcs” to describe Russian invaders. This is a really brilliant propaganda weaponization of language, literature, and film. It uses the imagery of the excellent Peter Jackson films (with the books backing them up for those who read them) and makes a direct connection from that to Russian behavior in Ukraine. Ergo the Russians must be dealt with as orcs are dealt with. Whoever came up with that association deservers a fucking medal and a nice cash bonus, seriously. Calling Russians “orcs” - a non-existent fantasy trope - doesn’t mean that people don’t understand what “orcish” behavior is in the real world. The Russians came up with it tbh. The Last Ringbearer |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:42:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: No, it's their newest iteration of 5.45 AKs. Their best model they have. Got it, I had it backwards. I was misled by "somebody" sarcasm. And now I look like an idiot. The fact that I am an idiot has no bearing on this.
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:43:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Put ICBMs all over the Pacific. Make China worried. We have slbms already all over the pacific |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:43:50 PM EDT
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Ghosts of Putin's Army: Columns of Russian armoured vehicles line the highways out of Kyiv in 'tank graveyards' as advancing Ukrainians find civilians shot with their hands tied behind their backs
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:51:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By W_E_G: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105614/41F3BA9C-54B2-4402-8C93-2F1C8F207372_jpe-2334820.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105614/8EEF348F-71CE-439E-93F2-3D6F54FC3A6E_jpe-2334821.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105614/B2DB2052-4519-4DD7-B4B3-BC54C5720694_jpe-2334822.JPG Maybe it's just me but hitting a target across the border of the enemy which is systemically destroying your country doesn't strike me as an 'escalation'. Typical liberal think. |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:52:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:56:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Did Russia Want to Take Kiev? That Was Never the Plan Says Russia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFSV6RTIjnE Attached File |
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Posted: 4/2/2022 1:57:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks like they got the Tin Man from the Wizard of Oz in the last pic.
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Posted: 4/2/2022 2:00:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: I've always wanted one of those Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
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