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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
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It says it's been moved, but the link just takes me to the Community page. What gives?


This is now the active "shit (might be) is definitely happening in Ukraine" thread.

News links, thanks to BerettaGuy:
Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH

Kyiv Post

Ukrainian News

UKRInform

EUROMAIDEN PRESS

New Voice of Ukraine

Kyiv Independent

Ukraine World

InterFax Ukraine

UATV

Ukrainian Journal

Official Website of the President of Ukraine

Ukrainian Ministry of Defense

Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often.
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Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise.

New news link c/o berettaguy:

Ukrainian Pravda
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/

Stop fake, anti - disinformation site:
https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/
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Originally Posted By netstorm:
They are sending in the garbage troops first so it's not surprising. Pretty sure they are human minesweepers and meatshields. We will see during round 2 if more optics come out.

Then again Russia has never had a problem throwing in meat shields with crap equipment, they just don't care who dies.
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Considering that many Russian troops seem to not want to be there I can’t see it playing too well when further waves move up and see those that already got murked.
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Originally Posted By RattleCanAR:

I can believe that is their plan.
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Originally Posted By RattleCanAR:
Originally Posted By thesilvercord:



I can believe that is their plan.


Yup and they might be reverting to their Syria tactics. Hitting the heating plant might show that. It’s winter and they turn out the lights and turn off the heat and the civvies unass the area. Then they level the place. It will be extremely sad if they do that to Kiev.
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Oh shit. Hopefully nobody was in those units
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Originally Posted By TripleC:
I just hope Putin doesn't throw a temper tantrum and uses the nasty stuff.
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I am concerned getting kicked out of swift, combined with turkey blockading the sea route, will cause him to do this. He could just stop, but the sunk cost fallacy exists for a reason, and he's sunk a lot of cost into this.
Link Posted: 2/26/2022 10:28:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigReb:


They are about to shell the shit out of kiev.

Try to make the Ukrainians negotiate.
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Yeah they had some guy on the news basically saying that Russia was stupid for trying to send troops in a city of millions. He then said that Russia will have to eventually level the city.
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Interesting photo of a guard at the airfield in Vasylkiv.   Wonder how many AR type weapons the Ukraine Army has.   Grabbed it from this feed:  https://twitter.com/jmscaronte/status/1497514673712812032

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Originally Posted By netstorm:
Telegram channel list with updates.

https://t.me/nkplus_ua
https://t.me/LastBP
https://t.me/MaksymZhorin
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Thanks. Telegram is even better than Twitter for “breaking” photos and videos.
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Dang. Something fucked that up what ever it was.
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Originally Posted By M-1975:
LOL I'm sure they'll get right on that:

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I don't see that happening.

They are on the wrong side of everything.
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Nyet, BBQ cages really are for BBQ comrade.

Those g'damn ugly things were emotional feel-good cushions for those tanker troops. Javelins and NLAWs laugh it off.
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Originally Posted By jerrwhy01:




At this point I’m not convinced that they’re as nuclear capable as we’ve been led to believe.

Their conventional forces are somewhat of a joke at this point. I think an ROTC cadet could have planned and executed this better than the Russian high command did. I’m almost convinced this Putin’s cabinet is telling what he wants to hear rather than what he needs to hear.

All of those things are leading me to believe that there’s a lot of bluffing taking place in regards to their military capabilities. I have to imagine that their nuclear forces are in the same predicament  
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Originally Posted By jerrwhy01:

Originally Posted By Dagger41:

Their threat is their nuclear capabilities.
They are proving once again that their war fighting logistics for ground game completely suck.
They are running around Ukraine like chickens with their heads cut off and turning themselves in to cannon fodder.



At this point I’m not convinced that they’re as nuclear capable as we’ve been led to believe.

Their conventional forces are somewhat of a joke at this point. I think an ROTC cadet could have planned and executed this better than the Russian high command did. I’m almost convinced this Putin’s cabinet is telling what he wants to hear rather than what he needs to hear.

All of those things are leading me to believe that there’s a lot of bluffing taking place in regards to their military capabilities. I have to imagine that their nuclear forces are in the same predicament  

Russian nuke capability has to be assumed intact. To do otherwise is insane.
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Originally Posted By netstorm:
The problem is, he can't retreat because he will look pathetic to his people and weak to his enemies.

His one option is to take Ukraine at this point.
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That place would end up a lot better if someone put a hole behind one of that fucker’s ears.
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:



the footage of the russian ka-52 being shot down in the lake near kyiv had all kinds of bright green grass around it.  could also be winter wheat.. but point of the matter is there is green grass in ukraine in the winter
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Originally Posted By AROKIE:
Originally Posted By Dagger41:
Originally Posted By Brok3n:
Originally Posted By Tech-Com:
If this is happening all over the country then I believe the air casualties.




https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/65378/13EAF4E9-6FC9-4699-9ECC-45B9FBDABAD1-2293439.jpg

I can never tell the Fulcrum and Flanker apart from a distance. Looks like a Fulcrum though. I hope it’s not one of their own..

That grass is quite green, almost like it was Summer...



the footage of the russian ka-52 being shot down in the lake near kyiv had all kinds of bright green grass around it.  could also be winter wheat.. but point of the matter is there is green grass in ukraine in the winter


There is dirt in the front that isn’t wet/mud.  Show me dry dirt in that area right now. Old picture
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Originally Posted By Glock63:

Send our aggressor squadron pilots over who are familiar with Russian aircraft. Volunteer of course.
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Oh man they'd nut for a AA kill in a Su/MiG.
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Originally Posted By PNWPatriot:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMhTV4aXMAUe-7m?format=jpg&name=large
https://twitter.com/jmscaronte/status/1497538519039975431?s=20&t=6ew1gY5TmEv6xizv3jYFqg
"The clownery of arresting "saboteurs" continues. This time, a whole group was captured near Nikopol, with Ukrainian "Malyukas" and equipment, and they did not even bother to take away the pistols and automatic rifles from all of them."

Interesting mismash of weaponry.

All the feeds from Sumy\Suma appear down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUkfhlIvvKQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTw3r4n3W4Y
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Um...is that a fucking Geissele URGI in the pile on the bottom right?
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Originally Posted By Solace22:



Now thats brutal
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At least they were kept warm during their final moments
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Originally Posted By M-1975:
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BMD3 or bmp 3
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:


Fox News is a 360 degree disappointment.  According to a post here, one reporter said that it's bad that Ukraine is passing out guns to civilians and that hopefully negotiations could stop the conflict. And their subject matter expert generals who said that Kyiv would fall in 24-48 hours and that Ukrainians would have to recognize the Kremlin's puppet.  Unreal. Too many dunce talkers on that channel when their reporters should be in the field with the video running another fucking mouths shut.its as bad as CNN just not dripping with leftism.
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
Originally Posted By civic96hb:
Originally Posted By lafirefighter:

While the means to accomplish such an objective are obviously being moved in. I really doubt that's what Putin wants. He was hoping Zelensky would flee and he'd be able to install a puppet president. Once Putin starts targeting non-military assets, obliterating cities, and killing civilians he will never be able to win the support of the Ukrainian people and will forever face insurgency. Such a strategy has to be his last option.

That’s why the talking heads on Fox were saying it’s easy to takeover Ukraine but harder to hold Ukraine


Fox News is a 360 degree disappointment.  According to a post here, one reporter said that it's bad that Ukraine is passing out guns to civilians and that hopefully negotiations could stop the conflict. And their subject matter expert generals who said that Kyiv would fall in 24-48 hours and that Ukrainians would have to recognize the Kremlin's puppet.  Unreal. Too many dunce talkers on that channel when their reporters should be in the field with the video running another fucking mouths shut.its as bad as CNN just not dripping with leftism.


People following Fox after coverage of the 2020 election are deluded. Fox was giddy calling states prematurely for Xiden. They shut down talks of Soros’ control. They’re trash.
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:


 I’m await a giant POP heard around the world as Western Europe pulls its head out of its ass.
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quite the opposite, i expect.   when everyone sees how the #2 army in the world is out of gas on the side of the road and can't even capture eastern ukraine, the left in europe will say, "see? there is no threat anymore" and cut defense spending to zero and make it a responsibility of local police.  

if they find out russia was a paper tiger, there could be some very interesting 2nd and 3rd order effects
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Originally Posted By SportsterGuy:
Despite what all you AK detractors are saying about the AK it certainly looks like old Mikhai's little creation will yet stand out as the hero once again, just sayin.
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Its the only rifle in theater.
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It's interesting that they are giving all the official smaller kink type guns. I guess it makes sense to have something compact in their situation.


I guess the narrative will change from nukes and f15s to we will supply you with guns if anything happens.
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:



 There were plenty of reports weeks ago that Russia had brought in a large amount of ammonia gas to stage an event. They may be getting ready to use it.


 I hope not but don’t know how NATO/EU could fail to respond after the “red lines” on chemical warfare in Syria,to say nothing of Europe.
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1. Troops should have protective masks as standard equipment - not a special issue item

2. Soviet doctrine was to use chem attacks when timetables were not being met in order to degrade enemy units.

3. Being as the Geneva Conventions prohibit chemical warfare this would be a big event. Previous by "non state actors" wink wink at least gave some fig leaf to pretend a signatory had not violated the accords, but this will be obvious that it didn't "just happen".
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Suka is bitch wolf. So basically 'bitch'.
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So i'm looking but did anyone ever post any photos/videos of the IL-76's that were supposedly brought down last night? I still can't find anything.
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Originally Posted By azerious58:
Man I gotta say I've been blown away by the bravery of Ukraine troops and civilians they are getting after it.

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Bravery + good training = deadly enemy
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:



  If they aren’t stopped in Kyiv I’ll have to fight them in Tallinn.
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WE will fight them in tallinn.

You ain’t alone
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Originally Posted By Stretchman:

They might be Russian separatists who are siding with the Russians. I think the Ukrainian truck driver was attacked for that reason too.

Hard to tell who's who in that.
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Originally Posted By Tech-Com:
An example of all the vehicles on the move at the moment. Tank Convoy
Crazy Ukranians driving past them.





They might be Russian separatists who are siding with the Russians. I think the Ukrainian truck driver was attacked for that reason too.

Hard to tell who's who in that.
A tank had an O on the side, no Z.  Don't know what that means
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord:


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/ED8640C7-5B1D-4741-A83F-D9D8086EF86A_jpe-2293570.JPG
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Note the shredded styrofoam for DIY napalm
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Is there any form of a front in this conflict, or is it pockets and corridors of Russian controlled space and pockets and corridors of Ukrainian controlled space.  I haven't seen any sort of illustration on this since some graphics published on night one.

Just wondering what the logistical situation looks like for Ukraine.  It is still possible to get men and materiel where it needs to be within the country and from the Polish border if that is where the majority of resupply is coming from.

It seems like the political will is growing to stock the Ukrainians with whatever they need to fight, but it has to get to where it needed, as well.

Godspeed Ukraine.
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I know its early, and I know that the information is all subject to verification, but in a way, Zelenskyy appears to be emerging as a modern day Leonidas. All I know of his leadership this past few days is through the lens of western media and social media....and if a fraction of it is true, he is a man among men and a leader that history will remember for generations.
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Originally Posted By crownvic96:
So i'm looking but did anyone ever post any photos/videos of the IL-76's that were supposedly brought down last night? I still can't find anything.
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This is what I found with a quick search, can't verify for certain.


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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:


Fox News is a 360 degree disappointment.  According to a post here, one reporter said that it's bad that Ukraine is passing out guns to civilians and that hopefully negotiations could stop the conflict. And their subject matter expert generals who said that Kyiv would fall in 24-48 hours and that Ukrainians would have to recognize the Kremlin's puppet.  Unreal. Too many dunce talkers on that channel when their reporters should be in the field with the video running another fucking mouths shut.its as bad as CNN just not dripping with leftism.
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I was struck by the parade of experts who all repeated, almost word for word, these lines. They didn’t come off like people who merely share an opinion the situation either.
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Originally Posted By Ben:



I'm not going to go back and check if it has already been explained, but would any of you like the reference here explained? The cultural background I mean?
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Originally Posted By Ben:
Originally Posted By solid:
Originally Posted By superspud:
**** pic request****

Thousands of pages ago I saw a drawing  / art work of a dead Russian soldier skeleton with sunflower growing out of its back.

Who knows what page it was on, but if someone can repost that I'll be forever grateful.

Id LOVE to get that on a shirt.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/87259/B98EB6D4-E08F-427C-9CE1-EEC6338E42D0_jpe-2293502.jpg

Just noticed already done above but leaving it up, that lady had zero fucks left.!



I'm not going to go back and check if it has already been explained, but would any of you like the reference here explained? The cultural background I mean?
@Ben

the story is an 'old' Ukrainian woman offered sunflower seeds to a russian soldier to put in his pockets. So that when he died in fields of Ukraine, sunflowers would grow there.
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Turkey has NOT closed the black sea to Russia:

Linky
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Originally Posted By Chaingun:
A tank had an O on the side, no Z.  Don't know what that means
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Originally Posted By Stretchman:
Originally Posted By Tech-Com:
An example of all the vehicles on the move at the moment. Tank Convoy
Crazy Ukranians driving past them.





They might be Russian separatists who are siding with the Russians. I think the Ukrainian truck driver was attacked for that reason too.

Hard to tell who's who in that.
A tank had an O on the side, no Z.  Don't know what that means
I've seen O,Z,V and diagonal stripes on tanks that might be similar to V
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Um...is that a fucking Geissele URGI in the pile on the bottom right?
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Originally Posted By PNWPatriot:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMhTV4aXMAUe-7m?format=jpg&name=large
https://twitter.com/jmscaronte/status/1497538519039975431?s=20&t=6ew1gY5TmEv6xizv3jYFqg
"The clownery of arresting "saboteurs" continues. This time, a whole group was captured near Nikopol, with Ukrainian "Malyukas" and equipment, and they did not even bother to take away the pistols and automatic rifles from all of them."

Interesting mismash of weaponry.

All the feeds from Sumy\Suma appear down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUkfhlIvvKQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTw3r4n3W4Y
Um...is that a fucking Geissele URGI in the pile on the bottom right?


It looks kinda like a NF Atacr optic on that rifle, as well.
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Originally Posted By jkitchen:

It's interesting that they are giving all the official smaller kink type guns. I guess it makes sense to have something compact in their situation.


I guess the narrative will change from nukes and f15s to we will supply you with guns if anything happens.
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Originally Posted By jkitchen:

It's interesting that they are giving all the official smaller kink type guns. I guess it makes sense to have something compact in their situation.


I guess the narrative will change from nukes and f15s to we will supply you with guns if anything happens.


I have a full auto Krink. Those things get HOT under sustained fire much quicker than my 74N.
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