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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
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It says it's been moved, but the link just takes me to the Community page. What gives?


This is now the active "shit (might be) is definitely happening in Ukraine" thread.

News links, thanks to BerettaGuy:
Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH

Kyiv Post

Ukrainian News

UKRInform

EUROMAIDEN PRESS

New Voice of Ukraine

Kyiv Independent

Ukraine World

InterFax Ukraine

UATV

Ukrainian Journal

Official Website of the President of Ukraine

Ukrainian Ministry of Defense

Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often.
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Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise.

New news link c/o berettaguy:

Ukrainian Pravda
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/

Stop fake, anti - disinformation site:
https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/
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Originally Posted By nickmemphis:

I'm not a super SME by any means but I've been around explosives my whole life; my dad worked in demo. A 50 pound warhead is going to be about 20% explosive and 80% casing. Maybe a bit more. It's going to be a high brisance secondary, a lot more boom per pound than something like commercial gelatin used where you can always just dig a bigger hole and pack more stuff in for a bigger boom. Call it 15lbs TNT equivalent napkin number estimate. Inside a 40 lbs mild steel casing, on bare dirt, I'm telling you it's not going to do much cratering with proximity fusing. It's made to make fast chunks of steel in the air that kill people, not make big holes in dirt that look bomby to the moviegoing public..
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I've always been curious about people who point to relatives as a qualification to know something.  I'm related to a brain surgeon. Doesn't make me a brain surgeon.  What's your training in explosives?
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How long it take them to turnkey a nuclear device? What kind of stockpile of U235 and Pu239 do they have, if any?

Aslong as they have the individuals with the knowledge, it might not take them long to build a few crude weapons.
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Originally Posted By Kokodude:
This whole Ukraine thing is a giant scam.
All of these arms being shipped over to one of the world's largest and most unethical arms dealers?
Putin is most certainly in on this one.
There'll be some type of "conflict" to justify the whole deal, everyone involved gets rich, and we are all suckers for buying in to the whole thing.
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Stop watching 007 movies, good grief
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Originally Posted By Jackal-FnM:
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I'm guessing that the meeting didn't go well.

This seems like a big deal.




Looks to be...

They gonna start lobbing Chernobyl rods at the Russia?

He clearly thinks they're full of shit:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-president-volodymyr-zelensky-sanctions-against-russia-before-possible-invasion-not-after/
"You're telling me that it's 100% that the war will start in a couple of days. Then what [are you] waiting for?" Zelensky said. "We don't need your sanctions after the bombardment will happen, and after our country will be fired at or after we will have no borders or after we will have no economy or parts of our country will be occupied. Why would we need those sanctions then?"

"So when you're asking what can be done, well lots of different things can be done. We can even provide you the list. The most important is willingness," he said.





Making valid points and don't blame him.
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Originally Posted By Wreckshooter:


How did you act the last time you were under artillery fire?
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Originally Posted By Wreckshooter:
Originally Posted By TheOldRepublic:
Press spooked by incoming artillery.

Eta: Fox sent a complete pussy to Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmsT9M25gxs


How did you act the last time you were under artillery fire?

Not like that.  Dude is a pussy.
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Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:

Not like that.  Dude is a pussy.
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Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:
Originally Posted By Wreckshooter:
Originally Posted By TheOldRepublic:
Press spooked by incoming artillery.

Eta: Fox sent a complete pussy to Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmsT9M25gxs


How did you act the last time you were under artillery fire?

Not like that.  Dude is a pussy.


I have a feeling that when it starts there will be press caught up in the monster smerch cluster bombardment.
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


I have a feeling that when it starts there will be press caught up in the monster smerch cluster bombardment.
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You say that like it's a bad thing!
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Originally Posted By Surtr:


How long it take them to turnkey a nuclear device? What kind of stockpile of U235 and Pu239 do they have, if any?

Aslong as they have the individuals with the knowledge, it might not take them long to build a few crude weapons.
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They could always load the Chernobyl elephant's foot into a trebuchet and lob that over at them...
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:



God Bless Estonia! Waaaaaaay bigger balls than Germany on this. I had an old friend 30 years ago who was of Estonian descent and he was pretty connected with the Estonian government and the American General who retired and became head of Estonian armed forces. I forget his name but he was the only American at the time (at that level) to get a military pension check from America as well as a military check from a foreign government.
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Aleksander Einseln. He was a veteran of Korea and Vietnam so had practical experience with fighting Communists. At the time the entire armed forces were so small they may as well have been nonexistent but it made sense to have someone experienced and not tainted by the Soviet system to build them.
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:



 
Aleksander Einseln. He was a veteran of Korea and Vietnam so had practical experience with fighting Communists. At the time the entire armed forces were so small they may as well have been nonexistent but it made sense to have someone experienced and not tainted by the Soviet system to build them.
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:
Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:



God Bless Estonia! Waaaaaaay bigger balls than Germany on this. I had an old friend 30 years ago who was of Estonian descent and he was pretty connected with the Estonian government and the American General who retired and became head of Estonian armed forces. I forget his name but he was the only American at the time (at that level) to get a military pension check from America as well as a military check from a foreign government.



 
Aleksander Einseln. He was a veteran of Korea and Vietnam so had practical experience with fighting Communists. At the time the entire armed forces were so small they may as well have been nonexistent but it made sense to have someone experienced and not tainted by the Soviet system to build them.


Yes! I remember also that Estonia purchased Galils from Israel at the time (ended up not happy with the sale terms according to my friend if I remember correctly) and received a large shipment of M14s from the US.
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Did she give putin a blowie?
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These people.

Russia is in the snap count at this point. She could channel Winston Churchill with her well used asshole and it wouldn't make a bit of difference.

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If Harris had a dick that dude would have sucked it dry.


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Originally Posted By rca2222:

If Harris had a dick that dude would have sucked it dry.


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??????/Soldat but you're observing another failed ceasefire in the Donbas
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Interestingly, I could listen to that.
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Sounds like it’s going down tonight.
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Originally Posted By Greyswandir:

Sounds like it’s going down tonight.
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Originally Posted By Greyswandir:
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:

Sounds like it’s going down tonight.

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The people on Twitter are delusional
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Originally Posted By FrankyRay:

But... they'll need more than wooden guns. I get it... they at least offer some form of familiarization, but damn.

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Originally Posted By FrankyRay:
Originally Posted By cryo_tech:
At this point every fighting age ukranian (16-62) Should be armed with a riifle and ammunition and have access to Javelins and Gustavs, with more MANPADS than you can ever find.

Let them come.

They will reach kyiv, but make them pay for every last inch and every hour.

Stack bodies.

But... they'll need more than wooden guns. I get it... they at least offer some form of familiarization, but damn.


One of my friends from college is Ukrainian and lives over there. From what I can tell he is as well armed as the typical arfcommer. AR, body armor, etc. don’t know how typical that is over there but he is a civilian
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Originally Posted By 32DOHC:
The people on Twitter are delusional
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Strwbryflds4evr
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@VP
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She has so much poise and grace. And smart as hell.

Funny how the clip was just some asshat saying how great she did. Wonder how many of the people commenting have or will watch her speech.

The world is laughing at us, making us look like fools, and Americans are cheering it on.

Shits crazy yo
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Originally Posted By 32DOHC:
The people on Twitter are delusional
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Originally Posted By 32DOHC:
Originally Posted By FrankyRay:


The people on Twitter are delusional

Sadly, that's not just "people on Twitter." At first glance I thought that was a parody, a joke, it was so ridiculous.

But no, that's Joel Rubin, Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State, Obama Admin. And he's dead serious.
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Well maybe don't play dress up and look like soldiers and you won't be targeted in a war zone..
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True!
I just fixed the link to the article.
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wait, wait.  Let me get a beer...
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More defenders of Christendom from the evils of Globohomo have arrived on the Ukrainian border.

 https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaK3hlSp60b/?utm_medium=copy_link

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Opening day of duck season?
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Originally Posted By 32DOHC:
The people on Twitter are delusional
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Originally Posted By 32DOHC:
Originally Posted By FrankyRay:


The people on Twitter are delusional

MSNBC sets the derp standard on the platform.


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edit; already posted.

Alleged reason for the anti aircraft fire.

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Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:


Second angle.

edit; already posted.
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Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


Second angle.

edit; already posted.


In the second video a bullet hit something. You can see it and hear it.
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Originally Posted By woozman:

One of my friends from college is Ukrainian and lives over there. From what I can tell he is as well armed as the typical arfcommer. AR, body armor, etc. don’t know how typical that is over there but he is a civilian
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Originally Posted By woozman:
Originally Posted By FrankyRay:
Originally Posted By cryo_tech:
At this point every fighting age ukranian (16-62) Should be armed with a riifle and ammunition and have access to Javelins and Gustavs, with more MANPADS than you can ever find.

Let them come.

They will reach kyiv, but make them pay for every last inch and every hour.

Stack bodies.

But... they'll need more than wooden guns. I get it... they at least offer some form of familiarization, but damn.


One of my friends from college is Ukrainian and lives over there. From what I can tell he is as well armed as the typical arfcommer. AR, body armor, etc. don’t know how typical that is over there but he is a civilian

I looked at that Tweet I posted again and realized the video was from RT. So... grain of salt, and all that.

Still, watch out for them badass babushkas.

Ukraine's Soldier Granny: Elderly woman says she will defend country from Russian invaders


That's 2015, btw.

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Originally Posted By FrankyRay:

I looked at that Tweet I posted again and realized the video was from RT. So... grain of salt, and all that.

Still, watch out for them badass babushkas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_a4AhXYDSg



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Originally Posted By FrankyRay:
Originally Posted By woozman:
Originally Posted By FrankyRay:
Originally Posted By cryo_tech:
At this point every fighting age ukranian (16-62) Should be armed with a riifle and ammunition and have access to Javelins and Gustavs, with more MANPADS than you can ever find.

Let them come.

They will reach kyiv, but make them pay for every last inch and every hour.

Stack bodies.

But... they'll need more than wooden guns. I get it... they at least offer some form of familiarization, but damn.


One of my friends from college is Ukrainian and lives over there. From what I can tell he is as well armed as the typical arfcommer. AR, body armor, etc. don’t know how typical that is over there but he is a civilian

I looked at that Tweet I posted again and realized the video was from RT. So... grain of salt, and all that.

Still, watch out for them badass babushkas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_a4AhXYDSg





Good for them old folks! That's awesome! We sending pallets of ensure with the javelins?
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Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:


Second angle.

edit; already posted.
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Second angle.

edit; already posted.


What are they shooting at? Drones?
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Originally Posted By voodochild:


What are they shooting at? Drones?
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83:


Second angle.

edit; already posted.


What are they shooting at? Drones?


Yep, posted a tweet where they claimed that.
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I don’t follow FR24 much, so I don’t know how often these are up, but an E-6B Mercury is up currently.

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"Let us in!!!"

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Originally Posted By outofbattery:

More defenders of Christendom from the evils of Globohomo have arrived on the Ukrainian border.

 https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaK3hlSp60b/?utm_medium=copy_link

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TruNews' founder Pastor Rick Wiles has a new pro-Russia video (countless pro-Russia stories since at least 2014) for his Christian CONservative audience:

Colin Powell’s Ghost: Blinken Says Russia May Use Chemical Warfare on Ukrainians

Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart. Airdate 2/17/22
"High ranking officials of the Biden Administration along with NATO partners continue to accuse Russia of plotting to invade Ukraine. The Russian government, however, reminds the world community that Russia’s soldiers are on Russian soil, but America’s soldiers are in many countries. US Secretary of State Blinken told the Munich Conference that war could erupt within days.

Doc Burkhart and I will analyze what’s happening in Europe, plus we’ll give you the latest information from Canada as the Trudeau regime seeks to crush truckers defying the prime minister’s mandatory injection decree."


And don't forget: "pUtiN iS A cHRiSTiAn fiGhT'En fER aLL Us 'MerIcAns aGaiNsT tHe gLoBALisTs!"
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Well that would make things interesting. Honestly I don't think putin would give two shits about UN troops being a speed bump. He wants to restore the old Soviet states and he has his mind made up. He knows war with the west is coming. Why not now?
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They'd commit more war crimes than Russia.
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I've always been curious about people who point to relatives as a qualification to know something.  I'm related to a brain surgeon. Doesn't make me a brain surgeon.  What's your training in explosives?
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Originally Posted By nickmemphis:

I'm not a super SME by any means but I've been around explosives my whole life; my dad worked in demo. A 50 pound warhead is going to be about 20% explosive and 80% casing. Maybe a bit more. It's going to be a high brisance secondary, a lot more boom per pound than something like commercial gelatin used where you can always just dig a bigger hole and pack more stuff in for a bigger boom. Call it 15lbs TNT equivalent napkin number estimate. Inside a 40 lbs mild steel casing, on bare dirt, I'm telling you it's not going to do much cratering with proximity fusing. It's made to make fast chunks of steel in the air that kill people, not make big holes in dirt that look bomby to the moviegoing public..



I've always been curious about people who point to relatives as a qualification to know something.  I'm related to a brain surgeon. Doesn't make me a brain surgeon.  What's your training in explosives?

You are an anesthesiologist
Far better than any brain surgeon.
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Well that would make things interesting. Honestly I don't think putin would give two shits about UN troops being a speed bump. He wants to restore the old Soviet states and he has his mind made up. He knows war with the west is coming. Why not now?
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If they send ones from Africa they're more likely to help than stop them

Or whatever
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