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Posted: 12/13/2018 1:38:20 AM EDT
[#1]
As much as I appreciate and like Trump, his salvation lies in the Dems fucking up again.
If Bernie takes the nomination, I can't see Trump winning. It'll definitely be a popcorn show either way. 
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Posted: 12/13/2018 1:38:53 AM EDT
[#2]
Well, he has my vote until they come up with some kind of real physical proof that can with stand cross examination in a real court of law..., and if they try primarying him in 2020 they best come up with a stud fucking conservative that can prove he is a winner and will fight the corruption..other wise Trump will still get my vote...
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Posted: 12/13/2018 1:41:03 AM EDT
[#3]
Honestly? No he won’t make it a second term.. no way the left will let that happen..
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Posted: 12/13/2018 1:41:14 AM EDT
[#4]
White house let the media set the agenda and run the show. Trump watches too much Fox and Friends. Media is gonna hate and rip Trump apart no matter what. May as well just go full speed ahead with whatever.
Honestly, Trump hasn't done 1/10th that I hoped he would. He won by a small amount, I don't know if the momentum will be there this time. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 1:42:37 AM EDT
[#5]
Six more years, count on it. 100%, believe me.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 1:43:40 AM EDT
[#6]
He will have a 2 nd term.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 1:44:27 AM EDT
[#7]
Up until November 5 I thought Trump was unbeatable. Now having seen the democrats nearly sweep the House it strongly appears there will be no Trump 2nd term. The media will be hyper focused on the daily House led investigations, press releases, press conferences, numerous democrats speechifying everyday about how they will be getting Trump any day now and the inevitable lead up to impeachment. When Mueller finally releases his report publicly look for the media circus to outdo anything seen anywhere, anytime. All networks, including all the cable news networks and probably many streaming services, will live air the report unveiling news conference.
I know its very pessimistic but I am having a very hard time seeing a positive outcome in 2020. While we still love and cheer our President, it is clear he will be checkmated at every turn and probably be forced to succumb to many democrat demands, since we know the Senate republicans will do little to nothing to help him. I also have a bad feeling about the Senate led trial of the President following his impeachment as I think many republicans will flip to convict. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 1:47:50 AM EDT
[#8]
Trump will drop out any day now.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 1:48:04 AM EDT
[#9]
The Cohen sentence has me worried. Cohen said some weird shit today. Trump associates are being jailed. That's not a good sign for any head of state -- anywhere, any time.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 1:53:37 AM EDT
[#10]
Wait, he paid a couple hookers with his own money. The only way it would be a crime is if he used campaign money to pay them off, he didn't. And even if he did I don't think his DOJ would push on this. The dems are trying their best to make something out of nothing and they know it..
This will blow over because there's nothin there. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 1:53:48 AM EDT
[#11]
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The Cohen sentence has me worried. Cohen said some weird shit today. Trump associates are being jailed. That's not a good sign for any head of state -- anywhere, any time. I was pretty convinced Trumps second term hinged entirely on who the Dems picked as in they'd need an unlikely powerhouse moderate dem combo like Booker/Gabbard... but now I'm extra scared that the Dems could pick any ole spicy liberal lunatic combo like Warren/Sanders and still win. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 1:57:18 AM EDT
[#12]
Nope, he’ll be impeached in March or April. He’ll prevail in the Senate but it will take them 6 months to hear the case and there will be a lot of dirt.
There will be 4-5 run against him in primaries, plus about 15 Democrats that run. People here will turn their backs on Trump because no “good” gun laws were passed and the wall isn’t built. They won’t support the GOP nominee because they don’t meet their definition of conservative. 2020 - Democrats will keep the House, get the White House but Republicans will hold Senate. Universal background checks will pass, more stringent immigration laws will pass and the debt will explode. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:00:06 AM EDT
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This is a good point I was pretty convinced Trumps second term hinged entirely on who the Dems picked as in they'd need an unlikely powerhouse moderate dem combo like Booker/Gabbard... but now I'm extra scared that the Dems could pick any ole spicy liberal lunatic combo like Warren/Sanders and still win. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Cohen sentence has me worried. Cohen said some weird shit today. Trump associates are being jailed. That's not a good sign for any head of state -- anywhere, any time. I was pretty convinced Trumps second term hinged entirely on who the Dems picked as in they'd need an unlikely powerhouse moderate dem combo like Booker/Gabbard... but now I'm extra scared that the Dems could pick any ole spicy liberal lunatic combo like Warren/Sanders and still win. If they pick a nominee that isn't completely insane, which will be tough for them to do, and acts polished like Zero did, Trump will probably not get reelected. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:01:48 AM EDT
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Trunp's brashness is alienating moderates. Bernie is too old. Beto is young and has enthusiasm. Him and Cruz were close enough to where he could possibly deliver Texas to the dems in 2020.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:04:17 AM EDT
[#15]
#MAGA
Second term coming. Democrats don’t have anything on him, or they’d have played their cards by now. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:08:34 AM EDT
[#16]
In before “ Sorry your girl lost”
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:11:47 AM EDT
[#17]
I don't know what will happen but I'm going to keep stacking mags and ammo.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:12:37 AM EDT
[#18]
It depends on 2 things: the economy and how much he acts like a Democrat. If the former does well and the latter is avoided, he'll win. Otherwise...
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:13:09 AM EDT
[#19]
Location checks out.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:13:24 AM EDT
[#20]
I really do not think the republican congress as it existed was worth keeping. If Trump does win a second term it is likely that republicans retake the house, hopefully those will be a better class than what we had. A lot can happen in two year.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:14:32 AM EDT
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Nope, he’ll be impeached in March or April. He’ll prevail in the Senate but it will take them 6 months to hear the case and there will be a lot of dirt. There will be 4-5 run against him in primaries, plus about 15 Democrats that run. People here will turn their backs on Trump because no “good” gun laws were passed and the wall isn’t built. They won’t support the GOP nominee because they don’t meet their definition of conservative. 2020 - Democrats will keep the House, get the White House but Republicans will hold Senate. Universal background checks will pass, more stringent immigration laws will pass and the debt will explode. If and it is a very big IF they do impeach him in the house it will fall flat on it's face in the Senate. DOJ needs to go after the Democrats on all the illegal shit they have been and continue to do. When it comes to breaking laws the Democrat Party makes the mafia look like Saints. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:15:30 AM EDT
[#22]
Oh, and the Cohen stuff is a joke.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:17:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Nope, he’ll be impeached in March or April. He’ll prevail in the Senate but it will take them 6 months to hear the case and there will be a lot of dirt. There will be 4-5 run against him in primaries, plus about 15 Democrats that run. People here will turn their backs on Trump because no “good” gun laws were passed and the wall isn’t built. They won’t support the GOP nominee because they don’t meet their definition of conservative. 2020 - Democrats will keep the House, get the White House but Republicans will hold Senate. Universal background checks will pass, more stringent immigration laws will pass and the debt will explode. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:22:32 AM EDT
[#24]
If Clinton, Bush II, and Obama are any indicators they're lame ducks 2 years into their 2nd term. They really only get 6 years at best these days
A lot can happen between now and then, so I won't make any predictions. But I will say this. I was born in 1983. In my entire lifetime, there has been just one single term president. in 35 years, its happened just once. if we go back to 68 and 72 nixon was reelected. Ford takes over. Carter wins 1 term. So in 50 years. we have had just 2 single term presidents. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:23:03 AM EDT
[#25]
As of right now I am not 100% sure he will make it through this term, much less get re-elected.
The left is going for the throat right now. Will he get impeached and removed from office? Not sure. Will there be an ever growing chorus on the left (and in some circles on the right) for him to resign? I think so. An offer he cannot refuse might be made for him to gracefully step aside (health reasons perhaps). "Want one or more of your kids to die in prison? Step down now or we will ensure that happens." |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:24:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Nope, he’ll be impeached in March or April. He’ll prevail in the Senate but it will take them 6 months to hear the case and there will be a lot of dirt. There will be 4-5 run against him in primaries, plus about 15 Democrats that run. People here will turn their backs on Trump because no “good” gun laws were passed and the wall isn’t built. They won’t support the GOP nominee because they don’t meet their definition of conservative. 2020 - Democrats will keep the House, get the White House but Republicans will hold Senate. Universal background checks will pass, more stringent immigration laws will pass and the debt will explode. Have i missed anything.... |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:30:27 AM EDT
[#27]
I think the voter fraud will ramp up and might take him out. I mean seriously what statistical sense does it make that a very divided nation is split 50/50?
In the midterms, look at all the recounts that no republican won. The inconsistencies in how huge groups of voters voted. It was a test and wgen 2020 gets here I think it'll be even worse. I really hope he gets another term. I've never seen a president who cared so much about his country and the people therein. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:31:41 AM EDT
[#28]
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Well, he has my vote until they come up with some kind of real physical proof that can with stand cross examination in a real court of law..., and if they try primarying him in 2020 they best come up with a stud fucking conservative that can prove he is a winner and will fight the corruption..other wise Trump will still get my vote... |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:32:46 AM EDT
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Trump will drop out any day now. His assault on the 2md amendment, along with the opening of ANWR fucking pissed me off. When it really comes down to if, if he's going to support gun legislation, we might as well have a Democrat in office, at least then we're likely to keep the Senate to stall anti gun legislation. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:33:10 AM EDT
[#30]
You think the Dems are going to let Trump win every battle ground state again?
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:33:50 AM EDT
[#31]
I dunno.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:35:12 AM EDT
[#32]
The Dem's are trying to turn a nothing burger into a big deal - trying to tie the sex payoffs to campaign finance. It's laughable. Otherwise, that would have been their claim when the payouts first came to light.
1. Keeping the news from his wife, and away from his business dealings, were the reasons for the payoffs. 2. He's done this many times over the years. So these payoffs aren't new. 3. His "motivations" are impossible to prove in court. They'd have to prove that he paid these women for the express reason of manipulating the election. 4. The payouts were reimbursed directly by Trumps own money from what I understand. To which there's no limit as to how much may be spent. All this being said, Republicans are spineless, waffling pussies. So he'll probably get impeached. But... just like when Schumer invoked the nuclear option on voting for judges (which came back to bite them with Kavanaugh) This impeachment thing is going to be the next bad precedent they set for when their guy is in office. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:39:59 AM EDT
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No, not a_familiar thread. I really hoped trump would have used even a 1/3 of the effort of the fake Russian collusion to finally go after criminal dems. My prediction for the next 2 years will still be Russia, Whores (tm), and impeachment. The wall will not get built, illegals will get in, trump will remain on the defense and eventually we will have an economic downturn (2019,2020?) 2020 all WH & Congress will go Democrat’s and it will be the beginning of the end. Not a defeatist thread. A realist thread. Change my mind? |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:41:29 AM EDT
[#34]
i honestly dont know what to expect. i didnt last election either.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:47:08 AM EDT
[#35]
I’m pretty involved in the campaign universe and I can tell you that no one knows what is going to happen from one day to the next. Trump terrifies republicans because he isn’t a boot locker.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 2:53:57 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And it will be his own fault why he doesnt win in 2020. He made promises to the american people and hasnt followed through with any of them. In fact has cause a firearm accessory to now be banned. He hasnt built the wall yet. He hasnt done anything in all actuality except make daily tweets. Have i missed anything.... Lower taxes Caused probably the best economy you’ll ever see Got North Korea to the table Setting trade straight Ended isis Brought China to table Showed the world that we’re not fucking around and not apologizing for shit Few to name a few |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 3:15:12 AM EDT
[#37]
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He hasn’t done anything except Lower taxes Caused probably the best economy you’ll ever see Got North Korea to the table Setting trade straight Ended isis Brought China to table Showed the world that we’re not fucking around and not apologizing for shit Few to name a few |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 3:16:25 AM EDT
[#38]
I think he will win in 2020 but it's going to be ugly as hell.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 3:19:24 AM EDT
[#39]
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He hasn’t done anything except Lower taxes Caused probably the best economy you’ll ever see Got North Korea to the table Setting trade straight Ended isis Brought China to table Showed the world that we’re not fucking around and not apologizing for shit Few to name a few Trump is literally the first President in decades who hasn't raised taxes, started a war or screwed up the Economy within the first 1-2 years of his Presidency and these_fuckwits still hate him. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 3:21:17 AM EDT
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Six more years, count on it. 100%, believe me. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 3:21:52 AM EDT
[#41]
If that long.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 3:42:26 AM EDT
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I think he will win in 2020 but it's going to be ugly as hell. Every day he is in office is one more day we get before the inevitable happens. Unlike the right the true believers on the left are not afraid to use power when they get it. Its going to fucking suck when that happens. Trump scared the shit out of the left and the RINO's. He wasn't supposed to be possible. They won't be letting that shit happen again once he is gone. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 3:48:54 AM EDT
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Up until November 5 I thought Trump was unbeatable. Now having seen the democrats nearly sweep the House it strongly appears there will be no Trump 2nd term... The Democrats lost 3 in the Senate, and gained about 40 seats in the House. Of those House seats gained, 5 were from a bogus Court-ordered redistricting in PA, and another 7 were from ballot harvesting shenanigans in CA. So they actually gained only about 28 seats. Contrast that with Obama's first midterm where the Democrats lost 63 seats in the House and lost 6 in the Senate. Trump is doing much better at this point in his first term than Obama or GW Bush. His approval rating is higher than Obama's was at the two year mark. He can definitely win a 2nd term if he avoids pissing off gun owners any further. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 3:53:25 AM EDT
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If Trump doesn't get a 2nd term you might as well turn your guns in for gift cards. At this point if you dont get the left and what they have planned you cant be helped.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 4:02:09 AM EDT
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I hope he does. But some dipshit RINO like flake or kasich will run as a independent and Ross Perot him.
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Posted: 12/13/2018 4:05:20 AM EDT
[#46]
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And it will be his own fault why he doesnt win in 2020. He made promises to the american people and hasnt followed through with any of them. In fact has cause a firearm accessory to now be banned. He hasnt built the wall yet. He hasnt done anything in all actuality except make daily tweets. Have i missed anything.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nope, he'll be impeached in March or April. He'll prevail in the Senate but it will take them 6 months to hear the case and there will be a lot of dirt. There will be 4-5 run against him in primaries, plus about 15 Democrats that run. People here will turn their backs on Trump because no "good" gun laws were passed and the wall isn't built. They won't support the GOP nominee because they don't meet their definition of conservative. 2020 - Democrats will keep the House, get the White House but Republicans will hold Senate. Universal background checks will pass, more stringent immigration laws will pass and the debt will explode. Have i missed anything.... |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 4:09:20 AM EDT
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The Dem's are trying to turn a nothing burger into a big deal - trying to tie the sex payoffs to campaign finance. It's laughable. Otherwise, that would have been their claim when the payouts first came to light. 1. Keeping the news from his wife, and away from his business dealings, were the reasons for the payoffs. 2. He's done this many times over the years. So these payoffs aren't new. 3. His "motivations" are impossible to prove in court. They'd have to prove that he paid these women for the express reason of manipulating the election. 4. The payouts were reimbursed directly by Trumps own money from what I understand. To which there's no limit as to how much may be spent. All this being said, Republicans are spineless, waffling pussies. So he'll probably get impeached. But... just like when Schumer invoked the nuclear option on voting for judges (which came back to bite them with Kavanaugh) This impeachment thing is going to be the next bad precedent they set for when their guy is in office. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 4:16:44 AM EDT
[#48]
Two years is a long time
I don't know if he'll last two years, I don't know if he'll win in two years, I don't know who the Dems will run in two years |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 4:18:02 AM EDT
[#49]
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Trump will drop out any day now. |
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Posted: 12/13/2018 4:42:49 AM EDT
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thats not how the media will spin it. thankfully they are not nearly as relevant as they were in the past. i think these histrionics are their last grasping of straws as they lose the ability of propaganda and persuasion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He hasn’t done anything except Lower taxes Caused probably the best economy you’ll ever see Got North Korea to the table Setting trade straight Ended isis Brought China to table Showed the world that we’re not fucking around and not apologizing for shit Few to name a few |
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