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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:13:31 PM EDT
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Border would be nice.
Anyway we can keep the rest up for a few years? |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:15:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyway we can keep this up for a few years? Sure. Little to nothing has been done to address border security for decades. A few more years of status quo is easy. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:15:25 PM EDT
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Meanwhile our border is WIDE OPEN. Fuck an Ukraine and Israel and all the rest. We need to shut down our borders and regain our sovereignty.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:18:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyway we can keep this up for a few years? Unlikely, this goes on forever |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:22:37 PM EDT
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Of course it’s at an impasse; that’s by design.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:24:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meanwhile our border is WIDE OPEN. Fuck an Ukraine and Israel and all the rest. We need to shut down our borders and regain our sovereignty. I think you might have it backwards but your statement is vague enough that I'm not sure. Foreign military aid is supported by half of Republicans and most Democrats. Border security is supported by most Republicans and some Democrats. If one side wants their thing, they're going to have to compromise on the other. Unless they think they're going to pick up enough seats to do whatever they want without compromising in the next session (incredibly unlikely). |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:27:20 PM EDT
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Dump new "immigrants" in the front yards of these "politicians" while they "deliberate".
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:27:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course it’s at an impasse; that’s by design. Which is generally a good thing. Unfortunately, we have an executive branch dead set on supplanting the legislative branch. So the immigration laws we have get bypassed in favor of whatever the current monarch decides. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:27:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course it’s at an impasse; that’s by design. ^^^Should have been first post.^^^ |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:30:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course it’s at an impasse; that’s by design. The only battle is for a political win. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:34:46 PM EDT
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they will never close the border until enough 3rd world peasant class have crossed to fundamentally change the demographics of America permanently
"The browning of America is inevitable." they told you their plan 15+ years ago you, your children, your grandchildren, your great grandchildren are being replaced with a more controllable peasant class one day you'll have to make a decision if your great grandchildrens birthright is worth the ultimate price you will have to pay don't fail because of cowardice |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:36:30 PM EDT
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It's just wonderful that Marxist Schumer describes enforcing the rule of law at the border as an "extreme immigration measure", and Marxist Chris Murphy won't tolerate "closing the border indiscriminately".
Marxist Murphy would prefer the border to be operated at the whim of the marxists. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:38:58 PM EDT
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Our immigration problem isn't a legislative problem, it's an administrative one.
Current admin won't even enforce our existing laws, so why would they enforce any new laws? Our government is broken and beyond repair. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:40:33 PM EDT
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MSNBC has run the over the top hyperbole headlines over the border more than usual leading up to these Senate meetings probably hoping to fire up the “progressives” to contact their reps ahead of the 2024 election over this https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo199248453858
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:41:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Our immigration problem isn't a legislative problem, it's an administrative one. Current admin won't even enforce our existing laws, so why would they enforce any new laws? Our government is broken and beyond repair.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:46:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: they will never close the border until enough 3rd world peasant class have crossed to fundamentally change the demographics of America permanently "The browning of America is inevitable." they told you their plan 15+ years ago you, your children, your grandchildren, your great grandchildren are being replaced with a more controllable peasant class one day you'll have to make a decision if your great grandchildrens birthright is worth the ultimate price you will have to pay don't fail because of cowardice Exactly . I would say the 75,000,000 that are here now is pretty much game set match though . At least 50,000,000 of them will have mail in ballots sent to them next year |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:46:13 PM EDT
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Gov is such a wasteful hog. Simple answer is to spilt them into three separate appropriation bills
No idea why they can’t do this simple efficient solution We know why, they want to pork everything up |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:47:58 PM EDT
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The Answer to 1965 is 1924!
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:51:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gov is such a wasteful hog. Simple answer is to spilt them into three separate appropriation bills No idea why they can’t do this simple efficient solution We know why, they want to pork everything up Johnson wants that but Biden and Democrats are opposed to doing that |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:52:12 PM EDT
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Pass whatever border laws you want.
The current administration will ignore them all. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:53:23 PM EDT
[#21]
No nation should receive aid until our own is squared way.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 6:08:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Our immigration problem isn't a legislative problem, it's an administrative one. Current admin won't even enforce our existing laws, so why would they enforce any new laws? Our government is broken and beyond repair. The border problem is a fed.gov problem betraying the nation & the US constitution problem. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:18:37 PM EDT
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Who, in their right mind thinks unchecked illegal immigration is a good idea? This is a conspiracy and both political parties are in on it.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:30:44 PM EDT
[#24]
Why do we need to wrap ukraine isreal and our own border all in one?
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:32:37 PM EDT
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A border that was secure when Trump left office, but all the whiney anti Trumpers would rather have a feeble old child molester in office with open borders than to admit Trump did anything right.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:35:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A border that was secure when Trump left office, but all the whiney anti Trumpers would rather have a feeble old child molester in office with open borders than to admit Trump did anything right. Lol our border was not secure under trump. We were at least still doing remain in mexico |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:36:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dump new "immigrants" in the front yards of these "politicians" while they "deliberate". They just send in the National Guard to haul them off. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:38:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Johnson wants that but Biden and Democrats are opposed to doing that Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Gov is such a wasteful hog. Simple answer is to spilt them into three separate appropriation bills No idea why they can’t do this simple efficient solution We know why, they want to pork everything up Johnson wants that but Biden and Democrats are opposed to doing that The dims are spoiled brats. They're used to getting EVERYTHING THEY WANT, and the rinos just let them have it. Somebody finally says no, and they pop a gasket. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:40:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do we need to wrap ukraine isreal and our own border all in one? |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:42:49 PM EDT
[#30]
Time for trainloads of illegals to all the major cities again. Keep on dumping them until they agree.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:43:07 PM EDT
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So the executive branch has waged war against America and nothing will be done about it? Sounds about right for history's worst class of leaders.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:43:56 PM EDT
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Did the Bill start in the House?
If so, tell the Senate to shut up and pass it. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:47:55 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly . I would say the 75,000,000 that are here now is pretty much game set match though . At least 50,000,000 of them will have mail in ballots sent to them next year Plus, they are a very fertile bunch. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 8:58:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A border that was secure when Trump left office, but all the whiney anti Trumpers would rather have a feeble old child molester in office with open borders than to admit Trump did anything right. What the fuck are you smoking? 
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:17:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Answer to 1965 is 1924! There are not many 2023 members that make smart, apt posts. This is the exception. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:26:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The dims are spoiled brats. They're used to getting EVERYTHING THEY WANT, and the rinos just let them have it. Somebody finally says no, and they pop a gasket. Media claims Chip Roy is suspicious but we’ll see only 2 weeks that will go by fast to find out what happens https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/12/04/mike-johnson-house-speaker-gop-conservatives/71793137007/ |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:36:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/04/senate-dems-border-talks-are-dead-senate-republicans-theres-still-a-pulse-00129900 Long article but basically Senate Republicans can’t come to agreement with Senate Democrats majority and article goes on to say what’s proposed is not enough to pass House Freedom Caucus demands so basically Ukraine, Israel and immigration/border are dead in the water All by design. This admin wants to close illegals detention centers, while also asking to find new detention centers.... |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 9:53:31 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meanwhile our border is WIDE OPEN. Fuck an Ukraine and Israel and all the rest. We need to shut down our borders and regain our sovereignty. I fear the damage cannot be undone without gross crimes against humanity. I pray I am wrong. Please God, let me be wrong. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 10:09:05 PM EDT
[#39]
Nothing is going to change, the border has been open for years.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 10:43:40 PM EDT
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Not a dime on foreign aid until we can go 1 year with no illegal border crossers.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 10:49:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a dime on foreign aid until we can go 1 year with no illegal border crossers. What if the offer was one for the other? IE, X billion in weapons appropriations for Ukraine or Israel in exchange for Y number of additional BP agents and the mandate of actually keeping illegals out? That seems more likely. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 10:59:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/5/2023 8:47:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/5/2023 8:53:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/5/2023 9:15:00 AM EDT
[#45]
They are not immigrants or migrants. They are an illegal invading horde army of parasites flying foreign flags. It's an act of war
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Posted: 12/5/2023 9:20:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/5/2023 9:27:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which is generally a good thing. Unfortunately, we have an executive branch dead set on supplanting the legislative branch. So the immigration laws we have get bypassed in favor of whatever the current monarch decides. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Of course it’s at an impasse; that’s by design. Which is generally a good thing. Unfortunately, we have an executive branch dead set on supplanting the legislative branch. So the immigration laws we have get bypassed in favor of whatever the current monarch decides. "A Congress that functions by compromise is better than an executive branch that functions by fiat." |
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Posted: 12/5/2023 9:32:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/5/2023 9:36:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And closing the border is bad? According to Republican Congress members that is the position Democrats have taken in the meetings and apparently rather than address Republican demands Chuck Schumer will hold his own bill vote instead that has no chance of passing the House as the clock ticks towards Congress leaving for the Christmas holiday |
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Posted: 12/5/2023 10:04:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Time for trainloads of illegals to all the major cities again. Keep on dumping them until they agree. No need for that. Research: Operation Wetback. “The Largest Mass Deportation in American History As many as 1.3 million people may have been swept up in the Eisenhower-era campaign called 'Operation Wetback.'” Problem is, your government wants more illegals for : “The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. It is the strategy of forcing political change leading to societal collapse through orchestrated crises. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, amassing massive unpayable national debt, and other methods such as unfettered immigration thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse by overwhelming the system.” |
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