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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Beer_Slayer]
It says it's been moved, but the link just takes me to the Community page. What gives?


This is now the active "shit (might be) is definitely happening in Ukraine" thread.

News links, thanks to BerettaGuy:
Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH

Kyiv Post

Ukrainian News

UKRInform

EUROMAIDEN PRESS

New Voice of Ukraine

Kyiv Independent

Ukraine World

InterFax Ukraine

UATV

Ukrainian Journal

Official Website of the President of Ukraine

Ukrainian Ministry of Defense

Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often.
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Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise.

New news link c/o berettaguy:

Ukrainian Pravda
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/

Stop fake, anti - disinformation site:
https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 5:13:48 PM EDT
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The leaders of the Balkan and Eastern European countries have expressed their support for the territorial integrity of Ukraine

On Monday, at an informal summit in Athens, the leaders of eleven Balkan and Eastern European countries signed a joint declaration expressing support for Ukraine's territorial integrity.

Signing the declaration in the presence of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, they expressed "unwavering support for Ukraine's independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity within its internationally recognized borders."

The declaration was signed by the leaders of Serbia, Moldova, Montenegro, Romania, Kosovo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, North Macedonia, Bulgaria and Croatia and Greece, as well as Ukraine. The President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, and the President of the European Council, Charles Michel , also participated in the summit .

The leaders also expressed their support and appreciation for the serious efforts of the President of Ukraine to establish the principles of peace in accordance with the UN Charter.



https://www.tvnet.lv/7839592/balkanu-un-austrumeiropas-valstu-lideri-paudusi-atbalstu-ukrainas-teritorialajai-integritatei

Link Posted: 8/22/2023 5:15:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CB1:
I think... and I'm probably wrong.  The mid-tier vehicle was the Striker and LAV.
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I was thinking about them but they are wrong for the "raider-jeep" concept. Should be closer to a HMMV...Maybe like a 6 or 8 wheeled HMMV, low to the ground but with some mine protection, lots of hard-points for weapons, and lots of space for dismounts or stretchers.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 5:20:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jozsi:



Caleb Crye is from Salem, Oregon. Crye had a branch office in Oregon.

I went to the Crye sponsored SHOT show parties on their invitation when they got contracts for it.

The bill at their private party at Luxor was over $650k total for the night expenditure.

I know so because the fucken waitress and manager of Club Aurora gave me the bill accidently.

Then the army changed the design a bit to make the scorpion when Caleb and the Crye design team got fucken greedy on the licensing agreement.

I have a 1st generation prototype Crye combat pants and shirt.

Sold that for over $7500 on ebay, it was the largest amount I ever got in my paypal account.

fun times working for Crimson Trace Lasergrips.

fun times.
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Jozsi you are living my dream life...
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 5:21:22 PM EDT
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The Polyana-D4M1 - it's an Upgraded Command Post of the Air Defence brigade of the russian Army.
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Nice phones.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 5:25:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/22/2023 5:31:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:


Nice printers. Where did those come from?
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Looking forward to that extinguisher being needed...
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 5:44:32 PM EDT
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Counting The Dead: How Many Russians Have Really Died in Ukraine
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 5:46:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:


Nice printers. Where did those come from?
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Well, since they have an Epson tag on them, I would guess Amazon.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 5:47:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://i.imgur.com/UOWdW2Q.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ZDfU3ZY.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/x0VbO3h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N9uZ7C9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/pnkFC8V.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/DyEwszZ.jpg

The Polyana-D4M1 - it's an Upgraded Command Post of the Air Defence brigade of the russian Army.


Nice phones.


The only jamming they will be doing is the paper in the printer.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 5:56:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://i.imgur.com/UOWdW2Q.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ZDfU3ZY.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/x0VbO3h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N9uZ7C9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/pnkFC8V.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/DyEwszZ.jpg

The Polyana-D4M1 - it's an Upgraded Command Post of the Air Defence brigade of the russian Army.


Nice phones.



lol, that is the only thing that jumped out for me.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:00:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 7empest:



Here's hoping the bridge becomes a submarine.
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Originally Posted By 7empest:
Originally Posted By m35ben:
Originally Posted By yekimak:
https://t.me/UaOnlii/58581?single

Reports of explosions in Crimea and the bridge is shut down again.[/q



uote]Please be true



Here's hoping the bridge becomes a submarine.

So far nothing burger. Sorry to get hopes up.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:01:36 PM EDT
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How capable are the F-16 models Ukraine is being sent, how do they stack up against the Russian jets?

Are they better compared to the MiG-29's Ukraine already has?
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:06:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Toybasher:
How capable are the F-16 models Ukraine is being sent, how do they stack up against the Russian jets?

Are they better compared to the MiG-29's Ukraine already has?
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Capable but not stealth so operating over air defense will be hard/impossible. Not a game changer but helpful. There is a whole thread on it. Well half a thread of info and half a thread of purse swinging.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:07:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:


Nice printers. Where did those come from?
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“PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean!?”

Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:29:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 7empest:

It keeps deleting the cyrillic... stupid browser.
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Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:31:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
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Interesting.

So official Russian figures: 6K KIA
BBC: 29K KIA
Russian inheritance stats: 40-55K KIA

So can we assume 1/3 to 1/2 of the Ukrainian's figures (260K) are correct for RU KIA?
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:34:03 PM EDT
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Damn didn't it work?

Was “PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean!?” but in Russian.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:36:08 PM EDT
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don't the current ATGMs reach 10km when fired from a helicopter? Seems like not much of an upgrade except for the faster missile. Maybe the 10km spec is for a ground launch and air launched is much more?
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:38:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

Interesting.

So official Russian figures: 6K KIA
BBC: 29K KIA
Russian inheritance stats: 40-55K KIA

So can we assume 1/3 to 1/2 of the Ukrainian's figures (260K) are correct for RU KIA?
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It is interesting. Remember those are the estimated number of dead while the numbers we look at daily are casualties which includes the injured.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:47:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

Interesting.

So official Russian figures: 6K KIA
BBC: 29K KIA
Russian inheritance stats: 40-55K KIA

So can we assume 1/3 to 1/2 of the Ukrainian's figures (260K) are correct for RU KIA?
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By m35ben:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYNRBF2ggAw

Interesting.

So official Russian figures: 6K KIA
BBC: 29K KIA
Russian inheritance stats: 40-55K KIA

So can we assume 1/3 to 1/2 of the Ukrainian's figures (260K) are correct for RU KIA?

I admittedly didn't watch the video, but does it mention whether L/DPR personnel are counted in those numbers? Those guys got fucking hammered during from the early to mid-stages of last year. I wouldn't be surprised if they took 30 - 40 thousand KIA themselves. I also highly doubt anybody has bothered to document their deaths, given that they have been viewed as disposable manpower. There's a reason that Russia was forced to mobilize and grab dudes from prisons, and that reason is that they started to run out of L/DPR guys to hand Mosins and throw at Ukrainian positions.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:47:42 PM EDT
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Big JDAM Strike on Russian-Occupied Building in Donetsk
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:48:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:

I admittedly didn't watch the video, but does it mention whether L/DPR personnel are counted in those numbers? Those guys got fucking hammered during from the early to mid-stages of last year. I wouldn't be surprised if they took 30 - 40 thousand KIA themselves. After all, there's a reason that Russia was forced to mobilize and grab dudes from prisons, and that reason is that they started to run out of L/DPR guys to hand Mosins and throw at Ukrainian positions or order to die in place.
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I does mention them but I couldn't here all of the video at work.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:49:05 PM EDT
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Animated map shows almost 500 days of Russia's invasion of Ukraine | AFP
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:51:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I'm not so sure the pilot actually hit the boat.

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It does look like he got the boat wet.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:56:14 PM EDT
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https://t.me/u_now/109608

I know drone drop vids are fast going out of favor but I think we can all appreciate it when a stack of anti-tank mines goes off..
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:59:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1693969385289855471

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4IwH7JWgAEB3OA?format=jpg&name=medium





Why not just giving the technical data to the Russians.
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1693969385289855471

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4IwH7JWgAEB3OA?format=jpg&name=medium

The first Leopard 2A7HU MBT is already delivered in Hungary. The new tank is equipped with improved roof protection, new FCS with ATT, PERI RTWL commande's panoramic sight, FN Herstal RWS. The Hungarian Army also received the first Bergepanzer 3 'Büffel'.




Why not just giving the technical data to the Russians.

It's not like they don't have a bunch of captured samples.

Same thing will happen with m1
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 7:03:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By yekimak:
https://t.me/u_now/109608

I know drone drop vids are fast going out of favor but I think we can all appreciate it when a stack of anti-tank mines goes off..
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That was impressive and worth the watch.  Thanks.   I’m also trying to avoid some of those drone videos.  I watched a bunch early on and don’t feel like it’s healthy to get totally numbed to that stuff and fee like I’m routing for it even if the Russians deserve everything they get.  It’s still a person.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 7:07:35 PM EDT
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Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 7:29:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:

I admittedly didn't watch the video, but does it mention whether L/DPR personnel are counted in those numbers? Those guys got fucking hammered during from the early to mid-stages of last year. I wouldn't be surprised if they took 30 - 40 thousand KIA themselves. I also highly doubt anybody has bothered to document their deaths, given that they have been viewed as disposable manpower. There's a reason that Russia was forced to mobilize and grab dudes from prisons, and that reason is that they started to run out of L/DPR guys to hand Mosins and throw at Ukrainian positions.
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:
Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By m35ben:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYNRBF2ggAw

Interesting.

So official Russian figures: 6K KIA
BBC: 29K KIA
Russian inheritance stats: 40-55K KIA

So can we assume 1/3 to 1/2 of the Ukrainian's figures (260K) are correct for RU KIA?

I admittedly didn't watch the video, but does it mention whether L/DPR personnel are counted in those numbers? Those guys got fucking hammered during from the early to mid-stages of last year. I wouldn't be surprised if they took 30 - 40 thousand KIA themselves. I also highly doubt anybody has bothered to document their deaths, given that they have been viewed as disposable manpower. There's a reason that Russia was forced to mobilize and grab dudes from prisons, and that reason is that they started to run out of L/DPR guys to hand Mosins and throw at Ukrainian positions.

That is likely true. For certain that doesn’t include Wagner which they admitted had about 30,000 killed. I think they had a very low wounded to kill ratio because they got little or no treatment and often left for dead.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 7:39:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK2Yfp03UFQ
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Someone inform the Ukraine war experts that JDAMs are being used.

Dude never manned up and answered me, called me a coward and then never answered a direct question i asked him 5 times. Turns out he found out yesterday JDAMS had been in Ukraine for months.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 7:42:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kncook:


Someone inform the Ukraine war experts that JDAMs are being used.

Dude never manned up and answered me, called me a coward and then never answered a direct question i asked him 5 times. Turns out he found out yesterday JDAMS had been in Ukraine for months.
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Remember that dude is out to shit on members here not to be productive.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 7:45:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kncook:


Someone inform the Ukraine war experts that JDAMs are being used.

Dude never manned up and answered me, called me a coward and then never answered a direct question i asked him 5 times. Turns out he found out yesterday JDAMS had been in Ukraine for months.
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Originally Posted By kncook:
Originally Posted By m35ben:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK2Yfp03UFQ


Someone inform the Ukraine war experts that JDAMs are being used.

Dude never manned up and answered me, called me a coward and then never answered a direct question i asked him 5 times. Turns out he found out yesterday JDAMS had been in Ukraine for months.


Not just JDAM, but JDAM-ER.


Link Posted: 8/22/2023 7:46:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

Christie is a douche who is only there to attack Trump. He has less chance to be POTUS than me.
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By stgdz:

I think Christie and mother pench are going to wipe the floor with him tonight.

Christie is a douche who is only there to attack Trump. He has less chance to be POTUS than me.

Trump is no different than Vivek, well except for Trump may give Ukraine arms to Ukraine to help himself look good or do what he has promised in getting the war to stop by giving up territory.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 7:58:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:


Nice printers. Where did those come from?
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How can you do a dramatic rip-the-paper-off-the-printer scene if you don't have a dot matrix?
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 8:00:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Always great to see his videos.

I thought Ghost Eye was cool
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By m35ben:
He does a great job.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5cXFyG0ZjY


Always great to see his videos.

I thought Ghost Eye was cool

Concur.  Ghost Eye has value in psychop context.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 8:01:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By yekimak:
https://t.me/u_now/109608

I know drone drop vids are fast going out of favor but I think we can all appreciate it when a stack of anti-tank mines goes off..
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That made my day!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 8:01:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fund_GARISSON:
Guys, everyone we promised will receive everything. almost everything is ready.


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/584249/photo_2023-08-22_16-50-38_jpg-2928225.JPG
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Sweet!  Many thanks!

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Beautiful.    Those guys are getting really good.

Helluvalot more than $1000.      Looks like it got the APC too…?
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 8:06:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By yekimak:

So far nothing burger. Sorry to get hopes up.
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Traffic stopped + air defense is definitely reportable.
There are some itchy trigger fingers down there

Link Posted: 8/22/2023 8:07:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BillofRights:


Beautiful.    Those guys are getting really good.

Helluvalot more than $1000.      Looks like it got the APC too…?
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Originally Posted By BillofRights:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Beautiful.    Those guys are getting really good.

Helluvalot more than $1000.      Looks like it got the APC too…?


I noticed that at the end too, looks like they got the apc.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


I noticed that at the end too, looks like they got the apc.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By BillofRights:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Beautiful.    Those guys are getting really good.

Helluvalot more than $1000.      Looks like it got the APC too…?


I noticed that at the end too, looks like they got the apc.

Conveniently, they just about dug a hole to bury it in

Link Posted: 8/22/2023 8:17:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

Interesting.

So official Russian figures: 6K KIA
BBC: 29K KIA
Russian inheritance stats: 40-55K KIA

So can we assume 1/3 to 1/2 of the Ukrainian's figures (260K) are correct for RU KIA?
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I've been assuming that Ukraine MoD numbers for Russian troop losses are all casualties, not just KIA. It seems to fit okay with other data and guesstimated KIA/WIA ratios. Since Russia isn't going to keep any real stats let alone publish them, we'll never really know.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 8:18:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NE223:

So .. in other words, his fucking plan is making an "agreement" with Russia. Seriously? This guy is so damn "smart" but he doesn't realize that historically, Russia doesn't abide by agreements, never have given a damn, never will. The ONLY thing Russia comprehends is power. If US policy would have approached Russia that way when they invaded Georgia we probably wouldn't be watching a war in Europe.

https://y.yarn.co/6b67fab3-c727-40c4-a828-2417653b0eee_text.gif
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Originally Posted By NE223:
Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
Not looking for a debate on this, just reporting Vivek's "plan" to end the war from the SRS that dropped yesterday. Pardon the bad formatting as it's from Youtube autogenerated transcripts.

bla bla bla
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So .. in other words, his fucking plan is making an "agreement" with Russia. Seriously? This guy is so damn "smart" but he doesn't realize that historically, Russia doesn't abide by agreements, never have given a damn, never will. The ONLY thing Russia comprehends is power. If US policy would have approached Russia that way when they invaded Georgia we probably wouldn't be watching a war in Europe.

https://y.yarn.co/6b67fab3-c727-40c4-a828-2417653b0eee_text.gif





Russia already agreed to honor Ukraine's borders.  Look how that turned out.


Ukraine in NATO is the best way to avoid a repeat of this whole shit show in the future.   If Russia doesn't get all of Ukraine this time (they won't) then they will be back, unless it means taking on NATO.



Link Posted: 8/22/2023 8:19:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:

The leaders of the Balkan and Eastern European countries have expressed their support for the territorial integrity of Ukraine

On Monday, at an informal summit in Athens, the leaders of eleven Balkan and Eastern European countries signed a joint declaration expressing support for Ukraine's territorial integrity.

Signing the declaration in the presence of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, they expressed "unwavering support for Ukraine's independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity within its internationally recognized borders."

The declaration was signed by the leaders of Serbia, Moldova, Montenegro, Romania, Kosovo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, North Macedonia, Bulgaria and Croatia and Greece, as well as Ukraine. The President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, and the President of the European Council, Charles Michel , also participated in the summit .

The leaders also expressed their support and appreciation for the serious efforts of the President of Ukraine to establish the principles of peace in accordance with the UN Charter.



https://www.tvnet.lv/7839592/balkanu-un-austrumeiropas-valstu-lideri-paudusi-atbalstu-ukrainas-teritorialajai-integritatei

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Serbia? Lmao, this has to be a joke.
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With all the publicity surrounding 8/24 and a possible attack.   Does UKR just sit back and do nothing but send in a few drones to watch everything turn in and get a complete ADA picture for a future swarm on a surprise date of their choosing or do they go all in and swarm on everything tomorrow or Thursday night.  Showing even after advanced warning you can stop everything?
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 8:22:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:

I admittedly didn't watch the video, but does it mention whether L/DPR personnel are counted in those numbers? Those guys got fucking hammered during from the early to mid-stages of last year. I wouldn't be surprised if they took 30 - 40 thousand KIA themselves. I also highly doubt anybody has bothered to document their deaths, given that they have been viewed as disposable manpower. There's a reason that Russia was forced to mobilize and grab dudes from prisons, and that reason is that they started to run out of L/DPR guys to hand Mosins and throw at Ukrainian positions.
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Yeah I watched the whole vid. (Damn that guy is long winded and the vid could have been 30 seconds long) But he did mention the L/DPR numbers and a few other sources for info, including the leaks from the Russians themselves. We probably wont have accurate KIA estimates until long after the war is over.
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in close vicinity to the Kremlin across the river.  
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Link Posted: 8/22/2023 8:26:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kncook:


Someone inform the Ukraine war experts that JDAMs are being used.

Dude never manned up and answered me, called me a coward and then never answered a direct question i asked him 5 times. Turns out he found out yesterday JDAMS had been in Ukraine for months.
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Originally Posted By kncook:
Originally Posted By m35ben:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK2Yfp03UFQ


Someone inform the Ukraine war experts that JDAMs are being used.

Dude never manned up and answered me, called me a coward and then never answered a direct question i asked him 5 times. Turns out he found out yesterday JDAMS had been in Ukraine for months.

That’s quite an expert to pontificate about a specific situation when he has read nothing about it. 😂😂😂 Most experts will qualify their statements made in general with “in most cases”, “in my experience during ____”, “the most common application is”, etc. I have never heard a true expert claim anything as “always”, “never”, “impossible “ because if you do edge of envelope efforts long enough you see lots of unexpected things! But now I have heard of one saying that so chalk that up as proving my point. 😎 and if you are not pushing the envelope then can you really claim to be an SME versus just being knowledgeable about something?
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