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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
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It says it's been moved, but the link just takes me to the Community page. What gives?


This is now the active "shit (might be) is definitely happening in Ukraine" thread.

News links, thanks to BerettaGuy:
Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH

Kyiv Post

Ukrainian News

UKRInform

EUROMAIDEN PRESS

New Voice of Ukraine

Kyiv Independent

Ukraine World

InterFax Ukraine

UATV

Ukrainian Journal

Official Website of the President of Ukraine

Ukrainian Ministry of Defense

Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often.
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Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise.

New news link c/o berettaguy:

Ukrainian Pravda
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/

Stop fake, anti - disinformation site:
https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 12:48:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:
Another recent 1420 video. This one gets a wider variety of people, and some of the responses are downright scary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wezUOOR-l4I
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Just remember that 75% of these people are speaking out of fear, 20% are saying what they truly believe, and 5% are just young kids who don't know any better (or old people who no longer have any fucks to give).

It's a frightful thing to behold, multiple generations of people brought up or trained by experience to lie to everyone around them about what they truly think or feel. But it's a survival mechanism.
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 1:05:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tiberius:


Surprised she wasn’t snagged by an officer for a “driver” or “yeoman” to do her OF thing for a fan base of one.  Must be a surplus of pretty girls if they dumped her into the front line.
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
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Originally Posted By GTLandser:
Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
"Our military found the body of the 200th female soldier from Katsap. A phone was found with her. They pulled out information from there, it turned out that she used to be a well-known onlifan."





Jesus, how bad does you life have to be going to give up OnlyFans for the Russian Army?


Maybe a shortage of carrots?


The first tragic loss on the Russian side

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Frp63f4XwAIxMSQ?format=jpg&name=large


Surprised she wasn’t snagged by an officer for a “driver” or “yeoman” to do her OF thing for a fan base of one.  Must be a surplus of pretty girls if they dumped her into the front line.


Yeah, or used as a recruiting aid. "Fight for the motherland and you may serve aside this sexy babe" seems a lot more valuable than issuing her a rifle and combat shovel.

Link Posted: 3/22/2023 1:09:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:


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In a Sci-Fi book I read a few years ago, the Mech-suited soldiers had little charges like that.

They'd go prone, stick an entrenching charge on the ground alongside themselves, it would go off, and then they'd roll right into the freshly blasted out fighting hole.

Probably a lot less safe without a mech suit on

Link Posted: 3/22/2023 1:13:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrwOzcyWwAAJbTs?format=png&name=small



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5.45 AR's would be awesome.

It's a great cartridge, like a .220 Creedmoor in that it has a much finer VLD projectile shape due to having a greater ogive space.



Link Posted: 3/22/2023 1:22:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By strykr:

How would you feel about Russia drafting Ukrainian people from Donbas or Crimea to fight for them in their coming wars? Minorities are always convenient to raise an army cause if they die, they are no longer a problem.
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Donbass and Crimea are Ukraine.

Link Posted: 3/22/2023 1:48:10 AM EDT
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That mural in the downtown is dope af

Link Posted: 3/22/2023 2:43:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
"Following the meeting between Xi Jinping and Putin, a joint statement of the parties was published:

the Russian Federation and China are sure that there can be no winners in a nuclear war and it should never be unleashed;

Russia positively assesses China's position towards Ukraine, and China positively assesses Russia's readiness to start negotiations;

the Russian Federation and China are concerned about the risks associated with the creation of AUKUS and their plans to build nuclear submarines;

the Russian Federation and China call on AUKUS to strictly fulfill its obligations regarding the non-proliferation of weapons of mass destruction;

The Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China plan to strengthen a comprehensive partnership in the field of energy;

The Russian Federation and China believe that in order to solve the "Ukrainian crisis" it is necessary to prevent bloc confrontation and incitement of the conflict;

The Russian Federation and China are concerned about the military-biological activities of the United States and demand an explanation on this matter;

the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China will expand scientific exchanges to ensure the technological leadership of the two countries;

The Russian Federation and China call to avoid the degradation of the crisis in Ukraine and its transition "into an uncontrolled phase";

Russia and China oppose all unilateral sanctions imposed to circumvent the UN Security Council;

Russia and China insist that the USA accelerate the liquidation of its stockpile of chemical weapons;

Russia and China will strengthen cooperation in agriculture to ensure food security;

The Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China plan to promote mutual and global energy security;

Russia and China insist that NATO strictly adhere to the defensive nature of its organization and respect foreign sovereignty;

The Russian Federation and China oppose the formation of "closed exclusive bloc structures, bloc politics and anti-combat camps";

the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China will increase the scale and optimize the structure of trade, including through the development of electronic trade;

the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China are going to increase the level of financial cooperation;

The US must respond to the legitimate concerns of North Korea with real actions and create conditions for dialogue."

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I'm a little surprised at how much attention the media has given to dictator Xi visiting his fellow dictator Putin and the repetition of its propaganda talking points that amount to nothing at the end of the day.
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"In total, 21 enemy UAVs were launched from the northern direction (Bryansk region of the russian federation).
The forces and means of the Air Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other components of the Defense Forces of Ukraine destroyed 16 out of 21 attack UAVs"

https://mobile.twitter.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1638434547191762945
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Originally Posted By enemy:



What's India selling to Russia that's improtant to their war effort? Every day in India is a post acpolypse for millions of people. They desperatly need oil/petro products. Same with Iranian oil. Basically India sells IT services and low end consumer products and food. Most of their GDP is internally derived. They aren't trading anything that could be used offensively.

The US props up their two main enemies via various methods.
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It seems like the Pakistan angle might be possible?  We ask India to stop buying Orc oil and we will reduce our help to Pakistan (a good idea to begin with) and increase our help to India.



Link Posted: 3/22/2023 6:03:35 AM EDT
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got it
@easterner
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Well done.


Link Posted: 3/22/2023 6:18:51 AM EDT
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8 to 10 months.  WTF people?

I am really starting to think that the reason we aren't send them is that some general/s at the top don't want to be embarrassed when some of them get blown up.  And some will get blown up.


Link Posted: 3/22/2023 6:54:53 AM EDT
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Russia is deploying t54s and 55s to Ukraine now





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Russia prevents freedom of navigation in the Black Sea, Ukraine supplies wheat to countries in need, and France helps transport it to its destination. After Somalia and Ethiopia comes Yemen: - @MinColonna
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 7:08:12 AM EDT
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Wow.
Russian sources on Twitter already trying to spin it as Ukrainian air defense.

Link Posted: 3/22/2023 7:11:15 AM EDT
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Wow.
Russian sources on Twitter already trying to spin it as Ukrainian air defense.

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Link Posted: 3/22/2023 7:15:33 AM EDT
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The Shahid's night attack did not go unanswered.
The occupation administration in Sevastopol reports a nighttime attack by naval drones and UAVs 😉

The Third Force

https://t.me/The3rdForceUA/15719



Link Posted: 3/22/2023 7:38:09 AM EDT
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Atesh agents infiltrated the 24th separate special forces brigade of the Main Directorate (GRU) of the RF Armed Forces

It is very entertaining to see how such a famous structure lives and functions live. But of greater interest to us are weaknesses and service information.

We continue to work!

https://t.me/atesh_ua/587
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 7:39:58 AM EDT
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Video of the T-55s.
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 7:40:47 AM EDT
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Oryx seems to confirm

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Link Posted: 3/22/2023 7:44:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By strykr:

How would you feel about Russia drafting Ukrainian people from Donbas or Crimea to fight for them in their coming wars? Minorities are always convenient to raise an army cause if they die, they are no longer a problem.
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They already are forcefully conscripting Ukrainian men in the areas they "annexed"  and using them as meat.  The problem with your position is the difference is Russia is doing this to most Ukrainians they can get their hands on in territory no one recognizes as theirs.  The Ukrainian citizens of Hungarian decent being drafted into the UA citizens have been UA citizens all their lives as were their father before them.  That territory has not been Hungarian for 80 years and is undisputedly UA and not Hungary.
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 7:47:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:


So Xi told Putin under no circumstances is he to start a nuke exchange it appears. Good. Now Putin can shut his trap about threatening  NUKES! every time someone farts in his general direction.
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Originally Posted By HIPPO:
”Following the meeting between Xi Jinping and Putin, a joint statement of the parties was published:

🔹 the Russian Federation and China are sure that there can be no winners in a nuclear war and it should never be unleashed;

🔹 Russia positively assesses China's position towards Ukraine, and China positively assesses Russia's readiness to start negotiations;

🔹 the Russian Federation and China are concerned about the risks associated with the creation of AUKUS and their plans to build nuclear submarines;

🔹 the Russian Federation and China call on AUKUS to strictly fulfill its obligations regarding the non-proliferation of weapons of mass destruction;

🔹 The Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China plan to strengthen a comprehensive partnership in the field of energy;

🔹 The Russian Federation and China believe that in order to solve the "Ukrainian crisis" it is necessary to prevent bloc confrontation and incitement of the conflict;

🔹 The Russian Federation and China are concerned about the military-biological activities of the United States and demand an explanation on this matter;

🔹 the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China will expand scientific exchanges to ensure the technological leadership of the two countries;

🔹 The Russian Federation and China call to avoid the degradation of the crisis in Ukraine and its transition "into an uncontrolled phase";

🔹 Russia and China oppose all unilateral sanctions imposed to circumvent the UN Security Council;

🔹 Russia and China insist that the USA accelerate the liquidation of its stockpile of chemical weapons;

🔹 Russia and China will strengthen cooperation in agriculture to ensure food security;

🔹 The Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China plan to promote mutual and global energy security;

🔹 Russia and China insist that NATO strictly adhere to the defensive nature of its organization and respect foreign sovereignty;

🔹 The Russian Federation and China oppose the formation of "closed exclusive bloc structures, bloc politics and anti-combat camps";

🔹 the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China will increase the scale and optimize the structure of trade, including through the development of electronic trade;

🔹 the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China are going to increase the level of financial cooperation;

🔹 The US must respond to the legitimate concerns of North Korea with real actions and create conditions for dialogue.”



So Xi told Putin under no circumstances is he to start a nuke exchange it appears. Good. Now Putin can shut his trap about threatening  NUKES! every time someone farts in his general direction.


What Russia and China say, is often much different than what they do.  Words carry little weight.
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 7:59:18 AM EDT
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Air raid sirens back on in Zaporizhzhia. Guess one apartment building wasn’t enough.
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Zaporizhzhia mayor

Today, damned racist creatures attacked our peaceful city in broad daylight.

Two nine-story buildings with civilians came under fire from this insidious piece of junk. At this time, 18 victims are known (including two children aged 7 and 9). 11 adults are hospitalized (four of them are in serious condition, seven are in moderate condition). Another five people received medical assistance at the place of arrival. The children are now being taken to medical facilities.

Information on the scale of the destruction is being clarified.

Rescuers from the State Emergency Service and the city emergency rescue service, doctors, psychologists, social security workers, volunteers, and the city association of shelters are working on the spot. A tent from the city council was deployed, and the nearest shopping malls were opened. Communal buses arrived.

Russia is a country of vile terrorists that has no right to exist.

https://t.me/kurtievofficial/9562
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 8:06:07 AM EDT
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Leo and Kate are still in Kharkiv delivering care packages.

Looks like today is bombathon since that railway strike in Crimea.

I'm home sewing a ghillie suit, and translating posts to English.

"Our position is clear and simple. Children are the future. We will protect and provide for them, as well as our soldiers"

https://twitter.com/C_fGarnizon/status/1638509914724216832?s=20
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Russia's 'Genius Move' :

deploy obsolete T55s to the front to soak up all Ukraine's anti-armor missiles !  

then attack with the 'good stuff' when Ukraine is low / out of AT munitions
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Originally Posted By MFP_4073:

Russia's 'Genius Move' :

deploy obsolete T55s to the front to soak up all Ukraine's anti-armor missiles !  

then attack with the 'good stuff' when Ukraine is low / out of AT munitions
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Yes then THE REAL VDV will show up too!

At this point, it's just a matter of time before the T-34s show up.
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 8:38:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Brok3n:

Yes then THE REAL VDV will show up too!

At this point, it's just a matter of time before the T-34s show up.
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What cal in the main gun on a t55?
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100mm
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lol, it has begun.  The joke made at the beginning of this war has become reality.
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Originally Posted By Birddog15:



8 to 10 months.  WTF people?

I am really starting to think that the reason we aren't send them is that some general/s at the top don't want to be embarrassed when some of them get blown up.  And some will get blown up.


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Originally Posted By Birddog15:



8 to 10 months.  WTF people?

I am really starting to think that the reason we aren't send them is that some general/s at the top don't want to be embarrassed when some of them get blown up.  And some will get blown up.





I honestly think there is a sort of "shell game" being played with pledged weapons and the time they are supposed to get to the front.

I'm willing to bet M1's will be fighting in theatre by May/June, just my guess.
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Originally Posted By Birddog15:



8 to 10 months.  WTF people?

I am really starting to think that the reason we aren't send them is that some general/s at the top don't want to be embarrassed when some of them get blown up.  And some will get blown up.


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Whether we just accept that it takes that long to de-mod the tanks or on the other end, think the US is slow walking everything to maybe reduce Russia more can be debated. I think actions speak louderthan political words. If it was London being attacked, would it still take that long? IMO, doubt it. The DoD is going to get rich off this war. Who else is winning?
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:


Wrong analogy. Donbas and Crimea are in Ukraine. So of course that is outrageous that Russia would invade, capture and then conscript those peoples. Ukraine is conscripting Ukraine citizens in Ukraine that speak Hungarian. Totally different apples.

More like Russia conscripting some of central Asian minorities within its own provinces which they are doing far more than from Moscow and St Petersburg.
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Forced conscription of a conquered people to fight against their own country is an explicitly spelled out war crime (what Russia is doing). Yes you are correct that is not what Ukraine is doing.

Even in America, "undocumented immigrants/refugees/parolees" are required to register with Selective Service. https://www.sss.gov/register/immigrants/

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This is just unreal, these T-54/55 are 60 - 70 years old.

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lol, it has begun.  The joke made at the beginning of this war has become reality.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



lol, it has begun.  The joke made at the beginning of this war has become reality.


When we will see the T-34s?  



Link Posted: 3/22/2023 8:58:37 AM EDT
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Sevastopol Harbour Attacked by Unmanned Maritime Drones Again! Plus, satellite imagery from the 21st
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When we will see the T-34s?  



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Unfortunately, I don't think they have enough. They bought 30 from Laos in 2019 for parades and movies so I don't think the "vast warehouses of military equipment" myth applies to them either.
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Originally Posted By strykr:

How would you feel about Russia drafting Ukrainian people from Donbas or Crimea to fight for them in their coming wars? Minorities are always convenient to raise an army cause if they die, they are no longer a problem.
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:


The other thing i was told is that they are being "Mistreated" Becuase they are being drafted to fight for Ukraine


How would you feel about Russia drafting Ukrainian people from Donbas or Crimea to fight for them in their coming wars? Minorities are always convenient to raise an army cause if they die, they are no longer a problem.


Not the same. At all.

Native Americans, native Alaskans, and ethnic Mexicans from the southwest states were drafted in WWII. Was there a problem with that?
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3 hrs ago.






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I can't believe the match up is actually going to look like this in a few months.

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Russia STRONK!

Holding back the best forces! It's all a feint!

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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



lol, it has begun.  The joke made at the beginning of this war has become reality.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



lol, it has begun.  The joke made at the beginning of this war has become reality.

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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:


When we will see the T-34s?  



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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



lol, it has begun.  The joke made at the beginning of this war has become reality.


When we will see the T-34s?  




I'm holding out for the IS-2s.
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