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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
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It says it's been moved, but the link just takes me to the Community page. What gives?


This is now the active "shit (might be) is definitely happening in Ukraine" thread.

News links, thanks to BerettaGuy:
Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:
LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH

Kyiv Post

Ukrainian News

UKRInform

EUROMAIDEN PRESS

New Voice of Ukraine

Kyiv Independent

Ukraine World

InterFax Ukraine

UATV

Ukrainian Journal

Official Website of the President of Ukraine

Ukrainian Ministry of Defense

Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often.
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Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise.

New news link c/o berettaguy:

Ukrainian Pravda
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/

Stop fake, anti - disinformation site:
https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:

That is fine, except for the fact that it doesn't address the "Mass" issue, the need for expanded capabilities, etc, and also doesn't do anything to break the Institutional issues.  If you could "break the phalanx" of the PBBE and DOTML-PF bureaucracy, modify "up-or-out" promotion policies, and reduce the # of billets requiring GO/FOs and/or GS equivalents, you could fund most of the shortfalls for personnel.  Among the services, they are all "rank-heavy" with the Air Force being in the worst shape (though they are all desperately in need of a "senior structure diet").  Also, we need to break the stovepipes between capabilities, similar to the partial functional merger of the Field Artillery, ADA, and to sone extent, the Army Aviation Branch in the early 2010's, which greatly speeded up the delivery of ALL fires functions and created a world where an Infantry Company Commander, if he has a sharp FSO whose done the proper coordination, can get information relayed up to Theater-Level HIMAD ADA and Fires assets and receive information in return, or that Battalion and Brigade commanders can monitor in real time the Ground, Air, and Artillery fight simultaneously.  My take is that we need to rapidly expand our reserve components (especially National Guard, as these seem to be better supported than Federal Reserve forces and are much harder to cut) even at some expense to the AC force and work on the Active Component to develop and implement the "cutting edge" tech fieldings and serve as the "Tip of the Spear"; which means that ROTC and OCS will still be necessary (and may even need to expand, as improving "Mass" means you'll need More junior/Company Grade officers out doing Company Grade officer things, either on a part-time or full-time basis) .  I am OK with the Academies as four-year institutions, but I would add a "qualifying service requirement" of Military Service of some form Prior to application.  For direct Congressional Appointees, the process can go as it currently is, but once accepted, you have to serve a certain time as an enlisted before you actually enroll at West Point.  This will keep standards high but deter the folks merely applying to get the degree then do the minimum.  Going Forward, a lot will need to change.
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott:
Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:
Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Interesting lessons learned article: Lessons From Ukraine Many Don’t Want to Hear

Click To View SpoilerLink to sauce

They're not wrong.  I would add that a few quibbles (such as it tends to minimize Airborne's capability to rapidly reinforce isolated formations, which is something that Airborne is really good at but the the US seldom trains for) which can rapidly increase "mass" of ground forces provided you can achieve local air superiority.


Short version of the change I think the Army has to make to survive the coming budget crunch and be ready: cut from 11 Abn battalions to 5, which would all be Rangers. Invest massively in new equipment that reduces crew requirements—autoloading tanks, SPHs and self propelled mortars. Slash the institutional Army by abandoning the idea that we will ever have a draft, move forces to a strategic and operational reserve and use a smaller active Army (but provide staff officers and higher level commanders for the reserve force from active). It would be a less ready Army but once mobilized, more powerful than we have today and at a substantially reduced cost.

One of the more controversial ideas I have for reducing the institutional Army is to end ROTC. I hate the thought of ending the civil-military connection but I would largely make up for it by turning West Point into Sandhurst. Officer candidates would complete civilian education, apply to OCS, be selected, then go for 12 months at West Point. All line officers active and reserve would.

That is fine, except for the fact that it doesn't address the "Mass" issue, the need for expanded capabilities, etc, and also doesn't do anything to break the Institutional issues.  If you could "break the phalanx" of the PBBE and DOTML-PF bureaucracy, modify "up-or-out" promotion policies, and reduce the # of billets requiring GO/FOs and/or GS equivalents, you could fund most of the shortfalls for personnel.  Among the services, they are all "rank-heavy" with the Air Force being in the worst shape (though they are all desperately in need of a "senior structure diet").  Also, we need to break the stovepipes between capabilities, similar to the partial functional merger of the Field Artillery, ADA, and to sone extent, the Army Aviation Branch in the early 2010's, which greatly speeded up the delivery of ALL fires functions and created a world where an Infantry Company Commander, if he has a sharp FSO whose done the proper coordination, can get information relayed up to Theater-Level HIMAD ADA and Fires assets and receive information in return, or that Battalion and Brigade commanders can monitor in real time the Ground, Air, and Artillery fight simultaneously.  My take is that we need to rapidly expand our reserve components (especially National Guard, as these seem to be better supported than Federal Reserve forces and are much harder to cut) even at some expense to the AC force and work on the Active Component to develop and implement the "cutting edge" tech fieldings and serve as the "Tip of the Spear"; which means that ROTC and OCS will still be necessary (and may even need to expand, as improving "Mass" means you'll need More junior/Company Grade officers out doing Company Grade officer things, either on a part-time or full-time basis) .  I am OK with the Academies as four-year institutions, but I would add a "qualifying service requirement" of Military Service of some form Prior to application.  For direct Congressional Appointees, the process can go as it currently is, but once accepted, you have to serve a certain time as an enlisted before you actually enroll at West Point.  This will keep standards high but deter the folks merely applying to get the degree then do the minimum.  Going Forward, a lot will need to change.

We need Sylvan in here.

The service academies are not military institutions anymore, they're social institutions. Spenser Rappone ring a bell? He didn't get through alone in some stealthy way. There were undoubtedly faculty who knew his leanings. There are certainly "social justice" forces working in the service academies. I'm all for military reform to improve effectiveness and cost effectiveness. But academy reform needs to happen too.
Link Posted: 3/11/2023 9:04:13 PM EDT
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Not sure if this has been posted. Quality video.
Link Posted: 3/11/2023 9:08:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:


I'm wondering when the first terror attack with drones will happen.



These fuckers are taking notes.

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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:


Because it is inconvenient.  From a "guns/butter" perspective, no one writing, approving, or executing the budgetary process wants to hear the truth, that in the drone vs manned aircraft vs air defense argument, the answer to "which capability we need to prioritize" is "All of the above", or that much of the new capabilities we are seeing do not "replace" or supersede existing capabilities but instead create an entirely new dimension of the battlefield that needs to be addressed.  War is expensive and is going to get a whole lot pricier!

I look forward to the day that we create a bird sized drone that can travel 200km with a dragon fly sized drone payload. Takes it to a destination and drops it off. It would leave the area and self destruct. The payload can "hibernate" and wake up via satellite up to 3 months, and be used to take out a single target at say, a public event.
That could cause some panic.


I'm wondering when the first terror attack with drones will happen.



These fuckers are taking notes.


I’m wondering when Skynet becomes self-aware.
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Originally Posted By Capta:

I’m wondering when Skynet becomes self-aware.
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Originally Posted By Capta:
Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:


Because it is inconvenient.  From a "guns/butter" perspective, no one writing, approving, or executing the budgetary process wants to hear the truth, that in the drone vs manned aircraft vs air defense argument, the answer to "which capability we need to prioritize" is "All of the above", or that much of the new capabilities we are seeing do not "replace" or supersede existing capabilities but instead create an entirely new dimension of the battlefield that needs to be addressed.  War is expensive and is going to get a whole lot pricier!

I look forward to the day that we create a bird sized drone that can travel 200km with a dragon fly sized drone payload. Takes it to a destination and drops it off. It would leave the area and self destruct. The payload can "hibernate" and wake up via satellite up to 3 months, and be used to take out a single target at say, a public event.
That could cause some panic.


I'm wondering when the first terror attack with drones will happen.



These fuckers are taking notes.


I’m wondering when Skynet becomes self-aware.





https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/first-military-ai-controlled-flight-ever

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/02/the-us-air-force-successfully-tested-this-ai-controlled-jet-fighter/
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://i.imgur.com/QLvevAp.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zdcZ3vG.jpg



Crowdfunding AFVs... crazy times.



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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://i.imgur.com/QLvevAp.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zdcZ3vG.jpg

The first 24 out of 101 armored vehicles crowdfunded by Serhiy Prytula Foundation for the Ukrainian army were delivered, they were previously in service with the British army and are made up of a 8 models, Spartan, Samaritan, Sultan, Stormer, Shielder, Samson, FV 434, and FV 432


Crowdfunding AFVs... crazy times.




It’s not too far off from war bonds.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAGWCitiwtI
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I know that the MTLB can do almost anything, but does this combat footage look a little suspect to anyone else?
Link Posted: 3/11/2023 9:16:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://i.imgur.com/QLvevAp.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zdcZ3vG.jpg



Crowdfunding AFVs... crazy times.



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Those have done great the last few months
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I know that the MTLB can do almost anything, but does this combat footage look a little suspect to anyone else?
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAGWCitiwtI


I know that the MTLB can do almost anything, but does this combat footage look a little suspect to anyone else?


Some people think everything is fake.


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It was funny at the beginning,  but I seriously lost it at the 1:30 mark and after.
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That channel has some funny stuff on it.

Reminds me of Catshit One.
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that was so wrong but I'm laughing
Link Posted: 3/11/2023 9:25:00 PM EDT
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Who's set up is this ?


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It was funny at the beginning,  but I seriously lost it at the 1:30 mark and after.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq4YKvxXoAEFsAP?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq4YL6fXgAA44_A?format=jpg&name=large

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAGWCitiwtI



It was funny at the beginning,  but I seriously lost it at the 1:30 mark and after.
It's exactly what would happen if Kerbals could build armor instead of just rockets.  Hahaha!
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I want a 179mm Glock
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Originally Posted By Prime:


Part two.

Oops

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/EE1D6426-CB45-4B72-9F2F-E21F43E2DB62-2741997.jpg
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Of course we don’t have full context but I always find it interesting to see dudes under fire (at relatively short range) who seem to have no idea where it’s coming from.  I can see long range fire, suppressed, but I guess I thought it would be relatively easy to tell in most circumstances.  Never been there myself.
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Hand cannon!
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:


I'm wondering when the first terror attack with drones will happen.



These fuckers are taking notes.

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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:


Because it is inconvenient.  From a "guns/butter" perspective, no one writing, approving, or executing the budgetary process wants to hear the truth, that in the drone vs manned aircraft vs air defense argument, the answer to "which capability we need to prioritize" is "All of the above", or that much of the new capabilities we are seeing do not "replace" or supersede existing capabilities but instead create an entirely new dimension of the battlefield that needs to be addressed.  War is expensive and is going to get a whole lot pricier!

I look forward to the day that we create a bird sized drone that can travel 200km with a dragon fly sized drone payload. Takes it to a destination and drops it off. It would leave the area and self destruct. The payload can "hibernate" and wake up via satellite up to 3 months, and be used to take out a single target at say, a public event.
That could cause some panic.


I'm wondering when the first terror attack with drones will happen.



These fuckers are taking notes.



I don't really think they make much sense for terrorists, unless they need to escape after. Or if they are targeting a high value, protected individual.

The 'throw weight' for a drone is just so much less then that of a disposable durka-durka with a backpack or S-vest or truck of peace.
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Originally Posted By amanbearpig:

Hand cannon!
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A 7 inch pistol
Link Posted: 3/11/2023 9:48:12 PM EDT
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Predator

Well, of course not M4A1🇺🇸
But not bad either
P.S. welcome to hell🦅🇺🇦


https://t.me/lost_generation_21/118
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Nice.  Maybe keep that quiet though.
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Predator

Well, of course not M4A1🇺🇸
But not bad either
P.S. welcome to hell🦅🇺🇦

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/0617F343-F5A2-4345-B4FA-3F63DA28A50A-2742361.jpg
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That thing is barely even fit to kill commies. He needs some rattle-cans before that ugly paint job gets him killed.
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So much LOL ... while Ukies are getting Abrams and Leopards ... these idiots are stepping back in time ...
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T-62s, upgrayyed


So much LOL ... while Ukies are getting Abrams and Leopards ... these idiots are stepping back in time ...

To be fair Leopard 1s are about the same.  But it’s interesting to note that they’re having to go with a T62 rebuild instead of T72s.  I guess that could mean that everything salvageable from their reserve T72s has already been taken and what’s left is just scrap.
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That thing is barely even fit to kill commies. He needs some rattle-cans before that ugly paint job gets him killed.
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He got a new grip though
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Originally Posted By Capta:

To be fair Leopard 1s are about the same.  But it's interesting to note that they're having to go with a T62 rebuild instead of T72s.  I guess that could mean that everything salvageable from their reserve T72s has already been taken and what's left is just scrap.
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That is nuts
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Post 9,000 for me. A theory on how UA will break ruZZia’s back in the south. Long thread but with the 5-10 minutes it will take to read.

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This kind of stuff alone should depress the hell out of Russians up and down the line. A huge chunk of the competent and effective world is against them doing this kind of work pro bono.



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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

We need Sylvan in here.

The service academies are not military institutions anymore, they're social institutions. Spenser Rappone ring a bell? He didn't get through alone in some stealthy way. There were undoubtedly faculty who knew his leanings. There are certainly "social justice" forces working in the service academies. I'm all for military reform to improve effectiveness and cost effectiveness. But academy reform needs to happen too.
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:
Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott:
Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:
Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Interesting lessons learned article: Lessons From Ukraine Many Don’t Want to Hear

Click To View SpoilerLink to sauce

They're not wrong.  I would add that a few quibbles (such as it tends to minimize Airborne's capability to rapidly reinforce isolated formations, which is something that Airborne is really good at but the the US seldom trains for) which can rapidly increase "mass" of ground forces provided you can achieve local air superiority.


Short version of the change I think the Army has to make to survive the coming budget crunch and be ready: cut from 11 Abn battalions to 5, which would all be Rangers. Invest massively in new equipment that reduces crew requirements—autoloading tanks, SPHs and self propelled mortars. Slash the institutional Army by abandoning the idea that we will ever have a draft, move forces to a strategic and operational reserve and use a smaller active Army (but provide staff officers and higher level commanders for the reserve force from active). It would be a less ready Army but once mobilized, more powerful than we have today and at a substantially reduced cost.

One of the more controversial ideas I have for reducing the institutional Army is to end ROTC. I hate the thought of ending the civil-military connection but I would largely make up for it by turning West Point into Sandhurst. Officer candidates would complete civilian education, apply to OCS, be selected, then go for 12 months at West Point. All line officers active and reserve would.

That is fine, except for the fact that it doesn't address the "Mass" issue, the need for expanded capabilities, etc, and also doesn't do anything to break the Institutional issues.  If you could "break the phalanx" of the PBBE and DOTML-PF bureaucracy, modify "up-or-out" promotion policies, and reduce the # of billets requiring GO/FOs and/or GS equivalents, you could fund most of the shortfalls for personnel.  Among the services, they are all "rank-heavy" with the Air Force being in the worst shape (though they are all desperately in need of a "senior structure diet").  Also, we need to break the stovepipes between capabilities, similar to the partial functional merger of the Field Artillery, ADA, and to sone extent, the Army Aviation Branch in the early 2010's, which greatly speeded up the delivery of ALL fires functions and created a world where an Infantry Company Commander, if he has a sharp FSO whose done the proper coordination, can get information relayed up to Theater-Level HIMAD ADA and Fires assets and receive information in return, or that Battalion and Brigade commanders can monitor in real time the Ground, Air, and Artillery fight simultaneously.  My take is that we need to rapidly expand our reserve components (especially National Guard, as these seem to be better supported than Federal Reserve forces and are much harder to cut) even at some expense to the AC force and work on the Active Component to develop and implement the "cutting edge" tech fieldings and serve as the "Tip of the Spear"; which means that ROTC and OCS will still be necessary (and may even need to expand, as improving "Mass" means you'll need More junior/Company Grade officers out doing Company Grade officer things, either on a part-time or full-time basis) .  I am OK with the Academies as four-year institutions, but I would add a "qualifying service requirement" of Military Service of some form Prior to application.  For direct Congressional Appointees, the process can go as it currently is, but once accepted, you have to serve a certain time as an enlisted before you actually enroll at West Point.  This will keep standards high but deter the folks merely applying to get the degree then do the minimum.  Going Forward, a lot will need to change.

We need Sylvan in here.

The service academies are not military institutions anymore, they're social institutions. Spenser Rappone ring a bell? He didn't get through alone in some stealthy way. There were undoubtedly faculty who knew his leanings. There are certainly "social justice" forces working in the service academies. I'm all for military reform to improve effectiveness and cost effectiveness. But academy reform needs to happen too.


Totally Concur.  Note my "service before enrollment" requirement.  Not to mention the academies themselves will need to be restructured, and given a vinegar enema.
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Post 9,000 for me. A theory on how UA will break ruZZia’s back in the south. Long thread but with the 5-10 minutes it will take to read.

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I appreciate Theiner's optimism, and his threads are usually pretty informative (for Twitter), but there is NO WAY Ukraine can prepare multiple brigades to pull off a combined arms attack of that magnitude in the available time. Maybe 1 Brigade could conduct a breach like that shown in the video, but his thread was about multiple breach points and 10s or 100s of km of frontage and depth.

If all of those Brigades he mentioned were fully equipped TODAY, and spent 100% of their time behind the lines doing LFXs and rehearsals for the next 3-6 months, then MAYBE they would be ready by June...or more like September.

It isn't just the MBTs and IFVs, it is all the LOG and CSS/CSSS stuff that has to be there to keep food, fuel and ammo flowing forward, and a huge amount of medical care, maintenance, and other things flowing in reverse.

And nothing against the Ukrainians but you don't want to attempt an attack of that scale halfway, or you'll have your balls in a bear trap when it fizzles out (culminates earlier than intended).

And I think Theiner is correct though, it will take a total effort of that scale he describes to drive the Russians out. The Oligarchs aren't really feeling enough pressure to take care of Putin for us.

This war will go on for another year, at least.

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I started having my doubts when the naval gun showed up. The airliner was awesome.
Link Posted: 3/11/2023 10:11:39 PM EDT
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Soldiers of CSO "A" of the SBU on Can-Am Outlander quad bikes and Polaris buggies.
Photo of 2022.

CADET


https://t.me/ukrcadet/1648
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Wow
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I started having my doubts when the naval gun showed up. The airliner was awesome.
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Originally Posted By GTLandser:


I know that the MTLB can do almost anything, but does this combat footage look a little suspect to anyone else?

I started having my doubts when the naval gun showed up. The airliner was awesome.


Shit, that was the most inaccurate part of the video...we know sure as shit that the Russians can hit civilian airliners.
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It may be wishful thinking, but I’m increasingly feeling like Russia is impaling itself and the facade may be more fragile than the rest of the world appreciates.
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:


That is fine, except for the fact that it doesn't address the "Mass" issue, the need for expanded capabilities, etc, and also doesn't do anything to break the Institutional issues.  If you could "break the phalanx" of the PBBE and DOTML-PF bureaucracy, modify "up-or-out" promotion policies, and reduce the # of billets requiring GO/FOs and/or GS equivalents, you could fund most of the shortfalls for personnel.  Among the services, they are all "rank-heavy" with the Air Force being in the worst shape (though they are all desperately in need of a "senior structure diet").
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That is fine, except for the fact that it doesn't address the "Mass" issue, the need for expanded capabilities, etc, and also doesn't do anything to break the Institutional issues.  If you could "break the phalanx" of the PBBE and DOTML-PF bureaucracy, modify "up-or-out" promotion policies, and reduce the # of billets requiring GO/FOs and/or GS equivalents, you could fund most of the shortfalls for personnel.  Among the services, they are all "rank-heavy" with the Air Force being in the worst shape (though they are all desperately in need of a "senior structure diet").

Time in grade and time in service could be extended for sure. A lot of the demand for more senior guys could probably be relieved with guys that have the same number of years even if they are less senior. And more warrants! USAF I’m looking at you.

Also, we need to break the stovepipes between capabilities, similar to the partial functional merger of the Field Artillery, ADA, and to sone extent, the Army Aviation Branch in the early 2010's, which greatly speeded up the delivery of ALL fires functions and created a world where an Infantry Company Commander, if he has a sharp FSO whose done the proper coordination, can get information relayed up to Theater-Level HIMAD ADA and Fires assets and receive information in return, or that Battalion and Brigade commanders can monitor in real time the Ground, Air, and Artillery fight simultaneously.
 
It’s time to ask if the branch system is an advantage or an impediment and if we might be better served with long time in service and time in grade so you get guys with some depth of experience. Europeans often have junior officers with as much time as US field grades and it works for them. Don’t need to zoom everyone up like they might be the next Chief of Staff…

My take is that we need to rapidly expand our reserve components (especially National Guard, as these seem to be better supported than Federal Reserve forces and are much harder to cut) even at some expense to the AC force and work on the Active Component to develop and implement the "cutting edge" tech fieldings and serve as the "Tip of the Spear"; which means that ROTC and OCS will still be necessary (and may even need to expand, as improving "Mass" means you'll need More junior/Company Grade officers out doing Company Grade officer things, either on a part-time or full-time basis).

The federal reserve is a mess compared even to NG. Just get rid of it. But there needs to be operational and strategic reserves. HIMARS13A was saying that we should use life cycle (1 active 4 reserve years) for operational reserves. It seems smart to me.

I am OK with the Academies as four-year institutions, but I would add a "qualifying service requirement" of Military Service of some form Prior to application.  For direct Congressional Appointees, the process can go as it currently is, but once accepted, you have to serve a certain time as an enlisted before you actually enroll at West Point.  This will keep standards high but deter the folks merely applying to get the degree then do the minimum.  Going Forward, a lot will need to change.

If we made USMA a 1 year program that you applied to contingent to graduating college the free college people would be cut right out. My college room mate ended up being an officer in the Army because he was seen leaving the financial aid office on a deadline day, visibly upset. He’s a great guy but hanging out looking for guys in a tight spot with college money is not a substitute for proper hiring practices.
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Time in grade and time in service could be extended for sure. A lot of the demand for more senior guys could probably be relieved with guys that have the same number of years even if they are less senior. And more warrants! USAF I’m looking at you.

 
It’s time to ask if the branch system is an advantage or an impediment and if we might be better served with long time in service and time in grade so you get guys with some depth of experience. Europeans often have junior officers with as much time as US field grades and it works for them. Don’t need to zoom everyone up like they might be the next Chief of Staff…
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Link Posted: 3/11/2023 11:03:57 PM EDT
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I’m eager to hear more about those EW drone counter measures the Russians were successfully using in a couple areas we heard about.

Something that could seek those out like a HARM would be fan-freakin-tastic.
Link Posted: 3/11/2023 11:21:04 PM EDT
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I know it ain't much, but I like that the USAF can show the flag and screw with the Russians. Buff up over the Med. Will be interesting to watch today.

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Germany has a "sparkling wine tax" - "Schaumweinsteuer", established 1902 to fund the Navy.

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When my wife buys wine at Aldi's is she helping pay for a Type 212 diesel submarine?
Link Posted: 3/11/2023 11:23:41 PM EDT
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Unless he has given entirely contradictory statements to foreign media (highly doubtful), he never said such a thing. I've checked all the major local press and news agencies and not a single one repeats what you claim. What foreign press distorts based on misreadings of local media is not on my radar.

For the DM to claim that we “are not sending any” or even “we could not send any” would be almost as idiotic as Marin making the suggestion without it actually being part of Finnish state policy. Marin is an idiot who doesn't act her office (or even age), but please don't assume all our politicians are her class.

She is a huge embarrassment to the nation and her impulsive suggestions are not helpful. Ukrainians will just feel betrayed when what she says is not going to be implemented and will have to be backtracked by the adults actually running the show. When she mentioned in Kiev that “the discussions [about Hornets to Ukraine] are in the very early stages” apparently meant only in her head. While she is the PM, she doesn't have the authority to make such decisions on her own. She would need the support of the Centre Party (of DM Kaikkonen) to get the votes. It is unlikely that after the April parliament elections she will even have a seat in the government.

Kaikkonen served in the Anti-Aircraft forces of the Finnish Army. He at least knows which side the missiles come of a jet fighter. She, not so much.
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He literally said that they could not send f18’s.
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So not sure how I’m incorrect when I repeated what he said.

Unless he has given entirely contradictory statements to foreign media (highly doubtful), he never said such a thing. I've checked all the major local press and news agencies and not a single one repeats what you claim. What foreign press distorts based on misreadings of local media is not on my radar.

For the DM to claim that we “are not sending any” or even “we could not send any” would be almost as idiotic as Marin making the suggestion without it actually being part of Finnish state policy. Marin is an idiot who doesn't act her office (or even age), but please don't assume all our politicians are her class.

She is a huge embarrassment to the nation and her impulsive suggestions are not helpful. Ukrainians will just feel betrayed when what she says is not going to be implemented and will have to be backtracked by the adults actually running the show. When she mentioned in Kiev that “the discussions [about Hornets to Ukraine] are in the very early stages” apparently meant only in her head. While she is the PM, she doesn't have the authority to make such decisions on her own. She would need the support of the Centre Party (of DM Kaikkonen) to get the votes. It is unlikely that after the April parliament elections she will even have a seat in the government.

Kaikkonen served in the Anti-Aircraft forces of the Finnish Army. He at least knows which side the missiles come of a jet fighter. She, not so much.


I don’t think you can call her an idiot for suggesting Finland will send their F-18s.  Practically every nation in Europe has played (and is playing) the will-they-won’t-they fuckery with fighters.  Poland, Denmark, the Netherlands, Britain, Czechia, Slovakia, and the US.  They’re playing a game for unknown reasons and it’s quite likely Finland is playing their part of it.
Link Posted: 3/11/2023 11:36:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott:

Time in grade and time in service could be extended for sure. A lot of the demand for more senior guys could probably be relieved with guys that have the same number of years even if they are less senior. And more warrants! USAF I’m looking at you.

 
It’s time to ask if the branch system is an advantage or an impediment and if we might be better served with long time in service and time in grade so you get guys with some depth of experience. Europeans often have junior officers with as much time as US field grades and it works for them. Don’t need to zoom everyone up like they might be the next Chief of Staff…


The federal reserve is a mess compared even to NG. Just get rid of it. But there needs to be operational and strategic reserves. HIMARS13A was saying that we should use life cycle (1 active 4 reserve years) for operational reserves. It seems smart to me.


If we made USMA a 1 year program that you applied to contingent to graduating college the free college people would be cut right out. My college room mate ended up being an officer in the Army because he was seen leaving the financial aid office on a deadline day, visibly upset. He’s a great guy but hanging out looking for guys in a tight spot with college money is not a substitute for proper hiring practices.
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:


That is fine, except for the fact that it doesn't address the "Mass" issue, the need for expanded capabilities, etc, and also doesn't do anything to break the Institutional issues.  If you could "break the phalanx" of the PBBE and DOTML-PF bureaucracy, modify "up-or-out" promotion policies, and reduce the # of billets requiring GO/FOs and/or GS equivalents, you could fund most of the shortfalls for personnel.  Among the services, they are all "rank-heavy" with the Air Force being in the worst shape (though they are all desperately in need of a "senior structure diet").

Time in grade and time in service could be extended for sure. A lot of the demand for more senior guys could probably be relieved with guys that have the same number of years even if they are less senior. And more warrants! USAF I’m looking at you.

Also, we need to break the stovepipes between capabilities, similar to the partial functional merger of the Field Artillery, ADA, and to sone extent, the Army Aviation Branch in the early 2010's, which greatly speeded up the delivery of ALL fires functions and created a world where an Infantry Company Commander, if he has a sharp FSO whose done the proper coordination, can get information relayed up to Theater-Level HIMAD ADA and Fires assets and receive information in return, or that Battalion and Brigade commanders can monitor in real time the Ground, Air, and Artillery fight simultaneously.
 
It’s time to ask if the branch system is an advantage or an impediment and if we might be better served with long time in service and time in grade so you get guys with some depth of experience. Europeans often have junior officers with as much time as US field grades and it works for them. Don’t need to zoom everyone up like they might be the next Chief of Staff…

My take is that we need to rapidly expand our reserve components (especially National Guard, as these seem to be better supported than Federal Reserve forces and are much harder to cut) even at some expense to the AC force and work on the Active Component to develop and implement the "cutting edge" tech fieldings and serve as the "Tip of the Spear"; which means that ROTC and OCS will still be necessary (and may even need to expand, as improving "Mass" means you'll need More junior/Company Grade officers out doing Company Grade officer things, either on a part-time or full-time basis).

The federal reserve is a mess compared even to NG. Just get rid of it. But there needs to be operational and strategic reserves. HIMARS13A was saying that we should use life cycle (1 active 4 reserve years) for operational reserves. It seems smart to me.

I am OK with the Academies as four-year institutions, but I would add a "qualifying service requirement" of Military Service of some form Prior to application.  For direct Congressional Appointees, the process can go as it currently is, but once accepted, you have to serve a certain time as an enlisted before you actually enroll at West Point.  This will keep standards high but deter the folks merely applying to get the degree then do the minimum.  Going Forward, a lot will need to change.

If we made USMA a 1 year program that you applied to contingent to graduating college the free college people would be cut right out. My college room mate ended up being an officer in the Army because he was seen leaving the financial aid office on a deadline day, visibly upset. He’s a great guy but hanging out looking for guys in a tight spot with college money is not a substitute for proper hiring practices.


Time in grade and time in service could be extended for sure. A lot of the demand for more senior guys could probably be relieved with guys that have the same number of years even if they are less senior. And more warrants! USAF I’m looking at you.

In total agreement.  Couldn't have stated it better!

It’s time to ask if the branch system is an advantage or an impediment and if we might be better served with long time in service and time in grade so you get guys with some depth of experience. Europeans often have junior officers with as much time as US field grades and it works for them. Don’t need to zoom everyone up like they might be the next Chief of Staff

Branches are a weird animal.  Some are very good at what they do and add value (Signal Corps comes to mind), while others, not so much.  Some mergers have gone well (the aforementioned integration of FA and ADA into the Fires realm and the formal linkage with Aviation), while some others have been not as successful (the merger of Infantry and Armor in the Maneuver function, in which the Armor branch was treated as the junior partner and shed a lot of their more effective capabilities, or the Looting of the Transportation Corps when they were rolled into the "Logistics" function).  

The combination of our current "up or out" promotion system and "early promotions" by design shortchanges the most promising officers as it ensures they will have less operational experience than other officers of the same grade.  Due to KD and Command time requirements, this necessarily limits the "breadth" of their experience.  This is, of course, a "necessary evil" if you are fighting WWII or something, but can have negative consequences when a commander has less operational experience than his/her peers, or even subordinates.  After all "a double below the zone" guy/gal has at least two years less experience than peers. A system that is more of a "pull" system as opposed to a "push" system will also help to break up the "year group" issue where oftentimes positions are filled with "who's available in this specific group" rather than "who is the most qualified", and can also potentially mitigate some of the damage caused by "Flavor of the Month" promotion policies.  

The federal reserve is a mess compared even to NG. Just get rid of it. But there needs to be operational and strategic reserves. HIMARS13A was saying that we should use life cycle (1 active 4 reserve years) for operational reserves. It seems smart to me.

This matches my experience as well (Served in the FLARNG as enlisted and as an SMP between my Active Duty stints; also served in an AC/RC unit as an Active Duty officer.) The Army Reserve was generally a hot mess above the Company-level, and oftentimes a hot mess top to bottom.  National Guard varied a lot, usually by state from "Nearly as good as an AD unit" to "OMFG"; but I cannot recall any occasion where Army Reserve units above the Company level were better than their equivalent ARNG peers.  Generally AR units were a lot worse from a training and mobilization standpoint than their NG peers.  I  would also open a lot of institutional army jobs/positions to reservists, to include any/all faculty and administrative positions at the Military Academies.  As a matter of fact, faculty would come in three flavors:  Serving National Guard/Reserve members, Active Duty, and Retired Military, with maybe a few Diplomats and retired State Department types that were limited to teaching International/Foreign relations and Civil/Military relations type courses.    

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This kind of stuff alone should depress the hell out of Russians up and down the line. A huge chunk of the competent and effective world is against them doing this kind of work pro bono.



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Post 9,000 for me. A theory on how UA will break ruZZia’s back in the south. Long thread but with the 5-10 minutes it will take to read.

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This kind of stuff alone should depress the hell out of Russians up and down the line. A huge chunk of the competent and effective world is against them doing this kind of work pro bono.






He is spot on! . If the west would just step up to the plate Ukraine would have a chance at a break thru like that.
Link Posted: 3/12/2023 12:00:38 AM EDT
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Because it is inconvenient.  From a "guns/butter" perspective, no one writing, approving, or executing the budgetary process wants to hear the truth, that in the drone vs manned aircraft vs air defense argument, the answer to "which capability we need to prioritize" is "All of the above", or that much of the new capabilities we are seeing do not "replace" or supersede existing capabilities but instead create an entirely new dimension of the battlefield that needs to be addressed.  War is expensive and is going to get a whole lot pricier!

I look forward to the day that we create a bird sized drone that can travel 200km with a dragon fly sized drone payload. Takes it to a destination and drops it off. It would leave the area and self destruct. The payload can "hibernate" and wake up via satellite up to 3 months, and be used to take out a single target at say, a public event.
That could cause some panic.


I'm wondering when the first terror attack with drones will happen.



These fuckers are taking notes.


I’m wondering when Skynet becomes self-aware.





https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/first-military-ai-controlled-flight-ever

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/02/the-us-air-force-successfully-tested-this-ai-controlled-jet-fighter/


Pilot's Associate (another DARPA initiative) was in the 80s. Seems every decade or so, "AI" comes up as the new hotness only to be relegated to niche applications due to it's inherent limitations.
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When my wife buys wine at Aldi's is she helping pay for a Type 212 diesel submarine?
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When my wife buys wine at Aldi's is she helping pay for a Type 212 diesel submarine?


Looks like not directly - since WWII it goes into general federal coffers w/o a specific earmarking (based on what I read in the article 4xGM300m linked).

from 6 percent alcohol by volume €136/hl (= €1.02/0.75 l).
The revenue from the sparkling wine tax amounted to 449 million euros in 2013. In 2019, sales of 320.8 million liters of sparkling wine generated tax revenue of 377 million euros. [10] According to Art. 106 Para. 1 No. 2 GG , the federal government is entitled to the revenues .



So about a $1/bottle tax on sparkling wine.  Article says it’s levied on production and does not mention a refund for export.  So if she is big into Deutsche bubbly, it’s mainly helping to pay for their labour subsidies, welfare, and immigrant subsidies. Same as the biggest portion of our budget.
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That was great. Too bad it is about 20 minutes too long for most of the smooth brains.
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He is spot on! . If the west would just step up to the plate Ukraine would have a chance at a break thru like that.
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Post 9,000 for me. A theory on how UA will break ruZZia’s back in the south. Long thread but with the 5-10 minutes it will take to read.

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This kind of stuff alone should depress the hell out of Russians up and down the line. A huge chunk of the competent and effective world is against them doing this kind of work pro bono.






He is spot on! . If the west would just step up to the plate Ukraine would have a chance at a break thru like that.


If we re-normalize for the dysfunction of our bureaucracy today, I’m surprised how they’ve come along as much as they have honestly.

Hell, I think this is swift anymore. Freakin sad, but…compared to offering a ride rather than ammunition a year ago…
Link Posted: 3/12/2023 12:31:57 AM EDT
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That was great. Too bad it is about 20 minutes too long for most of the smooth brains.
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I've been pleasantly surprised by how much coverage Simon has done on the war. His writers generally do good research for videos.
Link Posted: 3/12/2023 12:55:46 AM EDT
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“Russia has decided to convene a meeting of the UN Security Council to discuss "Russophobia," which, according to the Kremlin, does not allow it to successfully complete its military campaign against Ukraine

Ukraine's Permanent Representative to the United Nations, Sergiy Kyslytsya, reacted to this on Twitter.
“Russian fascist federation has done a hatchet job on Goebbels surpassing his anti-decency standard when requested a meeting of Security Council on 14 March to focus on "Russophobia as a factor hindering the search for a long-term & sustainable solution to the Ukrainian crisis," Kyslytsya wrote.”

What a clown world, kudos to the Ukrainian reps for not egging this guys car every single day.
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