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Posted: 4/4/2022 7:28:04 AM EDT
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Big thanks to DaGoose for consolidating The Files so far:

Originally Posted By DaGoose:
Originally Posted By DaGoose:
Posting all the links again.


THE TWITTER FILES - PART ONE
TWITTER AND THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP STORY


Recounting the internal drama at Twitter surrounding the decision to block access to a New York Post exposé on Hunter Biden in October, 2020.

Key revelations: Twitter blocked the story on the basis of its “hacked materials” policy, but executives internally knew the decision was problematic. “Can we truthfully claim that this is part of the policy?” is how comms official Brandon Borrman put it. Also: when a Twitter contractor polls members of Congress about the decision, they hear Democratic members want more moderation, not less, and “the First Amendment isn’t absolute.”


THE TWITTER FILES - PART ONE SUPPLEMENTAL
THE “EXITING” OF TWITTER DEPUTY GENERAL COUNSEL JIM BAKER


A second round of Twitter Files releases was delayed, as new addition Bari Weiss discovers former FBI General Counsel and Twitter Deputy General Counsel Jim Baker was reviewing the first batches of Twitter Files documents, whose delivery to reporters had slowed.


THE TWITTER FILES - PART TWO
TWITTER’S SECRET BLACKLISTS.


Bari Weiss gives a long-awaited answer to the question, “Was Twitter shadow-banning people?” It did, only the company calls it “visibility filtering.” Twitter also had a separate, higher council called SIP-PES that decided cases for high-visibility, controversial accounts.

Key revelations: Twitter had a huge toolbox for controlling the visibility of any user, including a “Search Blacklist” (for Dan Bongino), a “Trends Blacklist” for Stanford’s Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, and a “Do Not Amplify” setting for conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Weiss quotes a Twitter employee: “Think about visibility filtering as being a way for us to suppress what people see to different levels. It’s a very powerful tool.” With help from @abigailshrier, @shellenbergermd, @nelliebowles, and @isaacgrafstein.


THE TWITTER FILES - PART THREE
THE REMOVAL OF DONALD TRUMP - October 2020 - January 6th


First in a three-part series looking at how Twitter came to the decision to suspend Donald Trump. The idea behind the series is to show how all of Twitter’s “visibility filtering” tools were on display and deployed after January 6th, 2021.

Key Revelations: Trust and Safety chief Yoel Roth not only met regularly with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, but with the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI). Also, Twitter was aggressively applying “visibility filtering” tools to Trump well before the election.


THE TWITTER FILES - PART FOUR
THE REMOVAL OF DONALD TRUMP - January 7


This thread by Michael Shellenberger looks at the key day after the J6 riots and before Trump would ultimately be banned from Twitter on January 8th, showing how Twitter internally reconfigured its rules to make a Trump ban fit their policies.

Key revelations: at least one Twitter employee worried about a “slippery slope” in which “an online platform CEO with a global presence… can gatekeep speech for the entire world,” only to be shot down. Also, chief censor Roth argues for a ban on congressman Matt Gaetz even though it “doesn’t quite fit anywhere (duh),” and Twitter changed its “public interest policy” to clear a path for Trump’s removal.


THE TWITTER FILES - PART FIVE
THE REMOVAL OF TRUMP FROM TWITTER.


As angry as many inside Twitter were with Donald Trump after the January 6th Capitol riots, staffers struggled to suspend his account, saying things like, “I think we’d have a hard time saying this is incitement.” As documented by Weiss, they found a way to pull the trigger anyway.

Key revelations: there were dissenters in the company (“Maybe because I am from China,” said one employee, “I deeply understand how censorship can destroy the public conversation”), but are overruled by senior executives like Vijaya Gadde and Roth, who noted many on Twitter’s staff were citing the “Banality of Evil,” and comparing those who favored sticking to a strict legalistic interpretation of Twitter’s rules — i.e. keep Trump, who had “no violation” — to “Nazis following orders.”


THE TWITTER FILES - PART SIX
THE FBI SUBSIDIARY


Twitter’s contact with the FBI was “constant and pervasive,” as FBI personnel, mainly in the San Francisco field office, regularly sent lists of “reports” to Twitter, often about Americans with low follower counts making joke tweets. Tweeters on both the left and the right were affected.

Key revelations: A senior Twitter executive reports, “FBI was adamant no impediments to sharing” classified information exist. Twitter also agreed to “bounce” content on the recommendations of a wide array of governmental and quasi-governmental actors, from the FBI to the Homeland Security agency CISA to Stanford’s Election Integrity Project to state governments. The company one day received so many moderation requests from the FBI, an executive congratulated staffers at the end for completing the “monumental undertaking.”


THE TWITTER FILES - PART SEVEN
THE FBI AND TTHE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP


The Twitter Files story increases its focus on the company’s relationship to federal law enforcement and intelligence, and shows intense communication between the FBI and Twitter just before the release of the Post’s Hunter Biden story.

Key Revelations: San Francisco agent Elvis Chan “sends 10 documents to Twitter’s then-Head of Site Integrity, Yoel Roth, through Teleporter, a one-way communications channel from the FBI to Twitter,” the evening before the release of the Post story. Also, Baker in an email explains Twitter was compensated for “processing requests” by the FBI, saying “I am happy to report we have collected $3,415,323 since October 2019!”


THE TWITTER FILES - PART EIGHT
TWITTER AND PENTAGON'S COVERT ONLINE PSYOP CAMPAIGN


RELATED ARTICLE
https://theintercept.com/2022/12/20/twitter-dod-us-military-accounts
Lee Fang takes a fascinating detour, looking at how Twitter for years approved and supported Pentagon-backed covert operations. Noting the company explicitly testified to Congress that it didn’t allow such behavior, the platform nonetheless was a clear partner in state-backed programs involving fake accounts.

Key revelations: after the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) sent over a list of 52 Arab-language accounts “we use to amplify certain messages,” Twitter agreed to “whitelist” them. Ultimately the program would be outed in the Washington Post in 2022 — two years after Twitter and other platforms stopped assisting — but contrary to what came out in those reports, Twitter knew about and/or assisted in these programs for at least three years, from 2017-2020.


THE TWITTER FILES
TWITTER AND "OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES"


https://taibbi.substack.com/p/twitter-files-thread-the-spies-who
The Christmas Eve thread (I should have waited a few days to publish!) further details how the channels of communication between the federal government and Twitter operated, and reveals that Twitter directly or indirectly received lists of flagged content from “Other Government Agencies,” i.e. the CIA.

Key revelations: CIA officials attended at least one conference with Twitter in the summer of 2020, and companies like Twitter and Facebook received “OGA briefings,” at their regular “industry” meetings held in conjunction with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. The FBI and the “Foreign Influence Task Force” met regularly “not just with Twitter, but with Yahoo!, Twitch, Cloudfare, LinkedIn, even Wikimedia.”


THE TWITTER FILES: HOW TWITTER RIGGED THE COVID DEBATE

David Zweig drills down into how Twitter throttled down information about COVID that was true but perhaps inconvenient for public officials, “discrediting doctors and other experts who disagreed.”

Key Revelations: Zweig found memos from Twitter personnel who’d liaised with Biden administration officials who were “very angry” that Twitter had not deplatformed more accounts. White House officials for instance wanted attention on reporter Alex Berenson. Zweig also found “countless” instances of Twitter banning or labeling “misleading” accounts that were true or merely controversial. A Rhode Island physician named Andrew Bostom, for instance, was suspended for, among other things, referring to the results of a peer-reviewed study on mRNA vaccines.


THE TWITTER FILES: HOW TWITTER LET THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY IN


THE TWITTER FILES: TWITTER AND THE FBI “BELLY BUTTON”

These two threads focus respectively on the second half of 2017, and a period stretching roughly from summer of 2020 through the present. The first describes how Twitter fell under pressure from Congress and the media to produce “material” showing a conspiracy of Russian accounts on their platform, and the second shows how Twitter tried to resist fulfilling moderation requests for the State Department, but ultimately agreed to let State and other agencies send requests through the FBI, which agent Chan calls “the belly button of the USG.” Revelations: at the close of 2017, Twitter makes a key internal decision. Outwardly, the company would claim independence and promise that content would only be removed at “our sole discretion.” The internal guidance says, in writing, that Twitter will remove accounts “identified by the U.S. intelligence community” as “identified by the U.S.. intelligence community as a state-sponsored entity conducting cyber-operations.”

The second thread shows how Twitter took in requests from everyone — Treasury, HHS, NSA, FBI, DHS, etc. — and also received personal requests from politicians like Democratic congressman Adam Schiff, who asked to have journalist Paul Sperry suspended.

THE TWITTER FILES #14 - THE RUSSIAGATE LIES


THE TWITTER FILES #15 - MOVE OVER, JAYSON BLAIR: TWITTER FILES EXPOSE NEXT GREAT MEDIA FRAUD


THE TWITTER FILES #16 - COMIC INTERLUDE: A MEDIA EXPERIMENT


THE TWITTER FILES #17 - NEW KNOWLEDGE, THE GLOBAL ENGAGEMENT CENTER, AND STATE-SPONSORED BLACKLISTS


THE TWITTER FILES #18 - STATEMENT TO CONGRESS THE CENSORSHIP-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX


THE TWITTER FILES #19 - THE GREAT COVID-19 LIE MACHINE STANFORD, THE VIRALITY PROJECT, AND THE CENSORSHIP OF “TRUE STORIES”



THE TWITTER FILES - SUPPLEMENTAL


TWITTER FILES: SUPPLEMENTAL
MORE ADAM SCHIFF BAN REQUESTS, AND "DEAMPLIFICATION"




TWITTER FILES:  HOW THE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY LOBBIED SOCIAL MEDIA TO SHAPE CONTENT AROUND VACCINE POLICY




RELATED:

DAVE RUBIN ON SHADOWBANNING


RUBY FILES:  AN INSIDE LOOK AT THE TYPE OF CONTENT TWITTER FLAGGED FOR REVIEW

https://rubymediagroup.com/twitter-artificial-intelligence/

UNDER WHITE HOUSE PRESSURE, FACEBOOK CENSORED ACCURATE COVID VACCINE INFORMATION

https://michaelshellenberger.substack.com/p/under-white-house-pressure-facebook

FROM THE TWITTER FILES: PFIZER BOARD MEMBER SCOTT GOTTLIEB SECRETLY PRESSED TWITTER TO HIDE POSTS CHALLENGING HIS COMPANY'S MASSIVELY PROFITABLE COVID JABS

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/from-the-twitter-files-pfizer-board

HOW THE FBI HACKED TWITTER
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-the-fbi-hacked-twitter-lee-smith

MISSOURI AG TALKING ABOUT COLLUSION BETWEEN BIDEN WH AND SOCIAL MEDIA


DHS backed censorship program


US Political Misinfo Twitter Detection AI List


Former Twitter employee shares exclusive details with me on AI, Access to DMs, and more.


Whistleblower Report
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22186683/twitter-whistleblower-disclosure.pdf

CDC Thread on secret Twitter partner portal


Feds at Facebook


Feds at Google






GLOSSARY OF “TWITTER FILES” TERMS
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Now he wants to buy it!

"Since making my investment I now realize the company will neither thrive nor serve this societal imperative in its current form. Twitter needs to be transformed as a private company," Musk said in a letter to Twitter Chairman Bret Taylor.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-offers-buy-twitter-101906337.html

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Re-filed:

Elon Musk refiled the disclosure of his stake in Twitter Inc. to classify himself as an active investor, making the change after taking a seat on the social media company’s board.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/musk-refiles-twitter-disclosure-show-221958940.html

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Tesla CEO Elon Musk is putting his enormous sums of money where his tweets are at.

It was disclosed on Monday that the somewhat unpredictable Musk took a 9.2% stake in Twitter. The stake — valued at close to $3 billion as of Twitter's closing price on Friday — is defined as a passive one.
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While Musk's stake in Twitter is passive, it could turn on a dime, said Tesla bull and Elon watcher Dan Ives of Wedbush.

"We would expect this passive stake as just the start of broader conversations with the Twitter board/management that could ultimately lead to an active stake and a potential more aggressive ownership role of Twitter," Ives said.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-just-took-a-92-stake-in-twitter-what-may-happen-next-111313363.html



https://www.marketwatch.com/story/twitter-stock-rockets-after-elon-musk-takes-stake-valued-at-more-than-3-billion-11649070782
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 4:20:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BLKVooDoo:
And to think.... This all came about because someone banned BabylonBee's twitter....


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"The albatross was good luck until some idiot killed it."
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 4:24:29 PM EDT
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Damn. Are Musk and Apple about to go to war? (Tweet is a poll)

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Tech companies are fixing to get their shit pushed in by consumers.

People on both sides of the isle don’t like being spied on or lied too.
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 4:27:33 PM EDT
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Google is also making demands, and so is the Federal Government. The FCC is looking to shut down Musk, woth the FEC,SEC, FBI and USSS possibly getting a FISA warrant to raid Musk.

Also the Feds and EU won't allow a Musk phone on the market.  They will say it's a Chinese Communist phone like Haweii and ZTE, and ban it from US and EU networks.
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 4:31:12 PM EDT
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Google is also making demands, and so is the Federal Government. The FCC is looking to shut down Musk, woth the FEC,SEC, FBI and USSS possibly getting a FISA warrant to raid Musk.
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Hmmm, sounds like a fire for effect is in order. Secondary explosions being noted..
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Originally Posted By Ayada:

Microsoft poured in billions and couldn't get even a sliver of market share, and they sponsored the shit out of companies to make apps for their phones.

The biggest challenge is not making the phone, or even the operating system. The two biggest issues are getting people to buy the thing, and getting companies to support it.

I don't think he would have issues with getting an initial surge of hype purchases. What I do doubt is finding companies that are willing to port their apps to yet another ecosystem that's unproven to their eyes, especially when we see that companies will disregard profit to make a statement (i.e., pull advertising from Twitter because of feelings).
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Ironically, Apple has documented history of how this could work.. They did it with operating systems, computer processors, and phone applications.

For Apple, the key was always the software development tools which made the technical aspects manageable enough to motivate developers. The companies PR efforts built a subtle hype machine and everyone follows. Musk could do the same.

Making small changes or improvements to existing things is easy. Making something genuinely better is very, very hard. If there is going to be some type of paradigm shift with a phone capable device that redraws technology, it wouldn't surprise me to see Musk involved.
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Originally Posted By Ayada:

Microsoft poured in billions and couldn't get even a sliver of market share, and they sponsored the shit out of companies to make apps for their phones.

The biggest challenge is not making the phone, or even the operating system. The two biggest issues are getting people to buy the thing, and getting companies to support it.

I don't think he would have issues with getting an initial surge of hype purchases. What I do doubt is finding companies that are willing to port their apps to yet another ecosystem that's unproven to their eyes, especially when we see that companies will disregard profit to make a statement (i.e., pull advertising from Twitter because of feelings).
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Originally Posted By Geralt55:
In reality he would not need to clean out Apple and Google to "win", he would only need to have enough market to sustain itself and to remove their bullying power, preventing them from dropping twitter.

And if there's a person I would try to try a smartphone-startup and go after GM/Ford/Volkswagen Google/Apple and beat them to a market they weren't servicing the right way, it's probably Musk.

Microsoft poured in billions and couldn't get even a sliver of market share, and they sponsored the shit out of companies to make apps for their phones.

The biggest challenge is not making the phone, or even the operating system. The two biggest issues are getting people to buy the thing, and getting companies to support it.

I don't think he would have issues with getting an initial surge of hype purchases. What I do doubt is finding companies that are willing to port their apps to yet another ecosystem that's unproven to their eyes, especially when we see that companies will disregard profit to make a statement (i.e., pull advertising from Twitter because of feelings).


I think the best route would be to throw monetary support into existing projects like GrapheneOS. With Graphene, anything already on android works just fine because it IS android. One of the big hurdles with Graphene is that no OEM phone manufacturers sell phones with Graphene installed because Google forces them all to agree to an "anti-fragmentation agreement". But Musk could make and distribute a phone with Graphene out of the box. Graphene wants to sell devices but have had multiple deals with OEMs fall through. Seems like a great opportunity for Musk.
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Google is also making demands, and so is the Federal Government. The FCC is looking to shut down Musk, woth the FEC,SEC, FBI and USSS possibly getting a FISA warrant to raid Musk.

Also the Feds and EU won't allow a Musk phone on the market.  They will say it's a Chinese Communist phone like Haweii and ZTE, and ban it from US and EU networks.
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Originally Posted By GBTX01:









This is getting interesting.



Google is also making demands, and so is the Federal Government. The FCC is looking to shut down Musk, woth the FEC,SEC, FBI and USSS possibly getting a FISA warrant to raid Musk.

Also the Feds and EU won't allow a Musk phone on the market.  They will say it's a Chinese Communist phone like Haweii and ZTE, and ban it from US and EU networks.


Since so many other companies are in the same info/news/political electronic/phone business, I can damn well guarantee that the second the feds try to shut him down, he will be trying to fast track the lawsuit to the USSC as a free speech violation and with the makeup of the court, he WILL win and win big.
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 4:38:54 PM EDT
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Since so many other companies are in the same info/news/political electronic/phone business, I can damn well guarantee that the second the feds try to shut him down, he will be trying to fast track the lawsuit to the USSC as a free speech violation and with the makeup of the court, he WILL win and win big.
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Originally Posted By Thunder900:
Originally Posted By GBTX01:









This is getting interesting.



Google is also making demands, and so is the Federal Government. The FCC is looking to shut down Musk, woth the FEC,SEC, FBI and USSS possibly getting a FISA warrant to raid Musk.

Also the Feds and EU won't allow a Musk phone on the market.  They will say it's a Chinese Communist phone like Haweii and ZTE, and ban it from US and EU networks.


Since so many other companies are in the same info/news/political electronic/phone business, I can damn well guarantee that the second the feds try to shut him down, he will be trying to fast track the lawsuit to the USSC as a free speech violation and with the makeup of the court, he WILL win and win big.


The lefties would then have to run on court-packing, their alt-left woke army would love it, but it would be enlightening for the normies and moderates.
With a newly free and fully operational twitter, they wouldn't be able to squish the dissent so easily anymore.

People are calling shenanigans Re: Arizona, and accounts are still up.
The leftie censorship gravitational pull is not what it was, not at all.
And it's going to be harder for a Zuckerbook to maintain censorship on that platform, if they can leave and go to another one where they CAN talk about what they want.

It puts some degree of pressure on the tech oligarchs and challenges the way things were done
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 4:39:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ayada:

Microsoft poured in billions and couldn't get even a sliver of market share, and they sponsored the shit out of companies to make apps for their phones.

The biggest challenge is not making the phone, or even the operating system. The two biggest issues are getting people to buy the thing, and getting companies to support it.

I don't think he would have issues with getting an initial surge of hype purchases. What I do doubt is finding companies that are willing to port their apps to yet another ecosystem that's unproven to their eyes, especially when we see that companies will disregard profit to make a statement (i.e., pull advertising from Twitter because of feelings).
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Originally Posted By Geralt55:
In reality he would not need to clean out Apple and Google to "win", he would only need to have enough market to sustain itself and to remove their bullying power, preventing them from dropping twitter.

And if there's a person I would try to try a smartphone-startup and go after GM/Ford/Volkswagen Google/Apple and beat them to a market they weren't servicing the right way, it's probably Musk.

Microsoft poured in billions and couldn't get even a sliver of market share, and they sponsored the shit out of companies to make apps for their phones.

The biggest challenge is not making the phone, or even the operating system. The two biggest issues are getting people to buy the thing, and getting companies to support it.

I don't think he would have issues with getting an initial surge of hype purchases. What I do doubt is finding companies that are willing to port their apps to yet another ecosystem that's unproven to their eyes, especially when we see that companies will disregard profit to make a statement (i.e., pull advertising from Twitter because of feelings).


Musk has fans. Microsoft has hostages.
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 4:39:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Darcy:
I’ve been ready to ditch apple for YEARS because of their leftist thumb on the scales, and growing privacy concerns. But Google and Microsoft are FAR worse, and the only currently viable alternative.

I would jump ship to musk phone instantly, even in beta. I already put my money where my mouth is by paying a premium for Starlink despite having cheaper faster internet available.

Unfortunately I can’t just get a flip phone…

Currently researching cutting out iCloud while maintaining similar functionality- any tips from successful escapees?
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Synology has a bunch of cloud functionality. You run it on your own cloud after you purchase one of their NAS systems.
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Synology has a bunch of cloud functionality. You run it on your own cloud after you purchase one of their NAS systems.
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Originally Posted By Darcy:
I’ve been ready to ditch apple for YEARS because of their leftist thumb on the scales, and growing privacy concerns. But Google and Microsoft are FAR worse, and the only currently viable alternative.

I would jump ship to musk phone instantly, even in beta. I already put my money where my mouth is by paying a premium for Starlink despite having cheaper faster internet available.

Unfortunately I can’t just get a flip phone…

Currently researching cutting out iCloud while maintaining similar functionality- any tips from successful escapees?


Synology has a bunch of cloud functionality. You run it on your own cloud after you purchase one of their NAS systems.


This. I host my own services on my own servers in my basement.
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 4:42:05 PM EDT
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Musk has fans. Microsoft has hostages.
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Originally Posted By Ayada:
Originally Posted By Geralt55:
In reality he would not need to clean out Apple and Google to "win", he would only need to have enough market to sustain itself and to remove their bullying power, preventing them from dropping twitter.

And if there's a person I would try to try a smartphone-startup and go after GM/Ford/Volkswagen Google/Apple and beat them to a market they weren't servicing the right way, it's probably Musk.

Microsoft poured in billions and couldn't get even a sliver of market share, and they sponsored the shit out of companies to make apps for their phones.

The biggest challenge is not making the phone, or even the operating system. The two biggest issues are getting people to buy the thing, and getting companies to support it.

I don't think he would have issues with getting an initial surge of hype purchases. What I do doubt is finding companies that are willing to port their apps to yet another ecosystem that's unproven to their eyes, especially when we see that companies will disregard profit to make a statement (i.e., pull advertising from Twitter because of feelings).


Musk has fans. Microsoft has hostages.


Musk has a Joe-Rogan-style "audience"
I really do believe a lot of them would gleefully chuck a BMW/Mercedes/Acura/Lexus for a Tesla  Samsung-Google/iphone device to have a Tesla one with less surveillance.

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I think the best route would be to throw monetary support into existing projects like GrapheneOS. With Graphene, anything already on android works just fine because it IS android. One of the big hurdles with Graphene is that no OEM phone manufacturers sell phones with Graphene installed because Google forces them all to agree to an "anti-fragmentation agreement". But Musk could make and distribute a phone with Graphene out of the box. Graphene wants to sell devices but have had multiple deals with OEMs fall through. Seems like a great opportunity for Musk.
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I would be very interested in a GrapheneOS phone.
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Originally Posted By giantpune:

Maybe better ask your grandkids to google it for you.  
The 30% is not a secret.  Never has been.  You (or your grandkids) dont have to look hard if they really want to see what the past discussions were about.
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:


This constitutes "tons"?  A Bloomberg article from 2021 and a NYT article from 2020?

There is some discussion of boosted posts for social media from last month and macrumors thread from May on the topic at hand.

Maybe better ask your grandkids to google it for you.  
The 30% is not a secret.  Never has been.  You (or your grandkids) dont have to look hard if they really want to see what the past discussions were about.


Out of curiosity, how old do you think I am?
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 4:55:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By giantpune:

Maybe better ask your grandkids to google it for you.  
The 30% is not a secret.  Never has been.  You (or your grandkids) dont have to look hard if they really want to see what the past discussions were about.
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Some people just don't give much of a shit about technology, phones etc.. and would not care if it all went away.

Especially Apple, its a liberal/Berkley CA/Birkenstock wearing set of hippie devices, no thanks.

Lighten up, Enjoy life, technology is not the end all / be all.
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 4:59:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:


Out of curiosity, how old do you think I am?
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:


Out of curiosity, how old do you think I am?

Based on your ability to search the internet, nursing home age.

Originally Posted By LurkerII:


Some people just don't give much of a shit about technology, phones etc.. and would not care if it all went away.

Especially Apple, its a liberal/Berkley CA/Birkenstock wearing set of hippie devices, no thanks.

Lighten up, Enjoy life, technology is not the end all / be all.

Lighten up?  I put the smiley face in those posts busting his balls so he knows I'm just joshing him around a bit.  Everybody here is just having a good ol' time.
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 5:08:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Geralt55:


Musk has a Joe-Rogan-style "audience"
I really do believe a lot of them would gleefully chuck a BMW/Mercedes/Acura/Lexus for a Tesla  Samsung-Google/iphone device to have a Tesla one with less surveillance.

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Originally Posted By Geralt55:


Musk has a Joe-Rogan-style "audience"
I really do believe a lot of them would gleefully chuck a BMW/Mercedes/Acura/Lexus for a Tesla  Samsung-Google/iphone device to have a Tesla one with less surveillance.


once again. this does not matter

A phone that no one can use 99% of the most popular apps isn't going to float.

Everyone going "weLl aPpLe dId iT" no. Apple revolutionized the industry(so did Goggle). Unless Elon has some magical shit he can pull out of his ass to get the every day joe to want the product, people aren't going to buy a product that they cant use.

Originally Posted By LurkerII:


Some people just don't give much of a shit about technology, phones etc.. and would not care if it all went away.

Especially Apple, its a liberal/Berkley CA/Birkenstock wearing set of hippie devices, no thanks.

Lighten up, Enjoy life, technology is not the end all / be all.

yeah...... no.

If 2% of the generations that are going to live longer than say....10 years.....felt this way I would be shocked. Not to mention the economic impact it would have.
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:


Out of curiosity, how old do you think I am?
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This constitutes "tons"?  A Bloomberg article from 2021 and a NYT article from 2020?

There is some discussion of boosted posts for social media from last month and macrumors thread from May on the topic at hand.

Maybe better ask your grandkids to google it for you.  
The 30% is not a secret.  Never has been.  You (or your grandkids) dont have to look hard if they really want to see what the past discussions were about.


Out of curiosity, how old do you think I am?

87
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Originally Posted By Geralt55:


Musk has a Joe-Rogan-style "audience"
I really do believe a lot of them would gleefully chuck a BMW/Mercedes/Acura/Lexus for a Tesla  Samsung-Google/iphone device to have a Tesla one with less surveillance.

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Originally Posted By SBR_Slut:
Originally Posted By Ayada:
Originally Posted By Geralt55:
In reality he would not need to clean out Apple and Google to "win", he would only need to have enough market to sustain itself and to remove their bullying power, preventing them from dropping twitter.

And if there's a person I would try to try a smartphone-startup and go after GM/Ford/Volkswagen Google/Apple and beat them to a market they weren't servicing the right way, it's probably Musk.

Microsoft poured in billions and couldn't get even a sliver of market share, and they sponsored the shit out of companies to make apps for their phones.

The biggest challenge is not making the phone, or even the operating system. The two biggest issues are getting people to buy the thing, and getting companies to support it.

I don't think he would have issues with getting an initial surge of hype purchases. What I do doubt is finding companies that are willing to port their apps to yet another ecosystem that's unproven to their eyes, especially when we see that companies will disregard profit to make a statement (i.e., pull advertising from Twitter because of feelings).


Musk has fans. Microsoft has hostages.


Musk has a Joe-Rogan-style "audience"
I really do believe a lot of them would gleefully chuck a BMW/Mercedes/Acura/Lexus for a Tesla  Samsung-Google/iphone device to have a Tesla one with less surveillance.



Exactly.

How many Microsoft stans are there? Rhetorical question - approximately none.  
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Originally Posted By Dawgfan28:

once again. this does not matter

A phone that no one can use 99% of the most popular apps isn't going to float.

Everyone going "weLl aPpLe dId iT" no. Apple revolutionized the industry(so did Goggle). Unless Elon has some magical shit he can pull out of his ass to get the every day joe to want the product, people aren't going to buy a product that they cant use.


yeah...... no.

If 2% of the generations that are going to live longer than say....10 years.....felt this way I would be shocked. Not to mention the economic impact it would have.
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I mean.....it wouldn't be the first time that Musk pulled off what others said wasn't possible.
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Originally Posted By Ayada:

Microsoft poured in billions and couldn't get even a sliver of market share, and they sponsored the shit out of companies to make apps for their phones.

The biggest challenge is not making the phone, or even the operating system. The two biggest issues are getting people to buy the thing, and getting companies to support it.

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Microsoft has always had problems marketing their products to consumers.  Windows 95 was pretty much the only good marketing move they had.  I remember when Microsoft started pushing their Surface tablet back in 2012.  The commercials were nothing more than people dancing around with a table.  Then they ran through various handheld devices running a neutered version of windows.  The only reason people tried using them because they integrated with other Microsoft product.  But since they were neutered they didn't implement everything and that caused a lot of 3rd party apps to not work or required creating a Windows version and a Windows CE version, double the effort but no new users since everyone was already using it on their computers.  

Their core products work well and were adopted by businesses.  That is the only reason they are utilized the way they are.  They have no understanding of how to go after consumers and make a consumer driven product, they create business products that some people might use at home.
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Party time

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Exactly.

How many Microsoft stans are there? Rhetorical question - approximately none.  
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Originally Posted By Geralt55:
Originally Posted By SBR_Slut:
Originally Posted By Ayada:
Originally Posted By Geralt55:
In reality he would not need to clean out Apple and Google to "win", he would only need to have enough market to sustain itself and to remove their bullying power, preventing them from dropping twitter.

And if there's a person I would try to try a smartphone-startup and go after GM/Ford/Volkswagen Google/Apple and beat them to a market they weren't servicing the right way, it's probably Musk.

Microsoft poured in billions and couldn't get even a sliver of market share, and they sponsored the shit out of companies to make apps for their phones.

The biggest challenge is not making the phone, or even the operating system. The two biggest issues are getting people to buy the thing, and getting companies to support it.

I don't think he would have issues with getting an initial surge of hype purchases. What I do doubt is finding companies that are willing to port their apps to yet another ecosystem that's unproven to their eyes, especially when we see that companies will disregard profit to make a statement (i.e., pull advertising from Twitter because of feelings).


Musk has fans. Microsoft has hostages.


Musk has a Joe-Rogan-style "audience"
I really do believe a lot of them would gleefully chuck a BMW/Mercedes/Acura/Lexus for a Tesla  Samsung-Google/iphone device to have a Tesla one with less surveillance.



Exactly.

How many Microsoft stans are there? Rhetorical question - approximately none.  


Bruh, I've been thinking about how genius the Gold/Grey/Blue checkmark system is.

Giving the .gov types the official distinction of their own color scheme, takes away the "Well akshully people can pretend to be official .gov accounts and give out unofficial information" complaint.
Giving the .biz types the official distinction of their own color scheme, takes away the, "Whoa someone pretended to be Pepsi and made these announcements that really fucked things up" complaint

Gee, would be funny to watch the WEF-frens, the gold and grey checkmarks circle-jerking eachother on their announcements and posts right?
What about watching the greybars agree with a greybar tweet?
Totally not intentional.

And of course, giving celebrities and journalists (The old Upper-Caste of Twitter's woke clubhouse) the same blue-check status as the normies, is fuckin intentional.
"No you aren't special, your speech is the same as everyone else's, shut up lmao"
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 5:27:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ayada:

Microsoft poured in billions and couldn't get even a sliver of market share, and they sponsored the shit out of companies to make apps for their phones.

The biggest challenge is not making the phone, or even the operating system. The two biggest issues are getting people to buy the thing, and getting companies to support it.

I don't think he would have issues with getting an initial surge of hype purchases. What I do doubt is finding companies that are willing to port their apps to yet another ecosystem that's unproven to their eyes, especially when we see that companies will disregard profit to make a statement (i.e., pull advertising from Twitter because of feelings).
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Seems to me you need an operating system that can just download and run apps as they currently exist.  No app modification necessary.  All things handled by the OS and user friendly. Pull the rug out from under them
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If elon does that, and its not just some bullshit clickbait, but it really has real information with supporting evidence in it, I'll go ahead and prepay for a twitter gold membership for the year.
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 5:41:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By giantpune:

Based on your ability to search the internet, nursing home age.


Lighten up?  I put the smiley face in those posts busting his balls so he knows I'm just joshing him around a bit.  Everybody here is just having a good ol' time.
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:


Out of curiosity, how old do you think I am?

Based on your ability to search the internet, nursing home age.

Originally Posted By LurkerII:


Some people just don't give much of a shit about technology, phones etc.. and would not care if it all went away.

Especially Apple, its a liberal/Berkley CA/Birkenstock wearing set of hippie devices, no thanks.

Lighten up, Enjoy life, technology is not the end all / be all.

Lighten up?  I put the smiley face in those posts busting his balls so he knows I'm just joshing him around a bit.  Everybody here is just having a good ol' time.


You stated common knowledge and I replied in the IT world it is common knowledge.  Go ask a waitress what Apple charges developers and see if it really is common knowledge like you claim. It's not.

As for my age, I made my way into paid IT work, way back in 2002 as a 1099 at the ripe old age 14. Well, that was when I was "legally" allowed to work.

I'm not going to claim omniscience, but I'd argue I'm pretty well versed in the general changes of the industry over the last 20 years, including little tidbits like what Apple charges developers.

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I mean.....it wouldn't be the first time that Musk pulled off what others said wasn't possible.
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I mean.....it wouldn't be the first time that Musk pulled off what others said wasn't possible.

apples to bananas comparison

Originally Posted By victorgonzales:
Seems to me you need an operating system that can just download and run apps as they currently exist.  No app modification necessary.  All things handled by the OS and user friendly. Pull the rug out from under them

And companies are going to spend the money to develop said app because why?


the OS isn't the issue. The issue is getting 100s if not thousands of companies to build an app for Elon's OS.

New phone that doesn't spy on you sounds all cool till the only shit you can use on it is twitter and truth social. GD might love the idea but the average person wants to check the email, do their banking, tip tok shit, shop, use travel apps etc. Why are they going to spend the money to develop said app?
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 5:50:07 PM EDT
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So Tim Cook is wanting to be the guy in the superbowl commercial that gets a sledge thrown at his image on a screen?
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I want the names of those involved from Vajayjay all the way downwards to the janitor.
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So Tim Cook is wanting to be the guy in the superbowl commercial that gets a sledge thrown at his image on a screen?
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Lol, exactly.
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Originally Posted By Geralt55:


The lefties would then have to run on court-packing, their alt-left woke army would love it, but it would be enlightening for the normies and moderates.
With a newly free and fully operational twitter, they wouldn't be able to squish the dissent so easily anymore.

People are calling shenanigans Re: Arizona, and accounts are still up.
The leftie censorship gravitational pull is not what it was, not at all.
And it's going to be harder for a Zuckerbook to maintain censorship on that platform, if they can leave and go to another one where they CAN talk about what they want.

It puts some degree of pressure on the tech oligarchs and challenges the way things were done
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The only real power the left has ever had was the ability to sit on chokepoints and either determine what the mass narrative was, or quietly gatekeep* people out of the fields they control.

But it is a doozy of a power. It is why even today so many people think that America is rabidly leftist.

* canceling isn't even remotely new. It is just that in the last 5-10 years it has been out in the open instead of euphemized "oh, he just doesn't have any talent for this" stories like it had been for so many previous decades.
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:


You stated common knowledge and I replied in the IT world it is common knowledge.  Go ask a waitress what Apple charges developers and see if it really is common knowledge like you claim. It's not.

As for my age, I made my way into paid IT work, way back in 2002 as a 1099 at the ripe old age 14. Well, that was when I was "legally" allowed to work.

I'm not going to claim omniscience, but I'd argue I'm pretty well versed in the general changes of the industry over the last 20 years, including little tidbits like what Apple charges developers.

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Originally Posted By giantpune:
Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:


Out of curiosity, how old do you think I am?

Based on your ability to search the internet, nursing home age.

Originally Posted By LurkerII:


Some people just don't give much of a shit about technology, phones etc.. and would not care if it all went away.

Especially Apple, its a liberal/Berkley CA/Birkenstock wearing set of hippie devices, no thanks.

Lighten up, Enjoy life, technology is not the end all / be all.

Lighten up?  I put the smiley face in those posts busting his balls so he knows I'm just joshing him around a bit.  Everybody here is just having a good ol' time.


You stated common knowledge and I replied in the IT world it is common knowledge.  Go ask a waitress what Apple charges developers and see if it really is common knowledge like you claim. It's not.

As for my age, I made my way into paid IT work, way back in 2002 as a 1099 at the ripe old age 14. Well, that was when I was "legally" allowed to work.

I'm not going to claim omniscience, but I'd argue I'm pretty well versed in the general changes of the industry over the last 20 years, including little tidbits like what Apple charges developers.



Just to remind you, you're not allowed to argue with the JournalistsTM who are activists with very little background in some of what they cover.
They're The ExpertsTM.

(Lived ExperienceTM only counts for topics involving special-victim-prefix status, after that experience is meaningless you bigot)
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I hope this is a big collection of blatant government collision with twitter to silence dissent.  Undeniable and large scale.   We need this evidence to really turn the tide of censorship.  It has to be enough for moderate people to be like wtf.
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Originally Posted By J_Von_Random:

The only real power the left has ever had was the ability to sit on chokepoints and either determine what the mass narrative was, or quietly gatekeep* people out of the fields they control.

But it is a doozy of a power. It is why even today so many people think that America is rabidly leftist.

* canceling isn't even remotely new. It is just that in the last 5-10 years it has been out in the open instead of euphemized "oh, he just doesn't have any talent for this" stories like it had been for so many previous decades.
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Originally Posted By Geralt55:


The lefties would then have to run on court-packing, their alt-left woke army would love it, but it would be enlightening for the normies and moderates.
With a newly free and fully operational twitter, they wouldn't be able to squish the dissent so easily anymore.

People are calling shenanigans Re: Arizona, and accounts are still up.
The leftie censorship gravitational pull is not what it was, not at all.
And it's going to be harder for a Zuckerbook to maintain censorship on that platform, if they can leave and go to another one where they CAN talk about what they want.

It puts some degree of pressure on the tech oligarchs and challenges the way things were done

The only real power the left has ever had was the ability to sit on chokepoints and either determine what the mass narrative was, or quietly gatekeep* people out of the fields they control.

But it is a doozy of a power. It is why even today so many people think that America is rabidly leftist.

* canceling isn't even remotely new. It is just that in the last 5-10 years it has been out in the open instead of euphemized "oh, he just doesn't have any talent for this" stories like it had been for so many previous decades.


This reminds me, I gotta get to reading those links I bookmarked from the post before

I couldn't agree more - thanks to consolidation of communications tech, a lot of the world's information, searches, and tweets/posts flowed through a few small sphincters in Northern CA.
The woke social media of San Fran joined the old media of NYC, and they dragged the overton window left whether people liked it or not.

But nature abhors a vacuum, artificial positions cannot stand.
I do wonder if the snap back to reality will be quicker, now that their choice PsyOp platform/Forward Air Control bird has been taken.
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Originally Posted By Dawgfan28:

apples to bananas comparison


And companies are going to spend the money to develop said app because why?


the OS isn't the issue. The issue is getting 100s if not thousands of companies to build an app for Elon's OS.

New phone that doesn't spy on you sounds all cool till the only shit you can use on it is twitter and truth social. GD might love the idea but the average person wants to check the email, do their banking, tip tok shit, shop, use travel apps etc. Why are they going to spend the money to develop said app?
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You missed my point.  If an operating system can one touch download and run an Android designed app with no extra steps it's not an issue.  People don't like extra steps.
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@waterglass
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when's my account going to be unlocked? Has he given an estimate for that yet?
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Originally Posted By Geralt55:


Bruh, I've been thinking about how genius the Gold/Grey/Blue checkmark system is.

Giving the .gov types the official distinction of their own color scheme, takes away the "Well akshully people can pretend to be official .gov accounts and give out unofficial information" complaint.
Giving the .biz types the official distinction of their own color scheme, takes away the, "Whoa someone pretended to be Pepsi and made these announcements that really fucked things up" complaint

Gee, would be funny to watch the WEF-frens, the gold and grey checkmarks circle-jerking eachother on their announcements and posts right?
What about watching the greybars agree with a greybar tweet?
Totally not intentional.

And of course, giving celebrities and journalists (The old Upper-Caste of Twitter's woke clubhouse) the same blue-check status as the normies, is fuckin intentional.
"No you aren't special, your speech is the same as everyone else's, shut up lmao"
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Originally Posted By SBR_Slut:
Originally Posted By Ayada:
Originally Posted By Geralt55:
In reality he would not need to clean out Apple and Google to "win", he would only need to have enough market to sustain itself and to remove their bullying power, preventing them from dropping twitter.

And if there's a person I would try to try a smartphone-startup and go after GM/Ford/Volkswagen Google/Apple and beat them to a market they weren't servicing the right way, it's probably Musk.

Microsoft poured in billions and couldn't get even a sliver of market share, and they sponsored the shit out of companies to make apps for their phones.

The biggest challenge is not making the phone, or even the operating system. The two biggest issues are getting people to buy the thing, and getting companies to support it.

I don't think he would have issues with getting an initial surge of hype purchases. What I do doubt is finding companies that are willing to port their apps to yet another ecosystem that's unproven to their eyes, especially when we see that companies will disregard profit to make a statement (i.e., pull advertising from Twitter because of feelings).


Musk has fans. Microsoft has hostages.


Musk has a Joe-Rogan-style "audience"
I really do believe a lot of them would gleefully chuck a BMW/Mercedes/Acura/Lexus for a Tesla  Samsung-Google/iphone device to have a Tesla one with less surveillance.



Exactly.

How many Microsoft stans are there? Rhetorical question - approximately none.  


Bruh, I've been thinking about how genius the Gold/Grey/Blue checkmark system is.

Giving the .gov types the official distinction of their own color scheme, takes away the "Well akshully people can pretend to be official .gov accounts and give out unofficial information" complaint.
Giving the .biz types the official distinction of their own color scheme, takes away the, "Whoa someone pretended to be Pepsi and made these announcements that really fucked things up" complaint

Gee, would be funny to watch the WEF-frens, the gold and grey checkmarks circle-jerking eachother on their announcements and posts right?
What about watching the greybars agree with a greybar tweet?
Totally not intentional.

And of course, giving celebrities and journalists (The old Upper-Caste of Twitter's woke clubhouse) the same blue-check status as the normies, is fuckin intentional.
"No you aren't special, your speech is the same as everyone else's, shut up lmao"


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Ngl tho, it was hilarious that that fake pharmacorpo account was about to tank the share value of the actual pharmacorp by a handful of percent
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New user signups are at an all-time high, averaging over 2 million a day for the seven days to Nov. 16, the slides also showed. In a follow-up tweet, Musk said he sees a path to Twitter having more than 1 billion monthly users in 12 to 18 months.


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/musk-twitter-slides-recruiting-following-070638643.html
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This is when every single "patriot" out there should be sending $8 to the cause, but we won't, because the right sucks at organizing and eats our own.

Memes don't win at the end of the day, action and money win.
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Good call. I'm down for

ETA: oops... just as soon as it's available for Android
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Wow!!!!!  Straight from the White House. “We’re monitoring this, watching closely”
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Originally Posted By SWIRE:

Microsoft has always had problems marketing their products to consumers.  Windows 95 was pretty much the only good marketing move they had.  I remember when Microsoft started pushing their Surface tablet back in 2012.  The commercials were nothing more than people dancing around with a table.  Then they ran through various handheld devices running a neutered version of windows.  The only reason people tried using them because they integrated with other Microsoft product.  But since they were neutered they didn't implement everything and that caused a lot of 3rd party apps to not work or required creating a Windows version and a Windows CE version, double the effort but no new users since everyone was already using it on their computers.  

Their core products work well and were adopted by businesses.  That is the only reason they are utilized the way they are.  They have no understanding of how to go after consumers and make a consumer driven product, they create business products that some people might use at home.
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I don't think getting people excited for the phone would be an issue, Elon has marketing pretty much nailed. Yes, Microsoft had a lot of issues in getting the public excited for their phones, but all things considering the phones and the software wasn't all that bad for the time. It's downfall was the lack of anything third party on the things for the majority of it's lifespan, especially given how quickly the Apple and Android ecosystems were expanding at the time. No one wanted to be stuck on a phone that couldn't do the things the other phones were doing. This was the vicious cycle that ended up killing the product. People wouldn't buy a phone that they didn't know existed, and those that did didn't want it because of the lack of support, and businesses didn't want to invest the money into an ecosystem that wouldn't make them money because no one was using it.

Elon, or anyone for that matter, faces a similar predicament. The third party developers are just as important in a phone these days as the operating system behind it. It's why I said I have no doubts that Elon could make a great phone, but that's only part of the challenge. A "smart" phone without any app support is a very hard ask today, and when those same companies that you'd want to invest into your new app ecosystem are the same companies that are shooting themselves in the foot by removing their marketing off of twitter, what I see is a product that's starting at a disadvantage. Hence, my comparison with Microsoft. Arguably, Microsoft had the best chance to create a foothold into the market. They had the money to spend, the connections in companies, and the developer resources needed for those companies to push an app out.

If there was a chance for it to succeed, it's either going to need to be a big hit on launch, or the acknowledgement of it being a long game. Microsoft ended up having a less than stellar launch, and cut their losses before it could ever really recover.
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Looks like twitter got rid of that stupid "join twitter" pop up for us cheap skates. Money well spent for that alone. Thanks Elon
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Originally Posted By Geralt55:


Bruh, I've been thinking about how genius the Gold/Grey/Blue checkmark system is.

Giving the .gov types the official distinction of their own color scheme, takes away the "Well akshully people can pretend to be official .gov accounts and give out unofficial information" complaint.
Giving the .biz types the official distinction of their own color scheme, takes away the, "Whoa someone pretended to be Pepsi and made these announcements that really fucked things up" complaint

Gee, would be funny to watch the WEF-frens, the gold and grey checkmarks circle-jerking eachother on their announcements and posts right?
What about watching the greybars agree with a greybar tweet?
Totally not intentional.

And of course, giving celebrities and journalists (The old Upper-Caste of Twitter's woke clubhouse) the same blue-check status as the normies, is fuckin intentional.
"No you aren't special, your speech is the same as everyone else's, shut up lmao"
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I might buy that for $8
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 7:28:09 PM EDT
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Is she actually just reading from her notes?
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 7:31:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ambush151:
Looks like twitter got rid of that stupid "join twitter" pop up for us cheap skates. Money well spent for that alone. Thanks Elon
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I hope that's the case because I absolutely refuse to browse Twitter on anything without a browser that specifically blocks that stupid popup.
Link Posted: 11/28/2022 7:37:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sierra-def:
So Tim Cook is wanting to be the guy in the superbowl commercial that gets a sledge thrown at his image on a screen?
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I understood that reference.jpg
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