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This is now the active "shit News links, thanks to BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH Kyiv Post Ukrainian News UKRInform EUROMAIDEN PRESS New Voice of Ukraine Kyiv Independent Ukraine World InterFax Ukraine UATV Ukrainian Journal Official Website of the President of Ukraine Ukrainian Ministry of Defense Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often. View Quote Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise. New news link c/o berettaguy: Ukrainian Pravda https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/ Stop fake, anti - disinformation site: https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/ |
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Like a clown car, but it explodes.
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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I am Government Man, come from the government.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Like a clown car, but it explodes.
View Quote Love the two existing wrecks at the edge of the minefield before the latest moron drives right in. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Like a clown car, but it explodes.
View Quote Wish the video were longer, be interesting to see how many died. 2-3 ran before collapsing. Also noticed 3 guys at the top center of the screen run from cover/concealment right after the explosion. |
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How come every time there is a shooting, they want to take away the guns from the people who didn't do it?
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Originally Posted By Dominion21: Work on your reading comprehension. The detonations occurred during the day (in full site of the tourist beach, and when all / many of the pilots would be on site - enhancing the effect). This wasn’t a suicide mission; the time-delayed charges were set in darkness, hours before. Maybe the team was already back on safe ground when things went up. It’s more valuable for the Orcs to believe they are now being targeted at unlimited range anywhere in Crimea, by commando teams. To Ivan: no where is safe for you now. Best to return to Russia alive, while you still can. View Quote Reality comprehension. You don’t leave demo charges lying around waiting to go off, in an active ASP. This isn’t the movies with electronic detonators with bright red count down timers all synchronised. |
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Originally Posted By governmentman: Love the two existing wrecks at the edge of the minefield before the latest moron drives right in. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By governmentman: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Like a clown car, but it explodes.
Love the two existing wrecks at the edge of the minefield before the latest moron drives right in. Balls to the wall. Hit that fuckin gas |
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Originally Posted By DonKey153: Sooner or later they'll clear a path... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DonKey153: Originally Posted By sentionaut: Balls to the wall. Hit that fuckin gas Sooner or later they'll clear a path... Or build a wall. Or maybe not, this one made it a good 30 yards further than the other two. Russian mine clearing, continue throwing vehicles into mine field until mines are gone. |
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Originally Posted By Glock63: Hopefully so. I dont particularly consider that reparations however. Reparations require a knowledgement of wrongdoing and a willingness to make amends. Not a chance of that with Russia. They will simply call the seizing of their overseas assets as theft by nato, the EU, etc. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Glock63: Originally Posted By SFguy: I'm just a dummy from Utah so I need to ask. Could the funds that we froze/seized from Russia and the oligarchs be used for reparations? I honestly don't know. Hopefully so. I dont particularly consider that reparations however. Reparations require a knowledgement of wrongdoing and a willingness to make amends. Not a chance of that with Russia. They will simply call the seizing of their overseas assets as theft by nato, the EU, etc. Perhaps, but does it matter? Taking money from Russia to give to Ukraine for reparations is the same regardless of the method chosen. And, in this instance, Russia has no say in the matter whatsoever. |
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Geolocated, big railway hub. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Earth doesn't have homeless. No poverty, no prejudice, no crime. It’s all disappeared when we rewrote the dictionary. -Musante (Babylon 5)
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It must seem a bit ironic to russians that their air defense keeps getting clobbered from the air. If I was a russian I would stay the hell away from those things.
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Originally Posted By Glock63: Hopefully so. I dont particularly consider that reparations however. ... View Quote Right. Plus, the $$ value of those wouldn't really go very far at all in the big picture. Ideally, you'd have a change of government with full awareness of the issue and wanting to repudiate what happened and acknowledge the issue. An example of that is how WWI ended, which was illuminating. - Military leaders told the political leadership to make peace; they knew it was collapsing (Hindenburg/Ludendorff, "H+L") - Pol/mil leadership forced the Emperor out as a scapegoat - They tried to continue in power, but the people knew they were culpable so drove them out, too. - Subsequent civilian leadership made the peace. In the mean time, and long after the armistice 11/11/18, the Allied Powers kept the blockade in place and the country effectively "sanctioned" until a binding peace was signed. This drove the Germans insane, but it forced a somewhat equitable peace agreement with reparations. The break-down of that peace agreement later was because of allied weakness and German weirdness, but not inherent defects of the agreement. Any true "reparations" would really only come about from a) a change of government and b) a need to lift crippling sanctions. And I think the odds are that will transpire, slowly. But it's not a guarantee - just an educated estimate of probabilities when factoring a whole host of moving variables. Which can change. |
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Originally Posted By stone-age: It must seem a bit ironic to russians that their air defense keeps getting clobbered from the air. If I was a russian I would stay the hell away from those things. View Quote Russian stronk air defense actually attracts enemy missiles and renders them harmless with minor secondaries and only moderate loss of life. |
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Originally Posted By Dracster: Serbia abandoned the Russian Federation military base and will train the army according to NATO standards It is reported that after the Russian ambassador announced Russia's plans to deploy a military base in Serbia, Belgrade intensified cooperation with NATO. Thus, the "South" base the main center for training of the Serbian army according to NATO standards, as well as training of Serbian special units for peacekeeping operations will appear in Serbia instead of the Russian one. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-08-15_13-08-13_jpg-2490391.JPG View Quote SABATON - Last Dying Breath (Official Lyric Video) Serbs are such good fighters the Germans erected a memorial to them. |
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Coyote with 40 people crammed into a minivan gets into a chase with DPS, Paco over estimates his driving abilities and *whmmo!* the Astrovan of Immigration becomes a Pinata of Pain, hurling broken bodies like so many tasty pieces of cheap candy...
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Originally Posted By Prime: The SSO of Ukraine foiled an enemy attempt to break through in one of the areas where the tasks were carried out. When the Russian occupiers formed a strike-reconnaissance group, the soldiers of the Special Operations Forces already advanced to intercept the enemy.
130 battalion TrO adjustment of fire and interaction with artillery. Dozens of vehicles and many goat-faced creatures were destroyed
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaNpPpJXkAADo7C?format=jpg&name=large View Quote Dang. Are Finnish mortarmen 6'8" or is that UA guy standing next to the mortar 4'6"? |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Like a clown car, but it explodes.
View Quote Even so, some of them were badly injured, judging by them falling down on the ground and not getting back up. |
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Originally Posted By Dracster: Serbia abandoned the Russian Federation military base and will train the army according to NATO standards It is reported that after the Russian ambassador announced Russia's plans to deploy a military base in Serbia, Belgrade intensified cooperation with NATO. Thus, the "South" base the main center for training of the Serbian army according to NATO standards, as well as training of Serbian special units for peacekeeping operations will appear in Serbia instead of the Russian one. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48680/photo_2022-08-15_13-08-13_jpg-2490391.JPG View Quote That's a freaking twist. |
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Russian air launched cruise missiles inbound.
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Originally Posted By Jack67: Right. Plus, the $$ value of those wouldn't really go very far at all in the big picture. Ideally, you'd have a change of government with full awareness of the issue and wanting to repudiate what happened and acknowledge the issue. An example of that is how WWI ended, which was illuminating. - Military leaders told the political leadership to make peace; they knew it was collapsing (Hindenburg/Ludendorff, "H+L") - Pol/mil leadership forced the Emperor out as a scapegoat - They tried to continue in power, but the people knew they were culpable so drove them out, too. - Subsequent civilian leadership made the peace. In the mean time, and long after the armistice 11/11/18, the Allied Powers kept the blockade in place and the country effectively "sanctioned" until a binding peace was signed. This drove the Germans insane, but it forced a somewhat equitable peace agreement with reparations. The break-down of that peace agreement later was because of allied weakness and German weirdness, but not inherent defects of the agreement. Any true "reparations" would really only come about from a) a change of government and b) a need to lift crippling sanctions. And I think the odds are that will transpire, slowly. But it's not a guarantee - just an educated estimate of probabilities when factoring a whole host of moving variables. Which can change. View Quote You don't buy that the burden of the reparations forced the Weimar Republic to print money and generate the runaway inflation, aiding to the rise of the Nazis? |
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Urban combat and beyond: Ukraine recruits get UK training
A BRITISH ARMY BASE, England — A few weeks ago, Serhiy was a business analyst at an IT company. Zakhar was a civil engineer. Now they are soldiers, training to liberate Ukraine from Russia’s invasion — but doing it more than 1,000 miles away in Britain. They are among several hundred Ukrainian recruits pounding through an intense form of infantry training at an army base in southeast England. One batch of the 10,000 Ukraine soldiers that the British military has pledged to train within 120 days is spending several weeks learning skills including marksmanship, battlefield first aid and — crucially for their country’s future — urban warfare. As the Ukrainians practice house-clearing amid the rattle of gunfire and pall from smoke grenades on a mock-townscape where British soldiers once trained for operations in Northern Ireland, they think about driving Russian troops from the streets of their own cities. “The most important part is urban training, because it’s the most dangerous combat, in cities,” said Serhiy, who like the other Ukrainians did not want his full named used because of security concerns. “The British instructors have a lot of experience, from Iraq, Afghanistan. We can adapt all this knowledge to the Ukrainian situation and use it to liberate our country from Russian invasion.” British trainers are putting the Ukrainian troops through a condensed version of the British Army’s infantry training, covering weapons handling, first aid, patrol tactics and the law of conflict. The aim is to turn raw recruits into battle-ready soldiers in a matter of weeks. The first batch arrived last month and have already been sent back to replenish depleted Ukrainian units. “We are running a basic infantry course, which takes Ukrainian recruits and teaches them to shoot well, to move and communicate well within any tactical environment, and to medicate well,” said Maj. Craig Hutton, a Scots Guards officer helping to oversee the training. Hutton says many of the Ukrainian troops have little military experience but “they are so motivated. They have a fantastic will to learn, and they just want to practice, practice and practice more.” More than 1,000 U.K. personnel are involved in the training mission, taking place at four bases around the U.K. Other countries are also sending trainers, including Canada, the Netherlands, New Zealand and the Nordic nations. Britain is sending the Ukrainians home with new uniforms, body armor, helmets and other gear, part of 2.3 billion pounds’ ($2.8 billion) worth of U.K. military aid to the country that also includes anti-tank missiles and sophisticated rocket-launch systems. |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
Originally Posted By vahog: You don't buy that the burden of the reparations forced the Weimar Republic to print money and generate the runaway inflation, aiding to the rise of the Nazis? View Quote Good point. No, I no longer buy it. As a political excuse - it sounds good. But in fact, no. I no longer buy it. The % of GDP the payments represented was not an undue burden. Also, the Dawes plan of 1924 restructured the debt payments into an insignificant burden. The financial mismanagement of the Weimar politicians was real, but the reparations were not the economic cause. The German economy was already completely shattered from the war and sanctions/embargo. That was the real cause. Economists and cliometricians who have dug into the numbers and finance have shown this pretty convincingly. I bought the myth when I was younger until I studied some real scholarship on it. The "dolchstosslegende" ("stab-in-the-back") mythology was the cause. The ultimate root of that problem was not letting the Germans know they were beaten - e.g., having an Allied victory parade down the Kurfurstendamm in Berlin. Foch of France and Pershing of the US were the only war-leaders who saw this problem coming and argued the armistice needed proof they lost on the field. Political leaders and many other military leaders were not far-sighted enough and left the germ of the problem to fester and grow. This is one of the reasons I *pray* the west backs Ukraine to the max and breaks the Putin/FSB oligarchy. If they break it, something healthy *might* grow out of it instead of leaving the same dysfunction in place and the roots of a new "stab-in-the-back" myth that festers. |
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Originally Posted By Prime: Urban combat and beyond: Ukraine recruits get UK training https://www.stripes.com/incoming/7cbqfg-8-15-22-ukraine-troops-train-uk/alternates/LANDSCAPE_910/8-15-22%20ukraine%20troops%20train%20uk A BRITISH ARMY BASE, England — A few weeks ago, Serhiy was a business analyst at an IT company. Zakhar was a civil engineer. Now they are soldiers, training to liberate Ukraine from Russia’s invasion — but doing it more than 1,000 miles away in Britain. They are among several hundred Ukrainian recruits pounding through an intense form of infantry training at an army base in southeast England. One batch of the 10,000 Ukraine soldiers that the British military has pledged to train within 120 days is spending several weeks learning skills including marksmanship, battlefield first aid and — crucially for their country’s future — urban warfare. As the Ukrainians practice house-clearing amid the rattle of gunfire and pall from smoke grenades on a mock-townscape where British soldiers once trained for operations in Northern Ireland, they think about driving Russian troops from the streets of their own cities. “The most important part is urban training, because it’s the most dangerous combat, in cities,” said Serhiy, who like the other Ukrainians did not want his full named used because of security concerns. “The British instructors have a lot of experience, from Iraq, Afghanistan. We can adapt all this knowledge to the Ukrainian situation and use it to liberate our country from Russian invasion.” British trainers are putting the Ukrainian troops through a condensed version of the British Army’s infantry training, covering weapons handling, first aid, patrol tactics and the law of conflict. The aim is to turn raw recruits into battle-ready soldiers in a matter of weeks. The first batch arrived last month and have already been sent back to replenish depleted Ukrainian units. “We are running a basic infantry course, which takes Ukrainian recruits and teaches them to shoot well, to move and communicate well within any tactical environment, and to medicate well,” said Maj. Craig Hutton, a Scots Guards officer helping to oversee the training. Hutton says many of the Ukrainian troops have little military experience but “they are so motivated. They have a fantastic will to learn, and they just want to practice, practice and practice more.” More than 1,000 U.K. personnel are involved in the training mission, taking place at four bases around the U.K. Other countries are also sending trainers, including Canada, the Netherlands, New Zealand and the Nordic nations. Britain is sending the Ukrainians home with new uniforms, body armor, helmets and other gear, part of 2.3 billion pounds’ ($2.8 billion) worth of U.K. military aid to the country that also includes anti-tank missiles and sophisticated rocket-launch systems. View Quote Why the heck aren't we doing something like this yet? We should have the capacity to train large numbers of Ukrainians. |
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I stand with Ukraine. Fuck Putin! And fuck Russia!
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Originally Posted By vahog: You don't buy that the burden of the reparations forced the Weimar Republic to print money and generate the runaway inflation, aiding to the rise of the Nazis? View Quote It forced an "equitable peace agreement" Russia will be a tricky one. A nuclear power surrendering and agreeing to sanctions is... somewhat unlikely. It will be very delicate if it gets to that point. |
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Why the heck aren't we doing something like this yet? We should have the capacity to train large numbers of Ukrainians. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By Prime: Urban combat and beyond: Ukraine recruits get UK training https://www.stripes.com/incoming/7cbqfg-8-15-22-ukraine-troops-train-uk/alternates/LANDSCAPE_910/8-15-22%20ukraine%20troops%20train%20uk A BRITISH ARMY BASE, England — A few weeks ago, Serhiy was a business analyst at an IT company. Zakhar was a civil engineer. Now they are soldiers, training to liberate Ukraine from Russia’s invasion — but doing it more than 1,000 miles away in Britain. They are among several hundred Ukrainian recruits pounding through an intense form of infantry training at an army base in southeast England. One batch of the 10,000 Ukraine soldiers that the British military has pledged to train within 120 days is spending several weeks learning skills including marksmanship, battlefield first aid and — crucially for their country’s future — urban warfare. As the Ukrainians practice house-clearing amid the rattle of gunfire and pall from smoke grenades on a mock-townscape where British soldiers once trained for operations in Northern Ireland, they think about driving Russian troops from the streets of their own cities. “The most important part is urban training, because it’s the most dangerous combat, in cities,” said Serhiy, who like the other Ukrainians did not want his full named used because of security concerns. “The British instructors have a lot of experience, from Iraq, Afghanistan. We can adapt all this knowledge to the Ukrainian situation and use it to liberate our country from Russian invasion.” British trainers are putting the Ukrainian troops through a condensed version of the British Army’s infantry training, covering weapons handling, first aid, patrol tactics and the law of conflict. The aim is to turn raw recruits into battle-ready soldiers in a matter of weeks. The first batch arrived last month and have already been sent back to replenish depleted Ukrainian units. “We are running a basic infantry course, which takes Ukrainian recruits and teaches them to shoot well, to move and communicate well within any tactical environment, and to medicate well,” said Maj. Craig Hutton, a Scots Guards officer helping to oversee the training. Hutton says many of the Ukrainian troops have little military experience but “they are so motivated. They have a fantastic will to learn, and they just want to practice, practice and practice more.” More than 1,000 U.K. personnel are involved in the training mission, taking place at four bases around the U.K. Other countries are also sending trainers, including Canada, the Netherlands, New Zealand and the Nordic nations. Britain is sending the Ukrainians home with new uniforms, body armor, helmets and other gear, part of 2.3 billion pounds’ ($2.8 billion) worth of U.K. military aid to the country that also includes anti-tank missiles and sophisticated rocket-launch systems. Why the heck aren't we doing something like this yet? We should have the capacity to train large numbers of Ukrainians. It seems to be spread out, the US is training Ukrainians on different artillery systems and etc. in Germany. Other countries are probably taking care of other types of training for different systems and general combat training. https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3020199/dod-leaders-say-training-ukrainian-forces-is-paying-dividends/ In February, the U.S. European Command repositioned Task Force Gator to Grafenwoehr, Germany, where the unit continues to train Ukrainians on a variety of U.S. and NATO weaponry to enable them to defend their nation. Training included antitank weapons systems, doctrine, operations and, importantly, the development of a competent noncommissioned officer corps, he said. He noted that NCOs who have been through the training can take the initiative and make tactical decisions based on their commanders' intentions. "The biggest mistake that the Russians made was giving us eight years to prepare for this [war]," Hopkins mentioned a Ukrainian as stating to a U.S. trainer. Army Lt. Col. Jeremy "Todd" Hopkins, deputy commander of the 53rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team, said the goal of training is to get the Ukrainians back into the fight as quickly as possible and with the proficiency they need to operate weapons platforms that are being rushed into their hands by the U.S. and partner nations. |
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Dang. Are Finnish mortarmen 6'8" or is that UA guy standing next to the mortar 4'6"? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Prime: The SSO of Ukraine foiled an enemy attempt to break through in one of the areas where the tasks were carried out. When the Russian occupiers formed a strike-reconnaissance group, the soldiers of the Special Operations Forces already advanced to intercept the enemy.
130 battalion TrO adjustment of fire and interaction with artillery. Dozens of vehicles and many goat-faced creatures were destroyed
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaNpPpJXkAADo7C?format=jpg&name=large Dang. Are Finnish mortarmen 6'8" or is that UA guy standing next to the mortar 4'6"? Looks like he's kneeling to me. |
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Originally Posted By Prime: Urban combat and beyond: Ukraine recruits get UK training https://www.stripes.com/incoming/7cbqfg-8-15-22-ukraine-troops-train-uk/alternates/LANDSCAPE_910/8-15-22%20ukraine%20troops%20train%20uk A BRITISH ARMY BASE, England — A few weeks ago, Serhiy was a business analyst at an IT company. Zakhar was a civil engineer. Now they are soldiers, training to liberate Ukraine from Russia’s invasion — but doing it more than 1,000 miles away in Britain. They are among several hundred Ukrainian recruits pounding through an intense form of infantry training at an army base in southeast England. One batch of the 10,000 Ukraine soldiers that the British military has pledged to train within 120 days is spending several weeks learning skills including marksmanship, battlefield first aid and — crucially for their country’s future — urban warfare. As the Ukrainians practice house-clearing amid the rattle of gunfire and pall from smoke grenades on a mock-townscape where British soldiers once trained for operations in Northern Ireland, they think about driving Russian troops from the streets of their own cities. “The most important part is urban training, because it’s the most dangerous combat, in cities,” said Serhiy, who like the other Ukrainians did not want his full named used because of security concerns. “The British instructors have a lot of experience, from Iraq, Afghanistan. We can adapt all this knowledge to the Ukrainian situation and use it to liberate our country from Russian invasion.” British trainers are putting the Ukrainian troops through a condensed version of the British Army’s infantry training, covering weapons handling, first aid, patrol tactics and the law of conflict. The aim is to turn raw recruits into battle-ready soldiers in a matter of weeks. The first batch arrived last month and have already been sent back to replenish depleted Ukrainian units. “We are running a basic infantry course, which takes Ukrainian recruits and teaches them to shoot well, to move and communicate well within any tactical environment, and to medicate well,” said Maj. Craig Hutton, a Scots Guards officer helping to oversee the training. Hutton says many of the Ukrainian troops have little military experience but “they are so motivated. They have a fantastic will to learn, and they just want to practice, practice and practice more.” More than 1,000 U.K. personnel are involved in the training mission, taking place at four bases around the U.K. Other countries are also sending trainers, including Canada, the Netherlands, New Zealand and the Nordic nations. Britain is sending the Ukrainians home with new uniforms, body armor, helmets and other gear, part of 2.3 billion pounds’ ($2.8 billion) worth of U.K. military aid to the country that also includes anti-tank missiles and sophisticated rocket-launch systems. View Quote British Army Base training Ukrainians with Chinese AK47's ETA: Also no muzzle brake. Hopefully if they are MAK 90's they followed the UK version of 922r |
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Originally Posted By Prime: Urban combat and beyond: Ukraine recruits get UK training https://www.stripes.com/incoming/7cbqfg-8-15-22-ukraine-troops-train-uk/alternates/LANDSCAPE_910/8-15-22%20ukraine%20troops%20train%20uk A BRITISH ARMY BASE, England — A few weeks ago, Serhiy was a business analyst at an IT company. Zakhar was a civil engineer. Now they are soldiers, training to liberate Ukraine from Russia’s invasion — but doing it more than 1,000 miles away in Britain. They are among several hundred Ukrainian recruits pounding through an intense form of infantry training at an army base in southeast England. One batch of the 10,000 Ukraine soldiers that the British military has pledged to train within 120 days is spending several weeks learning skills including marksmanship, battlefield first aid and — crucially for their country’s future — urban warfare. As the Ukrainians practice house-clearing amid the rattle of gunfire and pall from smoke grenades on a mock-townscape where British soldiers once trained for operations in Northern Ireland, they think about driving Russian troops from the streets of their own cities. “The most important part is urban training, because it’s the most dangerous combat, in cities,” said Serhiy, who like the other Ukrainians did not want his full named used because of security concerns. “The British instructors have a lot of experience, from Iraq, Afghanistan. We can adapt all this knowledge to the Ukrainian situation and use it to liberate our country from Russian invasion.” British trainers are putting the Ukrainian troops through a condensed version of the British Army’s infantry training, covering weapons handling, first aid, patrol tactics and the law of conflict. The aim is to turn raw recruits into battle-ready soldiers in a matter of weeks. The first batch arrived last month and have already been sent back to replenish depleted Ukrainian units. “We are running a basic infantry course, which takes Ukrainian recruits and teaches them to shoot well, to move and communicate well within any tactical environment, and to medicate well,” said Maj. Craig Hutton, a Scots Guards officer helping to oversee the training. Hutton says many of the Ukrainian troops have little military experience but “they are so motivated. They have a fantastic will to learn, and they just want to practice, practice and practice more.” More than 1,000 U.K. personnel are involved in the training mission, taking place at four bases around the U.K. Other countries are also sending trainers, including Canada, the Netherlands, New Zealand and the Nordic nations. Britain is sending the Ukrainians home with new uniforms, body armor, helmets and other gear, part of 2.3 billion pounds’ ($2.8 billion) worth of U.K. military aid to the country that also includes anti-tank missiles and sophisticated rocket-launch systems. View Quote Nice, get em guys. |
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"Juice" is still alive.
US missiles credited as key in Ukraine fight with Russia U.S.-provided anti-radiation missiles have helped take out some of Russia’s most dangerous weapons systems in Ukraine in recent days. But the missiles, only recently confirmed to be in the hands of Ukraine’s air force, are just one part of a complicated strategy to expel Kremlin forces completely from the country, a Ukrainian fighter pilot told The Hill. The pilot, who identifies himself by his call sign of “Juice,” said the country’s air force has recently used the anti-radiation missiles to suppress Russian air defense systems. Their presence in Ukraine was confirmed for the first time Monday by Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Colin Kahl, who said the missiles have been included in several recent lethal aid packages from the United States and make existing Ukrainian capabilities more effective. “It’s a great support for us. Actually, it’s one of the most advanced weapons that we have at the moment,” Juice said, but he stressed that the missiles are only “one part of the complex mission.” Though Department of Defense officials have not identified the specific anti-radiation missiles or the number sent, CNN reported that the munitions are AGM-88 High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missiles, which can hit targets more than 30 miles away. “They are very expensive, and we have a limited number,” Juice said, adding that they have to be selective in their targeting, taking out the Russian army’s “most dangerous” long-range missile systems. The U.S. anti-radiation missiles are thought to be involved in the destruction of at least five Russian anti-aircraft artillery systems, four S-300 long-range surface-to-air missile systems and a Pantsir-S1 missile system, the Kyiv Post reported Monday. |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
Kinda want this to not be conspiratorial nonsense.
The Foreign Ministry reported on the Afghan special forces who joined the Nazis in Ukraine MOSCOW, Aug. 16 — RIA Novosti. Some former Afghan special forces joined Nazi groups in Ukraine, said in an interview with RIA Novosti special representative of the President of Russia for Afghanistan, Director of the Second Department of Asia of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Zamir Kabulov. At the end of March, an informed source told RIA Novosti that the American side is preparing to send to the combat zone on Ukraine former members of the Afghan National Army. https://ria.ru/20220816/svo-1809881197.html |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
ISW assessment for August 15th.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-august-15 |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
Originally Posted By Jack67: Good point. No, I no longer buy it. As a political excuse - it sounds good. But in fact, no. I no longer buy it. The % of GDP the payments represented was not an undue burden. Also, the Dawes plan of 1924 restructured the debt payments into an insignificant burden. The financial mismanagement of the Weimar politicians was real, but the reparations were not the economic cause. The German economy was already completely shattered from the war and sanctions/embargo. That was the real cause. Economists and cliometricians who have dug into the numbers and finance have shown this pretty convincingly. I bought the myth when I was younger until I studied some real scholarship on it. The "dolchstosslegende" ("stab-in-the-back") mythology was the cause. The ultimate root of that problem was not letting the Germans know they were beaten - e.g., having an Allied victory parade down the Kurfurstendamm in Berlin. Foch of France and Pershing of the US were the only war-leaders who saw this problem coming and argued the armistice needed proof they lost on the field. Political leaders and many other military leaders were not far-sighted enough and left the germ of the problem to fester and grow. This is one of the reasons I *pray* the west backs Ukraine to the max and breaks the Putin/FSB oligarchy. If they break it, something healthy *might* grow out of it instead of leaving the same dysfunction in place and the roots of a new "stab-in-the-back" myth that festers. View Quote Okay. I'll go with that. We're not going to get a Ukrainian victory parade into Red Square, though. Maybe we can find a Romanov and seal him in a train. |
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Originally Posted By vahog: Okay. I'll go with that. We're not going to get a Ukrainian victory parade into Red Square, though. Maybe we can find a Romanov and seal him in a train. View Quote There are still some Romanovs: Who Would Be Tsar of Russia Today? | Romanov Family Tree |
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Panhandling on Russian social media, ostensibly for LPR.
https://vk.com/wall-66968724_112096 Assistance to the 7th Brigade of the LPR Army colonelcassad August 15, 11:08 In the order of information support. Assistance to the 7th brigade of the LPR army. Last week, with your effective help, our modest team delivered cargo to artillerymen, tankers and medics of the 7th brigade of the NM LPR.Part of the cargo went to motorized rifle units. We publish reports in the TG channel "Aid Group for the Seventh Brigade" https://t.me/omsbr7. За the past month, the brigade took a powerful fortification in the settlement. Berestyanoe in the DPR. At the end of July, parts of the brigade entered Soledar. Two battalions of Lugansk reservists attached to the brigade, together with the "orchestra" and with the effective support of the brigade artillery, took the Uglegorsk TPP. In general, the brigade is engaged in heavy fighting in the Artyomovsky direction. For these two months we have been fulfilling the requests of three units, but now we have reached the command of the brigade directly. Accordingly, the needs and "Wishlist" have grown significantly. I understand that you and I are not the Ministry of Defense and we will not be able to provide a full supply of the brigade. But still, I’ll write what we’re collecting for this time. 1. A large order from the medical service of the brigade - large and small operating (surgical) sets, electrocardiographs, defibrillators and laryngoscopes.This will take at least half of the collection. All of them would have left, but they had to curtail their appetites, otherwise we would not be able to help the rest. They also have 5 bulletproof vests of class 5A, two plates of the third size for each. Doctors are a piece product, they run along the very front, they must be protected. Broniks are already in reserve for this order. 2. An order from brigade artillery for secure smartphones with artillery and topographic software. Immediately for everyone, from mortars and MLRS to self-propelled howitzers. Several dozen, I won’t say the exact number, because.Chipboard. They also - a batch of weather stations. 3. We were not able to buy another repeater for the gunners of the 1st battery - they were not physically in the country, but it was necessary for their distance. Let's try to close this debt. We also "owe" them several dozen batteries for portable radios. They were not available and the money went to other needs. Should be in stock this week. 4. We "owe" 15 more light anti-fragmentation bulletproof vests to tankers. We, in addition to regular armor from the Permyachka BZK, sent them several cases from the Ratnik 6b45. They promised to test one for resistance to small fragments. They will hang it on a bush and blow up the RGDshka nearby. If the result suits, then we will buy these armors quickly. They again ask for tank overalls and berets. Overalls just "burn", this is a consumable. Ask for headsets. 5. The brigade asks for the "Cowboy" BZK for the mechanics of the armored personnel carrier and infantry fighting vehicle. You need a huge amount, but there are simply no such quantities on the open market. We'll find a dozen or two for sure. We need binoculars, equipment for reconnaissance: knee pads, tactical gloves, unloading, pouches, incl.under the reset of stores. Who has available - you can safely send in kind. 6. From the sent periscopes, the fighters and commanders are completely delighted and ask for more. I don’t even stutter about thermal imagers and quadrics. Separate pain and separate order - reservists. You may have seen a video where the NSH of one of the reservist battalions talks about the hopeless darkness with the supply that they are trying to overcome. The video was recorded in the hope of shouting to the authorities, but humanitarian workers arbitrarily leaked it to the public. Now NSh rakes from the authorities in full. We are in contact with this battalion - this is one of those who took the Uglegorsk TPP. They are really fighting bare-assed. Rotten knapsacks, uniforms 8 sizes larger, mosquitoes, boots of different sizes per fighter and other charms of Luhansk mobilization. They have nothing at all and need everything - from uniforms and shoes to medicine, communications and armor. We will try to help them as much as we can. I can describe the Wishlist and needs endlessly, but for now we will slow down on this. Thanks to everyone who has helped and continues to help |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
The occupiers are taking their families out of Melitopol, mass filtration has begun in the city – Fedorov
"We see the migration of the military from Kherson to Melitopol, but we also see another important migration. After the partisans and the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been actively working this week – servicemen are taking their families out of Melitopol, we can clearly see this. There is, of course, bad news for our locals, because there is a massive filtering – in houses, on the streets. They (the occupiers - ed.) began another mass filtration," Ivan Fedorov said. It is worth noting that earlier a military expert, director of the Center for Military and Legal Studies Alexander Musienko said that the Russian grouping of troops, thanks to the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, was trapped on the right bank of the Kherson region. https://tsn.ua/exclusive/okupanti-vivozyat-svoyi-sim-yi-z-melitopolya-u-misti-pochalasya-masova-filtraciya-fedorov-2134585.html https://t.me/ivan_fedorov_melitopol/407 Effective arithmetic from the Melitopol underground: boom: Minus one railway bridge in the southwest direction from Melitopol equals the complete absence of Russian echelons from the Crimean side. The forces of resistance helped the bridge to "get tired" so much that the Rashtites were unable to restore it for the second day. Moreover, since yesterday in Melitopol and nearby settlements, mass filtering activities have been carried out. But not a single partisan was ever found. Kudos to the Melitopol partisans for their daily heroic successes behind enemy lines. |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
Originally Posted By vahog: Okay. I'll go with that. We're not going to get a Ukrainian victory parade into Red Square, though. Maybe we can find a Romanov and seal him in a train. View Quote LOL, that’s a good one. ETA: for those not familiar, he's joking about how the German's destabilized the Russians by shipping Lenin back to Russia in a "sealed train" in 1917. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealed_train https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/lenin-and-the-russian-spark |
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https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/news/one-more-time-it%E2%80%99s-not-about-nato
One. More. Time. It’s not about NATO Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin had a number of reasons for invading Ukraine in February and starting the largest military conflict in Europe since World War II. Putin sought to portray the pre-invasion crisis that Moscow created with Ukraine as a NATO-Russia dispute, but that framing does not stand up to serious scrutiny. Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin had a number of reasons for invading Ukraine in February and starting the largest military conflict in Europe since World War II. Putin sought to portray the pre-invasion crisis that Moscow created with Ukraine as a NATO-Russia dispute, but that framing does not stand up to serious scrutiny. Putin tried hard. In late 2021, he complained of NATO’s “rising” military threat on Russia’s western borders and demanded legal guarantees for Russia, as if the country with the world’s largest nuclear arsenal and largest army in Europe needed such guarantees. Moscow proposed draft agreements with NATO and the United States that would have ruled out further NATO enlargement and required the Alliance to withdraw all military forces and infrastructure from members that had joined after 1997. Washington and NATO offered to engage on other elements of the draft agreements regarding arms control and risk reduction measures, which could have made a genuine contribution to Europe’s security, including Russia. However, U.S. and NATO officials would not foreswear further enlargement. That became another grievance—along with false claims of neo-Nazis in Kyiv, genocide in Donbas and a Ukrainian pursuit of nuclear arms—that Putin cited in his February 24 explanation of his unjustifiable decision to launch a new invasion of Ukraine. Some Western analysts continue to accept Putin’s argument that lays blame on NATO. The history does not support that argument. In July 1997, NATO invited Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic to begin accession negotiations—but only after first laying the basis for a cooperative relationship with Russia. In May 1997, NATO and Russia concluded the Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation and Security, which set up a permanent body for consultation and coordination. Among other things, the Founding Act reiterated that NATO had “no intention, no plan and no reason” to place nuclear weapons on the territory of new member states. The Act also noted that NATO saw no need for the “permanent stationing of substantial combat forces” on the territory of new members. These statements reflected the Alliance’s effort to make enlargement for Moscow as non-threatening as possible in military terms. From 1997 to early 2014, NATO deployed virtually no combat forces on the territory of its new members. That changed following Russia’s use of military force to seize Crimea and its involvement in the conflict in Donbas in eastern Ukraine in March and April 2014. Even then, NATO moved to deploy, on a rotating basis, multinational battlegroups numbering 1,000-1,600 troops in each of the three Baltic states and Poland—no more than tripwire forces. As for advancing the Alliance to Russia’s borders, five current NATO members border on Russia or the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad (this does not include Finland, which requested membership only in May 2022). Of the five current members, the last to join the Alliance, the three Baltic states, did so in 2004. That was 18 years ago. Putin did not raise a fuss then. In fact, in May 2002, Putin met NATO leaders in Rome and agreed to a joint declaration on deepening and giving a new quality to NATO-Russia relations. In his address at that NATO-Russia summit, Putin expressed no concern about NATO enlargement, even though the Alliance planned a second summit later that year, and the Russian president had to know that NATO then would invite additional countries, quite probably including the Baltic states, to join. Putin has in recent years played up grievances against NATO enlargement in ways that he did not when NATO was enlarging in Russia’s neighborhood. The four countries that joined the Alliance after 2004 are all in the Balkans, quite distant from Russia’s borders. The Russian president reacted calmly to this year’s Finnish and Swedish decisions to apply to join—even though Finland’s addition will more than double the length of Russia’s borders with NATO. As for Moscow’s concerns about Ukraine entering NATO, Russian diplomats and spies surely understood there is little enthusiasm within the Alliance for putting Ukraine on a membership track. With Russian troops occupying parts of Ukraine (even before the February attack), membership would invariably raise the question of allies going to war against Russia. Ironically, Russia had a neutral Ukraine in 2013. A 2010 Ukrainian law enshrined non-bloc status for the country, and then-Ukrainian President Victor Yanukovych showed no desire to join NATO. He was interested in concluding an association agreement with the European Union, but he came under massive pressure from Moscow not to do so in late 2013. He succumbed to that pressure, and the announcement that Kyiv would not sign the completed association agreement triggered protests that same evening that began the Maidan Revolution. Putin’s decision to launch a new attack on Ukraine appears to have several motivations. One is geopolitical, the Kremlin’s desire to have a Russian sphere of influence in the post-Soviet space and its fear that Ukraine was invariably moving away from Moscow. This is a broader question than Ukraine’s relationship with NATO. But nothing has done more than Russian policy and actions since 2014 to push Ukraine away from Russia and toward the West. Russian domestic politics looks like a second key factor. For the Kremlin, a democratic, Western-oriented, economically successful Ukraine poses a nightmare, because that Ukraine would cause Russians to question why they cannot have the same political voice and democratic rights that Ukrainians do. For the Kremlin, regime preservation is job number one. The third factor is Putin himself. Reading his July 2021 essay on Ukraine or his February 24 speech on Russia’s recognition of the so-called “people’s republics” in Donbas makes clear that Putin does not accept the legitimacy of a sovereign and independent Ukrainian state. He regards most of Ukraine as part of historical Russia. On June 9, the Russian president voiced the quiet part aloud, implicitly comparing himself to Peter the Great on “returning” historic Russian lands to Moscow’s control. Putin said, “Apparently, it is also our lot to return [what is Russia’s] and reinforce [the country].” He said not one word about NATO or NATO enlargement. Case closed. |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
What have the Romans ever done for us?
TN, USA
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Originally Posted By stone-age: That's a good point. Maybe we are training them but not talking about it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Why the heck aren't we doing something like this yet? We should have the capacity to train large numbers of Ukrainians. That's a good point. Maybe we are training them but not talking about it? We are. There is a metric fuck ton of training going on in Poland. |
Panem et Circenses
Since it cost a lot to win and even more to lose... |
Originally Posted By Prime: The occupiers are taking their families out of Melitopol, mass filtration has begun in the city – Fedorov "We see the migration of the military from Kherson to Melitopol, but we also see another important migration. After the partisans and the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been actively working this week – servicemen are taking their families out of Melitopol, we can clearly see this. There is, of course, bad news for our locals, because there is a massive filtering – in houses, on the streets. They (the occupiers - ed.) began another mass filtration," Ivan Fedorov said. It is worth noting that earlier a military expert, director of the Center for Military and Legal Studies Alexander Musienko said that the Russian grouping of troops, thanks to the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, was trapped on the right bank of the Kherson region. https://tsn.ua/exclusive/okupanti-vivozyat-svoyi-sim-yi-z-melitopolya-u-misti-pochalasya-masova-filtraciya-fedorov-2134585.html https://t.me/ivan_fedorov_melitopol/407 Effective arithmetic from the Melitopol underground: boom: Minus one railway bridge in the southwest direction from Melitopol equals the complete absence of Russian echelons from the Crimean side. The forces of resistance helped the bridge to "get tired" so much that the Rashtites were unable to restore it for the second day. Moreover, since yesterday in Melitopol and nearby settlements, mass filtering activities have been carried out. But not a single partisan was ever found. Kudos to the Melitopol partisans for their daily heroic successes behind enemy lines. View Quote What exactly is "mass filtration"? What is done? What happens? Also, WTF is this guy?
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Originally Posted By Prime: Panhandling on Russian social media, ostensibly for LPR. https://vk.com/wall-66968724_112096 Assistance to the 7th Brigade of the LPR Army colonelcassad August 15, 11:08 In the order of information support. Assistance to the 7th brigade of the LPR army. Last week, with your effective help, our modest team delivered cargo to artillerymen, tankers and medics of the 7th brigade of the NM LPR.Part of the cargo went to motorized rifle units. We publish reports in the TG channel "Aid Group for the Seventh Brigade" https://t.me/omsbr7. За the past month, the brigade took a powerful fortification in the settlement. Berestyanoe in the DPR. At the end of July, parts of the brigade entered Soledar. Two battalions of Lugansk reservists attached to the brigade, together with the "orchestra" and with the effective support of the brigade artillery, took the Uglegorsk TPP. In general, the brigade is engaged in heavy fighting in the Artyomovsky direction. For these two months we have been fulfilling the requests of three units, but now we have reached the command of the brigade directly. Accordingly, the needs and "Wishlist" have grown significantly. I understand that you and I are not the Ministry of Defense and we will not be able to provide a full supply of the brigade. But still, I’ll write what we’re collecting for this time. 1. A large order from the medical service of the brigade - large and small operating (surgical) sets, electrocardiographs, defibrillators and laryngoscopes.This will take at least half of the collection. All of them would have left, but they had to curtail their appetites, otherwise we would not be able to help the rest. They also have 5 bulletproof vests of class 5A, two plates of the third size for each. Doctors are a piece product, they run along the very front, they must be protected. Broniks are already in reserve for this order. 2. An order from brigade artillery for secure smartphones with artillery and topographic software. Immediately for everyone, from mortars and MLRS to self-propelled howitzers. Several dozen, I won’t say the exact number, because.Chipboard. They also - a batch of weather stations. 3. We were not able to buy another repeater for the gunners of the 1st battery - they were not physically in the country, but it was necessary for their distance. Let's try to close this debt. We also "owe" them several dozen batteries for portable radios. They were not available and the money went to other needs. Should be in stock this week. 4. We "owe" 15 more light anti-fragmentation bulletproof vests to tankers. We, in addition to regular armor from the Permyachka BZK, sent them several cases from the Ratnik 6b45. They promised to test one for resistance to small fragments. They will hang it on a bush and blow up the RGDshka nearby. If the result suits, then we will buy these armors quickly. They again ask for tank overalls and berets. Overalls just "burn", this is a consumable. Ask for headsets. 5. The brigade asks for the "Cowboy" BZK for the mechanics of the armored personnel carrier and infantry fighting vehicle. You need a huge amount, but there are simply no such quantities on the open market. We'll find a dozen or two for sure. We need binoculars, equipment for reconnaissance: knee pads, tactical gloves, unloading, pouches, incl.under the reset of stores. Who has available - you can safely send in kind. 6. From the sent periscopes, the fighters and commanders are completely delighted and ask for more. I don’t even stutter about thermal imagers and quadrics. Separate pain and separate order - reservists. You may have seen a video where the NSH of one of the reservist battalions talks about the hopeless darkness with the supply that they are trying to overcome. The video was recorded in the hope of shouting to the authorities, but humanitarian workers arbitrarily leaked it to the public. Now NSh rakes from the authorities in full. We are in contact with this battalion - this is one of those who took the Uglegorsk TPP. They are really fighting bare-assed. Rotten knapsacks, uniforms 8 sizes larger, mosquitoes, boots of different sizes per fighter and other charms of Luhansk mobilization. They have nothing at all and need everything - from uniforms and shoes to medicine, communications and armor. We will try to help them as much as we can. I can describe the Wishlist and needs endlessly, but for now we will slow down on this. Thanks to everyone who has helped and continues to help View Quote I still can’t comprehend an invading army lacking BASIC items like matching sized boots…. |
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