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Quoted: Cobra Kai! Tell your kid to sweep the leg. View Quote Fear Does Not Exist In This Dojo | JOHNNY LAWRENCE EDIT ???? |
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Quoted: Dang, it’s almost like they’re at a place where they could be taught discipline and an understanding of how to do things the right way instead of immediately kicking them to the curb. View Quote Being new and not understanding is one thing, kids not paying attention, happens all the time, being assholes to each other is every day in class, but Aimless described an outright refusal to let go of a choke when the partner tapped and the instructor had to pry the kid off. If our gym knowingly lets that student continue to train, that is a lawsuit and the end of our gym. We are an MMA gym for reference here, not some bullshit Gracie barra either. It’s unacceptable risk to the gym and our students. |
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I agree with whoever said to give the instructors leeway to handle this.
But seriously, tell your son that if the kid does it again, he needs to do whatever he has to do to get out of the choke. |
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Quoted: Or you could just pay some girls $5 and be done with it. View Quote The Nice Guys - Main Trailer [HD] |
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Quoted: Even the ladies' class looks like more than I could handle View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Is it a crime to accost and tell a minor in Utah that next time you'll choke his ass out and piss on him? That’s because they haven’t seen your mad nunchaku skills. Yet. |
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Quoted: My son's wrestling squad has a "choker." During practice, my son complained to me about getting choked when he was paired up for open mat. I told him next time he's paired up for open mat, get the take down and as you're getting top control drive your forearm into his neck. Hopefully, lesson learned. Probably not the best advice, but I would rather him handle on the mat. View Quote Teach him to spiral ride and don't be shy where his hand goes. If the opponent starts standing hit an elevator. Suck it up and in. The kid will be walking bowlegged after the match and he won't want to wrestle him again. |
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Your child needs to develop a life long rivalry with the other child based on martial arts eventually forming different dojos and enlisting the support of other children decades from now to wage a private war against each other over a series of more and more complicated personal conflicts.
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Quoted: I agree with whoever said to give the instructors leeway to handle this. But seriously, tell your son that if the kid does it again, he needs to do whatever he has to do to get out of the choke. View Quote The problem is, if you are in a fully locked in rear naked choke, your only choice is tapping. The tap has to be respected in order for anyone to feel safe training in the gym. |
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Quoted: Denver banned listing soda and chocolate milk on kid's menus, like happy meals, this week. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: Your child needs to develop a life long rivalry with the other child based on martial arts eventually forming different dojos and enlisting the support of other children decades from now to wage a private war against each other over a series of more and more complicated personal conflicts. View Quote |
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Quoted: The problem is, if you are in a fully locked in rear naked choke, your only choice is tapping. The tap has to be respected in order for anyone to feel safe training in the gym. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I agree with whoever said to give the instructors leeway to handle this. But seriously, tell your son that if the kid does it again, he needs to do whatever he has to do to get out of the choke. The problem is, if you are in a fully locked in rear naked choke, your only choice is tapping. The tap has to be respected in order for anyone to feel safe training in the gym. This little bastard needs to be stopped! |
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Wait, I thought you were about 70 years old and now you are telling us you have little kids?
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Quoted: Your child needs to develop a life long rivalry with the other child based on martial arts eventually forming different dojos and enlisting the support of other children decades from now to wage a private war against each other over a series of more and more complicated personal conflicts. View Quote The only question is which kid is the car salesman. |
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Quoted: Handfull of testicles and crush as hard as you can, if you can gather the where with all to do so. This little bastard needs to be stopped! View Quote You can’t grab someone by the gonads when you’re in a locked in RNC. Their legs are wrapped around the front of your legs ensuring a great nut to lower back seal! |
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Quoted: Wait, I thought you were about 70 years old and now you are telling us you have little kids? View Quote Some of the neighborhood boys were playing Minecraft and I heard my son say "It's okay lots of people think he's my grand dad" I yelled "I can hear you" and they shouted back "Sorry!" Lol |
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Quoted: Some kid wouldn't stop choking my kid even after he tapped out. (These are elementary school age kids) The instructor told the kid to stop and he wouldn't, so the instructor had to break the kid's grip on my kid's neck. My kid was pissed and sat out the rest of the class. When we went to leave he had problems talking and got pretty upset. My other kid said the choker had been told he had "two strikes" before that but didn't know what happened. Choker has also jokingly thrown punches, but pulled short, at my other kid, I guess joking around. We've had good luck in Utah. The kids are nice and the classes are fun. My kids have been thrown around by some pretty big kids but they just laugh. The place in NY seemed like it had more mean kids, I don't, maybe my kids were just younger. I never took classes until I was 14 and never saw anyone have to be stopped choking someone. Maybe this shit happens in little kid classes but I haven't seen it before. I'm thinking about telling them my kids aren't wrestling with this kid anymore. I don't need my little kids getting choked unconscious. :/ My kids are in a ton of activities. I really think the time would be better spent on tennis lol. Oh my kids like karate better and want to keep going. View Quote Inevitably you're going to run into some little prick who has issues and/or shithead parents no matter where you live. I'd talk to the sensei privately about it and explain how it's affected your kid's attitude and desire to participate. Either the choker will get fixed or get booted. Hopefully the sensei does the right thing and doesn't try to blow it off. |
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Quoted: Wait, I thought you were about 70 years old and now you are telling us you have little kids? View Quote Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Seriously though, I have been teaching kids class for 4 years now and we have only dealt with this once, and I’m quite certain the kid we had to ban from the gym had a very bad home life, physical abuse and all.
That shit cannot be tolerated. |
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Maybe the other kid is from NY or NJ?
Anyway, he doesn’t sound like he wants to listen to the instructor, maybe he has behavioral problems and the parents thought judo would teach him some control. |
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Quoted: Being new and not understanding is one thing, kids not paying attention, happens all the time, being assholes to each other is every day in class, but Aimless described an outright refusal to let go of a choke when the partner tapped and the instructor had to pry the kid off. If our gym knowingly lets that student continue to train, that is a lawsuit and the end of our gym. We are an MMA gym for reference here, not some bullshit Gracie barra either. It’s unacceptable risk to the gym and our students. View Quote MMA gym as well, and this is easily handled within the gym by the instructor. If that doesn’t work for whatever reason, then yeah cancel the membership. Canceling membership isn’t the first step. Especially for a kid. The whole liability thing is a poor argument considering there is precedent that you can really get sued no matter what if an injury happens regardless of intent. Competent instructors can address this, overweight guys in GD that can’t fight, cannot. |
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Quoted: Kids ankles and knees are unbreakable, it’s why we don’t teach them heel hooks View Quote Attached File |
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Quoted: In our gym that’s automatic membership termination regardless of age. I would not continue to take your kids to that school if they do not take training partner safety seriously. View Quote This. The kid failing to respond to an instructor command and requiring physical interaction to break the hold is grounds for removal from the class. |
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Quoted: Maybe the other kid is from NY or NJ? Anyway, he doesn’t sound like he wants to listen to the instructor, maybe he has behavioral problems and the parents thought judo would teach him some control. View Quote The Karate Kid Little street in Newark | The Karate kid (1984) Movie Filming Location |
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Quoted: MMA gym as well, and this is easily handled within the gym by the instructor. If that doesn’t work for whatever reason, then yeah cancel the membership. Canceling membership isn’t the first step. Especially for a kid. The whole liability thing is a poor argument considering there is precedent that you can really get sued no matter what if an injury happens regardless of intent. Competent instructors can address this, overweight guys in GD that can’t fight, cannot. View Quote I don’t know man, sure we could probably help the kid, but that’s a fuck load of liability you’re accepting. At the end of the day, our business, our rules. We are very clear on day one, any refusal to let go of a choke or a limb will result in termination of membership. That is told to the parents and to all the kids. Like I said in an earlier post, this has only been an issue one time in my 4 years of coaching kids. |
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Golf will serve your kids 100 times more in life.
When was the last time you asked your friends if they wanted to fight? |
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Quoted: Dang, it’s almost like they’re at a place where they could be taught discipline and an understanding of how to do things the right way instead of immediately kicking them to the curb. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I’m also a purple belt, and I run the kids class at our gym. Any legitimate refusal to let go of a submission when they see or hear their partner tap is automatic membership termination. This has only been an issue one time. If a kid can’t respect a tap they aren’t mature enough to train at our gym and are a huge liability/potential lawsuit. Dang, it’s almost like they’re at a place where they could be taught discipline and an understanding of how to do things the right way instead of immediately kicking them to the curb. As noted in the OP, the kid has two strikes already, this is not immediately kicking to curb, it's a bad position of a serious injury occurs due to a kid who has been told repeatedly it's inappropriate and fails to heed the instructor . |
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Quoted: MMA gym as well, and this is easily handled within the gym by the instructor. If that doesn’t work for whatever reason, then yeah cancel the membership. Canceling membership isn’t the first step. Especially for a kid. The whole liability thing is a poor argument considering there is precedent that you can really get sued no matter what if an injury happens regardless of intent. Competent instructors can address this, overweight guys in GD that can’t fight, cannot. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Being new and not understanding is one thing, kids not paying attention, happens all the time, being assholes to each other is every day in class, but Aimless described an outright refusal to let go of a choke when the partner tapped and the instructor had to pry the kid off. If our gym knowingly lets that student continue to train, that is a lawsuit and the end of our gym. We are an MMA gym for reference here, not some bullshit Gracie barra either. It’s unacceptable risk to the gym and our students. MMA gym as well, and this is easily handled within the gym by the instructor. If that doesn’t work for whatever reason, then yeah cancel the membership. Canceling membership isn’t the first step. Especially for a kid. The whole liability thing is a poor argument considering there is precedent that you can really get sued no matter what if an injury happens regardless of intent. Competent instructors can address this, overweight guys in GD that can’t fight, cannot. ETA: Sorry, I misread that as "can't get sued". |
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Discuss with the instructor teaching ways to break the choke hold. Talk to the owner about the problem.
Escaping The Standing Rear Naked Choke: 3 Proven Techniques |
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Quoted: I don’t know man, sure we could probably help the kid, but that’s a fuck load of liability you’re accepting. At the end of the day, our business, our rules. We are very clear on day one, any refusal to let go of a choke or a limb will result in termination of membership. That is told to the parents and to all the kids. Like I said in an earlier post, this has only been an issue one time in my 4 years of coaching kids. View Quote Put him with bigger and better partners after speaking with him, have him get thrashed by someone slightly older and be taught a lesson, burpees, etc. People (kids included) have poor judgment and make mistakes all the time. At the end of the day, no one got hurt or was really on the verge of serious injury because it’s a kids class and that’s what instructors are there for. This is significantly lighter than say someone ripping a heel hook on a hobbyist and potentially sidelining them and taking food off of their table. And folks looks at that situation as “part of the game”, but a kid, who literally is being taught nonstop in life, can’t be corrected after making bad decisions because of “liability” is odd to me. BJJ may be the only structure that kid has in life. |
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