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Who could do a really good job of making this movie the way it should be made?
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Mech suits or I'm out View Quote Starship Troopers: Traitor Of Mars Official Trailer - In Theaters One Night Only 8/21 I don't want a live action movie at this point. Too easy to screw up. |
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I like it the way it is, one of my favorite sci fi movies of all time.
Better than the book. |
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Quoted: The CG Sequals had mech suits. It was pretty decent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R0yLRoevnA I don't want a live action movie at this point. Too easy to screw up. View Quote |
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I always get the shakes before a remake. View Quote |
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I like it the way it is, one of my favorite sci fi movies of all time. Better than the book. View Quote Seriously, you liked the MOVIE better? The book was far more cerebral. I describe it as a civics lesson disguised as a pretty good action novel. True, the language and many concepts are very dated (it was published in 1959), but the core truths are irrefutable. And of all the books he wrote, ST was responsible for the bulk of mail he received. |
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Give Mel Gibson a shot at it. He's pulled off some good stories in the past. He couldn't do any worse than the original
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"Don't let the door hitcha..." Seriously, you liked the MOVIE better? The book was far more cerebral. I describe it as a civics lesson disguised as a pretty good action novel. True, the language and many concepts are very dated (it was published in 1959), but the core truths are irrefutable. And of all the books he wrote, ST was responsible for the bulk of mail he received. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I like it the way it is, one of my favorite sci fi movies of all time. Better than the book. Seriously, you liked the MOVIE better? The book was far more cerebral. I describe it as a civics lesson disguised as a pretty good action novel. True, the language and many concepts are very dated (it was published in 1959), but the core truths are irrefutable. And of all the books he wrote, ST was responsible for the bulk of mail he received. |
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Who could do a really good job of making this movie the way it should be made? View Quote |
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I think Doug Liman could do it. He’s done a a diverse range of movies and I always felt the way the suits and landing craft worked in Edge of Tomorrow was the closest thing to Starship Troopers Hollywood has done.
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The director of the movie made it with the intention of mocking the book. View Quote It's a fun read and a trip back to criticisms written in 1997 about the movie by someone who appreciated the book. |
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John Favreau
IF he was a fan of the book. The Mandalorian and his work with Iron Man show that he has a knack for taking something like movies or comics people loved in the 70s and 80s and delivering a good, well done, popular product. |
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I love the book, have since I read it when I was a kid, but the guy that reads the audiobook, OMG he's awful! Not as bad as that movie they made, but awful nonetheless!
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Quoted: I like it the way it is, one of my favorite sci fi movies of all time. Better than the book. View Quote How is this even possible? I think the movie is OK and unintentionally made being an assault trooper seem awesome. Also, the cities were clean and the kids were all pretty safe and care-free strolling around any time of the day or night. That is, no worries about crime. Not what I think the filmmaker should have done if he wanted to tell the story of "Muh Nazis." Though they meant to criticize the concept of "Service equals Citizenship" it ended up looking like a pretty smart way to run a republic by the end of the movie; almost as though Heinlein's storytelling and world-building could not be suppressed and shone through the attempt by the filmmaker to mock Heinlein's world and worldview. But, no jump troopers, no mech armor, forced romance (not that I advocate going deep on Heinlein's views on romance), and an over-all silly take on and interesting and fairly sophisticated sci-fi book. The book is an ode to DIs everywhere and the brotherhood between those who served. Well written with a story arc and a fully formed world complete with a unique and interesting political theory. It's a complete book written by a master storyteller. Unlike many of Heinlein's later works it was pithy and circumspect. The big idea of the book is that people should have a stake in their government (skin in the game) and that choosing to serve others (or something bigger than the self) changes one's perspective on life and personal accountability. This was done by way of a love-letter to all of those tough non-coms who make men from boys. Great book. Meh movie. |
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Quoted: Give Mel Gibson a shot at it. He's pulled off some good stories in the past. He couldn't do any worse than the original View Quote Hasn't he been black-listed, or perhaps gray-listed to doing B roles. He played the antagonist in 1 of "The Expendables" series flicks, but I haven't seen much from him post meltdown. |
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I didn't hate the movie, because I know enough about Paul Verhoeven to know what his bias was, and what he changed from the source material. He's Dutch and a euro-tard, so of course he had to filter it his way. That's Hollywood.
From a tactics perspective I think the lack of power armor made it a little silly, but I kind of regard it as a schlocky sci-fi horror movie with some intentional and unintentional laugh lines. The creature design and special effects held up really well, I think. I have no idea who would make a suitable remake, but of course I would hope for it to be more true to the book. Maybe someone could sell that today, because it would be so counter to the prevailing orthodoxy in Hollywood, but if they can fuck up a franchise as badly as they did with SW, then I really don't hold much hope that the Woke Brigades would keep their dick beaters off it either. |
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The book is an ode to DIs everywhere and the brotherhood between those who served. View Quote The dedication of Starship Troopers reads: “To `Sarge’ Arthur George Smith - Soldier, Citizen, Scientist - and to all sergeants anywhere who have labored to make men out of boys. R.A.H.” Arthur Smith was a close personal friend of Heinlein’s. View Quote |
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Quoted: The dedication of Starship Troopers reads: View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: The book is an ode to DIs everywhere and the brotherhood between those who served. The dedication of Starship Troopers reads: “To `Sarge’ Arthur George Smith - Soldier, Citizen, Scientist - and to all sergeants anywhere who have labored to make men out of boys. R.A.H.” Arthur Smith was a close personal friend of Heinlein’s. Yes, touching and personal. Good book. |
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You’re never going to get a good adaptation of that book unless Hollywood is razed to the ground.
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I'd love a short story of just the initial planet assault done with high end special effects.
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I don't know about the director or producer, but the guy who would have been perfect to write the screenplay is dead. John Steakley wrote 'Armor' and its one of the great SciFi trilogy of powered armor. It was published in 1984, unfortunately he didn't finish the sequel and died in 1993.
John Steakley was perhaps a better action writer than Heinlein, I think he could have easily translated ST into a screenplay, a great screenplay. He like Heinlein knew how to keep the humanity of the people in the suits. And he knew how to write about mindless bugs! Armor can be thought of as a re-write of ST, but its more a sequel. Greatest Powered Armor books in chronological order: Starship Troopers Forever War Armor |
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Quoted: I don't know about the director or producer, but the guy who would have been perfect to write the screenplay is dead. John Steakley wrote 'Armor' and its one of the great SciFi trilogy of powered armor. It was published in 1984, unfortunately he didn't finish the sequel and died in 1993. John Steakley was perhaps a better action writer than Heinlein, I think he could have easily translated ST into a screenplay, a great screenplay. He like Heinlein knew how to keep the humanity of the people in the suits. And he knew how to write about mindless bugs! Armor can be thought of as a re-write of ST, but its more a sequel. Greatest Powered Armor books in chronological order: Starship Troopers Forever War Armor View Quote I agree with 'Forever War.' I've not read "Armor." After it came out, Joe Haldeman was at a SF convention, scared as hell that Heinlein would pan his book. (It was pretty caustic and distrespectful of the military brass.) Heinlein said to him "I liked your book!" Haldeman was ecstatic! |
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The movies were what they were, class B types, no doubt.
However, any future re-make (provided they'll even think of making one) won't ever be the same without that class A style pussy of Denise Richards. She was in her prime there and she was (for me) one of the most gorgeous, perfect pieces of pussy the world has ever seen. Mind you, not talking about acting - fuck it. Couldn't care less. Boy was she gorgeous and sexy. Oh boy. |
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Quoted: The movies were what they were, class B types, no doubt. However, any future re-make (provided they'll even think of making one) won't ever be the same without that class A style pussy of Denise Richards. She was in her prime there and she was (for me) one of the most gorgeous, perfect pieces of pussy the world has ever seen. Mind you, not talking about acting - fuck it. Couldn't care less. Boy was she gorgeous and sexy. Oh boy. View Quote Go watch Wild Things and leave one of the best novels out of it. |
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