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Posted: 5/20/2019 9:31:47 AM EDT
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plus, the old SMASH 'n SLASH: The 12 Ga Riot-gun & The Bayonet the good 'ole 12 bore eats many flavors: ...American Partisan...your good friend.... |
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"We need citizens who are not only prepared to take up arms, but who regard preservation of FREEDOM as a basic purpose of their daily life..."
~John Fitzgerald Kennedy 28 JAN 1961 |
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Equality will destroy humanity.
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Originally Posted By iwouldntknow:
If people were all honest, society would fall apart. The same is true if they were all dishonest. |
portal is open
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My shotgun is easy to grab also. But please don't call it a shottie, that's just stupid.
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"Some people have issues. Sounds like he signed up for an entire subscription." ~Brohawk
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I used to make 4140 & 4150, now I make Cu alloys.
OH, USA
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With a bayonet!!
Me this past weekend, I won this stage: Tactical Shotgun ETA: I HATE the term "shottie" How f'in hard is it to say or type "shotgun" |
Never follow anyone shorter than you; they can walk under things that you can't.
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that is some fine shooting! good job
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"If the 1st Amendment applies to radio, TV and the Internet and the 4th Amendment covers electronic wiretapping and video surveillance, how can the 2nd Amendment only apply to 18th century firearms???"
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Shotguns are pretty excellent for defense
Against winged assailants. |
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I wouldn't say I'm a gun nut... but I'd consider extreme enthusiast.
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Heavy gun, extremely heavy ammo, low capacity and slow reload time. Whats not to love in a zombie apocalypse...
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So you are saying God hates these endangered ducks?
No, I am just saying that if God liked ducks they wouldn't be endangered. |
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Father Jesus said a medical problem caused the erection.
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Originally Posted By echo_5:
Within the realistic, legal, and practical application of self defense, shotguns are amazing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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So you are saying God hates these endangered ducks?
No, I am just saying that if God liked ducks they wouldn't be endangered. |
I used to make 4140 & 4150, now I make Cu alloys.
OH, USA
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Originally Posted By Dace:
In the real world yes. In Zombie Central they are a terrible choice. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dace:
Originally Posted By echo_5:
Originally Posted By Dace:
Heavy gun, extremely heavy ammo, low capacity and slow reload time. Whats not to love in a zombie apocalypse... |
Never follow anyone shorter than you; they can walk under things that you can't.
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I used to make 4140 & 4150, now I make Cu alloys.
OH, USA
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Originally Posted By Dace:
In the real world yes. In Zombie Central they are a terrible choice. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dace:
Originally Posted By echo_5:
Originally Posted By Dace:
Heavy gun, extremely heavy ammo, low capacity and slow reload time. Whats not to love in a zombie apocalypse... Lot's of tactical shotgun videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJh8c0YB4iFGTXWvqO_E8sQ One of my favorites: Francis Marion Shotgun Match 2012 - Dry Land |
Never follow anyone shorter than you; they can walk under things that you can't.
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.40 S&W Supreme Leader & Dictator for Life
FL, USA
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Originally Posted By BeNotAfraid:
https://masondixontactical.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/iraq-pic3.jpg?resize=657%2C821 plus, the old SMASH 'n SLASH: https://masondixontactical.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/bayonet-post11.jpg?resize=576%2C702 The 12 Ga Riot-gun & The Bayonet the good 'ole 12 bore eats many flavors: https://masondixontactical.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/bayonet-post9.jpg?resize=648%2C570 ...American Partisan...your good friend.... View Quote |
End the Political Establishment
Communists/Socialists aren't people |
Originally Posted By Ironmaker:
Also, I have shot a lot of tactical shotgun matches in my life, see my youtube channel and new shooters run out of ammo much faster than they realize, one has to continually stuff shells into the shotgun. Lot's of tactical shotgun videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJh8c0YB4iFGTXWvqO_E8sQ One of my favorites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21ggQc8Hop0 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ironmaker:
Originally Posted By Dace:
Originally Posted By echo_5:
Originally Posted By Dace:
Heavy gun, extremely heavy ammo, low capacity and slow reload time. Whats not to love in a zombie apocalypse... Lot's of tactical shotgun videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJh8c0YB4iFGTXWvqO_E8sQ One of my favorites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21ggQc8Hop0 But for Zombies? Terrible choice. I also seat short stroking a lot with people who are in time constraints and pressure with a pump action. |
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So you are saying God hates these endangered ducks?
No, I am just saying that if God liked ducks they wouldn't be endangered. |
Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician. Jeff Cooper
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oh boy here we go again.
Tl;dr - shotguns work, carbines work better. With the exception of birds there's nothing a shotgun does that something else doesn't do better. They're largely old tech with objective flaws and failures in comparison to rifles that live on because of their price for versatility, and fuddlore. |
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"I have guns to prevent tyrannical genocide. Anyone who tells me to just stop having guns is telling me they favor genocide. It really is that simple. You'll have to forgive me if I won't be quiet about it." - memphisliving
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Originally Posted By StraightMiataMan:
oh boy here we go again. Tl;dr - shotguns work, carbines work better. With the exception of birds there's nothing a shotgun does that something else doesn't do better. They're largely old tech with objective flaws and failures in comparison to rifles that live on because of their price for versatility, and fuddlore. View Quote |
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So you are saying God hates these endangered ducks?
No, I am just saying that if God liked ducks they wouldn't be endangered. |
Originally Posted By StraightMiataMan:
oh boy here we go again. Tl;dr - shotguns work, carbines work better. With the exception of birds there's nothing a shotgun does that something else doesn't do better. They're largely old tech with objective flaws and failures in comparison to rifles that live on because of their price for versatility, and fuddlore. View Quote |
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FBHO
Thanks to tarfin for the membership. |
I wouldn't say I'm a gun nut... but I'd consider extreme enthusiast.
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Originally Posted By BeNotAfraid:
https://masondixontactical.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/iraq-pic3.jpg?resize=657%2C821 View Quote Hitlerverse confirmed. |
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The GD man is crazy saying we're thermoregulated wrecks, oh man, I need GD when I've got C.WAR
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I guess OP has a point.
You gotta figure, shotshells are heavy, so people can only carry so many of them. It also sucks to reload, and even people who practice a lot often drop shells under stress. The gun also runs dry very fast and is slow to reload, so a bunch of people will probably get killed before they can shoot all their ammo. Considering that, there should be plentiful ammo all over the place, really. |
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IT IS EVIDENT TODAY, THE UNIVERSE IS MADE UP OF PROTONS, NEURONS, ELECTRONS, AND MORONS!!!
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Originally Posted By JohnStoner:
So have black powder, lever guns and six shooters. Doesnt make em a good choice. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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FBHO
Thanks to tarfin for the membership. |
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In a true SHTF situation I think 22 LR will be your friend. You can carry lots of ammo, it's relatively quiet, it's everywhere, and when the game laws are gone you can kill anything found in North America w/ it if you place your shot correctly.
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You must play the game. You can't win. You can't break even. You can't quit the game.
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Originally Posted By cletussd:
Does the Military still use Black Powder,Lever Action or 6 Shooters? View Quote In favor of better performing, higher capacity, faster weapons. Weapons that utilize ammunition with better ballistic properties, lighter weight, high carrying quantity etc. Maybe faster to reload too. Something something shotgun. |
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I wouldn't say I'm a gun nut... but I'd consider extreme enthusiast.
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Run for the hills pick up your feet and lets go
Head for the hills pick up steel on your way And when you find a piece of them in your sight Fire at will don't you waste no time |
LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY,
BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT SHOUTING "HOLY $H!T...WHAT A RIDE"!! |
Originally Posted By jhereg:
In a true SHTF situation I think 22 LR will be your friend. You can carry lots of ammo, it's relatively quiet, it's everywhere, and when the game laws are gone you can kill anything found in North America w/ it if you place your shot correctly. View Quote If they are the fast moving run you down & eat you dead of "Dawn of the Dead" then a shotgun to make "head canoes" is my choice... |
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LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY,
BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT SHOUTING "HOLY $H!T...WHAT A RIDE"!! |
Originally Posted By cletussd:
And there's the ignorance. Shotguns have been in use by Military's since they were developed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By cletussd:
Originally Posted By JohnStoner:
Shotguns are pretty excellent for defense Against winged assailants. Shotguns have been in use by Military's since they were developed. Shotguns are a mediocre weapon in all but a very limited set of circumstances. |
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"Shut up, internet!"
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Shotguns are good for a lot of things. But, I have to agree with the forum. This is a good time
to think about AOW though. The shorter profile will allow you to keep them as a backup weapon, breaching tool, and can stop a suicidal terrorist with one shot to the head. But as a primary? Pistol Carbine. |
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Get both
Beretta 1301 tac with fed 00 buck 11.5 BCM pistol with fed fusion |
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Look at a cardboard box of 12 ga buckshot (25 rounds). How many rounds of 5.56 will fit in the same space?
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You must play the game. You can't win. You can't break even. You can't quit the game.
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If I were to step into the world of TWD, I would want a Ruger 10/22 with a 3x9 scope. And I sure wouldn’t stay along the eastern seaboard where so many zombies would be. I’d cross the Ole Miss and try to live a boring life.
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Originally Posted By jhereg:
In a true SHTF situation I think 22 LR will be your friend. You can carry lots of ammo, it's relatively quiet, it's everywhere, and when the game laws are gone you can kill anything found in North America w/ it if you place your shot correctly. View Quote |
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There are over 550 million firearms in worldwide circulation. That's one firearm for every twelve people on the planet. The only question is: How do we arm the other 11?
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Where do you come up with all of this stuff? Do you still have subscriptions to Boy's Life and Soldier of Fortune?
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Originally Posted By StraightMiataMan:
oh boy here we go again. Tl;dr - shotguns work, carbines work better. With the exception of birds there's nothing a shotgun does that something else doesn't do better. They're largely old tech with objective flaws and failures in comparison to rifles that live on because of their price for versatility, and fuddlore. View Quote |
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'The horse is made ready for battle, but victory rests with the LORD' - Proverbs 21:31
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I like to use Mexico and the cartel shootoit leftovers for examples of what works and doesn't in shtf.
Can't say I've seen any shootout leftovers using shotguns. Too long to use in a car, reloading is long, range is at best 75 yards with flight control rounds. I've got one but its really a specific use kinda weapon. If I was staging last defense kinda thing a tube full of slug and buck would be devastating but again I'd still take a 30 round mag of 5.56 over that. A bear charging me however........... |
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Originally Posted By Fuchi: I like to use Mexico and the cartel shootoit leftovers for examples of what works and doesn't in shtf. Can't say I've seen any shootout leftovers using shotguns. Too long to use in a car, reloading is long, range is at best 75 yards with flight control rounds. I've got one but its really a specific use kinda weapon. If I was staging last defense kinda thing a tube full of slug and buck would be devastating but again I'd still take a 30 round mag of 5.56 over that. A bear charging me however........... View Quote You just brought back a thread that is over one year old. Seems appropriate for the zombie forum. |
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For the price of a shotgun, and the price of ammo right now, it isn't a bad idea as a home defense weapon, but, realistically, given the size of the crowds I see going down the street, it wouldn't be my first choice if I was alone. Hard to keep fed, and hard to get on target vs. a much lighter weapon, like a carbine, or a pistol variant, the juice probably isn't worth the squeeze.
It will however, for the most part, incapacitate someone almost immediately. It will shut down the computer if that's what's needed. But first choice of weapon, naturally, would be the carbine, with a lot of ammo. Of course, it's all relative anyway. Against armor, or drones, or anything else even remotely significant, you'll probably end up feeling you might as well have a cap gun for as much effect on target as you are having. Yeah, an Ar 15 can be an equalizer against multiple assailants, but, at the same time, can be about as worthless as tits on a bull if what you're facing is bringing anything remotely resembling ass. it's all relative. A shotgun can decisively end a fight. A small one. With a limited number of protagonists. Anything more than that, and you're going to wish for something bigger. Heck, everyone wishes for something bigger. An AR might not cut it if a 240 is clearly called for. On and on. |
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Security Officer - underpaid, under sexed, under the bus.
Protestors who never do right want to tell everyone what the right thing to do is. |
Originally Posted By SirSqueeboo: You just brought back a thread that is over one year old. Seems appropriate for the zombie forum. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SirSqueeboo: Originally Posted By Fuchi: I like to use Mexico and the cartel shootoit leftovers for examples of what works and doesn't in shtf. Can't say I've seen any shootout leftovers using shotguns. Too long to use in a car, reloading is long, range is at best 75 yards with flight control rounds. I've got one but its really a specific use kinda weapon. If I was staging last defense kinda thing a tube full of slug and buck would be devastating but again I'd still take a 30 round mag of 5.56 over that. A bear charging me however........... You just brought back a thread that is over one year old. Seems appropriate for the zombie forum. To be honest I don't read this forum too often. Maybe many don't it would seem. |
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might be the only ammo left at least in my AO for that matter 28 gauge anyone?
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"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that you won't need it until they try to take it away."-Thomas Jefferson-
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Skinny Italian ladies are where it’s at.
They kill with their hot looks. DSC_1669-M2 Barrel Billboard by FredMan, on Flickr M2 SBS by FredMan, on Flickr |
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GD is like putting on crampons and walking through a room full of puppies.
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