User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 10/22/2010 8:37:45 AM EDT
[#1]
I would get a cordless combo drill, regular and hammer option in one package.
When you need a hammer drill, there is no substitute. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/22/2010 9:02:20 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Any other uses that would justify picking one up over a conventional drill? You can turn the hammer function on and off on the better ones. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/22/2010 11:40:26 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Any other uses that would justify picking one up over a conventional drill? You can turn the hammer function on and off on the better ones. this plus I have used the hammer function while driving long lag bolts into timbers while doing deck and other large frame projects. J- |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/22/2010 12:23:56 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Any other uses that would justify picking one up over a conventional drill? You can turn the hammer function on and off on the better ones. this plus I have used the hammer function while driving long lag bolts into timbers while doing deck and other large frame projects. J- Great way to reduce the less than great withdrawal strength of lag screws. What kind of nut goes on a "lag bolt"? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/22/2010 6:21:06 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Any other uses that would justify picking one up over a conventional drill? You can turn the hammer function on and off on the better ones. this plus I have used the hammer function while driving long lag bolts into timbers while doing deck and other large frame projects. J- I don't think you want to use a hammer function for any type of driving. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2010 5:25:26 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Any other uses that would justify picking one up over a conventional drill? You can turn the hammer function on and off on the better ones. this plus I have used the hammer function while driving long lag bolts into timbers while doing deck and other large frame projects. J- I don't think you want to use a hammer function for any type of driving. huh, never had a problem with it . Worked on my first house build when I was 7 years old, lol. My step dad was a builder. J- |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2010 6:02:58 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Any other uses that would justify picking one up over a conventional drill? You can turn the hammer function on and off on the better ones. this plus I have used the hammer function while driving long lag bolts into timbers while doing deck and other large frame projects. J- I don't think you want to use a hammer function for any type of driving. huh, never had a problem with it . Worked on my first house build when I was 7 years old, lol. My step dad was a builder. J- Stay away from my jobs. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2010 6:52:51 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Any other uses that would justify picking one up over a conventional drill? You can turn the hammer function on and off on the better ones. this plus I have used the hammer function while driving long lag bolts into timbers while doing deck and other large frame projects. J- I don't think you want to use a hammer function for any type of driving. huh, never had a problem with it . Worked on my first house build when I was 7 years old, lol. My step dad was a builder. J- Stay away from my jobs. no problem them, LMAO J- |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2010 6:57:28 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Any other uses that would justify picking one up over a conventional drill? You can turn the hammer function on and off on the better ones. this plus I have used the hammer function while driving long lag bolts into timbers while doing deck and other large frame projects. J- I don't think you want to use a hammer function for any type of driving. I use them for running tapcons in. It works better than a non hammer. Give it short burst and it drives the Tapcon in very well especially if you are having a hard time running them down with a standard drill. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2010 7:18:32 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Any other uses that would justify picking one up over a conventional drill? You can turn the hammer function on and off on the better ones. this plus I have used the hammer function while driving long lag bolts into timbers while doing deck and other large frame projects. J- I don't think you want to use a hammer function for any type of driving. I use them for running tapcons in. It works better than a non hammer. Give it short burst and it drives the Tapcon in very well especially if you are having a hard time running them down with a standard drill. This is where an impact driver shines. Using rotational force not a linear type force. All a hammer drill is doing is hitting the back of a screw while you are turning it into place. It's really not something you should be doing. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2010 9:18:34 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Any other uses that would justify picking one up over a conventional drill? You can turn the hammer function on and off on the better ones. this plus I have used the hammer function while driving long lag bolts into timbers while doing deck and other large frame projects. J- I don't think you want to use a hammer function for any type of driving. I use them for running tapcons in. It works better than a non hammer. Give it short burst and it drives the Tapcon in very well especially if you are having a hard time running them down with a standard drill. This is where an impact driver shines. Using rotational force not a linear type force. All a hammer drill is doing is hitting the back of a screw while you are turning it into place. It's really not something you should be doing. It violates the code listing for the tapcons, resulting in reduced strength. But hey, you should be paid & gone by the time anything fails. Ethics is what you do when no one is looking. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2010 9:50:14 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Any other uses that would justify picking one up over a conventional drill? You can turn the hammer function on and off on the better ones. this plus I have used the hammer function while driving long lag bolts into timbers while doing deck and other large frame projects. J- I don't think you want to use a hammer function for any type of driving. I use them for running tapcons in. It works better than a non hammer. Give it short burst and it drives the Tapcon in very well especially if you are having a hard time running them down with a standard drill. This is where an impact driver shines. Using rotational force not a linear type force. All a hammer drill is doing is hitting the back of a screw while you are turning it into place. It's really not something you should be doing. It violates the code listing for the tapcons, resulting in reduced strength. But hey, you should be paid & gone by the time anything fails. Ethics is what you do when no one is looking. The hammer drill violates the code. In the tapcon specs it says to drive it with rotational force only. I would never use a hammer drill to drive any type of fastener, nor did I say or imply that I ever would. Where are you seeing that I have said this? If you read the thread you will see that I have agreed with you. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2010 9:56:09 AM EDT
[#13]
I have a Hilti TE-7 for my hammer drill, but I also have a chuck for it, which turns it into a great corded drill.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2010 1:52:17 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Any other uses that would justify picking one up over a conventional drill? You can turn the hammer function on and off on the better ones. this plus I have used the hammer function while driving long lag bolts into timbers while doing deck and other large frame projects. J- I don't think you want to use a hammer function for any type of driving. I use them for running tapcons in. It works better than a non hammer. Give it short burst and it drives the Tapcon in very well especially if you are having a hard time running them down with a standard drill. This is where an impact driver shines. Using rotational force not a linear type force. All a hammer drill is doing is hitting the back of a screw while you are turning it into place. It's really not something you should be doing. It violates the code listing for the tapcons, resulting in reduced strength. But hey, you should be paid & gone by the time anything fails. Ethics is what you do when no one is looking. The hammer drill violates the code. In the tapcon specs it says to drive it with rotational force only. I would never use a hammer drill to drive any type of fastener, nor did I say or imply that I ever would. Where are you seeing that I have said this? If you read the thread you will see that I have agreed with you. I am the one that said it. It works I am not using them on anything structural anyway. Conduit straps is what I mainly Tapcon |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2010 2:15:58 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Any other uses that would justify picking one up over a conventional drill? You can turn the hammer function on and off on the better ones. this plus I have used the hammer function while driving long lag bolts into timbers while doing deck and other large frame projects. J- I don't think you want to use a hammer function for any type of driving. Do not use the hammer function to install fasteners, hammer should be run at high speed with little resistance, let the tool do the work. If you drive anchors often ( not all ways ) the clutch/gear case assy will fail. I purchased the MAKITA LXT218 kit and wish I bought it 5 years ago, take a look. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2010 6:38:15 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Any other uses that would justify picking one up over a conventional drill? You can turn the hammer function on and off on the better ones. this plus I have used the hammer function while driving long lag bolts into timbers while doing deck and other large frame projects. J- I don't think you want to use a hammer function for any type of driving. I use them for running tapcons in. It works better than a non hammer. Give it short burst and it drives the Tapcon in very well especially if you are having a hard time running them down with a standard drill. This is where an impact driver shines. Using rotational force not a linear type force. All a hammer drill is doing is hitting the back of a screw while you are turning it into place. It's really not something you should be doing. It violates the code listing for the tapcons, resulting in reduced strength. But hey, you should be paid & gone by the time anything fails. Ethics is what you do when no one is looking. The hammer drill violates the code. In the tapcon specs it says to drive it with rotational force only. I would never use a hammer drill to drive any type of fastener, nor did I say or imply that I ever would. Where are you seeing that I have said this? If you read the thread you will see that I have agreed with you. I am the one that said it. It works I am not using them on anything structural anyway. Conduit straps is what I mainly Tapcon The straps ARE weight bearing, they are holding up the conduit as required for support under the NEC. Unless you do not really care if they fall off the walls and ceiling. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2010 8:46:53 AM EDT
[#17]
Look dude, I live in a very small community, I work on my friends and neighbors projects. Warranty everything, not once have I had a conduit strap fail that was attached in this fashion. You can worry about it if you want, but I am not.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/25/2010 6:30:51 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted: Quoted: Any other uses that would justify picking one up over a conventional drill? You can turn the hammer function on and off on the better ones. I have yet to run into a hammer drill that you couldn't turn to rotary only. I have a cordless hammer drill, the 299 Dewalt one. It works nicely. If you need to do concrete at any frequency other than rarely, pick up a dedicated rotary hammer. I'm fond of: The Bosch 11224VSRC It is important if you get a rotary hammer to get one with hammer only mode so that you can chip out concrete with it. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/25/2010 7:03:12 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
I have yet to run into a hammer drill that you couldn't turn to rotary only. I have. A Milwaukee. Can't remember what model. I rented it to core some 3" holes in concrete. Found out it only offered rotary-hammer and hammer. No rotary only. Completely useless for what I wanted to do. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/25/2010 7:38:09 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted: Quoted: I have yet to run into a hammer drill that you couldn't turn to rotary only. I have. A Milwaukee. Can't remember what model. I rented it to core some 3" holes in concrete. Found out it only offered rotary-hammer and hammer. No rotary only. Completely useless for what I wanted to do. If it can core 3" holes in concrete, it's not a hammer drill. Don't try to correct someone when you don't know the terminology. For those that don't know the difference: Rotary Hammer vs. Hammer Drill The rotary hammer uses a piston for impact while the hammer drill uses a clutch, and hammer drills are really not for concrete use at any serious amount like I pointed out earlier. Masonry they are fine, but it's not fun to drill even a 3/8" hole in concrete with a hammer drill compared to a rotary hammer. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/25/2010 8:01:55 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I have yet to run into a hammer drill that you couldn't turn to rotary only. I have. A Milwaukee. Can't remember what model. I rented it to core some 3" holes in concrete. Found out it only offered rotary-hammer and hammer. No rotary only. Completely useless for what I wanted to do. If it can core 3" holes in concrete, it's not a hammer drill. Don't try to correct someone when you don't know the terminology. For those that don't know the difference: Rotary Hammer vs. Hammer Drill The rotary hammer uses a piston for impact while the hammer drill uses a clutch, and hammer drills are really not for concrete use at any serious amount like I pointed out earlier. Masonry they are fine, but it's not fun to drill even a 3/8" hole in concrete with a hammer drill compared to a rotary hammer. Take the snarky shit back to GD. And next time, please try to hot link correctly. I don't know what you're trying to say because the link doesn't work. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/25/2010 8:03:52 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I have yet to run into a hammer drill that you couldn't turn to rotary only. I have. A Milwaukee. Can't remember what model. I rented it to core some 3" holes in concrete. Found out it only offered rotary-hammer and hammer. No rotary only. Completely useless for what I wanted to do. I have one––it's called a Thunderbolt. It always hammers, which is fine, as it's too large and unwieldly to use as a regular drill. I can hammer only with a chisel bit––no splines, which makes it hammer like a mofo, as it just eats concrete. 
I have a buddy who has a similar one made by Hilti, and it has a switch to make it hammer/rotary, or rotary only. He has used it as a drill, but didn't say what for. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/25/2010 8:08:02 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have yet to run into a hammer drill that you couldn't turn to rotary only. I have. A Milwaukee. Can't remember what model. I rented it to core some 3" holes in concrete. Found out it only offered rotary-hammer and hammer. No rotary only. Completely useless for what I wanted to do. If it can core 3" holes in concrete, it's not a hammer drill. Don't try to correct someone when you don't know the terminology. For those that don't know the difference: Rotary Hammer vs. Hammer Drill The rotary hammer uses a piston for impact while the hammer drill uses a clutch, and hammer drills are really not for concrete use at any serious amount like I pointed out earlier. Masonry they are fine, but it's not fun to drill even a 3/8" hole in concrete with a hammer drill compared to a rotary hammer. Take the snarky shit back to GD. And next time, please try to hot link correctly. I don't know what you're trying to say because the link doesn't work. Fixed due to some glitch in the editor, I know how to hotlink. And don't be surprised if someone is offened when you try to show they don't know what they're talking about when they actually do. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/25/2010 8:10:35 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I have yet to run into a hammer drill that you couldn't turn to rotary only. I have. A Milwaukee. Can't remember what model. I rented it to core some 3" holes in concrete. Found out it only offered rotary-hammer and hammer. No rotary only. Completely useless for what I wanted to do. If it can core 3" holes in concrete, it's not a hammer drill. Don't try to correct someone when you don't know the terminology. For those that don't know the difference: Rotary Hammer vs. Hammer Drill The rotary hammer uses a piston for impact while the hammer drill uses a clutch, and hammer drills are really not for concrete use at any serious amount like I pointed out earlier. Masonry they are fine, but it's not fun to drill even a 3/8" hole in concrete with a hammer drill compared to a rotary hammer. Take the snarky shit back to GD. And next time, please try to hot link correctly. I don't know what you're trying to say because the link doesn't work. He's saying a hammer drill and a rotary hammer are two totally different things––though they have similar uses. I have both, and he is exactly correct––the rotary hammer will bore a 1" hole in concrete like drilling into a 2X4" piece of lumber. The hammer drill does "okay" when drilling a 3/16" hole in concrete for a Tapcon––but that's about IT. 
My Thunderbolt says "Milwaukee HAMMER" on the outside of the steel case. No mention of "drill." 
I have a Makita hammer drill (thanks, Bigsapper!) that is GREAT for making little holes for Tapcons. And it does work better than the Milwaukee, as a 3/16" bit is easy to break with a 20# Thunderbolt. It's all about having the right tool for the job at hand. A hammer drill for boring 3" holes is . . . not gonna happen.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/25/2010 8:16:16 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Fixed due to some glitch in the editor, I know how to hotlink. And don't be surprised if someone is offened when you try to show they don't know what they're talking about when they actually do. Hotlink still doesn't work. I don't think it's the editor, I think it's the page you're trying to link to. It sure seems silly to be offended by calling a hammer drill a rotary hammer. I certainly wasn't trying to show you up. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/26/2010 4:48:35 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Fixed due to some glitch in the editor, I know how to hotlink. And don't be surprised if someone is offened when you try to show they don't know what they're talking about when they actually do. Hotlink still doesn't work. I don't think it's the editor, I think it's the page you're trying to link to. It sure seems silly to be offended by calling a hammer drill a rotary hammer. I certainly wasn't trying to show you up. it's not the page. the link is broken because the ARFCOM forum software translates two consecutive dashes into an "em dash" –– even when embedded into a URL. the link to the subject page includes two consecutive dashes, which the forum software duly converts to an em dash, and hence the link is incorrect after it has been processed. this is clearly an error in the forum software, as nothing inside the URL tags should be stapled, folded, spindled, or mutilated. here is what the link should look like http://www.doityourself.com/stry/rotary-hammers-versus-hammer-drills––whats-the-difference here is what the link looks like after processing mangling by the board software http://www.doityourself.com/stry/rotary-hammers-versus-hammer-drills%E2%80%93%E2%80%93whats-the-difference note the back to back dashes have been unhelpfully "adjusted". ar-jedi |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/26/2010 6:49:45 AM EDT
[#27]
So then if I read that correctly a standard Dewalt DC725KA should NOT be used to drill 1/2" holes in concrete to anchor down a safe?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/26/2010 6:53:02 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
So then if I read that correctly a standard Dewalt DC725KA should NOT be used to drill 1/2" holes in concrete to anchor down a safe? You can use a rubber mallet to pound in 16D spikes if you want. All some people are saying is that the proper tools make most jobs easier. Just because a tool is capable of a task doesn't mean it is best suited for a task. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/26/2010 6:53:25 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
So then if I read that correctly a standard Dewalt DC725KA should NOT be used to drill 1/2" holes in concrete to anchor down a safe? I'm not familiar with that particular model, but you want a true rotary hammer––and renting one would not be expensive.
If you were closer you could use mine. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/26/2010 7:01:49 AM EDT
[#30]
I was on my phone and didn't link to it. It is this one.
Thanks for the offer beekeeper. I guess I will go rent the proper tool as I don't want to burn mine up. I did a couple of shallow (1/2" or so) test drills with it and it seemed like it may not be good on the drill even though that is what I bought it for. It's a good thing I put a steel roof on a garage as it paid for itself doing that. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/26/2010 7:10:15 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
So then if I read that correctly a standard Dewalt DC725KA should NOT be used to drill 1/2" holes in concrete to anchor down a safe? the user manual that came with your DC725 states that the maximum drilling capability in masonry is 1/2" [13mm]. will this cordless hammer-drill make a 1/2" dia hole in concrete? yes. can you do it faster with a rotary hammer? yes. would you use a cordless hammer-drill to drill four 1/2" dia holes? yes would you use a rotary hammer instead to drill tons of 1/2" dia holes? yes ar-jedi |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2010 4:25:33 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted: So then if I read that correctly a standard Dewalt DC725KA should NOT be used to drill 1/2" holes in concrete to anchor down a safe? It would be a pain, but you could do it as long as you have good percussion rated drill bits. I would suggest finding out how much it would be to rent a rotary hammer because you're talking about the difference between 15 minutes of drilling, and lots of cussing for an hour or two and sore arms. |
|
|
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
