Quoted: Quoted: I kept the method as autodraft and set our status to ready. Draft will take place by 8/16. Season does not start until well into September....can we move that bak to 30th or so?

Too late. Looks like we already drafted. Crap, I didn't even get a chance to set my rankings.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I kept the method as autodraft and set our status to ready. Draft will take place by 8/16. Season does not start until well into September....can we move that bak to 30th or so? What would be the reason for that?  Why does it matter when the season starts? Draft happened a little quicker than I expected anyway. Matters because people get injured in preseason.  We already drafted? WTF?

Yep, and some players are still trying out for their jobs in training camp. The depth charts (and rankings) could change considerably over the next few weeks. Chicago RB Thomas Jones and Denver RB Mike Anderson are currently the starters, and THEY WENT UNDRAFTED. Cedric Benson and Tatum Bell are both backup RB, yet they were drafted first.

BTW, Jones and Anderson have already been plucked from the free agency list.

That sucked... but didnt as I got first pick and seemed to autodraft decent players.

Picked up a few big RBs and the Beavers look to dominate another season of ARFCOM fantasy football.

Rhodes and Ricky Williams for a second TE (wtf was that) and a second DEF... now to replace my gay second kicker!

We can sign up for a second league with the same teams and do a live draft. I think more leagues is more fun and more options!

With 32 pro teams and only 8 fantasy teams it's a pretty deep league and lots of room to leave quality players on the bench.

I think I liked it better when you had 2 starting QBs and 3 starting WRs. If 8 teams start 2 QBs each that's still only half of the 32 starting QBs each week. And most pro teams have #1 #2 and 3# receivers. 32 x 3 = 96 WRs to start each week. Or maybe you could add another combo slot, W/T or W/R.

I think Yahoo rules allow you to change starting roster positions before scoring begins week 1. I think more positions would make the league slightly shallower and thus more competitive.

Any opinions?

Add a QB and a WR/RB position to the starting roster and one more BN slot to make them even 20 man teams, 12 starters and 8 bench players.

Like this: QB, QB, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/T, W/R, W/R, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

Should I add a poll?

Quoted: Please don;t change the starting lineup AFTER the draft.

What I suggested is almost the way it was BEFORE the draft, and Burley changed it and set the draft status to ready before anyone had a chance to set their draft orders.

The only thing to change would be everyone would get to pick up one extra player as a free agent (20 man roster instead of 19) and everyone would get to insert two extra bench players into the lineup every week.

Quality free agents WILL be available as they are every year due to injuries and poor performance of starters... i.e. last year Reuben Droughns, Nick Goings, Billy Volek, Willis McGahee, Larry Johnson, and others went undrafted yet found themselves playing and contributing to fantasy teams. Volek got me to the playoffs last year.

I mean with just 8 teams in the league, any dumb manager can stick his studs in the lineup every week with minimal management decisions. Leagues with more teams are more competitive because they're shallower. We can't add more teams but we can add more players.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Please don;t change the starting lineup AFTER the draft. What I suggested is almost the way it was BEFORE the draft, and Burley changed it and set the draft status to ready before anyone had a chance to set their draft orders. The only thing to change would be everyone would get to pick up one extra player as a free agent (20 man roster instead of 19) and everyone would get to insert two extra bench players into the lineup every week. Quality free agents WILL be available as they are every year due to injuries and poor performance of starters... i.e. last year Reuben Droughns, Nick Goings, Billy Volek, Willis McGahee, Larry Johnson, and others went undrafted yet found themselves playing and contributing to fantasy teams. Volek got me to the playoffs last year. I mean with just 8 teams in the league, any dumb manager can stick his studs in the lineup every week with minimal management decisions. Leagues with more teams are more competitive because they're shallower. We can't add more teams but we can add more players. My say is to just let it role.  A smaller roster makes it more fun because you put your eggs in one basket. With 2 QB's is less of a gamble. My vote 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 K 1 DEF

I'd say whoever drafted P Manning and D Culpepper will have pretty full baskets at the end of the season...

2004 Manning fantasy points = 405
2004 Culpepper fantasy points = 361

If Burley's scoring system (7 pts/TD) were used last year (instead of 6 pts/TD) it would look like this:

Manning fantasy points 454
Culpepper fantasy points 402

For comparison...

2004 T Brady fantasy points = 224..... (@7pts/TD = 252)
2004 M Vick fantasy points = 158..... (@7pts/TD = 175)
2004 B Griese fantasy points = 156..... (@7pts/TD = 176)
2004 B Roethlisberger fantasy points = 147..... (@7pts/TD = 158)

Those are pretty significant point differences. As you can see, scoring is weighted heavily to whoever has the top 2 or 3 elite QBs. Most of those who drafted them won their leagues last year. 7 points/TD makes it worse. Some leagues score 3 or 4 points per passing TD to de-emphasize QB scoring. And some leagues let you start 2 QBs so you can spot start a 2nd QB you think is going to have a good day.

But if you guys want just one QB at 7pts/TD I'd say Gold Tooth Beavers and DonkeyPunchers are probably going to have a pretty good season.

ETA: I'm not saying that Manning will best last year's record-breaking season, just that there's more disparity between the elite QBs and the run-of-the-mill QBs than the other positions, WR, RB, etc.

Quoted: <snip> I then only have to follow 2 QB's per sunday (mine and my opponents) <snip>

Negative. Burley set up a points only league, not a head to head league. There is no playoff system, no head to head each week. The winner is the one with the most points at the end of the season.

Under the current points system, Peyton Manning could top Tom Brady by as much as 200 fantasy points. I use Brady as an example because he's obviously a good QB, winning three of the last four Super Bowls.

200 fantasy points... that's more than #1 RB pick LaDainian Tomlinson got last year! If Peyton Manning has a year like last year, he could produce the combined fantasy points of Tom Brady and LaDainian Tomlinson!

But, it's just a game. No matter what I'm going to have fun with it.

Quoted: I added one roster spot this morning to give us 20.

I think you were the only one to get an extra spot.

I can still make a lot of changes.  The problem is coming to an agreement about anything. After giving it some thought, changing the points awarded to QB's for TD passes is a good idea. My main reason for points over head to head was that I've done several head to head games over the years and just didn't care for it. Get everyone to agree on it and I'll switch to head to head.

Whatever you want man. Your league, your rules. Like I said, I'll have fun with it no matter what. I made a few suggestions but if it's not what people want, no biggie. I could always start my own league if I want different rules.