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Quoted: And yes I already tried SW in a VM and it worked ok but I did not really like the virtual graphics performance. View Quote VirtualBox? Everyone knows if you want decent gfx in VM you need to use VMWare... |
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I had a killer x64 bit XP build a long time ago, back when XP was all there was. It was darn near impossible to find software for it as it was particularly rare at the time. I remember Kaspersky was the only available AV software for plain folk. I had a 4 HDD Raid 0 Array for mine, booted insanely quick (for the time period). THis was of course before SSDs.
Don't forget to load the SATA drivers on install. Unless they fixed that in later releases. That was annoying. |
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Quoted: I had a killer x64 bit XP build a long time ago, back when XP was all there was. It was darn near impossible to find software for it as it was particularly rare at the time. I remember Kaspersky was the only available AV software for plain folk. I had a 4 HDD Raid 0 Array for mine, booted insanely quick (for the time period). THis was of course before SSDs. Don't forget to load the SATA drivers on install. Unless they fixed that in later releases. That was annoying. View Quote Good luck finding a floppy drive... |
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3.5" floppy drives can be found on Ebay, and probably for less on Craigslist. You can probably get an entire floppy-equipped pc at Goodwill. Some e-recycle places will set aside old hardware they think would be worth something to a collector.
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Quoted: Good luck finding a floppy drive... View Quote You could also just slipstream the drivers using nLite. Which is what I did for that particular build, just to try it. Of course back then it was unnecessary as floppy drives were still sold at Microcenter. Maybe they still are, I haven’t looked. |
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I'm surprised a GTX 960 would work. I though you'd have to get an 8800 or 9800 or something.
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Quoted: Quoted: I had a killer x64 bit XP build a long time ago, back when XP was all there was. It was darn near impossible to find software for it as it was particularly rare at the time. I remember Kaspersky was the only available AV software for plain folk. I had a 4 HDD Raid 0 Array for mine, booted insanely quick (for the time period). THis was of course before SSDs. Don't forget to load the SATA drivers on install. Unless they fixed that in later releases. That was annoying. Good luck finding a floppy drive... Oh I have probably 15 or 18 floppy drives in my pile, but that board does not have a floppy controller and I should not need a floppy since both the sata chipsets have IDE mode. |
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Quoted: 3.5" floppy drives can be found on Ebay, and probably for less on Craigslist. You can probably get an entire floppy-equipped pc at Goodwill. Some e-recycle places will set aside old hardware they think would be worth something to a collector. View Quote I actually just ordered a new USB floppy drive off of Amazon. Realized I had some software I needed to get off of floppy and don't have any hardware capable of reading it. That being said, it turns into a .img file and I can then load it into a virtual floppy dirve in ESXi (I've got DOS 6.22, Windows 3.1, 98SE, XP and 7 running on VMs there). |
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I dropped a Core 2 Duo in my ThinkPad T60 and put Windows XP x64 Edition on it. Basically pointless. Microsoft's compilers were still slower targeting AMD64 than i686 back then.
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Quoted: I dropped a Core 2 Duo in my ThinkPad T60 and put Windows XP x64 Edition on it. Basically pointless. Microsoft's compilers were still slower targeting AMD64 than i686 back then. View Quote I ran Xp 64bit for a few years, it REALLY SUCKED ASS the first few months after release, hardly any drivers. Went back to XP 32 bit for about six months until all the drivers I needed were released. |
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Quoted: Oh I have probably 15 or 18 floppy drives in my pile, but that board does not have a floppy controller and I should not need a floppy since both the sata chipsets have IDE mode. View Quote I just realized I haven't even seen a board with an IDE controller going on 15 years or more. The last PC I built that had a 3.5 would have been in the late 90's. I think IDE optical drives were gone around 2004 so that pretty much was it for IDE. I miss the old days. Going to watch LGR on YouTube now. |
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Quoted: Xp 64bit can use up to 128 gig's. Also its going to run on real hardware not in a VM, I already tried it in a VM. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Can XP even address that much ram? nvm, VM, not bare metal Xp 64bit can use up to 128 gig's. Also its going to run on real hardware not in a VM, I already tried it in a VM. XP 64 bit was a shit OS that didn't really run properly ever on anything. As I recall it had drivers for almost nothing and was extremely unstable. It was MS' first stab at a 64 bit OS and it failed miserably. You're going to most likely get stuck having to run 32 bit and stick with 4gb of ram. |
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Quoted: XP 64 bit was a shit OS that didn't really run properly ever on anything. As I recall it had drivers for almost nothing and was extremely unstable. It was MS' first stab at a 64 bit OS and it failed miserably. You're going to most likely get stuck having to run 32 bit and stick with 4gb of ram. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Can XP even address that much ram? nvm, VM, not bare metal Xp 64bit can use up to 128 gig's. Also its going to run on real hardware not in a VM, I already tried it in a VM. XP 64 bit was a shit OS that didn't really run properly ever on anything. As I recall it had drivers for almost nothing and was extremely unstable. It was MS' first stab at a 64 bit OS and it failed miserably. You're going to most likely get stuck having to run 32 bit and stick with 4gb of ram. I ran it on my main pc for four or five years until Windows 7 came out, I only had driver issues when it first came out after that it worked ok. Plan B is Windows 2008 R2 server but i'm not sure about video card drivers. |
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Quoted: I just realized I haven't even seen a board with an IDE controller going on 15 years or more. The last PC I built that had a 3.5 would have been in the late 90's. I think IDE optical drives were gone around 2004 so that pretty much was it for IDE. I miss the old days. Going to watch LGR on YouTube now. View Quote I remember on the first PC I built in high school, I had to reuse some old parts and had some drive that was IDE. It was hard finding a mobo to support it. I can't remember if I did or if I found a stata/IDE conversion cable. |
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SATA on an IDE controller is trivial .. I just got a couple of these to run an SSD in an old P-III Win98SE box.
You're still limited to DMA66 speeds, but it's worlds better than a spinner. |
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Booting up the windows install disc.
I had to remove some sticks of ram , the cpu cooler was not allowing them to seat fully and the it spit out memory errors on the slots closest to the cooler. Only 96 gigs now. Well that did not go well, XP choked immediately. Going with plan B, 2008 R2 server 64 bit. Also the Nvidia 64bit Vista driver worked on server 2008 R2, I was not expecting it to so that was a nice surprise. I guess I need to slipstream drivers into the XP install disk or get a usb floppy. |
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I installed XP 64 bit in Virtualbox to be able to slipstream the marvel driver into the install iso.
My dvd burner kept erroring out with cdr's so i used a dvdr. So i'll reboot with my fresh xp disk to see if it sees the sata drives. Saga continues.... Supposedly the marvell drivers were for version 91xx and 92xx , the mobo has 92xx, but did not work. So looks like Im done trying to install XP 64 bit because of lack of drivers. But 2008 R2 server works GREAT, now I need to install Solid Works. |
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Damn Windows......for some damn reason it set the page file to over 98 gigs on my 120 gig C: drive.
Now it's not wanting to activate, so i'm going to let it update then try again. The error was something to do with the time was not set correctly even tho it was, so I had to do the phone activation to get it to activate. |
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Solid works installed just fine but crashes.......
Lots of errors. Wasted lots of time tracking them down and nothing helped. Will need to fall back and punt. |
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It's a shame I can't install it on the high end hardware that I have.
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Wasn’t there a generic SATA driver in those days that you could slipstream in? I used the same disc to install x64 XP on a half dozen machines. Unless they all had the same controller.
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I ended up signing up for a free for non commercial use Autoesk Fusion 360 and running it on my main Ryzen pc.
Defiantly different...... Also I installed Xp 64bit in a VM and still can run solid works decently enough. |
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Instead of wasting time trying to build this system to run obsolete software on an obsolete OS, wouldn’t it be a better use of your time to learn Fusion 360 on a modern OS?
Edit: oops. Sorry. I just saw your last post. Good move. I know learning Fusion will be take time...it’s a complicated product. And you already know SolidWorks. But I still think this is the best use of your time. And I bet your SolidWorks background speeds up your adoption of Fusion. |
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