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1/2/2011 8:47:13 AM EDT
Looking for a 2-3 day tac carbine course.  I have a local course I am looking at in AL but I am interested in TDI and US Training Center.  Both would be relatively easy to get to.

TDI price/time/etc all look to be an easier fit for me if I want to travel.  Blackwater is awesome I am sure but the time and cost are pretty demanding for me.

I need feedback of guidance on any ideas pref based on personal attendance and experience.  I am prior service 11B but I want to refine/sharpen my old skills, learn some new things (low light/red dot/etc) and have fun.  

Opinions??
1/2/2011 5:41:46 PM EDT
[#1]
Former 11b here with some experience and opinions:

First...

I am from the Cold War era (mid 80's) and things today are way beyond what was taught back then.

Having said that, you will get great results from any reputable school/instructor.

In my day, Uncle Sugar's remedy for a malfunction with an M16 was S.P.O.R.T.S.

That's it.

One drill to (hopefully) solve all issues.

We have come very far since then.

An up to date school/course will teach you things the Gov't did not bother to teach

The Army taught marksmanship, but they did not teach how to fight with that weapon.

A "basic" one day course will give you a great foundation to enhance what you know from your mil training.

A course that is more than one day will give you even more. Yes, you were military, but unless you were in a high-speed unit
that supplemented it's training with civilian instruction, you are missing out.

I thought I knew plenty before I went to my first training course (a pistol course).

I was very wrong about that.

Training does not cost, it pays.

I attended Blackwater in 2005 and very much enjoyed the course. If you can swing it, try to do the 5 day carbine
operator course. After that, every year or so, take a one or two day course as a refresher to keep your skills sharp
and make sure you have not relapsed/picked up any bad habits. It is easier (logistically/financially) to get to those shorter
courses because you can usually do that locally (travelling instructors/schools) and therefore do it yearly and not let your
skills lapse.






1/2/2011 10:27:15 PM EDT
[#2]
Shootrite (Tiger Mckee) is in your backyard.

http://www.shootrite.org/
1/4/2011 3:50:24 AM EDT
[#3]
Thanks guys!

Mo4040..............Didn't I see you are Benning around 88'?    lol.  Nice review and statement.

I will check out shootright.  Thanks!
1/4/2011 4:01:11 AM EDT
[#4]
2 thumbs up on Shootrite!!!!!!!!!!  Thanks for the link.  Looks like a no brainer and excellent method to pick up some skills this year within a reasonable pricepoint.
1/4/2011 12:13:14 PM EDT
[#5]
I've taken two classes at Shootrite and highly recommend it.  The class sizes were small.  The defensive carbine class had 3 students including me when I took it.  I later took a handgun class with 4 students total.
Tiger is a very good instuctor.    

I'm planning to go back this year for a more advanced course.  

Let me know if you have any specific questions.
1/4/2011 7:14:46 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
I've taken two classes at Shootrite and highly recommend it.  The class sizes were small.  The defensive carbine class had 3 students including me when I took it.  I later took a handgun class with 4 students total.
Tiger is a very good instuctor.    

I'm planning to go back this year for a more advanced course.  

Let me know if you have any specific questions.


Thanks brgator.  Yeah, I am sold.  I want to do the defensive carbine and defensive handgun course to get the ball rolling.  Thanks for the detail on class size, etc......bet that was some excellent learning.  I will PM you at some point once I have my game on and ready to pull the trigger.  Looking at a spring or early fall window of time.
1/5/2011 4:11:23 AM EDT
[#7]
I'd like to make a small suggestion:

If possible, take the pistol course(s) first.

Two reasons why...

1) You are more likely to need to use a pistol in self-defense than a carbine.

2) The pistol is more difficult to master, so, once you get that down, you will
be much better with the carbine.

Something to consider.
1/5/2011 5:59:06 AM EDT
[#8]
Agree.........I do compete in IDPA and practice a pretty good amount with the pistol but I want a professional take on some things and a second eye for real world vs IDPA world.  IDPA is excellent IMHO at combining some aspects of real world vs competition (usage of cover/concealment and different scenarions/movement.

Carbine class will be more for fun/learning than real world application unless the SHTF.  My days of deployment are gone now.........at least I think ;).............Uncle Sam could always knock on my door I guess....I am not that old yet  ha!