Posted: 12/5/2009 7:55:44 AM EDT
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Hi Folks, I heard the TTC pistol is a no go for cocked and locked carry due to the aftermarket safety. Anyone care to elaborate. It also has a half cock that is supposedly used for this purpose. Anyone know more than I do about this half cock, it's usefulness and the aftermarket safety in context of cocked and locked carry, condition 1?
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| The half cock was never designed to be a safety, it is there to catch the hammer if it slips while cocking it, or catch it if it drops accidentally without the trigger being pulled. The aftermarket safety only blocks the hammer, not the sear and hammer like the Browning designed pistols. The only safe way to carry a TT style pistol is with the chamber empty until it is needed, then rack the slide, just the way the Russians carried them. I don't think I would trust the pistol in condition 1 |
I guess than i'd be goin Israeli if I wanted to CCW with it.
any other TT owners out there care to chime in. I bought the pistol for the cheap ammo for practice but I am starting to see my folly here because if the pistol is not safe enough to carry C and L than it is not safe enough to practice like that either lest I shoot my foot off. |
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I guess than i'd be goin Israeli if I wanted to CCW with it.
any other TT owners out there care to chime in. I bought the pistol for the cheap ammo for practice but I am starting to see my folly here because if the pistol is not safe enough to carry C and L than it is not safe enough to practice like that either lest I shoot my foot off. 
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The half cock was never designed to be a safety, it is there to catch the hammer if it slips while cocking it, or catch it if it drops accidentally without the trigger being pulled. The aftermarket safety only blocks the hammer, not the sear and hammer like the Browning designed pistols. The only safe way to carry a TT style pistol is with the chamber empty until it is needed, then rack the slide, just the way the Russians carried them. I don't think I would trust the pistol in condition 1 Have you seen the half cock notch on a TT33? Aftermarket safetys on the TT-33 were only added for importation. They should not be trusted. Unlike the 1911, and similar handguns, the TT33 half cock safety is very secure. That hammer is going no where unless you choose to further lower it or cock it. Around WWII and after, half cock was a popular way to carry handguns in the US. People trained and "in the know" would do so. No reason for the Russian to not feel the same. However even so, I would not advocate carrying the firearm on half cock. |
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And why would you not advocate half cock carry? I don't advocate half cocked, or the TT33 for carry at all. There are cheap pistol in common calibers like 9mm where you can get quality hollow points for self defense. The TT33 is a cheap crude handgun made for war. The 7.62x25 has great potential to overpentrate, and will not necessary stop better then a quality hollowpoint. If for some reason I had no option but the TT33, I could carry it with a round in chamber and on half cocked. I would remove that damned import safety to prevent it causing any problems. And I would replace it with another pistol as soon as possible. |
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My first handgun was a norinco t-54 identical to your romanian and I carried it for years on half cock before I could afford a better handgun. Half cock is very safe way to carry this pistol as it takes a bit of force to recock not something you would do by accident. The current owner has been carrying it the same way for the past 7 years. Hope this helps
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