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6/28/2011 9:35:46 AM EDT
How does everybody load singles in standing slow fire and prone slow fire in you're AR styl rifles.I try to drop the round into the chamber but I do not like to drop the buutstock from my shoulder once I am in position. Also my fingers are too big to fit in the ejection port to put the rounds into the mag. I also don'e want to drop the mag evertime I load a round. I have had rounds no go into the chamber when I release the bolt and I have also experienced the bolt pinchinmg on the nose of the round when it flies home, therfor deforming the point of the round. What say y'all
6/28/2011 10:35:11 AM EDT
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How does everybody load singles in standing slow fire and prone slow fire in you're AR styl rifles.I try to drop the round into the chamber but I do not like to drop the buutstock from my shoulder once I am in position. Also my fingers are too big to fit in the ejection port to put the rounds into the mag. I also don'e want to drop the mag evertime I load a round. I have had rounds no go into the chamber when I release the bolt and I have also experienced the bolt pinchinmg on the nose of the round when it flies home, therfor deforming the point of the round. What say y'all


Sir, when I'm shooting in the offhand position since the rules do not allow you to place any part of the rifle on your stool or the ground with a live cartridge I normally cradle the rifle with my left arm.  I pick up a cartridge from the cartridge holder in the right side pocket of my shooting coat and insert it through the ejection port into the chamber of the rifle.  I tilt the muzzle of the rifle downward and visually verify the round has entered the chamber.  Holding the rifle horizontally and pointing down range I use the bolt release to close the bolt.  Shoulder the rifle, release the safety, aim, fire the rifle and follow through.

When in the prone position I do much the same except tilting the muzzle downward is not practicle so I use my ECI as a follower to push the cartridge into the chamber.  I keep my left hand in position and after the shot allow the but of the rifle to fall freely onto the mat.  After loading I reshoulder the rifle, verify my stock weld, aim and break the shot.

I suggest you modify one of your magazines by intalling a single loading device.  HTH, 7zero1.

6/28/2011 12:09:55 PM EDT
[#2]
Same as above, except I keep the rifle in the shoulder for Prone, except pair firing, and I push the round in with a finger, Also I  do not use a special follower just a standard mag. Since I am pushing the round in by hand I fail to see the point. That $$ will go towards replacing my stinky glove.
6/28/2011 6:47:24 PM EDT
[#3]
Yep
6/29/2011 6:46:56 AM EDT
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Same as above, except I keep the rifle in the shoulder for Prone, except pair firing, and I push the round in with a finger, Also I  do not use a special follower just a standard mag. Since I am pushing the round in by hand I fail to see the point. That $$ will go towards replacing my stinky glove.


Sir, no particular point intended.  I simply mentioned that because the OP said his fingers were to big to fit into the ejection port.  At least if he puts the cartridge on the single round follower the cartridge will be centered with the chamber when he closes the bolt.  I spent a few dollars at the Sinclair store on commercial row a few years ago and installed the single round follower in one of my magazines.  I use that magazine for all slow fire and have three different ones for rapid fire.  My gloves seem to become unstitched long before they need replacement because they stink.  Haha, 7zero1 out.

6/29/2011 12:26:05 PM EDT
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Same as above, except I keep the rifle in the shoulder for Prone, except pair firing, and I push the round in with a finger, Also I  do not use a special follower just a standard mag. Since I am pushing the round in by hand I fail to see the point. That $$ will go towards replacing my stinky glove.


Sir, no particular point intended.  I simply mentioned that because the OP said his fingers were to big to fit into the ejection port.  At least if he puts the cartridge on the single round follower the cartridge will be centered with the chamber when he closes the bolt.  I spent a few dollars at the Sinclair store on commercial row a few years ago and installed the single round follower in one of my magazines.  I use that magazine for all slow fire and have three different ones for rapid fire.  My gloves seem to become unstitched long before they need replacement because they stink.  Haha, 7zero1 out.



You got me on that one!!  

I sweat ALOT, and I  sew my gloves up.  All those years with the '66 Keeping it going and semi presentable in high school taught me something useful. Upholstery needles and thread will keep a glove together, I recommend it. But I don't recommend driving that ginormous needle into your hand. I usually have to wash my glove every 2-3 months depending on how much I use it. And also cat urine enzyme eliminator will take the smell out of any coat or glove. Good stuff right there.

And I meant I didn't see the point for me. So the one I had I gave to a friend that needed one.  Not against them.

7/7/2011 7:57:23 PM EDT
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Well, I don't know that you want to copy me, but here is my strategy.  I take a round and just lay it in the receiver.  I tilt the gun slightly to the left and reach over with my right hand to press the bolt release.  As long as the round is laying straight, it will run home with no issues.  I have found that if I try to use my finger to push it into the receiver (not the chamber, just the receiver) that it can sometimes sit a little cockeyed and then it can jam up on the locking lugs when you ram home the bolt.  Tilting the gun to the left ensures that the round is in line with the chamber and prevents that.  I think that a lot of guys manually feed the round into the chamber to avoid this, but I have not seen the need if a little precaution is taken in how the round is layed in.  An aid that I am planning on buying is the bobsled magazine.  It is specially made and shaped to lay a round on and assist it with feeding into the chamber.  

Now, take all that for what it is worth.  I have shot high power for two years and not scored any leg points yet.  I am pretty new and still learning myself.  This is just my observations on how the gun actaully functions and what is really required.  We all have our own rituals with shooting though.
7/14/2011 4:38:38 AM EDT
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M1AJAS,

Midway carries this single round loading device. It is used by many high Power competitors.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=967912

Tim
7/18/2011 1:59:00 PM EDT
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M1AJAS,

Midway carries this single round loading device. It is used by many high Power competitors.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=967912

Tim


Every plastic follower in every mag I own, including some cheap ones, has successfully held the bolt open after a single round or last round was fired.

I bought one of the above and it didn't work for shit. The bolt would just ride over the Single Round Loader's bolt stop and gouge furrows in the aluminum cartridge channel. I tried it in four different 20-round mags: my ultra-reliable GI mag, my ultra-reliable Brownell's mag, and two cheap Stoner mags. So I took it out. I didn't want to spend time unjamming things when the time could be better spent on target.

In offhand position, I point the muzzle down about 45 degrees, slip a round into the ejection port, and it happily wiggles itself into the chamber by gravity alone. I bring the rifle nearly to my shoulder, reach around and push the bolt release with trigger hand, then position the butt to my shoulder.

In prone postition, I use my empty chamber flag, as stated by others above, to push the round into the chamber. I used to just push a round in, assume it was straight, and hit the bolt release. But one time it got caught up and shoved a 69 grain SMK almost all the way into the brass. Thankfully, I caught that one, and didn't try to recover/rechamber/fire.

A fellow shooter has had good luck with the older plastic version of the single round follower. I cannot recommend the aluminum one, however, but that's just my experience.



7/18/2011 2:56:50 PM EDT
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I use the Bob Sled. It has a nice little ramp so the round goes in without the need to push it in the chamber with something (other then the bolt)

http://www.dctechs.com/obspage.htm