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7/18/2010 12:47:48 PM EDT
I have been shooting, plinking, bullseye for some time now.  I feel the need to learn to double tap.
Having a tuff time with it.  the second shot from my 45 is about 2 -3 inches low left.  Seems I am jerking the trigger a bit too much.
It does get better if I slow it down.
Any guidance out there on helping me with this?  Foolishly I ask, how long does it take to learn this skill?  
(easier to do with a 9 mm?)
thanks
bill boy
7/18/2010 1:21:31 PM EDT
[#1]
With the second shot low, it sounds like you're trying to keep the pistol from recoiling.  Start with a good two handed grip, and concentrate on making two shots with the second happening as soon as you regain the sight picture.


This isn't a hammer, or doubletap, but it will get you closer.  Practice that until the time between your first shot and regaining the sight picture and making the second lessens.



After that, the progression to a  quick followup shot, or doubletap will involve your grip which will have the pistol recoiling back, not upward, or being forced downward, trigger manipulation, and repetition.
























YMMV


 
7/18/2010 2:36:30 PM EDT
[#2]
At what range are you shooting your targets at?

Are you talking about firing a controlled pair or firing a hammer?

Yes, using a 9x19 would be easier, but it is not mandatory.

7/18/2010 4:14:08 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
At what range are you shooting your targets at?

Are you talking about firing a controlled pair or firing a hammer?

Yes, using a 9x19 would be easier, but it is not mandatory.



I am trying to fire a controlled pair at about 7 yards.  
any help is appreciated.  I am all ears.
billy boy
7/18/2010 4:52:50 PM EDT
[#4]
You are probably slapping the trigger. You need to run the gun off of reset and never take your finger off of the trigger between shots.
7/18/2010 6:22:45 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
You are probably slapping the trigger. You need to run the gun off of reset and never take your finger off of the trigger between shots.


Good advice right here.  Also concentrate upon the front sight.

Bring your target in close until you can keep both shots on a 6" circle, then move the target back in 2ft or so increments until you cannot do this, then bring it back 1ft.

Continue this until you get to your goal.

BTW, you can also do this method with one hand (both strong and weak).

Going to a square range w/o an idea of what you want to accomplish that practice session is, IMO, a waste of money, mostly.
8/16/2010 2:54:34 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
You are probably slapping the trigger. You need to run the gun off of reset and never take your finger off of the trigger between shots.


I am not sure exactly what you mean by "running off of reset."  trigger is half way back up???
can you explain to this noob?  thanks

billy boy
8/16/2010 9:49:46 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
You are probably slapping the trigger. You need to run the gun off of reset and never take your finger off of the trigger between shots.


I am not sure exactly what you mean by "running off of reset."  trigger is half way back up???
can you explain to this noob?  thanks

billy boy


When you pull the trigger and the shot breaks, keep the trigger to the rear while the slide actuates.  Then slowly release pressure on the trigger until you hear the 'click' of the trigger resetting.  At this point, you can squeeze the trigger back for another shot.  This is keeping the trigger in motion and running the handgun off of reset.

When you allow the trigger to come all the way forward, you are taking additional time between shots that you do not have.  If do this  AND are taking your finger off of the trigger, you not only are taking more time between shots, you also are trying to make up for this by attempting to pull the trigger "faster", or slapping it.  When people do this, they tend to squeeze the entire hand while they are pulling the trigger and pull the second shot low (and right or left depending upon how they hold the handgun and finger position on the trigger).

Start with taking two aimed shots, running the trigger from reset, concentrating upon the front sight, and not fighting your wobble.
8/17/2010 2:55:34 AM EDT
[#8]
most interesting.  I will try this, thanks for the help!         billy boy

still learning!
8/17/2010 8:27:04 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
I have been shooting, plinking, bullseye for some time now.  I feel the need to learn to double tap.


Why? 2 shots for 1 sight picture may happen in the real world, but generally it's preferable to train yourself to govern your shooting by the sights rather than trying to guide them by the force. Speaking as a guy who has tried to make the gun go fast without paying attention to the sights, it's a road filled with failure and woe.


Having a tuff time with it.  the second shot from my 45 is about 2 -3 inches low left.  Seems I am jerking the trigger a bit too much.


No, you are anticipating recoil. You can slap the unholy bejeezus out of the trigger on most firearms and not dramatically effect the point of impact of the round. Generally when people jerk a shot low and left it's because they are combining poor trigger control with anticipation...because they are not properly controlling the trigger they know when the gun's about to go off and so they anticipate.


Any guidance out there on helping me with this?


Learn to watch your sights. Learn to reset the trigger as the gun is recoiling. Use a good grip that forces the gun to go straight up and back down...trying to watch the sights the whole time so you can see the front post fall back into the rear notch to break your next shot.
8/17/2010 8:39:52 AM EDT
[#10]
JW7:  sounds like good advice!  thanks for the help, will try to do this tomorrow.  ie, start learning tomorrow!     thanks again       billy boy
8/21/2010 2:44:19 AM EDT
[#11]
JW7:    I tried the trigger reset on both of my 22's.  super!!  thanks for the help.  I gotta long way to go!    Billy boy
10/6/2010 1:14:56 PM EDT
[#12]
Start slow. Slow enough that you can get good hits with both rounds. Once you can do that consistently, slowly build up your speed.



Once you start throwing shots, you've found your failure point. Back off a little until you can get consistent hits again then push forward a little more.